Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Hi Gabe, Some other things that come to mind are: 1. Probably want to consider if they would have room to have a pool separate from the main for therapy. Those that want to swim laps get pretty upset if the pool has to be closed for classes. The configuration that seems to work that I have seen is having a lap pool, a therapy pool, a children's pool and a large whirlpool. Having the whirlpool is important for therapy purposes as well 2. Depth: A true therapy pool has some variation in depth to accommodate different height folks. You can't use the important principle of buoyancy if you are always up to your neck or it only comes to your waist. 3. Places to sit: An option is to have a ledge going around the inside of part or all of the pool that clients can sit on (and still have their heads out of the water. Makes the pool very adaptable for different excercises. 4. Acoustics: Often forgotten but important when leading groups for regular and therapy classes 5. Proximity to planned therapy rooms: Are they considering space for a therapy clinic inside the facility? Make sure if they are that it is close to the pool and locker areas so staff which must be there to supervise are relatively close to the treatment area as well. 6. Steps into the pool are important as well as a lift or ramp 7. Areas to sit outside the pool. There may be people waiting for a class or parents there observing children. 8. Areas to hang clothing, cubbies for clients/guests to put items and areas to store wheelchairs. If the pool is used for therapy, clients may have items they need to bring into the pool area that cannot be stored in the locker room including the wheelchair. Make sure to have areas planned for storage or else there will be safety issues. 9. Another good thing for a therapy pool is a handrail in the pool so there can be walking or exercise using the handrail while still at a depth for buoyancy. Hope that helps! M.Howell, P.T., M.P.T. IPTA Payment Specialist Meridian, Idaho thowell@... This email and any files transmitted with it may contain PRIVILEGED or CONFIDENTIAL information and may be read or used only by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of the email or any of its attachments, please be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately purge it and all attachments and notify the sender by reply email. From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:20 PM To: PTManager Subject: Therapy pool I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability of this type of facility? As always, thanks for your feedback. Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Hi Gabe, Some other things that come to mind are: 1. Probably want to consider if they would have room to have a pool separate from the main for therapy. Those that want to swim laps get pretty upset if the pool has to be closed for classes. The configuration that seems to work that I have seen is having a lap pool, a therapy pool, a children's pool and a large whirlpool. Having the whirlpool is important for therapy purposes as well 2. Depth: A true therapy pool has some variation in depth to accommodate different height folks. You can't use the important principle of buoyancy if you are always up to your neck or it only comes to your waist. 3. Places to sit: An option is to have a ledge going around the inside of part or all of the pool that clients can sit on (and still have their heads out of the water. Makes the pool very adaptable for different excercises. 4. Acoustics: Often forgotten but important when leading groups for regular and therapy classes 5. Proximity to planned therapy rooms: Are they considering space for a therapy clinic inside the facility? Make sure if they are that it is close to the pool and locker areas so staff which must be there to supervise are relatively close to the treatment area as well. 6. Steps into the pool are important as well as a lift or ramp 7. Areas to sit outside the pool. There may be people waiting for a class or parents there observing children. 8. Areas to hang clothing, cubbies for clients/guests to put items and areas to store wheelchairs. If the pool is used for therapy, clients may have items they need to bring into the pool area that cannot be stored in the locker room including the wheelchair. Make sure to have areas planned for storage or else there will be safety issues. 9. Another good thing for a therapy pool is a handrail in the pool so there can be walking or exercise using the handrail while still at a depth for buoyancy. Hope that helps! M.Howell, P.T., M.P.T. IPTA Payment Specialist Meridian, Idaho thowell@... This email and any files transmitted with it may contain PRIVILEGED or CONFIDENTIAL information and may be read or used only by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of the email or any of its attachments, please be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately purge it and all attachments and notify the sender by reply email. From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:20 PM To: PTManager Subject: Therapy pool I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability of this type of facility? As always, thanks for your feedback. Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 I would encourage you to work with your local/regional Independent Living Center which will have both local and national resources to assist with this project. Connie Bauer Connie Bauer Occupational Therapy, LLC Frenchtown, Montana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Gabe - I am sure that your group is probably aware of this, but it should be at the top of the list: Under Title III and as part of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design, regulations of the Accessible Design for Recreational Facilities will require all public pools and spas to be outfitted with an ADA compliant swimming pool lift or sloped entry. The rule extends to places of " public accommodations " including services establishments which has been defined to include professional offices of health care providers. This regulation which has a compliance effective date of March 12, 2012. J. Beckley, MS, MBA, CHC | President Beckley & Associates LLC P | F <http://nancybeckley.com/> nancybeckley.com | <http://rehabcomplianceblog.com/> rehabcomplianceblog.com <http://nancybeckley.com/> Description: Description: Description: Logo for email signature3 <http://www.linkedin.com/in/nancybeckley> Description: Description: ZA102637857 Linked In Icon <http://www.twitter.com/nancybeckley> Description: Description: ZA102637858 Twitter Icon From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM To: PTManager Subject: Therapy pool I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability of this type of facility? As always, thanks for your feedback. Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Gabe - I am sure that your group is probably aware of this, but it should be at the top of the list: Under Title III and as part of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design, regulations of the Accessible Design for Recreational Facilities will require all public pools and spas to be outfitted with an ADA compliant swimming pool lift or sloped entry. The rule extends to places of " public accommodations " including services establishments which has been defined to include professional offices of health care providers. This regulation which has a compliance effective date of March 12, 2012. J. Beckley, MS, MBA, CHC | President Beckley & Associates LLC P | F <http://nancybeckley.com/> nancybeckley.com | <http://rehabcomplianceblog.com/> rehabcomplianceblog.com <http://nancybeckley.com/> Description: Description: Description: Logo for email signature3 <http://www.linkedin.com/in/nancybeckley> Description: Description: ZA102637857 Linked In Icon <http://www.twitter.com/nancybeckley> Description: Description: ZA102637858 Twitter Icon From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM To: PTManager Subject: Therapy pool I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability of this type of facility? As always, thanks for your feedback. Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 We made seating in our therapy pool out of stainless piping. Same stuff used for handrails. We have had ours in place for nearly 14 years with no rusting or corrosion problems even with it being in our salt water pool. I think there are other materials available now but when we built our pool that was all that was available to our knowledge This works well for the older and more buoyant clients. They are able to hold themselves down or sit in place without floating off the seat. It also allows a more full range of motion for seated knee movement. Concrete benches don't work well for this. We have had several clinics copy our pool seating design and are very happy with the result. It works well. Dehumidification..Look for heat recovery systems. Walter Stark at Nautica Air Systems designs these types of systems. http://www.nauticaairsystems.com/ Go salt water with dry acid to control the PH. Much safer for use and storage (chlorine and muriatic acid are very volital/explosive). May be worth investing in UV right away or at least putting the thought in to design for later installation. Very expensive product and it may become a requirement in the future due to the threat of Crypto (Cryptosporidium) outbreaks. Also, saltwater and UV pools have the add value as a green solution. Make sure you use a commercial salt water product. We use ChlorKing. http://www.chlorking.com Good luck. You have a challenging collaboration to work through. Mark Mark Simmerman C.E.O. / Administrator Cleburne Physical Therapy & Fitness Center 1014 N. Nolan River Road Cleburne, Texas 76033 - Office - Direct Fax From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of M. Howell PT, MPT Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 10:43 AM To: PTManager Subject: RE: Therapy pool Hi Gabe, Some other things that come to mind are: 1. Probably want to consider if they would have room to have a pool separate from the main for therapy. Those that want to swim laps get pretty upset if the pool has to be closed for classes. The configuration that seems to work that I have seen is having a lap pool, a therapy pool, a children's pool and a large whirlpool. Having the whirlpool is important for therapy purposes as well 2. Depth: A true therapy pool has some variation in depth to accommodate different height folks. You can't use the important principle of buoyancy if you are always up to your neck or it only comes to your waist. 3. Places to sit: An option is to have a ledge going around the inside of part or all of the pool that clients can sit on (and still have their heads out of the water. Makes the pool very adaptable for different excercises. 4. Acoustics: Often forgotten but important when leading groups for regular and therapy classes 5. Proximity to planned therapy rooms: Are they considering space for a therapy clinic inside the facility? Make sure if they are that it is close to the pool and locker areas so staff which must be there to supervise are relatively close to the treatment area as well. 6. Steps into the pool are important as well as a lift or ramp 7. Areas to sit outside the pool. There may be people waiting for a class or parents there observing children. 8. Areas to hang clothing, cubbies for clients/guests to put items and areas to store wheelchairs. If the pool is used for therapy, clients may have items they need to bring into the pool area that cannot be stored in the locker room including the wheelchair. Make sure to have areas planned for storage or else there will be safety issues. 9. Another good thing for a therapy pool is a handrail in the pool so there can be walking or exercise using the handrail while still at a depth for buoyancy. Hope that helps! M.Howell, P.T., M.P.T. 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From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:20 PM To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Therapy pool I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability of this type of facility? As always, thanks for your feedback. Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 We made seating in our therapy pool out of stainless piping. Same stuff used for handrails. We have had ours in place for nearly 14 years with no rusting or corrosion problems even with it being in our salt water pool. I think there are other materials available now but when we built our pool that was all that was available to our knowledge This works well for the older and more buoyant clients. They are able to hold themselves down or sit in place without floating off the seat. It also allows a more full range of motion for seated knee movement. Concrete benches don't work well for this. We have had several clinics copy our pool seating design and are very happy with the result. It works well. Dehumidification..Look for heat recovery systems. Walter Stark at Nautica Air Systems designs these types of systems. http://www.nauticaairsystems.com/ Go salt water with dry acid to control the PH. Much safer for use and storage (chlorine and muriatic acid are very volital/explosive). May be worth investing in UV right away or at least putting the thought in to design for later installation. Very expensive product and it may become a requirement in the future due to the threat of Crypto (Cryptosporidium) outbreaks. Also, saltwater and UV pools have the add value as a green solution. Make sure you use a commercial salt water product. We use ChlorKing. http://www.chlorking.com Good luck. You have a challenging collaboration to work through. Mark Mark Simmerman C.E.O. / Administrator Cleburne Physical Therapy & Fitness Center 1014 N. Nolan River Road Cleburne, Texas 76033 - Office - Direct Fax From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of M. Howell PT, MPT Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 10:43 AM To: PTManager Subject: RE: Therapy pool Hi Gabe, Some other things that come to mind are: 1. Probably want to consider if they would have room to have a pool separate from the main for therapy. Those that want to swim laps get pretty upset if the pool has to be closed for classes. The configuration that seems to work that I have seen is having a lap pool, a therapy pool, a children's pool and a large whirlpool. Having the whirlpool is important for therapy purposes as well 2. Depth: A true therapy pool has some variation in depth to accommodate different height folks. You can't use the important principle of buoyancy if you are always up to your neck or it only comes to your waist. 3. Places to sit: An option is to have a ledge going around the inside of part or all of the pool that clients can sit on (and still have their heads out of the water. Makes the pool very adaptable for different excercises. 4. Acoustics: Often forgotten but important when leading groups for regular and therapy classes 5. Proximity to planned therapy rooms: Are they considering space for a therapy clinic inside the facility? Make sure if they are that it is close to the pool and locker areas so staff which must be there to supervise are relatively close to the treatment area as well. 6. Steps into the pool are important as well as a lift or ramp 7. Areas to sit outside the pool. There may be people waiting for a class or parents there observing children. 8. Areas to hang clothing, cubbies for clients/guests to put items and areas to store wheelchairs. If the pool is used for therapy, clients may have items they need to bring into the pool area that cannot be stored in the locker room including the wheelchair. Make sure to have areas planned for storage or else there will be safety issues. 9. Another good thing for a therapy pool is a handrail in the pool so there can be walking or exercise using the handrail while still at a depth for buoyancy. Hope that helps! M.Howell, P.T., M.P.T. IPTA Payment Specialist Meridian, Idaho <mailto:thowell@... <mailto:thowell%40fiberpipe.net> > thowell@... <mailto:thowell%40fiberpipe.net> This email and any files transmitted with it may contain PRIVILEGED or CONFIDENTIAL information and may be read or used only by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of the email or any of its attachments, please be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately purge it and all attachments and notify the sender by reply email. From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:20 PM To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Therapy pool I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability of this type of facility? As always, thanks for your feedback. Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 We made seating in our therapy pool out of stainless piping. Same stuff used for handrails. We have had ours in place for nearly 14 years with no rusting or corrosion problems even with it being in our salt water pool. I think there are other materials available now but when we built our pool that was all that was available to our knowledge This works well for the older and more buoyant clients. They are able to hold themselves down or sit in place without floating off the seat. It also allows a more full range of motion for seated knee movement. Concrete benches don't work well for this. We have had several clinics copy our pool seating design and are very happy with the result. It works well. Dehumidification..Look for heat recovery systems. Walter Stark at Nautica Air Systems designs these types of systems. http://www.nauticaairsystems.com/ Go salt water with dry acid to control the PH. Much safer for use and storage (chlorine and muriatic acid are very volital/explosive). May be worth investing in UV right away or at least putting the thought in to design for later installation. Very expensive product and it may become a requirement in the future due to the threat of Crypto (Cryptosporidium) outbreaks. Also, saltwater and UV pools have the add value as a green solution. Make sure you use a commercial salt water product. We use ChlorKing. http://www.chlorking.com Good luck. You have a challenging collaboration to work through. Mark Mark Simmerman C.E.O. / Administrator Cleburne Physical Therapy & Fitness Center 1014 N. Nolan River Road Cleburne, Texas 76033 - Office - Direct Fax From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of M. Howell PT, MPT Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 10:43 AM To: PTManager Subject: RE: Therapy pool Hi Gabe, Some other things that come to mind are: 1. Probably want to consider if they would have room to have a pool separate from the main for therapy. Those that want to swim laps get pretty upset if the pool has to be closed for classes. The configuration that seems to work that I have seen is having a lap pool, a therapy pool, a children's pool and a large whirlpool. Having the whirlpool is important for therapy purposes as well 2. Depth: A true therapy pool has some variation in depth to accommodate different height folks. You can't use the important principle of buoyancy if you are always up to your neck or it only comes to your waist. 3. Places to sit: An option is to have a ledge going around the inside of part or all of the pool that clients can sit on (and still have their heads out of the water. Makes the pool very adaptable for different excercises. 4. Acoustics: Often forgotten but important when leading groups for regular and therapy classes 5. Proximity to planned therapy rooms: Are they considering space for a therapy clinic inside the facility? Make sure if they are that it is close to the pool and locker areas so staff which must be there to supervise are relatively close to the treatment area as well. 6. Steps into the pool are important as well as a lift or ramp 7. Areas to sit outside the pool. There may be people waiting for a class or parents there observing children. 8. Areas to hang clothing, cubbies for clients/guests to put items and areas to store wheelchairs. If the pool is used for therapy, clients may have items they need to bring into the pool area that cannot be stored in the locker room including the wheelchair. Make sure to have areas planned for storage or else there will be safety issues. 9. Another good thing for a therapy pool is a handrail in the pool so there can be walking or exercise using the handrail while still at a depth for buoyancy. Hope that helps! M.Howell, P.T., M.P.T. IPTA Payment Specialist Meridian, Idaho <mailto:thowell@... <mailto:thowell%40fiberpipe.net> > thowell@... <mailto:thowell%40fiberpipe.net> This email and any files transmitted with it may contain PRIVILEGED or CONFIDENTIAL information and may be read or used only by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of the email or any of its attachments, please be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately purge it and all attachments and notify the sender by reply email. From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:20 PM To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Therapy pool I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability of this type of facility? As always, thanks for your feedback. Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Another nice feature we missed out on in our pool, spill over gutters. This prevents waving action in the pool. Normal home type pools only have return baskets. Pool water movement/waves in a home/hotel pool rebound off the walls and create ongoing waves. With spill over gutters the waves spill over the side and do not rebound back in to the pool. This is a much calmer pool in all applications but of course it is more expensive option. Mark Mark Simmerman Cleburne Physical Therapy & Fitness Center 1014 N. Nolan River Road Cleburne, Texas 76033 - Office - Direct Fax From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Beckley Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 12:20 PM To: PTManager Subject: RE: Therapy pool Gabe - I am sure that your group is probably aware of this, but it should be at the top of the list: Under Title III and as part of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design, regulations of the Accessible Design for Recreational Facilities will require all public pools and spas to be outfitted with an ADA compliant swimming pool lift or sloped entry. The rule extends to places of " public accommodations " including services establishments which has been defined to include professional offices of health care providers. This regulation which has a compliance effective date of March 12, 2012. J. Beckley, MS, MBA, CHC | President Beckley & Associates LLC P | F <http://nancybeckley.com/> nancybeckley.com | <http://rehabcomplianceblog.com/> rehabcomplianceblog.com <http://nancybeckley.com/> Description: Description: Description: Logo for email signature3 <http://www.linkedin.com/in/nancybeckley> Description: Description: ZA102637857 Linked In Icon <http://www.twitter.com/nancybeckley> Description: Description: ZA102637858 Twitter Icon From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Therapy pool I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability of this type of facility? As always, thanks for your feedback. Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Another nice feature we missed out on in our pool, spill over gutters. This prevents waving action in the pool. Normal home type pools only have return baskets. Pool water movement/waves in a home/hotel pool rebound off the walls and create ongoing waves. With spill over gutters the waves spill over the side and do not rebound back in to the pool. This is a much calmer pool in all applications but of course it is more expensive option. Mark Mark Simmerman Cleburne Physical Therapy & Fitness Center 1014 N. Nolan River Road Cleburne, Texas 76033 - Office - Direct Fax From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Beckley Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 12:20 PM To: PTManager Subject: RE: Therapy pool Gabe - I am sure that your group is probably aware of this, but it should be at the top of the list: Under Title III and as part of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design, regulations of the Accessible Design for Recreational Facilities will require all public pools and spas to be outfitted with an ADA compliant swimming pool lift or sloped entry. The rule extends to places of " public accommodations " including services establishments which has been defined to include professional offices of health care providers. This regulation which has a compliance effective date of March 12, 2012. J. Beckley, MS, MBA, CHC | President Beckley & Associates LLC P | F <http://nancybeckley.com/> nancybeckley.com | <http://rehabcomplianceblog.com/> rehabcomplianceblog.com <http://nancybeckley.com/> Description: Description: Description: Logo for email signature3 <http://www.linkedin.com/in/nancybeckley> Description: Description: ZA102637857 Linked In Icon <http://www.twitter.com/nancybeckley> Description: Description: ZA102637858 Twitter Icon From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Therapy pool I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability of this type of facility? As always, thanks for your feedback. Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Another nice feature we missed out on in our pool, spill over gutters. This prevents waving action in the pool. Normal home type pools only have return baskets. Pool water movement/waves in a home/hotel pool rebound off the walls and create ongoing waves. With spill over gutters the waves spill over the side and do not rebound back in to the pool. This is a much calmer pool in all applications but of course it is more expensive option. Mark Mark Simmerman Cleburne Physical Therapy & Fitness Center 1014 N. Nolan River Road Cleburne, Texas 76033 - Office - Direct Fax From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Beckley Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 12:20 PM To: PTManager Subject: RE: Therapy pool Gabe - I am sure that your group is probably aware of this, but it should be at the top of the list: Under Title III and as part of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design, regulations of the Accessible Design for Recreational Facilities will require all public pools and spas to be outfitted with an ADA compliant swimming pool lift or sloped entry. The rule extends to places of " public accommodations " including services establishments which has been defined to include professional offices of health care providers. This regulation which has a compliance effective date of March 12, 2012. J. Beckley, MS, MBA, CHC | President Beckley & Associates LLC P | F <http://nancybeckley.com/> nancybeckley.com | <http://rehabcomplianceblog.com/> rehabcomplianceblog.com <http://nancybeckley.com/> Description: Description: Description: Logo for email signature3 <http://www.linkedin.com/in/nancybeckley> Description: Description: ZA102637857 Linked In Icon <http://www.twitter.com/nancybeckley> Description: Description: ZA102637858 Twitter Icon From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Therapy pool I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability of this type of facility? As always, thanks for your feedback. Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 If you plan to rent a portion of the pool for treatment, make sure you can close the pool area to the public for therapy or have a separate area to treat within. Diane PT DPT MHA Rehabilitation Manager Langlade Health & Rehabilitation 112 E. 5th Ave. Antigo, WI 54409 PH: Fax: Nationally Ranked - Modern Healthcare's Top 100 " Best Places to Work in Healthcare " (Three Years in a Row - 2009, 2010 & 2011) [cid:image001.png@...] From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM To: PTManager Subject: Therapy pool I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability of this type of facility? As always, thanks for your feedback. Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 If you plan to rent a portion of the pool for treatment, make sure you can close the pool area to the public for therapy or have a separate area to treat within. Diane PT DPT MHA Rehabilitation Manager Langlade Health & Rehabilitation 112 E. 5th Ave. Antigo, WI 54409 PH: Fax: Nationally Ranked - Modern Healthcare's Top 100 " Best Places to Work in Healthcare " (Three Years in a Row - 2009, 2010 & 2011) [cid:image001.png@...] From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM To: PTManager Subject: Therapy pool I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability of this type of facility? As always, thanks for your feedback. Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 - Can you clarify for the group whether this pertains to existing pools currently in use or just new or altered construction of pools?  Thanks,  Mike Bigelow, PT To: PTManager Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 11:19 AM Subject: RE: Therapy pool  Gabe - I am sure that your group is probably aware of this, but it should be at the top of the list: Under Title III and as part of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design, regulations of the Accessible Design for Recreational Facilities will require all public pools and spas to be outfitted with an ADA compliant swimming pool lift or sloped entry. The rule extends to places of " public accommodations " including services establishments which has been defined to include professional offices of health care providers. This regulation which has a compliance effective date of March 12, 2012. J. Beckley, MS, MBA, CHC | President Beckley & Associates LLC P | F <http://nancybeckley.com/> nancybeckley.com | <http://rehabcomplianceblog.com/> rehabcomplianceblog.com <http://nancybeckley.com/> Description: Description: Description: Logo for email signature3 <http://www.linkedin.com/in/nancybeckley> Description: Description: ZA102637857 Linked In Icon <http://www.twitter.com/nancybeckley> Description: Description: ZA102637858 Twitter Icon From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM To: PTManager Subject: Therapy pool I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability of this type of facility? As always, thanks for your feedback. Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 - Can you clarify for the group whether this pertains to existing pools currently in use or just new or altered construction of pools?  Thanks,  Mike Bigelow, PT To: PTManager Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 11:19 AM Subject: RE: Therapy pool  Gabe - I am sure that your group is probably aware of this, but it should be at the top of the list: Under Title III and as part of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design, regulations of the Accessible Design for Recreational Facilities will require all public pools and spas to be outfitted with an ADA compliant swimming pool lift or sloped entry. The rule extends to places of " public accommodations " including services establishments which has been defined to include professional offices of health care providers. This regulation which has a compliance effective date of March 12, 2012. J. Beckley, MS, MBA, CHC | President Beckley & Associates LLC P | F <http://nancybeckley.com/> nancybeckley.com | <http://rehabcomplianceblog.com/> rehabcomplianceblog.com <http://nancybeckley.com/> Description: Description: Description: Logo for email signature3 <http://www.linkedin.com/in/nancybeckley> Description: Description: ZA102637857 Linked In Icon <http://www.twitter.com/nancybeckley> Description: Description: ZA102637858 Twitter Icon From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM To: PTManager Subject: Therapy pool I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability of this type of facility? As always, thanks for your feedback. Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 The Department of Justice 2010 ADA Standards are “accessible†(no pun intended) in the link below. And to clarify, they are applicable to pools in current use, as applicable under Title II (cities, municipalities etc) or Title III (public accommodation), as well as to new and altered pools under Title II and Title III. There are some limited safe harbors, so as with a lot of federal regulations it is best to review in the context of the project with someone experienced in ADA regulations/swimming pool design. The fines with the ADA can be stiff, and the enforcer is the Office of Civil Rights. <http://www.ada.gov/regs2010/2010ADAStandards/2010ADAstandards.htm> http://www.ada.gov/regs2010/2010ADAStandards/2010ADAstandards.htm J. Beckley, MS, MBA, CHC | President Beckley & Associates LLC P | F <http://nancybeckley.com/> nancybeckley.com | <http://rehabcomplianceblog.com/> rehabcomplianceblog.com From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Mike Bigelow Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:42 AM To: PTManager Subject: Re: Therapy pool - Can you clarify for the group whether this pertains to existing pools currently in use or just new or altered construction of pools? Thanks, Mike Bigelow, PT From: Beckley <nancy@... <mailto:nancy%40bloomingdaleconsulting.com> > To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 11:19 AM Subject: RE: Therapy pool Gabe - I am sure that your group is probably aware of this, but it should be at the top of the list: Under Title III and as part of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design, regulations of the Accessible Design for Recreational Facilities will require all public pools and spas to be outfitted with an ADA compliant swimming pool lift or sloped entry. The rule extends to places of " public accommodations " including services establishments which has been defined to include professional offices of health care providers. This regulation which has a compliance effective date of March 12, 2012. J. Beckley, MS, MBA, CHC | President Beckley & Associates LLC P | F <http://nancybeckley.com/> nancybeckley.com | <http://rehabcomplianceblog.com/> rehabcomplianceblog.com <http://nancybeckley.com/> Description: Description: Description: Logo for email signature3 <http://www.linkedin.com/in/nancybeckley> Description: Description: ZA102637857 Linked In Icon <http://www.twitter.com/nancybeckley> Description: Description: ZA102637858 Twitter Icon From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Therapy pool I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability of this type of facility? As always, thanks for your feedback. Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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