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Hi Gabe,

Some other things that come to mind are:

1. Probably want to consider if they would have room to have a pool

separate from the main for therapy. Those that want to swim laps get pretty

upset if the pool has to be closed for classes. The configuration that

seems to work that I have seen is having a lap pool, a therapy pool, a

children's pool and a large whirlpool. Having the whirlpool is important

for therapy purposes as well

2. Depth: A true therapy pool has some variation in depth to

accommodate different height folks. You can't use the important principle

of buoyancy if you are always up to your neck or it only comes to your

waist.

3. Places to sit: An option is to have a ledge going around the

inside of part or all of the pool that clients can sit on (and still have

their heads out of the water. Makes the pool very adaptable for different

excercises.

4. Acoustics: Often forgotten but important when leading groups for

regular and therapy classes

5. Proximity to planned therapy rooms: Are they considering space for

a therapy clinic inside the facility? Make sure if they are that it is

close to the pool and locker areas so staff which must be there to supervise

are relatively close to the treatment area as well.

6. Steps into the pool are important as well as a lift or ramp

7. Areas to sit outside the pool. There may be people waiting for a

class or parents there observing children.

8. Areas to hang clothing, cubbies for clients/guests to put items and

areas to store wheelchairs. If the pool is used for therapy, clients may

have items they need to bring into the pool area that cannot be stored in

the locker room including the wheelchair. Make sure to have areas planned

for storage or else there will be safety issues.

9. Another good thing for a therapy pool is a handrail in the pool so

there can be walking or exercise using the handrail while still at a depth

for buoyancy.

Hope that helps!

M.Howell, P.T., M.P.T.

IPTA Payment Specialist

Meridian, Idaho

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Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:20 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Therapy pool

I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the

possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is

being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the

medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make

this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any

other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are

water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing

areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when

planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that

have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a

facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability

of this type of facility?

As always, thanks for your feedback.

Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT

River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine

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Hi Gabe,

Some other things that come to mind are:

1. Probably want to consider if they would have room to have a pool

separate from the main for therapy. Those that want to swim laps get pretty

upset if the pool has to be closed for classes. The configuration that

seems to work that I have seen is having a lap pool, a therapy pool, a

children's pool and a large whirlpool. Having the whirlpool is important

for therapy purposes as well

2. Depth: A true therapy pool has some variation in depth to

accommodate different height folks. You can't use the important principle

of buoyancy if you are always up to your neck or it only comes to your

waist.

3. Places to sit: An option is to have a ledge going around the

inside of part or all of the pool that clients can sit on (and still have

their heads out of the water. Makes the pool very adaptable for different

excercises.

4. Acoustics: Often forgotten but important when leading groups for

regular and therapy classes

5. Proximity to planned therapy rooms: Are they considering space for

a therapy clinic inside the facility? Make sure if they are that it is

close to the pool and locker areas so staff which must be there to supervise

are relatively close to the treatment area as well.

6. Steps into the pool are important as well as a lift or ramp

7. Areas to sit outside the pool. There may be people waiting for a

class or parents there observing children.

8. Areas to hang clothing, cubbies for clients/guests to put items and

areas to store wheelchairs. If the pool is used for therapy, clients may

have items they need to bring into the pool area that cannot be stored in

the locker room including the wheelchair. Make sure to have areas planned

for storage or else there will be safety issues.

9. Another good thing for a therapy pool is a handrail in the pool so

there can be walking or exercise using the handrail while still at a depth

for buoyancy.

Hope that helps!

M.Howell, P.T., M.P.T.

IPTA Payment Specialist

Meridian, Idaho

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Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:20 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Therapy pool

I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the

possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is

being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the

medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make

this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any

other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are

water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing

areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when

planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that

have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a

facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability

of this type of facility?

As always, thanks for your feedback.

Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT

River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine

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I would encourage you to work with your local/regional Independent Living Center

which will have both local and national resources to assist with this project.

Connie Bauer

Connie Bauer Occupational Therapy, LLC

Frenchtown, Montana

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Gabe - I am sure that your group is probably aware of this, but it should be

at the top of the list:

Under Title III and as part of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design,

regulations of the Accessible Design for Recreational Facilities will

require all public pools and spas to be outfitted with an ADA compliant

swimming pool lift or sloped entry. The rule extends to places of " public

accommodations " including services establishments which has been defined to

include professional offices of health care providers. This regulation

which has a compliance effective date of March 12, 2012.

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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Therapy pool

I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the

possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is

being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the

medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make

this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any

other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are

water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing

areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when

planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that

have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a

facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability

of this type of facility?

As always, thanks for your feedback.

Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT

River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine

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Gabe - I am sure that your group is probably aware of this, but it should be

at the top of the list:

Under Title III and as part of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design,

regulations of the Accessible Design for Recreational Facilities will

require all public pools and spas to be outfitted with an ADA compliant

swimming pool lift or sloped entry. The rule extends to places of " public

accommodations " including services establishments which has been defined to

include professional offices of health care providers. This regulation

which has a compliance effective date of March 12, 2012.

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From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Therapy pool

I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the

possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is

being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the

medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make

this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any

other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are

water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing

areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when

planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that

have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a

facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability

of this type of facility?

As always, thanks for your feedback.

Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT

River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine

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We made seating in our therapy pool out of stainless piping. Same stuff used

for handrails. We have had ours in place for nearly 14 years with no rusting

or corrosion problems even with it being in our salt water pool. I think

there are other materials available now but when we built our pool that was

all that was available to our knowledge

This works well for the older and more buoyant clients. They are able to

hold themselves down or sit in place without floating off the seat. It also

allows a more full range of motion for seated knee movement. Concrete

benches don't work well for this. We have had several clinics copy our pool

seating design and are very happy with the result. It works well.

Dehumidification..Look for heat recovery systems. Walter Stark at Nautica

Air Systems designs these types of systems.

http://www.nauticaairsystems.com/

Go salt water with dry acid to control the PH. Much safer for use and

storage (chlorine and muriatic acid are very volital/explosive). May be

worth investing in UV right away or at least putting the thought in to

design for later installation. Very expensive product and it may become a

requirement in the future due to the threat of Crypto (Cryptosporidium)

outbreaks. Also, saltwater and UV pools have the add value as a green

solution. Make sure you use a commercial salt water product. We use

ChlorKing. http://www.chlorking.com

Good luck. You have a challenging collaboration to work through.

Mark

Mark Simmerman

C.E.O. / Administrator

Cleburne Physical Therapy & Fitness Center

1014 N. Nolan River Road

Cleburne, Texas 76033

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From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of M. Howell PT, MPT

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 10:43 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: RE: Therapy pool

Hi Gabe,

Some other things that come to mind are:

1. Probably want to consider if they would have room to have a pool

separate from the main for therapy. Those that want to swim laps get pretty

upset if the pool has to be closed for classes. The configuration that

seems to work that I have seen is having a lap pool, a therapy pool, a

children's pool and a large whirlpool. Having the whirlpool is important

for therapy purposes as well

2. Depth: A true therapy pool has some variation in depth to

accommodate different height folks. You can't use the important principle

of buoyancy if you are always up to your neck or it only comes to your

waist.

3. Places to sit: An option is to have a ledge going around the

inside of part or all of the pool that clients can sit on (and still have

their heads out of the water. Makes the pool very adaptable for different

excercises.

4. Acoustics: Often forgotten but important when leading groups for

regular and therapy classes

5. Proximity to planned therapy rooms: Are they considering space for

a therapy clinic inside the facility? Make sure if they are that it is

close to the pool and locker areas so staff which must be there to supervise

are relatively close to the treatment area as well.

6. Steps into the pool are important as well as a lift or ramp

7. Areas to sit outside the pool. There may be people waiting for a

class or parents there observing children.

8. Areas to hang clothing, cubbies for clients/guests to put items and

areas to store wheelchairs. If the pool is used for therapy, clients may

have items they need to bring into the pool area that cannot be stored in

the locker room including the wheelchair. Make sure to have areas planned

for storage or else there will be safety issues.

9. Another good thing for a therapy pool is a handrail in the pool so

there can be walking or exercise using the handrail while still at a depth

for buoyancy.

Hope that helps!

M.Howell, P.T., M.P.T.

IPTA Payment Specialist

Meridian, Idaho

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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:20 PM

To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Therapy pool

I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the

possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is

being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the

medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make

this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any

other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are

water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing

areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when

planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that

have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a

facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability

of this type of facility?

As always, thanks for your feedback.

Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT

River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine

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We made seating in our therapy pool out of stainless piping. Same stuff used

for handrails. We have had ours in place for nearly 14 years with no rusting

or corrosion problems even with it being in our salt water pool. I think

there are other materials available now but when we built our pool that was

all that was available to our knowledge

This works well for the older and more buoyant clients. They are able to

hold themselves down or sit in place without floating off the seat. It also

allows a more full range of motion for seated knee movement. Concrete

benches don't work well for this. We have had several clinics copy our pool

seating design and are very happy with the result. It works well.

Dehumidification..Look for heat recovery systems. Walter Stark at Nautica

Air Systems designs these types of systems.

http://www.nauticaairsystems.com/

Go salt water with dry acid to control the PH. Much safer for use and

storage (chlorine and muriatic acid are very volital/explosive). May be

worth investing in UV right away or at least putting the thought in to

design for later installation. Very expensive product and it may become a

requirement in the future due to the threat of Crypto (Cryptosporidium)

outbreaks. Also, saltwater and UV pools have the add value as a green

solution. Make sure you use a commercial salt water product. We use

ChlorKing. http://www.chlorking.com

Good luck. You have a challenging collaboration to work through.

Mark

Mark Simmerman

C.E.O. / Administrator

Cleburne Physical Therapy & Fitness Center

1014 N. Nolan River Road

Cleburne, Texas 76033

- Office

- Direct Fax

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of M. Howell PT, MPT

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 10:43 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: RE: Therapy pool

Hi Gabe,

Some other things that come to mind are:

1. Probably want to consider if they would have room to have a pool

separate from the main for therapy. Those that want to swim laps get pretty

upset if the pool has to be closed for classes. The configuration that

seems to work that I have seen is having a lap pool, a therapy pool, a

children's pool and a large whirlpool. Having the whirlpool is important

for therapy purposes as well

2. Depth: A true therapy pool has some variation in depth to

accommodate different height folks. You can't use the important principle

of buoyancy if you are always up to your neck or it only comes to your

waist.

3. Places to sit: An option is to have a ledge going around the

inside of part or all of the pool that clients can sit on (and still have

their heads out of the water. Makes the pool very adaptable for different

excercises.

4. Acoustics: Often forgotten but important when leading groups for

regular and therapy classes

5. Proximity to planned therapy rooms: Are they considering space for

a therapy clinic inside the facility? Make sure if they are that it is

close to the pool and locker areas so staff which must be there to supervise

are relatively close to the treatment area as well.

6. Steps into the pool are important as well as a lift or ramp

7. Areas to sit outside the pool. There may be people waiting for a

class or parents there observing children.

8. Areas to hang clothing, cubbies for clients/guests to put items and

areas to store wheelchairs. If the pool is used for therapy, clients may

have items they need to bring into the pool area that cannot be stored in

the locker room including the wheelchair. Make sure to have areas planned

for storage or else there will be safety issues.

9. Another good thing for a therapy pool is a handrail in the pool so

there can be walking or exercise using the handrail while still at a depth

for buoyancy.

Hope that helps!

M.Howell, P.T., M.P.T.

IPTA Payment Specialist

Meridian, Idaho

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Subject: Therapy pool

I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the

possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is

being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the

medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make

this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any

other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are

water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing

areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when

planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that

have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a

facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability

of this type of facility?

As always, thanks for your feedback.

Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT

River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine

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We made seating in our therapy pool out of stainless piping. Same stuff used

for handrails. We have had ours in place for nearly 14 years with no rusting

or corrosion problems even with it being in our salt water pool. I think

there are other materials available now but when we built our pool that was

all that was available to our knowledge

This works well for the older and more buoyant clients. They are able to

hold themselves down or sit in place without floating off the seat. It also

allows a more full range of motion for seated knee movement. Concrete

benches don't work well for this. We have had several clinics copy our pool

seating design and are very happy with the result. It works well.

Dehumidification..Look for heat recovery systems. Walter Stark at Nautica

Air Systems designs these types of systems.

http://www.nauticaairsystems.com/

Go salt water with dry acid to control the PH. Much safer for use and

storage (chlorine and muriatic acid are very volital/explosive). May be

worth investing in UV right away or at least putting the thought in to

design for later installation. Very expensive product and it may become a

requirement in the future due to the threat of Crypto (Cryptosporidium)

outbreaks. Also, saltwater and UV pools have the add value as a green

solution. Make sure you use a commercial salt water product. We use

ChlorKing. http://www.chlorking.com

Good luck. You have a challenging collaboration to work through.

Mark

Mark Simmerman

C.E.O. / Administrator

Cleburne Physical Therapy & Fitness Center

1014 N. Nolan River Road

Cleburne, Texas 76033

- Office

- Direct Fax

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of M. Howell PT, MPT

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 10:43 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: RE: Therapy pool

Hi Gabe,

Some other things that come to mind are:

1. Probably want to consider if they would have room to have a pool

separate from the main for therapy. Those that want to swim laps get pretty

upset if the pool has to be closed for classes. The configuration that

seems to work that I have seen is having a lap pool, a therapy pool, a

children's pool and a large whirlpool. Having the whirlpool is important

for therapy purposes as well

2. Depth: A true therapy pool has some variation in depth to

accommodate different height folks. You can't use the important principle

of buoyancy if you are always up to your neck or it only comes to your

waist.

3. Places to sit: An option is to have a ledge going around the

inside of part or all of the pool that clients can sit on (and still have

their heads out of the water. Makes the pool very adaptable for different

excercises.

4. Acoustics: Often forgotten but important when leading groups for

regular and therapy classes

5. Proximity to planned therapy rooms: Are they considering space for

a therapy clinic inside the facility? Make sure if they are that it is

close to the pool and locker areas so staff which must be there to supervise

are relatively close to the treatment area as well.

6. Steps into the pool are important as well as a lift or ramp

7. Areas to sit outside the pool. There may be people waiting for a

class or parents there observing children.

8. Areas to hang clothing, cubbies for clients/guests to put items and

areas to store wheelchairs. If the pool is used for therapy, clients may

have items they need to bring into the pool area that cannot be stored in

the locker room including the wheelchair. Make sure to have areas planned

for storage or else there will be safety issues.

9. Another good thing for a therapy pool is a handrail in the pool so

there can be walking or exercise using the handrail while still at a depth

for buoyancy.

Hope that helps!

M.Howell, P.T., M.P.T.

IPTA Payment Specialist

Meridian, Idaho

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Subject: Therapy pool

I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the

possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is

being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the

medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make

this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any

other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are

water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing

areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when

planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that

have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a

facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability

of this type of facility?

As always, thanks for your feedback.

Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT

River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine

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Another nice feature we missed out on in our pool, spill over gutters. This

prevents waving action in the pool.

Normal home type pools only have return baskets. Pool water movement/waves

in a home/hotel pool rebound off the walls and create ongoing waves. With

spill over gutters the waves spill over the side and do not rebound back in

to the pool. This is a much calmer pool in all applications but of course it

is more expensive option.

Mark

Mark Simmerman

Cleburne Physical Therapy & Fitness Center

1014 N. Nolan River Road

Cleburne, Texas 76033

- Office

- Direct Fax

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of Beckley

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 12:20 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: RE: Therapy pool

Gabe - I am sure that your group is probably aware of this, but it should be

at the top of the list:

Under Title III and as part of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design,

regulations of the Accessible Design for Recreational Facilities will

require all public pools and spas to be outfitted with an ADA compliant

swimming pool lift or sloped entry. The rule extends to places of " public

accommodations " including services establishments which has been defined to

include professional offices of health care providers. This regulation

which has a compliance effective date of March 12, 2012.

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Beckley & Associates LLC

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Subject: Therapy pool

I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the

possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is

being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the

medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make

this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any

other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are

water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing

areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when

planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that

have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a

facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability

of this type of facility?

As always, thanks for your feedback.

Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT

River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine

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Another nice feature we missed out on in our pool, spill over gutters. This

prevents waving action in the pool.

Normal home type pools only have return baskets. Pool water movement/waves

in a home/hotel pool rebound off the walls and create ongoing waves. With

spill over gutters the waves spill over the side and do not rebound back in

to the pool. This is a much calmer pool in all applications but of course it

is more expensive option.

Mark

Mark Simmerman

Cleburne Physical Therapy & Fitness Center

1014 N. Nolan River Road

Cleburne, Texas 76033

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Gabe - I am sure that your group is probably aware of this, but it should be

at the top of the list:

Under Title III and as part of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design,

regulations of the Accessible Design for Recreational Facilities will

require all public pools and spas to be outfitted with an ADA compliant

swimming pool lift or sloped entry. The rule extends to places of " public

accommodations " including services establishments which has been defined to

include professional offices of health care providers. This regulation

which has a compliance effective date of March 12, 2012.

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Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM

To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Therapy pool

I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the

possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is

being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the

medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make

this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any

other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are

water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing

areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when

planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that

have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a

facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability

of this type of facility?

As always, thanks for your feedback.

Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT

River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine

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Another nice feature we missed out on in our pool, spill over gutters. This

prevents waving action in the pool.

Normal home type pools only have return baskets. Pool water movement/waves

in a home/hotel pool rebound off the walls and create ongoing waves. With

spill over gutters the waves spill over the side and do not rebound back in

to the pool. This is a much calmer pool in all applications but of course it

is more expensive option.

Mark

Mark Simmerman

Cleburne Physical Therapy & Fitness Center

1014 N. Nolan River Road

Cleburne, Texas 76033

- Office

- Direct Fax

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of Beckley

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 12:20 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: RE: Therapy pool

Gabe - I am sure that your group is probably aware of this, but it should be

at the top of the list:

Under Title III and as part of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design,

regulations of the Accessible Design for Recreational Facilities will

require all public pools and spas to be outfitted with an ADA compliant

swimming pool lift or sloped entry. The rule extends to places of " public

accommodations " including services establishments which has been defined to

include professional offices of health care providers. This regulation

which has a compliance effective date of March 12, 2012.

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Beckley & Associates LLC

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[mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

Behalf

Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM

To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Therapy pool

I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the

possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is

being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the

medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make

this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any

other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are

water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing

areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when

planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that

have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a

facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability

of this type of facility?

As always, thanks for your feedback.

Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT

River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine

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If you plan to rent a portion of the pool for treatment, make sure you can close

the pool area to the public for therapy or have a separate area to treat

within.

Diane PT DPT MHA

Rehabilitation Manager

Langlade Health & Rehabilitation

112 E. 5th Ave.

Antigo, WI 54409

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From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

Gabe Freyaldenhoven

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Therapy pool

I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the

possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is

being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the

medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make

this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any

other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are

water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing

areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when

planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that

have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a

facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability

of this type of facility?

As always, thanks for your feedback.

Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT

River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine

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If you plan to rent a portion of the pool for treatment, make sure you can close

the pool area to the public for therapy or have a separate area to treat

within.

Diane PT DPT MHA

Rehabilitation Manager

Langlade Health & Rehabilitation

112 E. 5th Ave.

Antigo, WI 54409

PH:

Fax:

Nationally Ranked - Modern Healthcare's Top 100 " Best Places to Work in

Healthcare "

(Three Years in a Row - 2009, 2010 & 2011)

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From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

Gabe Freyaldenhoven

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Therapy pool

I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the

possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is

being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the

medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make

this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any

other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are

water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing

areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when

planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that

have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a

facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability

of this type of facility?

As always, thanks for your feedback.

Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT

River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine

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- Can you clarify for the group whether this pertains to existing

pools currently in use or just new or altered construction of  pools?

 

Thanks,

 

Mike Bigelow, PT

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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 11:19 AM

Subject: RE: Therapy pool

 

Gabe - I am sure that your group is probably aware of this, but it should be

at the top of the list:

Under Title III and as part of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design,

regulations of the Accessible Design for Recreational Facilities will

require all public pools and spas to be outfitted with an ADA compliant

swimming pool lift or sloped entry. The rule extends to places of " public

accommodations " including services establishments which has been defined to

include professional offices of health care providers. This regulation

which has a compliance effective date of March 12, 2012.

J. Beckley, MS, MBA, CHC | President

Beckley & Associates LLC

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From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of Gabe Freyaldenhoven

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Therapy pool

I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the

possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is

being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the

medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make

this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any

other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are

water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing

areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when

planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that

have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a

facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability

of this type of facility?

As always, thanks for your feedback.

Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT

River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine

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- Can you clarify for the group whether this pertains to existing

pools currently in use or just new or altered construction of  pools?

 

Thanks,

 

Mike Bigelow, PT

To: PTManager

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 11:19 AM

Subject: RE: Therapy pool

 

Gabe - I am sure that your group is probably aware of this, but it should be

at the top of the list:

Under Title III and as part of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design,

regulations of the Accessible Design for Recreational Facilities will

require all public pools and spas to be outfitted with an ADA compliant

swimming pool lift or sloped entry. The rule extends to places of " public

accommodations " including services establishments which has been defined to

include professional offices of health care providers. This regulation

which has a compliance effective date of March 12, 2012.

J. Beckley, MS, MBA, CHC | President

Beckley & Associates LLC

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From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Therapy pool

I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the

possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is

being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the

medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make

this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any

other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are

water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing

areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when

planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that

have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a

facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability

of this type of facility?

As always, thanks for your feedback.

Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT

River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine

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The Department of Justice 2010 ADA Standards are “accessible†(no pun

intended) in the link below. And to clarify, they are applicable to pools in

current use, as applicable under Title II (cities, municipalities etc) or Title

III (public accommodation), as well as to new and altered pools under Title II

and Title III. There are some limited safe harbors, so as with a lot of federal

regulations it is best to review in the context of the project with someone

experienced in ADA regulations/swimming pool design. The fines with the ADA can

be stiff, and the enforcer is the Office of Civil Rights.

<http://www.ada.gov/regs2010/2010ADAStandards/2010ADAstandards.htm>

http://www.ada.gov/regs2010/2010ADAStandards/2010ADAstandards.htm

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From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

Mike Bigelow

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:42 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: Therapy pool

- Can you clarify for the group whether this pertains to existing pools

currently in use or just new or altered construction of pools?

Thanks,

Mike Bigelow, PT

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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 11:19 AM

Subject: RE: Therapy pool

Gabe - I am sure that your group is probably aware of this, but it should be

at the top of the list:

Under Title III and as part of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design,

regulations of the Accessible Design for Recreational Facilities will

require all public pools and spas to be outfitted with an ADA compliant

swimming pool lift or sloped entry. The rule extends to places of " public

accommodations " including services establishments which has been defined to

include professional offices of health care providers. This regulation

which has a compliance effective date of March 12, 2012.

J. Beckley, MS, MBA, CHC | President

Beckley & Associates LLC

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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:20 PM

To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Therapy pool

I have been asked to be part of a focus group that is exploring the

possibility of building an indoor aquatic center for our community. This is

being built my our local city government. My role is to represent the

medical/therapy community regarding the things that would be needed to make

this a usable facility and for the center to be used for therapy or any

other medical purpose. The immediate things that have come to mind are

water accessibility(ramp or lift), temperature, and ensuring the changing

areas are fully accessible. What areas do I need to be aware of when

planning this type of facility? For those of you doing aquatics or that

have been a part of a community center, what are some necessities of a

facility like this and what are some things that have enhanced the usability

of this type of facility?

As always, thanks for your feedback.

Gabe Freyaldenhoven, PT

River Valley Therapy and Sports Medicine

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