Industrial Rehab/Work Conditioning

March 22, 2012

I am relatively new to the world of Industrial Rehab (I have not practiced in

this area myself, and am now managing it -- but still not a care provider..). I

have two employees who have been working in this department for over 20 years..

and so while they do have a vast amount of knowledge and experience; they are

also very " old-school, " and I am not convinced that they are keeping up to date

with rules and regs.

Can anyone direct me to any information, tools, etc on the

rules/regs/requirements for industrial rehab programs.. from documentation

requirements to billing.. etc. Anything would be helpful. Examples: how much

does one have to document for an 8-hour work conditioning session, and how does

it all show skilled intervention (or does it need to?)

I am told they do not need daily notes for these patients either... although if

they are dropping charges, I don't know how that is possible.

Please advise! Feel free to contact me directly.

Thank you-

Weiss

Director, Rehab Services

Schwab Rehabilitation Hospital

Chicago, IL

March 28, 2012

Your best bet to start is to review your state practice act and to make

sure you meet baseline regulatory supervision and documentation

guidelines. I would also check the history of payments based on bills

submitted.

Are these contractual agreements or work comp billing? Not many left

that actually pay for work conditioning based strictly on CPT codes

Feel free to contact me offline

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

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Ephraim McDowell Health

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Industrial Rehab/Work Conditioning

I am relatively new to the world of Industrial Rehab (I have not

practiced in this area myself, and am now managing it -- but still not a

care provider..). I have two employees who have been working in this

department for over 20 years.. and so while they do have a vast amount

of knowledge and experience; they are also very " old-school, " and I am

not convinced that they are keeping up to date with rules and regs.

Can anyone direct me to any information, tools, etc on the

rules/regs/requirements for industrial rehab programs.. from

documentation requirements to billing.. etc. Anything would be helpful.

Examples: how much does one have to document for an 8-hour work

conditioning session, and how does it all show skilled intervention (or

does it need to?)

I am told they do not need daily notes for these patients either...

although if they are dropping charges, I don't know how that is

possible.

Please advise! Feel free to contact me directly.

Thank you-

Weiss

Director, Rehab Services

Schwab Rehabilitation Hospital

Chicago, IL

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> Your best bet to start is to review your state practice act and to make

> sure you meet baseline regulatory supervision and documentation

> guidelines. I would also check the history of payments based on bills

> submitted.

> Are these contractual agreements or work comp billing? Not many left

> that actually pay for work conditioning based strictly on CPT codes

>

> Feel free to contact me offline

>

> Ron Barbato PT

> Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

> Program Director, Cancer Support Services

> Ephraim McDowell Health

> Voice:

> Fax:

> rbarbato@...

>

> PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information

> that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work

> product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable

> law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it

> and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the

> information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is

> STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please

> immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any

> attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you.

>

> Industrial Rehab/Work Conditioning

>

> I am relatively new to the world of Industrial Rehab (I have not

> practiced in this area myself, and am now managing it -- but still not a

> care provider..). I have two employees who have been working in this

> department for over 20 years.. and so while they do have a vast amount

> of knowledge and experience; they are also very " old-school, " and I am

> not convinced that they are keeping up to date with rules and regs.

> Can anyone direct me to any information, tools, etc on the

> rules/regs/requirements for industrial rehab programs.. from

> documentation requirements to billing.. etc. Anything would be helpful.

> Examples: how much does one have to document for an 8-hour work

> conditioning session, and how does it all show skilled intervention (or

> does it need to?)

> I am told they do not need daily notes for these patients either...

> although if they are dropping charges, I don't know how that is

> possible.

>

> Please advise! Feel free to contact me directly.

> Thank you-

>

> Weiss

> Director, Rehab Services

> Schwab Rehabilitation Hospital

> Chicago, IL

>

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>

> In ALL messages to PTManager you must identify yourself, your discipline

> and your location or else your message will not be approved to send to

> the full group.

>

> Physician Self Referal/Referral for Profit {POPTS} is a serious threat

> to our professions. PTManager is not available to support POPTS-model

> practices. The description of PTManager group includes the following:

> " PTManager believes in and supports Therapist-owned Therapy Practices

> ONLY "

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>

> PTManager encourages participation in your professional association.

> Join APTA, AOTA or ASHA and participate now!

>

> Follow Kovacek, PT on Facebook or Twitter.

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>

March 28, 2012