Guest guest Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Looking for advice. Does anyone else have issues with treatments exceeding ordered duration due to delays in obtaining pre-authorization? If so, how do you write your plan of care to ensure that all visits will be covered? We are a joint commission certified hospital based provider. Here is an example: The doctor writes work comp order for PT daily x 1 week. The therapist sees patient for initial evaluation on a Monday and submits paperwork for pre-authorization of additional visits. Pre-auth takes 3 days so the therapist sees the patient again on Friday but has now only seen the patient twice. The therapist needs to see the patient Mon-Wed of the following week to complete 5 visits before the patient returns to MD but the ordered duration (1 week) has been exceeded. We do not want to have to contact the doctor for updated orders each time this occurs which seems to be frequently. Here are options we have considered writing on our plan of care. We develop a written plan of care that we get signed by the MD for every patient. This POC then serves as the revised order. 1) Write " daily x 2 weeks " even though the original order is for 1 week. 2) Write " daily x 2 weeks (5 visits total) " 3) Write " daily x 1-2 weeks " (range order, is this acceptable?) 4) Write " daily times 1 week beginning upon receipt of pre-auth " . (Not approved by our compliance department because it appears to link treatment plan with payment.) Comments and suggestions welcome. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 I would suggest that you define treatment parameters in your POC including interventions, frequency and duration. If you have a working relationship with the MD/DO/LMP suggest they send orders simply for eval and treat and allow therapist to determine appropriate intervention intervals. I would also suggest that you contact the payers and tell them that you need a shorter approval timeline. With work comp , engage the company and the patient - they need customers as much as you do. Three day wait for approval on a WC is unacceptable IMHO Ron Barbato PT Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services Program Director, Cancer Support Services Ephraim McDowell Health Voice: Fax: rbarbato@... PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you. Frequency and Duration Looking for advice. Does anyone else have issues with treatments exceeding ordered duration due to delays in obtaining pre-authorization? If so, how do you write your plan of care to ensure that all visits will be covered? We are a joint commission certified hospital based provider. Here is an example: The doctor writes work comp order for PT daily x 1 week. The therapist sees patient for initial evaluation on a Monday and submits paperwork for pre-authorization of additional visits. Pre-auth takes 3 days so the therapist sees the patient again on Friday but has now only seen the patient twice. The therapist needs to see the patient Mon-Wed of the following week to complete 5 visits before the patient returns to MD but the ordered duration (1 week) has been exceeded. We do not want to have to contact the doctor for updated orders each time this occurs which seems to be frequently. Here are options we have considered writing on our plan of care. We develop a written plan of care that we get signed by the MD for every patient. This POC then serves as the revised order. 1) Write " daily x 2 weeks " even though the original order is for 1 week. 2) Write " daily x 2 weeks (5 visits total) " 3) Write " daily x 1-2 weeks " (range order, is this acceptable?) 4) Write " daily times 1 week beginning upon receipt of pre-auth " . (Not approved by our compliance department because it appears to link treatment plan with payment.) Comments and suggestions welcome. Thanks ------------------------------------ In ALL messages to PTManager you must identify yourself, your discipline and your location or else your message will not be approved to send to the full group. Physician Self Referal/Referral for Profit {POPTS} is a serious threat to our professions. PTManager is not available to support POPTS-model practices. The description of PTManager group includes the following: " PTManager believes in and supports Therapist-owned Therapy Practices ONLY " Messages relating to " how to set up a POPTS " will not be approved PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join APTA, AOTA or ASHA and participate now! Follow Kovacek, PT on Facebook or Twitter. PTManager blog: http://ptmanager.posterous.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 I would suggest that you define treatment parameters in your POC including interventions, frequency and duration. If you have a working relationship with the MD/DO/LMP suggest they send orders simply for eval and treat and allow therapist to determine appropriate intervention intervals. I would also suggest that you contact the payers and tell them that you need a shorter approval timeline. With work comp , engage the company and the patient - they need customers as much as you do. Three day wait for approval on a WC is unacceptable IMHO Ron Barbato PT Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services Program Director, Cancer Support Services Ephraim McDowell Health Voice: Fax: rbarbato@... PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you. Frequency and Duration Looking for advice. Does anyone else have issues with treatments exceeding ordered duration due to delays in obtaining pre-authorization? If so, how do you write your plan of care to ensure that all visits will be covered? We are a joint commission certified hospital based provider. Here is an example: The doctor writes work comp order for PT daily x 1 week. The therapist sees patient for initial evaluation on a Monday and submits paperwork for pre-authorization of additional visits. Pre-auth takes 3 days so the therapist sees the patient again on Friday but has now only seen the patient twice. The therapist needs to see the patient Mon-Wed of the following week to complete 5 visits before the patient returns to MD but the ordered duration (1 week) has been exceeded. We do not want to have to contact the doctor for updated orders each time this occurs which seems to be frequently. Here are options we have considered writing on our plan of care. We develop a written plan of care that we get signed by the MD for every patient. This POC then serves as the revised order. 1) Write " daily x 2 weeks " even though the original order is for 1 week. 2) Write " daily x 2 weeks (5 visits total) " 3) Write " daily x 1-2 weeks " (range order, is this acceptable?) 4) Write " daily times 1 week beginning upon receipt of pre-auth " . (Not approved by our compliance department because it appears to link treatment plan with payment.) Comments and suggestions welcome. Thanks ------------------------------------ In ALL messages to PTManager you must identify yourself, your discipline and your location or else your message will not be approved to send to the full group. Physician Self Referal/Referral for Profit {POPTS} is a serious threat to our professions. PTManager is not available to support POPTS-model practices. The description of PTManager group includes the following: " PTManager believes in and supports Therapist-owned Therapy Practices ONLY " Messages relating to " how to set up a POPTS " will not be approved PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join APTA, AOTA or ASHA and participate now! Follow Kovacek, PT on Facebook or Twitter. PTManager blog: http://ptmanager.posterous.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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