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IMHO, and having sat on a regulatory board for 7 years , If you do not

" hand off " care in a formal manner then you are technically the

therapist of record and subject to all documentation requirements .

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

Program Director, Cancer Support Services

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HH weekend eval

I was just cruising thru my state newsletter yesterday and noticed a few

therapists who got a disciplinary action for not having 30 re-evals or

dc

summary. I started thinking that I was maybe hanging my butt on the

line

since I do some weekend evals for a local HH agency and then turn the

patient over to their regular staff of PT /PTA team.

What kind of statement should I write to have coverage that the case is

actually picked up by the regular PT for coverage. I know the PTA well

and

she is meticulous about this but just wondered if others make a

statement on

the eval about releasing care to other PT. The PTA calls me on Monday

if

there are questions. Not trying to add paperwork and wonder is a

blanket

policy statement from the agency would be enough or how others address

this.

Steve Passmore PT, MS

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I, also work weekends PRN at a SNF. What is the legal and formal way to hand

these patients off to the staff therapists?

Thanks, Virginia Alberts PT

Mar 21, 2012 01:52:06 PM, PTManager wrote:

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IMHO, and having sat on a regulatory board for 7 years , If you do not

" hand off " care in a formal manner then you are technically the

therapist of record and subject to all documentation requirements .

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

Program Director, Cancer Support Services

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HH weekend eval

I was just cruising thru my state newsletter yesterday and noticed a few

therapists who got a disciplinary action for not having 30 re-evals or

dc

summary. I started thinking that I was maybe hanging my butt on the

line

since I do some weekend evals for a local HH agency and then turn the

patient over to their regular staff of PT /PTA team.

What kind of statement should I write to have coverage that the case is

actually picked up by the regular PT for coverage. I know the PTA well

and

she is meticulous about this but just wondered if others make a

statement on

the eval about releasing care to other PT. The PTA calls me on Monday

if

there are questions. Not trying to add paperwork and wonder is a

blanket

policy statement from the agency would be enough or how others address

this.

Steve Passmore PT, MS

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I, also work weekends PRN at a SNF. What is the legal and formal way to hand

these patients off to the staff therapists?

Thanks, Virginia Alberts PT

Mar 21, 2012 01:52:06 PM, PTManager wrote:

===========================================

 

IMHO, and having sat on a regulatory board for 7 years , If you do not

" hand off " care in a formal manner then you are technically the

therapist of record and subject to all documentation requirements .

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

Program Director, Cancer Support Services

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that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work

product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable

law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it

and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the

information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is

STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please

immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any

attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you.

HH weekend eval

I was just cruising thru my state newsletter yesterday and noticed a few

therapists who got a disciplinary action for not having 30 re-evals or

dc

summary. I started thinking that I was maybe hanging my butt on the

line

since I do some weekend evals for a local HH agency and then turn the

patient over to their regular staff of PT /PTA team.

What kind of statement should I write to have coverage that the case is

actually picked up by the regular PT for coverage. I know the PTA well

and

she is meticulous about this but just wondered if others make a

statement on

the eval about releasing care to other PT. The PTA calls me on Monday

if

there are questions. Not trying to add paperwork and wonder is a

blanket

policy statement from the agency would be enough or how others address

this.

Steve Passmore PT, MS

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I would love to hear response from Ron or someone with experience. For my part,

I started adding a statement at bottom of eval that “On Monday, I was turning

care of patient over to regular PT staff at agencyâ€. Not sure if that is

acceptable. I wish there was a formal feed-back loop of accepting the case but

I doubt that is happening in any setting so I wonder if that meets a community

standard. I am not sure how physicians handle the issues other than a statement

of handling the case off to another specialist, etc. Hospitals to hospital have

a formal procedure with transfers to avoid dumping issues.

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I, also work weekends PRN at a SNF. What is the legal and formal way to hand

these patients off to the staff therapists?

Thanks, Virginia Alberts PT

Mar 21, 2012 01:52:06 PM, PTManager

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IMHO, and having sat on a regulatory board for 7 years , If you do not

" hand off " care in a formal manner then you are technically the

therapist of record and subject to all documentation requirements .

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

Program Director, Cancer Support Services

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information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is

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immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any

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HH weekend eval

I was just cruising thru my state newsletter yesterday and noticed a few

therapists who got a disciplinary action for not having 30 re-evals or

dc

summary. I started thinking that I was maybe hanging my butt on the

line

since I do some weekend evals for a local HH agency and then turn the

patient over to their regular staff of PT /PTA team.

What kind of statement should I write to have coverage that the case is

actually picked up by the regular PT for coverage. I know the PTA well

and

she is meticulous about this but just wondered if others make a

statement on

the eval about releasing care to other PT. The PTA calls me on Monday

if

there are questions. Not trying to add paperwork and wonder is a

blanket

policy statement from the agency would be enough or how others address

this.

Steve Passmore PT, MS

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Document the patient transfer of care in the medical record.

I would indicate the name of the person to which the hand off is

directed.

I would suggest the organization also have a policy to support the

activity

The receiving PT should also indicate acceptance in a formal statement

that the POC you have developed is agreed upon

That way everyone is covered

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

Program Director, Cancer Support Services

Ephraim McDowell Health

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product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable

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and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the

information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is

STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please

immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any

attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you.

HH weekend eval

I was just cruising thru my state newsletter yesterday and noticed a few

therapists who got a disciplinary action for not having 30 re-evals or

dc

summary. I started thinking that I was maybe hanging my butt on the

line

since I do some weekend evals for a local HH agency and then turn the

patient over to their regular staff of PT /PTA team.

What kind of statement should I write to have coverage that the case is

actually picked up by the regular PT for coverage. I know the PTA well

and

she is meticulous about this but just wondered if others make a

statement on

the eval about releasing care to other PT. The PTA calls me on Monday

if

there are questions. Not trying to add paperwork and wonder is a

blanket

policy statement from the agency would be enough or how others address

this.

Steve Passmore PT, MS

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Thank you Ron and Steve very much for your input! I will be presenting this to

the rehab director and it sounds like a policy and procedure needs to be

developed and implemented!

pr 9, 2012 09:53:35 AM, PTManager wrote:

===========================================

 

Document the patient transfer of care in the medical record.

I would indicate the name of the person to which the hand off is

directed.

I would suggest the organization also have a policy to support the

activity

The receiving PT should also indicate acceptance in a formal statement

that the POC you have developed is agreed upon

That way everyone is covered

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

Program Director, Cancer Support Services

Ephraim McDowell Health

PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information

that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work

product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable

law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it

and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the

information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is

STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please

immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any

attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you.

HH weekend eval

I was just cruising thru my state newsletter yesterday and noticed a few

therapists who got a disciplinary action for not having 30 re-evals or

dc

summary. I started thinking that I was maybe hanging my butt on the

line

since I do some weekend evals for a local HH agency and then turn the

patient over to their regular staff of PT /PTA team.

What kind of statement should I write to have coverage that the case is

actually picked up by the regular PT for coverage. I know the PTA well

and

she is meticulous about this but just wondered if others make a

statement on

the eval about releasing care to other PT. The PTA calls me on Monday

if

there are questions. Not trying to add paperwork and wonder is a

blanket

policy statement from the agency would be enough or how others address

this.

Steve Passmore PT, MS

Healthy Recruiting Tools

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Thank you Ron and Steve very much for your input! I will be presenting this to

the rehab director and it sounds like a policy and procedure needs to be

developed and implemented!

pr 9, 2012 09:53:35 AM, PTManager wrote:

===========================================

 

Document the patient transfer of care in the medical record.

I would indicate the name of the person to which the hand off is

directed.

I would suggest the organization also have a policy to support the

activity

The receiving PT should also indicate acceptance in a formal statement

that the POC you have developed is agreed upon

That way everyone is covered

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

Program Director, Cancer Support Services

Ephraim McDowell Health

PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information

that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work

product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable

law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it

and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the

information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is

STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please

immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any

attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you.

HH weekend eval

I was just cruising thru my state newsletter yesterday and noticed a few

therapists who got a disciplinary action for not having 30 re-evals or

dc

summary. I started thinking that I was maybe hanging my butt on the

line

since I do some weekend evals for a local HH agency and then turn the

patient over to their regular staff of PT /PTA team.

What kind of statement should I write to have coverage that the case is

actually picked up by the regular PT for coverage. I know the PTA well

and

she is meticulous about this but just wondered if others make a

statement on

the eval about releasing care to other PT. The PTA calls me on Monday

if

there are questions. Not trying to add paperwork and wonder is a

blanket

policy statement from the agency would be enough or how others address

this.

Steve Passmore PT, MS

Healthy Recruiting Tools

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Thank you Ron and Steve very much for your input! I will be presenting this to

the rehab director and it sounds like a policy and procedure needs to be

developed and implemented!

pr 9, 2012 09:53:35 AM, PTManager wrote:

===========================================

 

Document the patient transfer of care in the medical record.

I would indicate the name of the person to which the hand off is

directed.

I would suggest the organization also have a policy to support the

activity

The receiving PT should also indicate acceptance in a formal statement

that the POC you have developed is agreed upon

That way everyone is covered

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

Program Director, Cancer Support Services

Ephraim McDowell Health

PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information

that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work

product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable

law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it

and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the

information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is

STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please

immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any

attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you.

HH weekend eval

I was just cruising thru my state newsletter yesterday and noticed a few

therapists who got a disciplinary action for not having 30 re-evals or

dc

summary. I started thinking that I was maybe hanging my butt on the

line

since I do some weekend evals for a local HH agency and then turn the

patient over to their regular staff of PT /PTA team.

What kind of statement should I write to have coverage that the case is

actually picked up by the regular PT for coverage. I know the PTA well

and

she is meticulous about this but just wondered if others make a

statement on

the eval about releasing care to other PT. The PTA calls me on Monday

if

there are questions. Not trying to add paperwork and wonder is a

blanket

policy statement from the agency would be enough or how others address

this.

Steve Passmore PT, MS

Healthy Recruiting Tools

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