Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 IMHO, and having sat on a regulatory board for 7 years , If you do not " hand off " care in a formal manner then you are technically the therapist of record and subject to all documentation requirements . Ron Barbato PT Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services Program Director, Cancer Support Services PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you. HH weekend eval I was just cruising thru my state newsletter yesterday and noticed a few therapists who got a disciplinary action for not having 30 re-evals or dc summary. I started thinking that I was maybe hanging my butt on the line since I do some weekend evals for a local HH agency and then turn the patient over to their regular staff of PT /PTA team. What kind of statement should I write to have coverage that the case is actually picked up by the regular PT for coverage. I know the PTA well and she is meticulous about this but just wondered if others make a statement on the eval about releasing care to other PT. The PTA calls me on Monday if there are questions. Not trying to add paperwork and wonder is a blanket policy statement from the agency would be enough or how others address this. Steve Passmore PT, MS Healthy Recruiting Tools spass@... Phone: Fax: " What We Did For You Yesterday Is History. What Can We Do For You Today " Recruiting Tools: Cold Calls ~ List Enhancement ~ Direct Mailers ~ Card Design ~ Recruiting Software Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I, also work weekends PRN at a SNF. What is the legal and formal way to hand these patients off to the staff therapists? Thanks, Virginia Alberts PT Mar 21, 2012 01:52:06 PM, PTManager wrote: =========================================== Â IMHO, and having sat on a regulatory board for 7 years , If you do not " hand off " care in a formal manner then you are technically the therapist of record and subject to all documentation requirements . Ron Barbato PT Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services Program Director, Cancer Support Services PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you. HH weekend eval I was just cruising thru my state newsletter yesterday and noticed a few therapists who got a disciplinary action for not having 30 re-evals or dc summary. I started thinking that I was maybe hanging my butt on the line since I do some weekend evals for a local HH agency and then turn the patient over to their regular staff of PT /PTA team. What kind of statement should I write to have coverage that the case is actually picked up by the regular PT for coverage. I know the PTA well and she is meticulous about this but just wondered if others make a statement on the eval about releasing care to other PT. The PTA calls me on Monday if there are questions. Not trying to add paperwork and wonder is a blanket policy statement from the agency would be enough or how others address this. Steve Passmore PT, MS Healthy Recruiting Tools spass@... Phone: Fax: " What We Did For You Yesterday Is History. What Can We Do For You Today " Recruiting Tools: Cold Calls ~ List Enhancement ~ Direct Mailers ~ Card Design ~ Recruiting Software Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I, also work weekends PRN at a SNF. What is the legal and formal way to hand these patients off to the staff therapists? Thanks, Virginia Alberts PT Mar 21, 2012 01:52:06 PM, PTManager wrote: =========================================== Â IMHO, and having sat on a regulatory board for 7 years , If you do not " hand off " care in a formal manner then you are technically the therapist of record and subject to all documentation requirements . Ron Barbato PT Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services Program Director, Cancer Support Services PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you. HH weekend eval I was just cruising thru my state newsletter yesterday and noticed a few therapists who got a disciplinary action for not having 30 re-evals or dc summary. I started thinking that I was maybe hanging my butt on the line since I do some weekend evals for a local HH agency and then turn the patient over to their regular staff of PT /PTA team. What kind of statement should I write to have coverage that the case is actually picked up by the regular PT for coverage. I know the PTA well and she is meticulous about this but just wondered if others make a statement on the eval about releasing care to other PT. The PTA calls me on Monday if there are questions. Not trying to add paperwork and wonder is a blanket policy statement from the agency would be enough or how others address this. Steve Passmore PT, MS Healthy Recruiting Tools spass@... Phone: Fax: " What We Did For You Yesterday Is History. What Can We Do For You Today " Recruiting Tools: Cold Calls ~ List Enhancement ~ Direct Mailers ~ Card Design ~ Recruiting Software Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I would love to hear response from Ron or someone with experience. For my part, I started adding a statement at bottom of eval that “On Monday, I was turning care of patient over to regular PT staff at agencyâ€. Not sure if that is acceptable. I wish there was a formal feed-back loop of accepting the case but I doubt that is happening in any setting so I wonder if that meets a community standard. I am not sure how physicians handle the issues other than a statement of handling the case off to another specialist, etc. Hospitals to hospital have a formal procedure with transfers to avoid dumping issues. Steve Passmore PT, MS Healthy Recruiting Tools spass@... Phone: Fax: “What We Did For You Yesterday Is History… What Can We Do For You Today†Recruiting Tools: Cold Calls ~ List Enhancement ~ Direct Mailers ~ Card Design ~ Recruiting Software From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of albertspt@... Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:34 PM To: PTManager Subject: Re: RE: HH weekend eval I, also work weekends PRN at a SNF. What is the legal and formal way to hand these patients off to the staff therapists? Thanks, Virginia Alberts PT Mar 21, 2012 01:52:06 PM, PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> wrote: =========================================== IMHO, and having sat on a regulatory board for 7 years , If you do not " hand off " care in a formal manner then you are technically the therapist of record and subject to all documentation requirements . Ron Barbato PT Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services Program Director, Cancer Support Services PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you. HH weekend eval I was just cruising thru my state newsletter yesterday and noticed a few therapists who got a disciplinary action for not having 30 re-evals or dc summary. I started thinking that I was maybe hanging my butt on the line since I do some weekend evals for a local HH agency and then turn the patient over to their regular staff of PT /PTA team. What kind of statement should I write to have coverage that the case is actually picked up by the regular PT for coverage. I know the PTA well and she is meticulous about this but just wondered if others make a statement on the eval about releasing care to other PT. The PTA calls me on Monday if there are questions. Not trying to add paperwork and wonder is a blanket policy statement from the agency would be enough or how others address this. Steve Passmore PT, MS Healthy Recruiting Tools spass@... <mailto:spass%40healthyrecruiting.com> Phone: Fax: " What We Did For You Yesterday Is History. What Can We Do For You Today " Recruiting Tools: Cold Calls ~ List Enhancement ~ Direct Mailers ~ Card Design ~ Recruiting Software Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Document the patient transfer of care in the medical record. I would indicate the name of the person to which the hand off is directed. I would suggest the organization also have a policy to support the activity The receiving PT should also indicate acceptance in a formal statement that the POC you have developed is agreed upon That way everyone is covered Ron Barbato PT Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services Program Director, Cancer Support Services Ephraim McDowell Health PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you. HH weekend eval I was just cruising thru my state newsletter yesterday and noticed a few therapists who got a disciplinary action for not having 30 re-evals or dc summary. I started thinking that I was maybe hanging my butt on the line since I do some weekend evals for a local HH agency and then turn the patient over to their regular staff of PT /PTA team. What kind of statement should I write to have coverage that the case is actually picked up by the regular PT for coverage. I know the PTA well and she is meticulous about this but just wondered if others make a statement on the eval about releasing care to other PT. The PTA calls me on Monday if there are questions. Not trying to add paperwork and wonder is a blanket policy statement from the agency would be enough or how others address this. Steve Passmore PT, MS Healthy Recruiting Tools spass@... <mailto:spass%40healthyrecruiting.com> Phone: Fax: " What We Did For You Yesterday Is History. What Can We Do For You Today " Recruiting Tools: Cold Calls ~ List Enhancement ~ Direct Mailers ~ Card Design ~ Recruiting Software Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Thank you Ron and Steve very much for your input! I will be presenting this to the rehab director and it sounds like a policy and procedure needs to be developed and implemented! pr 9, 2012 09:53:35 AM, PTManager wrote: =========================================== Â Document the patient transfer of care in the medical record. I would indicate the name of the person to which the hand off is directed. I would suggest the organization also have a policy to support the activity The receiving PT should also indicate acceptance in a formal statement that the POC you have developed is agreed upon That way everyone is covered Ron Barbato PT Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services Program Director, Cancer Support Services Ephraim McDowell Health PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you. HH weekend eval I was just cruising thru my state newsletter yesterday and noticed a few therapists who got a disciplinary action for not having 30 re-evals or dc summary. I started thinking that I was maybe hanging my butt on the line since I do some weekend evals for a local HH agency and then turn the patient over to their regular staff of PT /PTA team. What kind of statement should I write to have coverage that the case is actually picked up by the regular PT for coverage. I know the PTA well and she is meticulous about this but just wondered if others make a statement on the eval about releasing care to other PT. The PTA calls me on Monday if there are questions. Not trying to add paperwork and wonder is a blanket policy statement from the agency would be enough or how others address this. Steve Passmore PT, MS Healthy Recruiting Tools spass@... Phone: Fax: " What We Did For You Yesterday Is History. What Can We Do For You Today " Recruiting Tools: Cold Calls ~ List Enhancement ~ Direct Mailers ~ Card Design ~ Recruiting Software Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Thank you Ron and Steve very much for your input! I will be presenting this to the rehab director and it sounds like a policy and procedure needs to be developed and implemented! pr 9, 2012 09:53:35 AM, PTManager wrote: =========================================== Â Document the patient transfer of care in the medical record. I would indicate the name of the person to which the hand off is directed. I would suggest the organization also have a policy to support the activity The receiving PT should also indicate acceptance in a formal statement that the POC you have developed is agreed upon That way everyone is covered Ron Barbato PT Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services Program Director, Cancer Support Services Ephraim McDowell Health PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you. HH weekend eval I was just cruising thru my state newsletter yesterday and noticed a few therapists who got a disciplinary action for not having 30 re-evals or dc summary. I started thinking that I was maybe hanging my butt on the line since I do some weekend evals for a local HH agency and then turn the patient over to their regular staff of PT /PTA team. What kind of statement should I write to have coverage that the case is actually picked up by the regular PT for coverage. I know the PTA well and she is meticulous about this but just wondered if others make a statement on the eval about releasing care to other PT. The PTA calls me on Monday if there are questions. Not trying to add paperwork and wonder is a blanket policy statement from the agency would be enough or how others address this. Steve Passmore PT, MS Healthy Recruiting Tools spass@... Phone: Fax: " What We Did For You Yesterday Is History. What Can We Do For You Today " Recruiting Tools: Cold Calls ~ List Enhancement ~ Direct Mailers ~ Card Design ~ Recruiting Software Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Thank you Ron and Steve very much for your input! I will be presenting this to the rehab director and it sounds like a policy and procedure needs to be developed and implemented! pr 9, 2012 09:53:35 AM, PTManager wrote: =========================================== Â Document the patient transfer of care in the medical record. I would indicate the name of the person to which the hand off is directed. I would suggest the organization also have a policy to support the activity The receiving PT should also indicate acceptance in a formal statement that the POC you have developed is agreed upon That way everyone is covered Ron Barbato PT Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services Program Director, Cancer Support Services Ephraim McDowell Health PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you. HH weekend eval I was just cruising thru my state newsletter yesterday and noticed a few therapists who got a disciplinary action for not having 30 re-evals or dc summary. I started thinking that I was maybe hanging my butt on the line since I do some weekend evals for a local HH agency and then turn the patient over to their regular staff of PT /PTA team. What kind of statement should I write to have coverage that the case is actually picked up by the regular PT for coverage. I know the PTA well and she is meticulous about this but just wondered if others make a statement on the eval about releasing care to other PT. The PTA calls me on Monday if there are questions. Not trying to add paperwork and wonder is a blanket policy statement from the agency would be enough or how others address this. Steve Passmore PT, MS Healthy Recruiting Tools spass@... Phone: Fax: " What We Did For You Yesterday Is History. What Can We Do For You Today " Recruiting Tools: Cold Calls ~ List Enhancement ~ Direct Mailers ~ Card Design ~ Recruiting Software Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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