Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hi , I understand your feelings about the beeping meter - I have that one too and share your dislike of it. It is cumbersome, requires too much blood, doesn't respond when it should (i.e. several seconds after the blood has been applied), and have had defective drums. I also understand that it is the only audible option out there available to us to figure out what your BG reading is. As a matter of fact, my wife spoke to Roche quite some time ago - maybe late spring - and they said that that the meter was still going through the approval process before Health Canada. So it's the same old issue. They said that the box itself would be about $500. Who knows, I don't know if it will be that expensive though, they didn't seem to know a lot. But you can buy a lot of Prodigy strips for that price. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hi , the $500 was supposedly for the talking box to go with a meter that is under approval with Health Canada. The meter itself isn't that expensive, and doesn't talk either. Whether that comes to pass, I don't know. Larry said: I can't believe Roesch is going to charge so much for their next meter. The last one cost that much, the strips were at least $4- for 50 strips and the thing was big as a brick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hi , the $500 was supposedly for the talking box to go with a meter that is under approval with Health Canada. The meter itself isn't that expensive, and doesn't talk either. Whether that comes to pass, I don't know. Larry said: I can't believe Roesch is going to charge so much for their next meter. The last one cost that much, the strips were at least $4- for 50 strips and the thing was big as a brick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hi , the $500 was supposedly for the talking box to go with a meter that is under approval with Health Canada. The meter itself isn't that expensive, and doesn't talk either. Whether that comes to pass, I don't know. Larry said: I can't believe Roesch is going to charge so much for their next meter. The last one cost that much, the strips were at least $4- for 50 strips and the thing was big as a brick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hi Ruth, I'm a member of AEBC, and that's great to know that the blindness groups have written letters. Is there somewhere I could write a letter as well to perhaps prod them along a bit faster, do you know? Jen talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hi Ruth, I'm a member of AEBC, and that's great to know that the blindness groups have written letters. Is there somewhere I could write a letter as well to perhaps prod them along a bit faster, do you know? Jen talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hi Ruth, I'm a member of AEBC, and that's great to know that the blindness groups have written letters. Is there somewhere I could write a letter as well to perhaps prod them along a bit faster, do you know? Jen talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hi Jen, I had it at one time. Let me try to find it and I will post it to the list. Ruth From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Jesso Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:59 PM To: blind-diabetics Subject: RE: talking meters in Canada Hi Ruth, I'm a member of AEBC, and that's great to know that the blindness groups have written letters. Is there somewhere I could write a letter as well to perhaps prod them along a bit faster, do you know? Jen talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hi Jen, I had it at one time. Let me try to find it and I will post it to the list. Ruth From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Jesso Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:59 PM To: blind-diabetics Subject: RE: talking meters in Canada Hi Ruth, I'm a member of AEBC, and that's great to know that the blindness groups have written letters. Is there somewhere I could write a letter as well to perhaps prod them along a bit faster, do you know? Jen talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hi Jen, I had it at one time. Let me try to find it and I will post it to the list. Ruth From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Jesso Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:59 PM To: blind-diabetics Subject: RE: talking meters in Canada Hi Ruth, I'm a member of AEBC, and that's great to know that the blindness groups have written letters. Is there somewhere I could write a letter as well to perhaps prod them along a bit faster, do you know? Jen talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hi Larry, You've got it right. Once Health Canada approves the meter, then the formularies have to approve it in each province for coverage under their pharmacare program. However, if I'm not mistaken, your doctor can right the pharmacare to each program requesting coverage for his/her patient at least until it is approved on that level. As far as being charged for the meters, at this point I think he is going to charge, but keep it as reasonably priced as in the States. But who knows, things may change on charging for the meter,so don't hold me to that but I do know that no matter what it will be reasonably priced. Ruth From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Larry Naessens Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:51 AM To: blind-diabetics Subject: Re: talking meters in Canada Hi Ruth. I agree. We should be outraged at the cost of many devices designed specifically for blind use. I suppose that they charge what the market will tolerate, but when the market is, to a large degree a captive market, some, including me, see too many instances of exploitation. One question regarding what you've written here. You mentioned that after Health canada approves the Prodigy, we will have to fight to get it accepted into each of our provincial health plans. Does this mean that during that time the device will be available but only if the person using it is willing to front the cost? Also, unless I'm mistaken, (and it would be far from the first time,) the Prodigy was offered at no cost in the States, as is the case with many meters both here and south of our border. Will it be available for free in Canada at some point? Larry talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hi Larry, You've got it right. Once Health Canada approves the meter, then the formularies have to approve it in each province for coverage under their pharmacare program. However, if I'm not mistaken, your doctor can right the pharmacare to each program requesting coverage for his/her patient at least until it is approved on that level. As far as being charged for the meters, at this point I think he is going to charge, but keep it as reasonably priced as in the States. But who knows, things may change on charging for the meter,so don't hold me to that but I do know that no matter what it will be reasonably priced. Ruth From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Larry Naessens Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:51 AM To: blind-diabetics Subject: Re: talking meters in Canada Hi Ruth. I agree. We should be outraged at the cost of many devices designed specifically for blind use. I suppose that they charge what the market will tolerate, but when the market is, to a large degree a captive market, some, including me, see too many instances of exploitation. One question regarding what you've written here. You mentioned that after Health canada approves the Prodigy, we will have to fight to get it accepted into each of our provincial health plans. Does this mean that during that time the device will be available but only if the person using it is willing to front the cost? Also, unless I'm mistaken, (and it would be far from the first time,) the Prodigy was offered at no cost in the States, as is the case with many meters both here and south of our border. Will it be available for free in Canada at some point? Larry talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Hi all: I am just still feeling sad that the strips are no longer going to be available after Dec. 8th. I see that machine sitting there beside a perfectly working machine that does the readings for me and I'll just basicly have to throw it away. it stinks. I have been doing my bg's independently for years now, and I have to go back to a sighted person reading it to me. Grrr! Love and Hugs and the Furry ones. Anything on the ground is a cat toy. Anything not there yet, will be. talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Do you pay a percentage of the cost of your strips and lancets now? Remember, the Prodigy can be purchased for just over $20 (US) per bottle of 50. That's quite a bit cheaper than other strips if I'm not mistaken. If you could manage to come up with the cost of the Prodigy Voice (around $90 US), what you would pay for the Prodigy strips may not be all that different than the percentage of what you might be paying for the One Touch strips. As far as throwing out equipment and devices, well, that's a hard one for me too! Over the years though, it's what you have to do since technology quickly outdates the life span of the equipment. I've thrown out computers, monitors, a cassette tape deck, and things like that. It seems like such a waste, but there's not too much you can do about it. Dave God doesn't hate sinners, just sin! talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Do you pay a percentage of the cost of your strips and lancets now? Remember, the Prodigy can be purchased for just over $20 (US) per bottle of 50. That's quite a bit cheaper than other strips if I'm not mistaken. If you could manage to come up with the cost of the Prodigy Voice (around $90 US), what you would pay for the Prodigy strips may not be all that different than the percentage of what you might be paying for the One Touch strips. As far as throwing out equipment and devices, well, that's a hard one for me too! Over the years though, it's what you have to do since technology quickly outdates the life span of the equipment. I've thrown out computers, monitors, a cassette tape deck, and things like that. It seems like such a waste, but there's not too much you can do about it. Dave God doesn't hate sinners, just sin! talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Hi Dave. The idea that I'm going to mention here won't work for medical stuff, but for some of the other items that you have mentioned needing to throw out, I might have a solution. You might want to see if there is a freecycle group active in your area. It's an easy way to get rid of things you no longer need. You just post items that you want to give away and other group members will generally respond showing interest. You then choose someone to receive the item and they come and pick it up. We've given away a lot of things that we don't need and we've also received items that we would have had to pay for otherwise. As you can imagine, computers and other electronics are hot items. I posted a cassette deck a couple of weeks ago and received a half dozen requests for it. Over the years, I've received a backup computer, stereo gear and more. To learn more or to find out if there is a freecycle group active in your area, check out the following address. http://www.freecycle.org/ Not exactly on topick I guess, but maybe it will help someone. Larry Larry Naessens Vinyl Trans4mations A Division of Jalana Enterprises Bradford, Ontario Phone: Vinyl Trans4mations, a Burn Above the Rest At Vinyl Trans4mations, we turn old records and tapes into brand new CDs that you can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at www.vinylguycafe.com. We welcome all of your enquiries by phone or email. Before sending us your media, please contact us for important shipping instructions. talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Hi Dave. The idea that I'm going to mention here won't work for medical stuff, but for some of the other items that you have mentioned needing to throw out, I might have a solution. You might want to see if there is a freecycle group active in your area. It's an easy way to get rid of things you no longer need. You just post items that you want to give away and other group members will generally respond showing interest. You then choose someone to receive the item and they come and pick it up. We've given away a lot of things that we don't need and we've also received items that we would have had to pay for otherwise. As you can imagine, computers and other electronics are hot items. I posted a cassette deck a couple of weeks ago and received a half dozen requests for it. Over the years, I've received a backup computer, stereo gear and more. To learn more or to find out if there is a freecycle group active in your area, check out the following address. http://www.freecycle.org/ Not exactly on topick I guess, but maybe it will help someone. Larry Larry Naessens Vinyl Trans4mations A Division of Jalana Enterprises Bradford, Ontario Phone: Vinyl Trans4mations, a Burn Above the Rest At Vinyl Trans4mations, we turn old records and tapes into brand new CDs that you can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at www.vinylguycafe.com. We welcome all of your enquiries by phone or email. Before sending us your media, please contact us for important shipping instructions. talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Hi Dave, As you said, it is not a huge price to pay for a bottle of strips. Each province in Canada has it's own pharmacare program, much like the States, and each province does it's own thing. Here in Manitoba where I live, you pay a deductible based on a percentage of your income. Once you reach this point, everything else becomes free and covered by the government. So, if I was buying here, all those test strips would add up to help make the deductible and then once reached I would get the test strips for free.. Personally and fortunately I am able not to care about the money. My health is worth more than worrying about getting it covered. If you are on welfare, it is all covered no matter what. Ruth From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of dave Bond Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:53 AM To: blind-diabetics Subject: Re: talking meters in Canada Do you pay a percentage of the cost of your strips and lancets now? Remember, the Prodigy can be purchased for just over $20 (US) per bottle of 50. That's quite a bit cheaper than other strips if I'm not mistaken. If you could manage to come up with the cost of the Prodigy Voice (around $90 US), what you would pay for the Prodigy strips may not be all that different than the percentage of what you might be paying for the One Touch strips. As far as throwing out equipment and devices, well, that's a hard one for me too! Over the years though, it's what you have to do since technology quickly outdates the life span of the equipment. I've thrown out computers, monitors, a cassette tape deck, and things like that. It seems like such a waste, but there's not too much you can do about it. Dave God doesn't hate sinners, just sin! talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Hi Dave, As you said, it is not a huge price to pay for a bottle of strips. Each province in Canada has it's own pharmacare program, much like the States, and each province does it's own thing. Here in Manitoba where I live, you pay a deductible based on a percentage of your income. Once you reach this point, everything else becomes free and covered by the government. So, if I was buying here, all those test strips would add up to help make the deductible and then once reached I would get the test strips for free.. Personally and fortunately I am able not to care about the money. My health is worth more than worrying about getting it covered. If you are on welfare, it is all covered no matter what. Ruth From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of dave Bond Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:53 AM To: blind-diabetics Subject: Re: talking meters in Canada Do you pay a percentage of the cost of your strips and lancets now? Remember, the Prodigy can be purchased for just over $20 (US) per bottle of 50. That's quite a bit cheaper than other strips if I'm not mistaken. If you could manage to come up with the cost of the Prodigy Voice (around $90 US), what you would pay for the Prodigy strips may not be all that different than the percentage of what you might be paying for the One Touch strips. As far as throwing out equipment and devices, well, that's a hard one for me too! Over the years though, it's what you have to do since technology quickly outdates the life span of the equipment. I've thrown out computers, monitors, a cassette tape deck, and things like that. It seems like such a waste, but there's not too much you can do about it. Dave God doesn't hate sinners, just sin! talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Hi Dave: No I don't have to pay for the strips or lansits right now. But I'll do what I have to do to remain independent in that way. I wish I could get my hubby to throw out some old stuff. We have a vic 20, a comador 64, an omega 500, that is just the computers. I still won't throw out my cassette recorder as it still works well for me. I still have a couple of people that I write letters too on casette. Would you believe that I still have a reel to reel tape recorder? I need to have something fixed on it, but I still love that old thing. I have books on reel to reel tape. Woopse I guess I kind of got off diabetic subjects didn't I? Love and Hugs and the Furry ones. Anything on the ground is a cat toy. Anything not there yet, will be. talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Hi Dave: No I don't have to pay for the strips or lansits right now. But I'll do what I have to do to remain independent in that way. I wish I could get my hubby to throw out some old stuff. We have a vic 20, a comador 64, an omega 500, that is just the computers. I still won't throw out my cassette recorder as it still works well for me. I still have a couple of people that I write letters too on casette. Would you believe that I still have a reel to reel tape recorder? I need to have something fixed on it, but I still love that old thing. I have books on reel to reel tape. Woopse I guess I kind of got off diabetic subjects didn't I? Love and Hugs and the Furry ones. Anything on the ground is a cat toy. Anything not there yet, will be. talking meters in Canada Hello, I know that I work for DDI but I want everyone to know that I am just as impatient for Health Canada to be done as everyone else. I too need a talking meter and pay for my strips, etc. Things become harder for manufacturers to bring things into Canada because it must be translated into French because we officially are a bilingual country. Many do not bring things up here because of this cost. To be honest, I suspect that Roche is just re-selling re-furbished Voice mates. The reason they never made it up here is because of some gadget which measured the insulin bottles contents as well as the fact it did not read mmo/l. As for the cost, we should be outraged at that and not pay it. It has been proven that the cost does not need to be that high. They're just being greedy and taking advantage of the situation! Shame on them!Just to let you know, the Alliance for Equality for Blind Canadians (A.E.B.C.) and the Canadian Council for the Blind(CCB) have written letters to Health Canada on our behalf trying to get the Prodigy meters here faster. Even a senator. As for C.N.I.B. they are useless. They will not even pass on information about anything which will help their blind clients as this could be viewed as endorsing a product. What a crock! As for the CDA and and the rest of us blind diabetics, we will have to help get everything approved yet so everyone is happy and that includes me too. After the meter is approved by Health Canada, we will still need to fight to have it covered under each of our provincial health plans. I send my boss some of our e-mails from the Canadians on this list to show him how much we want and need the meter and he does what he can but he must wait too. Just as frustrated, Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Yes indeed, each province is different, and Ontario is so often considered a 'have' province, when in fact, medicare, not so much. Here we can be diagnosed up the ying yang for nothing, but to buy the drugs, it is either covered by private insurance through our employers if we are lucky enough, or by the government only if one is a senior or on social assistance. There are many people who do not get any help - those who work on contract, have their own businesses, work part time, or work for a small company without benefits. Even those individuals on unemployment don't get a break. That's a lot of people who are in these categories, and they often don't have the resources to just buy what they need. If one can't rack up enough receipts for income tax break, upwards of $2,000 in receipts, there's no benefit there either. For those of us who are lucky enough to have a plan through our employers, we usually have a co-pay arrangement. However, the Prodigy strips would cost us out of pocket, because our private plan won't cover unapproved items, and we would have to rack up alot of strips before that purchasewould benefit us at all as most of our prescriptions are covered under the provincial health plan. True, the strips are only about $20 each, but with shipping costs (I'm sure, because everything does), it becomes a rather expensive proposition. However, this is the reality, and we will deal with it accordingly. Ruth said: Each province in Canada has it's own pharmacare program, much like the States, and each province does it's own thing. Here in Manitoba where I live, you pay a deductible based on a percentage of your income. Once you reach this point, everything else becomes free and covered by the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Yes indeed, each province is different, and Ontario is so often considered a 'have' province, when in fact, medicare, not so much. Here we can be diagnosed up the ying yang for nothing, but to buy the drugs, it is either covered by private insurance through our employers if we are lucky enough, or by the government only if one is a senior or on social assistance. There are many people who do not get any help - those who work on contract, have their own businesses, work part time, or work for a small company without benefits. Even those individuals on unemployment don't get a break. That's a lot of people who are in these categories, and they often don't have the resources to just buy what they need. If one can't rack up enough receipts for income tax break, upwards of $2,000 in receipts, there's no benefit there either. For those of us who are lucky enough to have a plan through our employers, we usually have a co-pay arrangement. However, the Prodigy strips would cost us out of pocket, because our private plan won't cover unapproved items, and we would have to rack up alot of strips before that purchasewould benefit us at all as most of our prescriptions are covered under the provincial health plan. True, the strips are only about $20 each, but with shipping costs (I'm sure, because everything does), it becomes a rather expensive proposition. However, this is the reality, and we will deal with it accordingly. Ruth said: Each province in Canada has it's own pharmacare program, much like the States, and each province does it's own thing. Here in Manitoba where I live, you pay a deductible based on a percentage of your income. Once you reach this point, everything else becomes free and covered by the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Hi folks, just want to let you know that Roche now has a new talking meter. It is a voice Mate Plus, which works with the Accucheck Compact Plus meter. It sounds like it is very similar to the old Voice Mate, as far as accessibility. Apparently the meter just sits on the box and is connected via an infrared port, has a keypad much like a phone keypad to perform all of the functions. The cost is $300. Just thought you might want to know. Re: talking meters in Canada Yes indeed, each province is different, and Ontario is so often considered a 'have' province, when in fact, medicare, not so much. Here we can be diagnosed up the ying yang for nothing, but to buy the drugs, it is either covered by private insurance through our employers if we are lucky enough, or by the government only if one is a senior or on social assistance. There are many people who do not get any help - those who work on contract, have their own businesses, work part time, or work for a small company without benefits. Even those individuals on unemployment don't get a break. That's a lot of people who are in these categories, and they often don't have the resources to just buy what they need. If one can't rack up enough receipts for income tax break, upwards of $2,000 in receipts, there's no benefit there either. For those of us who are lucky enough to have a plan through our employers, we usually have a co-pay arrangement. However, the Prodigy strips would cost us out of pocket, because our private plan won't cover unapproved items, and we would have to rack up alot of strips before that purchasewould benefit us at all as most of our prescriptions are covered under the provincial health plan. True, the strips are only about $20 each, but with shipping costs (I'm sure, because everything does), it becomes a rather expensive proposition. However, this is the reality, and we will deal with it accordingly. Ruth said: Each province in Canada has it's own pharmacare program, much like the States, and each province does it's own thing. Here in Manitoba where I live, you pay a deductible based on a percentage of your income. Once you reach this point, everything else becomes free and covered by the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Hi , at least an option is available, albeit a very expensive one. I guess in light of the passing of the One Touch Profile, it is timely. However, I am still frustrated with this whole thing. So instead of the 20 year old technology offered by the One Touch Profile and the talking box, Roche is now offering a meter that will work with their talking box for quite a chunk of change, for technology that was made available 10 years ago, in 1998, finally arrives in Canada. Meanwhile the rest of the world has moved on, and use honest to goodness talking meters, except for those in Canada, who are waiting for one of these to be approved. *sigh* *stepping off my soapbox now* Sorry guys, just expressing a little frustration with this slower than sludge process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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