Re: lymphadema patients

[Guest guest]

Great points. So why do therapists keep using STG'S? To me, they add another

layer of documentation and burden but with no corresponding benefits.

Thanks,

Ron Carson, MHS, OT

[Guest guest]

Great points. So why do therapists keep using STG'S? To me, they add another

layer of documentation and burden but with no corresponding benefits.

Thanks,

Ron Carson, MHS, OT

[Guest guest]

Great points. So why do therapists keep using STG'S? To me, they add another

layer of documentation and burden but with no corresponding benefits.

Thanks,

Ron Carson, MHS, OT

[Guest guest]

Hello,

We have a Lymphadema Program at our Hospital.

We outline at Evaluation the costs involved and set expectations with potential

patients.

Patients incur certain costs as many parts of care are not always covered.

We developed a devoted room for this with sink, special table and equipment and

a credenza with future compression sleeves et al on display.

Not many of these around, and patients who do find you are very appreciative of

care and usually willing to work costs with you.

Our vendors also have charity care items at times as well.

Feel free to call me.

E. Lynn MS PT

Director of Rehabilitation

Marlton Rehabilitation Hospital

92 Brick Rd.

Marlton, NJ 08055

ext 4204

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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:26 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: lymphadema patients

We are an outpatient dept in a hospital setting. We are contemplating the cost

efficiency of an outpt lymphadema program. Wondering if anyone could share any

info on the likely reimbursement rates for manual treatment of lymphadema

patients - from Medicare or other insurance companies - given that the treatment

takes 1 hour one-on one. I assume that the materials needed are costly as well.

Thanks in advance.

, Manager Rehab

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[Guest guest]

Hello,

We have a Lymphadema Program at our Hospital.

We outline at Evaluation the costs involved and set expectations with potential

patients.

Patients incur certain costs as many parts of care are not always covered.

We developed a devoted room for this with sink, special table and equipment and

a credenza with future compression sleeves et al on display.

Not many of these around, and patients who do find you are very appreciative of

care and usually willing to work costs with you.

Our vendors also have charity care items at times as well.

Feel free to call me.

E. Lynn MS PT

Director of Rehabilitation

Marlton Rehabilitation Hospital

92 Brick Rd.

Marlton, NJ 08055

ext 4204

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:26 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: lymphadema patients

We are an outpatient dept in a hospital setting. We are contemplating the cost

efficiency of an outpt lymphadema program. Wondering if anyone could share any

info on the likely reimbursement rates for manual treatment of lymphadema

patients - from Medicare or other insurance companies - given that the treatment

takes 1 hour one-on one. I assume that the materials needed are costly as well.

Thanks in advance.

, Manager Rehab

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[Guest guest]

We provide lymphedema services through our hospital-based outpatient OT program.

Medicare reimbursement for lymphedema is the same as with other services - very

low. Manual therapy is manual therapy, therapeutic ex is therapeutic ex,

whether it's with a lymph patient or an orthopedic patient. We almost always

provide one-on-one treatments for all of our outpatients, so this is not that

different a concept for us.

We do have a fairly heavy caseload of Medicare patients particularly for LE

lymphedema. UE lymphedema is often through commercial insurance as those

patients are frequently women who have undergone

mastectomies/lumpectomies/radiation etc. so they tend to be a younger

population. The bandaging supplies unfortunately aren't reimbursed. We supply

them for the first session, and then after that the patients are responsible for

their future supplies.

So, it's not a huge money-maker. We provide the service because it's

desperately needed in our community. We do get the commercial insurance

patients as well so it balances out. Plus, most of our patients are happy with

us when they're done, so they help us to market this and other services within

our system to their friends and their physicians. Ultimately the bottom line

will depend on your payer mix and this will fluctuate.

Hope this helps,

~a

a Hranicka, OT/L

Clinical Program Leader

Occupational Therapy, HealthPlace Physical & Hand Therapy

Tuality Healthcare | 1200 NE 48th Ave, Suite 700, Hillsboro, OR 97124

- office | - fax

[Guest guest]

Not to be " that guy " , but I wanted to make a quick note that it's spelled

lymphEdema. Just remember that " edema " is a part of the word.

Thanks,

~a

a Hranicka, OT/L

Clinical Program Leader

Occupational Therapy, HealthPlace Physical & Hand Therapy

Tuality Healthcare | 1200 NE 48th Ave, Suite 700, Hillsboro, OR 97124

- office | - fax