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only if you are a C.O.R.F, these facilities require a Medical Director becuase

they have direct access to pt's w/o a referral. I am in florida so not sure if

your state is the same.

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Group,

e are a newly established private PT practice. Are we required to obtain a

edical director in some capacity?

att Dvorak, PT

ankton, SD

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Hi, Adam --

After 30 years dealing with Rehab Agencies, that's news. Which of the

Conditions of Participation for Outpatient Rehabilitation Agencies (ORF)

clearly states that they must have a medical director?

Dick Hillyer, PT, DPT, MBA, MSM

Dr. Hillyer

Hillyer Consulting

Cape Coral, FL 33914

www.DickHillyer.com

RHillyer@...

@RHillyer

KK4HQE

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Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:26 PM

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Cc: ptmanager

Subject: Re: medical director

Rehab Agencies are required. We have one.

Adam P. Carson, DPT, OCS

3231 Main Street, Suite 3

, AR 72022

www.carsonphysicaltherapy.com

On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Matt Dvorak <fatguyonbike@...

<mailto:fatguyonbike%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

> Group,

> We are a newly established private PT practice. Are we required to obtain

a medical director in some capacity?

> Matt Dvorak, PT

> Yankton, SD

>

>

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Hi, Adam --

After 30 years dealing with Rehab Agencies, that's news. Which of the

Conditions of Participation for Outpatient Rehabilitation Agencies (ORF)

clearly states that they must have a medical director?

Dick Hillyer, PT, DPT, MBA, MSM

Dr. Hillyer

Hillyer Consulting

Cape Coral, FL 33914

www.DickHillyer.com

RHillyer@...

@RHillyer

KK4HQE

_____

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of Apcarson

Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:26 PM

To: PTManager

Cc: ptmanager

Subject: Re: medical director

Rehab Agencies are required. We have one.

Adam P. Carson, DPT, OCS

3231 Main Street, Suite 3

, AR 72022

www.carsonphysicaltherapy.com

On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Matt Dvorak <fatguyonbike@...

<mailto:fatguyonbike%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

> Group,

> We are a newly established private PT practice. Are we required to obtain

a medical director in some capacity?

> Matt Dvorak, PT

> Yankton, SD

>

>

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When we went through accreditation as a rehab agency in 2003, we were told by

the Dept. of Health that we had to have one. I'd been warned of this and already

had one lined up. When we had a site visit in 2003 and 2006, they asked each

time to see the medical director agreement. We renew it yearly,and it's

non-paying.

Adam P. Carson, DPT, OCS

3231 Main Street, Suite 3

, AR 72022

www.carsonphysicaltherapy.com

> Hi, Adam --

>

> After 30 years dealing with Rehab Agencies, that's news. Which of the

> Conditions of Participation for Outpatient Rehabilitation Agencies (ORF)

> clearly states that they must have a medical director?

>

> Dick Hillyer, PT, DPT, MBA, MSM

>

>

>

> Dr. Hillyer

> Hillyer Consulting

> Cape Coral, FL 33914

> www.DickHillyer.com

> RHillyer@...

> @RHillyer

> KK4HQE

>

>

> _____

>

> From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

> Of Apcarson

> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:26 PM

> To: PTManager

> Cc: ptmanager

> Subject: Re: medical director

>

> Rehab Agencies are required. We have one.

>

> Adam P. Carson, DPT, OCS

> 3231 Main Street, Suite 3

> , AR 72022

> www.carsonphysicaltherapy.com

>

> On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Matt Dvorak <fatguyonbike@...

> <mailto:fatguyonbike%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

>

> > Group,

> > We are a newly established private PT practice. Are we required to obtain

> a medical director in some capacity?

> > Matt Dvorak, PT

> > Yankton, SD

> >

> >

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When we went through accreditation as a rehab agency in 2003, we were told by

the Dept. of Health that we had to have one. I'd been warned of this and already

had one lined up. When we had a site visit in 2003 and 2006, they asked each

time to see the medical director agreement. We renew it yearly,and it's

non-paying.

Adam P. Carson, DPT, OCS

3231 Main Street, Suite 3

, AR 72022

www.carsonphysicaltherapy.com

> Hi, Adam --

>

> After 30 years dealing with Rehab Agencies, that's news. Which of the

> Conditions of Participation for Outpatient Rehabilitation Agencies (ORF)

> clearly states that they must have a medical director?

>

> Dick Hillyer, PT, DPT, MBA, MSM

>

>

>

> Dr. Hillyer

> Hillyer Consulting

> Cape Coral, FL 33914

> www.DickHillyer.com

> RHillyer@...

> @RHillyer

> KK4HQE

>

>

> _____

>

> From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

> Of Apcarson

> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:26 PM

> To: PTManager

> Cc: ptmanager

> Subject: Re: medical director

>

> Rehab Agencies are required. We have one.

>

> Adam P. Carson, DPT, OCS

> 3231 Main Street, Suite 3

> , AR 72022

> www.carsonphysicaltherapy.com

>

> On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Matt Dvorak <fatguyonbike@...

> <mailto:fatguyonbike%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

>

> > Group,

> > We are a newly established private PT practice. Are we required to obtain

> a medical director in some capacity?

> > Matt Dvorak, PT

> > Yankton, SD

> >

> >

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When we went through accreditation as a rehab agency in 2003, we were told by

the Dept. of Health that we had to have one. I'd been warned of this and already

had one lined up. When we had a site visit in 2003 and 2006, they asked each

time to see the medical director agreement. We renew it yearly,and it's

non-paying.

Adam P. Carson, DPT, OCS

3231 Main Street, Suite 3

, AR 72022

www.carsonphysicaltherapy.com

> Hi, Adam --

>

> After 30 years dealing with Rehab Agencies, that's news. Which of the

> Conditions of Participation for Outpatient Rehabilitation Agencies (ORF)

> clearly states that they must have a medical director?

>

> Dick Hillyer, PT, DPT, MBA, MSM

>

>

>

> Dr. Hillyer

> Hillyer Consulting

> Cape Coral, FL 33914

> www.DickHillyer.com

> RHillyer@...

> @RHillyer

> KK4HQE

>

>

> _____

>

> From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

> Of Apcarson

> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:26 PM

> To: PTManager

> Cc: ptmanager

> Subject: Re: medical director

>

> Rehab Agencies are required. We have one.

>

> Adam P. Carson, DPT, OCS

> 3231 Main Street, Suite 3

> , AR 72022

> www.carsonphysicaltherapy.com

>

> On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Matt Dvorak <fatguyonbike@...

> <mailto:fatguyonbike%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

>

> > Group,

> > We are a newly established private PT practice. Are we required to obtain

> a medical director in some capacity?

> > Matt Dvorak, PT

> > Yankton, SD

> >

> >

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A Rehab Agency does not require a Medical Director by the Conditions of

Participation, nor have the Interpretive Guidelines suggested that as a guidance

for surveyors. The Interpretive Guideline for Condition of Participation

485.709(d) requires that the “facility should have written patient care

policies, based on accepted standards of practice for all services provided,

that govern the outpatient physical therapy and/or speech pathology services and

related services that are provided. Patient care policies are established by the

professional staff of the clinic or rehabilitation agency and, where

appropriate, outside professionals who function as a patient care policy

committee. The professional staff preparing the patient care policies should

include at least one physician and at least one qualified physical therapist (if

physical therapy services are provided) and at least one qualified speech

pathologist (if speech pathology services are provided). “ Rehab agencies can

fulfill this requirement by having a physician participate annually in the

review and updating of policies, which does not require a medical directorship.

Additionally the Rehab Agency requirement to have a physician on call for

emergencies was eliminated several years ago, although the interpretive

guidelines have not been updated to reflect that (and other )changes in the CoP.

A CORF requires physician services as a core component by the Condition of

Participation 485.58(a), and most CORFs as part of fulfilling this requirement

(in part) by establishing a “medical director†relationship with the

physician who is fulfilling the CORF core physician service requirement.

It would appear that your State may have a requirement for a Medical Director,

or that the State Agency survey team is interpreting the standard to require a

medical director, which it does not!

J. Beckley, MS, MBA, CHC | President

Beckley & Associates LLC

P | F

<http://nancybeckley.com/> nancybeckley.com |

<http://rehabcomplianceblog.com/> rehabcomplianceblog.com

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From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

Apcarson

Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:56 PM

To: PTManager

Cc: <PTManager >

Subject: Re: medical director

When we went through accreditation as a rehab agency in 2003, we were told by

the Dept. of Health that we had to have one. I'd been warned of this and already

had one lined up. When we had a site visit in 2003 and 2006, they asked each

time to see the medical director agreement. We renew it yearly,and it's

non-paying.

Adam P. Carson, DPT, OCS

3231 Main Street, Suite 3

, AR 72022

www.carsonphysicaltherapy.com

On Jun 29, 2012, at 7:26 PM, " Dick Hillyer " <RHillyer@...

<mailto:RHillyer%40Comcast.net> > wrote:

> Hi, Adam --

>

> After 30 years dealing with Rehab Agencies, that's news. Which of the

> Conditions of Participation for Outpatient Rehabilitation Agencies (ORF)

> clearly states that they must have a medical director?

>

> Dick Hillyer, PT, DPT, MBA, MSM

>

>

>

> Dr. Hillyer

> Hillyer Consulting

> Cape Coral, FL 33914

> www.DickHillyer.com

> RHillyer@... <mailto:RHillyer%40Comcast.net>

> @RHillyer

> KK4HQE

>

>

> _____

>

> From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

Behalf

> Of Apcarson

> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:26 PM

> To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

> Cc: ptmanager <mailto:ptmanager%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: medical director

>

> Rehab Agencies are required. We have one.

>

> Adam P. Carson, DPT, OCS

> 3231 Main Street, Suite 3

> , AR 72022

> www.carsonphysicaltherapy.com

>

> On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Matt Dvorak <fatguyonbike@...

<mailto:fatguyonbike%40yahoo.com>

> <mailto:fatguyonbike%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

>

> > Group,

> > We are a newly established private PT practice. Are we required to obtain

> a medical director in some capacity?

> > Matt Dvorak, PT

> > Yankton, SD

> >

> >

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A Rehab Agency does not require a Medical Director by the Conditions of

Participation, nor have the Interpretive Guidelines suggested that as a guidance

for surveyors. The Interpretive Guideline for Condition of Participation

485.709(d) requires that the “facility should have written patient care

policies, based on accepted standards of practice for all services provided,

that govern the outpatient physical therapy and/or speech pathology services and

related services that are provided. Patient care policies are established by the

professional staff of the clinic or rehabilitation agency and, where

appropriate, outside professionals who function as a patient care policy

committee. The professional staff preparing the patient care policies should

include at least one physician and at least one qualified physical therapist (if

physical therapy services are provided) and at least one qualified speech

pathologist (if speech pathology services are provided). “ Rehab agencies can

fulfill this requirement by having a physician participate annually in the

review and updating of policies, which does not require a medical directorship.

Additionally the Rehab Agency requirement to have a physician on call for

emergencies was eliminated several years ago, although the interpretive

guidelines have not been updated to reflect that (and other )changes in the CoP.

A CORF requires physician services as a core component by the Condition of

Participation 485.58(a), and most CORFs as part of fulfilling this requirement

(in part) by establishing a “medical director†relationship with the

physician who is fulfilling the CORF core physician service requirement.

It would appear that your State may have a requirement for a Medical Director,

or that the State Agency survey team is interpreting the standard to require a

medical director, which it does not!

J. Beckley, MS, MBA, CHC | President

Beckley & Associates LLC

P | F

<http://nancybeckley.com/> nancybeckley.com |

<http://rehabcomplianceblog.com/> rehabcomplianceblog.com

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From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

Apcarson

Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:56 PM

To: PTManager

Cc: <PTManager >

Subject: Re: medical director

When we went through accreditation as a rehab agency in 2003, we were told by

the Dept. of Health that we had to have one. I'd been warned of this and already

had one lined up. When we had a site visit in 2003 and 2006, they asked each

time to see the medical director agreement. We renew it yearly,and it's

non-paying.

Adam P. Carson, DPT, OCS

3231 Main Street, Suite 3

, AR 72022

www.carsonphysicaltherapy.com

On Jun 29, 2012, at 7:26 PM, " Dick Hillyer " <RHillyer@...

<mailto:RHillyer%40Comcast.net> > wrote:

> Hi, Adam --

>

> After 30 years dealing with Rehab Agencies, that's news. Which of the

> Conditions of Participation for Outpatient Rehabilitation Agencies (ORF)

> clearly states that they must have a medical director?

>

> Dick Hillyer, PT, DPT, MBA, MSM

>

>

>

> Dr. Hillyer

> Hillyer Consulting

> Cape Coral, FL 33914

> www.DickHillyer.com

> RHillyer@... <mailto:RHillyer%40Comcast.net>

> @RHillyer

> KK4HQE

>

>

> _____

>

> From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

Behalf

> Of Apcarson

> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:26 PM

> To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

> Cc: ptmanager <mailto:ptmanager%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: medical director

>

> Rehab Agencies are required. We have one.

>

> Adam P. Carson, DPT, OCS

> 3231 Main Street, Suite 3

> , AR 72022

> www.carsonphysicaltherapy.com

>

> On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Matt Dvorak <fatguyonbike@...

<mailto:fatguyonbike%40yahoo.com>

> <mailto:fatguyonbike%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

>

> > Group,

> > We are a newly established private PT practice. Are we required to obtain

> a medical director in some capacity?

> > Matt Dvorak, PT

> > Yankton, SD

> >

> >

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A Rehab Agency does not require a Medical Director by the Conditions of

Participation, nor have the Interpretive Guidelines suggested that as a guidance

for surveyors. The Interpretive Guideline for Condition of Participation

485.709(d) requires that the “facility should have written patient care

policies, based on accepted standards of practice for all services provided,

that govern the outpatient physical therapy and/or speech pathology services and

related services that are provided. Patient care policies are established by the

professional staff of the clinic or rehabilitation agency and, where

appropriate, outside professionals who function as a patient care policy

committee. The professional staff preparing the patient care policies should

include at least one physician and at least one qualified physical therapist (if

physical therapy services are provided) and at least one qualified speech

pathologist (if speech pathology services are provided). “ Rehab agencies can

fulfill this requirement by having a physician participate annually in the

review and updating of policies, which does not require a medical directorship.

Additionally the Rehab Agency requirement to have a physician on call for

emergencies was eliminated several years ago, although the interpretive

guidelines have not been updated to reflect that (and other )changes in the CoP.

A CORF requires physician services as a core component by the Condition of

Participation 485.58(a), and most CORFs as part of fulfilling this requirement

(in part) by establishing a “medical director†relationship with the

physician who is fulfilling the CORF core physician service requirement.

It would appear that your State may have a requirement for a Medical Director,

or that the State Agency survey team is interpreting the standard to require a

medical director, which it does not!

J. Beckley, MS, MBA, CHC | President

Beckley & Associates LLC

P | F

<http://nancybeckley.com/> nancybeckley.com |

<http://rehabcomplianceblog.com/> rehabcomplianceblog.com

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From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

Apcarson

Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:56 PM

To: PTManager

Cc: <PTManager >

Subject: Re: medical director

When we went through accreditation as a rehab agency in 2003, we were told by

the Dept. of Health that we had to have one. I'd been warned of this and already

had one lined up. When we had a site visit in 2003 and 2006, they asked each

time to see the medical director agreement. We renew it yearly,and it's

non-paying.

Adam P. Carson, DPT, OCS

3231 Main Street, Suite 3

, AR 72022

www.carsonphysicaltherapy.com

On Jun 29, 2012, at 7:26 PM, " Dick Hillyer " <RHillyer@...

<mailto:RHillyer%40Comcast.net> > wrote:

> Hi, Adam --

>

> After 30 years dealing with Rehab Agencies, that's news. Which of the

> Conditions of Participation for Outpatient Rehabilitation Agencies (ORF)

> clearly states that they must have a medical director?

>

> Dick Hillyer, PT, DPT, MBA, MSM

>

>

>

> Dr. Hillyer

> Hillyer Consulting

> Cape Coral, FL 33914

> www.DickHillyer.com

> RHillyer@... <mailto:RHillyer%40Comcast.net>

> @RHillyer

> KK4HQE

>

>

> _____

>

> From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

Behalf

> Of Apcarson

> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:26 PM

> To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

> Cc: ptmanager <mailto:ptmanager%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: medical director

>

> Rehab Agencies are required. We have one.

>

> Adam P. Carson, DPT, OCS

> 3231 Main Street, Suite 3

> , AR 72022

> www.carsonphysicaltherapy.com

>

> On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Matt Dvorak <fatguyonbike@...

<mailto:fatguyonbike%40yahoo.com>

> <mailto:fatguyonbike%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

>

> > Group,

> > We are a newly established private PT practice. Are we required to obtain

> a medical director in some capacity?

> > Matt Dvorak, PT

> > Yankton, SD

> >

> >

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