Guest guest Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Mark, I messaged you privately but in a nutshell I have only positive things to say about it... Gerhart PT, MS, OCS, Cert MDT Mountain Land Physical Therapy (208)422-9826 > ** > > > > > Can I get any input about what you think or know or ART? Have been hearing > of it a lot recently and the course is very expensive and I heard not > recognized by apta? > > irstackedsig3 > > Mark Niles PT, MS, CSCS > Integrated Rehab. PA > mniles@... > 954-816.1029 > fax > > This message, together with any attachments, is intended only for the > addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, > confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > distribution, use, or any action or reliance on this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please > notify the sender immediately by telephone () or by return > e-mail and delete the message, along with any attachments > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Hi. From other PT's I have tlaked with around the country, they say ART is a technique that has minimal research behind it. I believe that a chiropractor " invented " . You need to spend a lot of money on the courses. youlease the equipment (implements), you have to recertify every few years (for more money by watching a tape etc). and if you want to be listed on their website I was tole you have to pay money for that too. I am treating a top level soccer player who was injured by a " graston " practitioner. The athlete is finally getting better. All the best Ivashenko PT DPT OCS CProT alex51057@... Re: active release technique Mark, I messaged you privately but in a nutshell I have only positive things to say about it... Gerhart PT, MS, OCS, Cert MDT Mountain Land Physical Therapy (208)422-9826 > ** > > > > > Can I get any input about what you think or know or ART? Have been hearing > of it a lot recently and the course is very expensive and I heard not > recognized by apta? > > irstackedsig3 > > Mark Niles PT, MS, CSCS > Integrated Rehab. PA > mniles@... > 954-816.1029 > fax > > This message, together with any attachments, is intended only for the > addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, > confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > distribution, use, or any action or reliance on this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please > notify the sender immediately by telephone () or by return > e-mail and delete the message, along with any attachments > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Actually, there's no equipment used for ART. Graston/Astym/Gua Sha are totally different. > ** > > > Hi. > > From other PT's I have tlaked with around the country, they say ART is a > technique that has minimal research behind it. I believe that a > chiropractor " invented " . You need to spend a lot of money on the courses. > youlease the equipment (implements), you have to recertify every few years > (for more money by watching a tape etc). and if you want to be listed on > their website I was tole you have to pay money for that too. I am treating > a top level soccer player who was injured by a " graston " practitioner. The > athlete is finally getting better. > > All the best > > Ivashenko PT DPT OCS CProT > alex51057@... > > > Re: active release technique > > Mark, I messaged you privately but in a nutshell I have only positive > things to say about it... > > Gerhart PT, MS, OCS, Cert MDT > Mountain Land Physical Therapy > (208)422-9826 > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Mark Niles > wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > Can I get any input about what you think or know or ART? Have been > hearing > > of it a lot recently and the course is very expensive and I heard not > > recognized by apta? > > > > irstackedsig3 > > > > Mark Niles PT, MS, CSCS > > Integrated Rehab. PA > > mniles@... > > 954-816.1029 > > fax > > > > This message, together with any attachments, is intended only for the > > addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, > > confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended > > recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > > distribution, use, or any action or reliance on this communication is > > strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please > > notify the sender immediately by telephone () or by return > > e-mail and delete the message, along with any attachments > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I perform ART and have not recertified in a few years due to the fees you have to pay, but I have taken all the courses for Full Body Certification and get excellent results with all my patients, surgical and non-surgical.  Great technique, but pricey because they are a business. I advice to take all the courses and one Masters course.  You will see awesome results! Graston is an excellent technique as well but I like to use my hands to dx proper tissue integrity issues.  Hope this helps.  Hankins, PT President Synergy Therapies, LLC http://www.synergytherapiesofkc.com/   ________________________________ To: PTManager Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:56 PM Subject: Re: active release technique  Hi. From other PT's I have tlaked with around the country, they say ART is a technique that has minimal research behind it. I believe that a chiropractor " invented " . You need to spend a lot of money on the courses. youlease the equipment (implements), you have to recertify every few years (for more money by watching a tape etc). and if you want to be listed on their website I was tole you have to pay money for that too. I am treating a top level soccer player who was injured by a " graston " practitioner. The athlete is finally getting better. All the best Ivashenko PT DPT OCS CProT mailto:alex51057%40aol.com Re: active release technique Mark, I messaged you privately but in a nutshell I have only positive things to say about it... Gerhart PT, MS, OCS, Cert MDT Mountain Land Physical Therapy (208)422-9826 On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Mark Niles <mailto:mniles%40orthospecpa.net> wrote: > ** > > > > > Can I get any input about what you think or know or ART? Have been hearing > of it a lot recently and the course is very expensive and I heard not > recognized by apta? > > irstackedsig3 > > Mark Niles PT, MS, CSCS > Integrated Rehab. PA > mailto:mniles%40Integratedrehab.com > 954-816.1029 > fax > > This message, together with any attachments, is intended only for the > addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, > confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > distribution, use, or any action or reliance on this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please > notify the sender immediately by telephone () or by return > e-mail and delete the message, along with any attachments > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 , I am confused by your response. Are you confusing ART (Active Release Technique) with Graston? They are two separate techniques. Kim Cohee, PT, DPT, MS, OCS, MBA University of Utah Orthopaedic Center Salt Lake City, Utah. From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Ivashenko Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:57 AM To: PTManager Subject: Re: active release technique Hi. From other PT's I have tlaked with around the country, they say ART is a technique that has minimal research behind it. I believe that a chiropractor " invented " . You need to spend a lot of money on the courses. youlease the equipment (implements), you have to recertify every few years (for more money by watching a tape etc). and if you want to be listed on their website I was tole you have to pay money for that too. I am treating a top level soccer player who was injured by a " graston " practitioner. The athlete is finally getting better. All the best Ivashenko PT DPT OCS CProT alex51057@...<mailto:alex51057%40aol.com> Re: active release technique Mark, I messaged you privately but in a nutshell I have only positive things to say about it... Gerhart PT, MS, OCS, Cert MDT Mountain Land Physical Therapy (208)422-9826 On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Mark Niles <mniles@...<mailto:mniles%40orthospecpa.net>> wrote: > ** > > > > > Can I get any input about what you think or know or ART? Have been hearing > of it a lot recently and the course is very expensive and I heard not > recognized by apta? > > irstackedsig3 > > Mark Niles PT, MS, CSCS > Integrated Rehab. PA > mniles@...<mailto:mniles%40Integratedrehab.com> > 954-816.1029 > fax > > This message, together with any attachments, is intended only for the > addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, > confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > distribution, use, or any action or reliance on this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please > notify the sender immediately by telephone () or by return > e-mail and delete the message, along with any attachments > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Hi Kim, It seems i was given partially incorrect info on ART. I stand corrected except for the fees to go through the courses etc. ASTIM and graston etc use implements. I don't see any valid research out there. I see a lot of Chiros (Leahy the founder in particular) trying to branch out into areas with minimal back up especially with all research out there for effective techniques....... The official ART website claims that it is “a patented, state of the art soft tissue system/movement based massage technique.†The mention of a “state-of-the-art†patent makes it sound special. Patenting a therapy does not mean that it’s an effective therapy, of course — it simply protects the patent holder’s right to financially exploit a distinct concept without competition. Pin-and-stretch massage has never been specifically studied. It is completely unknown whether or not it is more or less effective than any other kind of massage therapy, and the effectiveness of massage therapy itself is generally unknown. So there is no proof or any evidence at all that ART works, and only the “idea†of it can be considered. Ivashenko alex51057@... Re: active release technique Mark, I messaged you privately but in a nutshell I have only positive things to say about it... Gerhart PT, MS, OCS, Cert MDT Mountain Land Physical Therapy (208)422-9826 On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Mark Niles <mniles@...<mailto:mniles%40orthospecpa.net>>; wrote: > ** > > > > > Can I get any input about what you think or know or ART? Have been hearing > of it a lot recently and the course is very expensive and I heard not > recognized by apta? > > irstackedsig3 > > Mark Niles PT, MS, CSCS > Integrated Rehab. PA > mniles@...<mailto:mniles%40Integratedrehab.com>; > 954-816.1029 > fax > > This message, together with any attachments, is intended only for the > addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, > confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > distribution, use, or any action or reliance on this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please > notify the sender immediately by telephone () or by return > e-mail and delete the message, along with any attachments > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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