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Hi ,

You do not need to anything as far as your company license etc. You will be

a contractor to the SNF and therefore will be working with their patients as

if you were their employees. You should receive an orientation to the

facility to understand the regulations guiding the SNF. All you need is

current licenses, the facility may want a background check to be done by you

as all working in a SNF need to have. Also some medical, again the facility

may do that.

Remember, when you are in the SNF, you are expected to follow all of their

P & Ps. The facility should provide you with some basic training.

Good luck.

ine

ine M. o, PT, CEEAA

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Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:31 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Med A Contract

I run an outpatient office and we are working on a contract with an SNF to

see their Med A patients. The SNF will be billing Med A and we will be

invoicing the SNF for the minutes we see their patients. Does anyone have

any experience with this and know the appropriate licenses needed? Is our

current Florida state health care license sufficient good or do we need to

upgrade our license. Any information would be very helpful.

Thank you for your time,

Weflen, DPT, ATC/L

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Hi ,

You do not need to anything as far as your company license etc. You will be

a contractor to the SNF and therefore will be working with their patients as

if you were their employees. You should receive an orientation to the

facility to understand the regulations guiding the SNF. All you need is

current licenses, the facility may want a background check to be done by you

as all working in a SNF need to have. Also some medical, again the facility

may do that.

Remember, when you are in the SNF, you are expected to follow all of their

P & Ps. The facility should provide you with some basic training.

Good luck.

ine

ine M. o, PT, CEEAA

Owner

Encompass Consulting & Education, LLC

8114 NW 100th Terrace, Tamarac, FL 33321-1259

We work hard to make sure you are " getting it right from the start " . Visit

our website at <http://www.encompassmedicare.com/>

www.encompassmedicare.com and see what we can do for you. While there sign

up for our free e-mail Newsletter " Medicare News and Rules for Therapists " .

We specialize in consulting services, seminars and customized education

services to providers of Medicare rehabilitation therapy and related

services.

NOTICE: This communication is intended only for the use of the individual or

entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is

privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If

the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient or the

employee or agent responsible for delivering the communication, you are

hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this

communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this

communication in error, please notify me immediately by replying to this

email.

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of bweflen

Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:31 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Med A Contract

I run an outpatient office and we are working on a contract with an SNF to

see their Med A patients. The SNF will be billing Med A and we will be

invoicing the SNF for the minutes we see their patients. Does anyone have

any experience with this and know the appropriate licenses needed? Is our

current Florida state health care license sufficient good or do we need to

upgrade our license. Any information would be very helpful.

Thank you for your time,

Weflen, DPT, ATC/L

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Hi ,

You do not need to anything as far as your company license etc. You will be

a contractor to the SNF and therefore will be working with their patients as

if you were their employees. You should receive an orientation to the

facility to understand the regulations guiding the SNF. All you need is

current licenses, the facility may want a background check to be done by you

as all working in a SNF need to have. Also some medical, again the facility

may do that.

Remember, when you are in the SNF, you are expected to follow all of their

P & Ps. The facility should provide you with some basic training.

Good luck.

ine

ine M. o, PT, CEEAA

Owner

Encompass Consulting & Education, LLC

8114 NW 100th Terrace, Tamarac, FL 33321-1259

We work hard to make sure you are " getting it right from the start " . Visit

our website at <http://www.encompassmedicare.com/>

www.encompassmedicare.com and see what we can do for you. While there sign

up for our free e-mail Newsletter " Medicare News and Rules for Therapists " .

We specialize in consulting services, seminars and customized education

services to providers of Medicare rehabilitation therapy and related

services.

NOTICE: This communication is intended only for the use of the individual or

entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is

privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If

the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient or the

employee or agent responsible for delivering the communication, you are

hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this

communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this

communication in error, please notify me immediately by replying to this

email.

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of bweflen

Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:31 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Med A Contract

I run an outpatient office and we are working on a contract with an SNF to

see their Med A patients. The SNF will be billing Med A and we will be

invoicing the SNF for the minutes we see their patients. Does anyone have

any experience with this and know the appropriate licenses needed? Is our

current Florida state health care license sufficient good or do we need to

upgrade our license. Any information would be very helpful.

Thank you for your time,

Weflen, DPT, ATC/L

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The facility is the billing agent and is billing for a rate based on a RUG

assessment level. Your responsibility lies in (1)providing correct

treatment, (2)at a level that is appropriate for the patient; and (3) to

support your billing, etc. with accurate accounting. You need to understand

their systems and the Part A methodology to keep the facility out of trouble

and a good relationship.

As far as your invoice, facilities my choose to pay you hourly, per minute,

percent of rug, or a mixture. you are not billing Medicare. In your

contract, they may require you to attend certain meetings, provide

non-billable screenings, etc. that you should be ready for. They may ask

you to do a pay back of invoice dollars if the claim is denied based on the

therapy acceptance by Medicare; however, that should be in the contract (You

should have the right to assist in the appeal and their billing office must

give you notice of denial process starting in the contract).

Learn the rules and procedures to avoid a painful back end.

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From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of bweflen

Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:31 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Med A Contract

I run an outpatient office and we are working on a contract with an SNF to

see their Med A patients. The SNF will be billing Med A and we will be

invoicing the SNF for the minutes we see their patients. Does anyone have

any experience with this and know the appropriate licenses needed? Is our

current Florida state health care license sufficient good or do we need to

upgrade our license. Any information would be very helpful.

Thank you for your time,

Weflen, DPT, ATC/L

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I currently run an outpatient therapy office. We have been asked to provide

Medicare A services for an adjacent SNF. Has anyone been in this situation and

if so, can you share with me the contract rates you use (per minute) to provide

therapy services?

If you don't wish to share rates on the public forum, you can email me at

bweflen@...

Any information would be helpful.

Thank you,

Weflen, DPT, ATC/L

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