Guest guest Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Hello, My company has been giving Seminars on SNF PPS System since 1999. WE always have great responses to our classes. We will also be starting a series of Webcast starting the end of June. Please visit our website for further information. Regards, ine ine M. o, PT, CEEAA Owner Encompass Consulting & Education, LLC 8114 NW 100th Terrace, Tamarac, FL 33321-1259 We work hard to make sure you are " getting it right from the start " . Visit our website at <http://www.encompassmedicare.com/> www.encompassmedicare.com and see what we can do for you. While there sign up for our free e-mail Newsletter " Medicare News and Rules for Therapists " . We specialize in consulting services, seminars and customized education services to providers of Medicare rehabilitation therapy and related services. NOTICE: This communication is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the communication, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify me immediately by replying to this email. From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of bweflen Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:59 AM To: PTManager Subject: PPS I currently work in an outpatient PT office, but we will soon be contracting with a SNF to provide therapy services. Does anyone have a good suggestion for continuing education classes regarding PPS and RUGS? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Hello, My company has been giving Seminars on SNF PPS System since 1999. WE always have great responses to our classes. We will also be starting a series of Webcast starting the end of June. Please visit our website for further information. Regards, ine ine M. o, PT, CEEAA Owner Encompass Consulting & Education, LLC 8114 NW 100th Terrace, Tamarac, FL 33321-1259 We work hard to make sure you are " getting it right from the start " . Visit our website at <http://www.encompassmedicare.com/> www.encompassmedicare.com and see what we can do for you. While there sign up for our free e-mail Newsletter " Medicare News and Rules for Therapists " . We specialize in consulting services, seminars and customized education services to providers of Medicare rehabilitation therapy and related services. NOTICE: This communication is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the communication, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify me immediately by replying to this email. From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of bweflen Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:59 AM To: PTManager Subject: PPS I currently work in an outpatient PT office, but we will soon be contracting with a SNF to provide therapy services. Does anyone have a good suggestion for continuing education classes regarding PPS and RUGS? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Im not saying what they are doing is right, but to me its also unethical what the insurances are doing. Just because a person walked a 150 ft does not mean they are ready to go home. As we all know there is more to it than just distance. Like how long did it take to walk it or how much help did they need or where they fatigued severely after. Some will discharge once you write 150 No matter what and that is wrong. The patient may still need help. What are we to do in this case? Geno PTA Owner Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid Re: PPS I have a question for the group if you work in acute rehab. I have had 3 students come back from clinicals stating that IRF would not accept patients if they were able to walk over 150 feet. Students were told to alter notes or limit progress to meet this standard.Where does this come from? Thank you Bill Staples PT ----- Original Message ----- -- H. Staples PT, DHS, DPT, GCS, CEEAA Assistant Professor Krannert School of Physical Therapy University Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Im not saying what they are doing is right, but to me its also unethical what the insurances are doing. Just because a person walked a 150 ft does not mean they are ready to go home. As we all know there is more to it than just distance. Like how long did it take to walk it or how much help did they need or where they fatigued severely after. Some will discharge once you write 150 No matter what and that is wrong. The patient may still need help. What are we to do in this case? Geno PTA Owner Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid Re: PPS I have a question for the group if you work in acute rehab. I have had 3 students come back from clinicals stating that IRF would not accept patients if they were able to walk over 150 feet. Students were told to alter notes or limit progress to meet this standard.Where does this come from? Thank you Bill Staples PT ----- Original Message ----- -- H. Staples PT, DHS, DPT, GCS, CEEAA Assistant Professor Krannert School of Physical Therapy University Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 I am a director of a rehab unit. The 150 is a McKeeson (spelling?) acute criteria which most private insurance, especially Humana, have adopted. CMS has adopted for acute criteria but not IRF. Humana has used as hard and fast rule. So, from management of acute therapist we have educated to look more specifically quality of gait and environment (in other words, in acute the typically just walk down the hall and we don't look at home environment as much.). We use both as indicators to limit gain distance. > > Im not saying what they are doing is right, but to me its also unethical > what the insurances are doing. Just because a person walked a 150 ft does > not mean they are ready to go home. As we all know there is more to it than > just distance. Like how long did it take to walk it or how much help did > they need or where they fatigued severely after. Some will discharge once > you write 150 > No matter what and that is wrong. The patient may still need help. What are > we to do in this case? > > Geno PTA > Owner > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid > > Re: PPS > > > > > I have a question for the group if you work in acute rehab. I have had 3 > students come back from clinicals stating that IRF would not accept patients > if they were able to walk over 150 feet. Students were told to alter notes > or limit progress to meet this standard.Where does this come from? Thank you > > Bill Staples PT > > ----- Original Message ----- > > -- > > H. Staples PT, DHS, DPT, GCS, CEEAA > Assistant Professor > Krannert School of Physical Therapy > University > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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