Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 > I wish we had a TC option, but they are either sign or oral. IDEA '97 Final Regulations APPENDIX A TO PART 300-NOTICE OF INTERPRETATION http://www.ideapractices.org/regs/AppendxA.htm " In all cases, placement decisions must be individually determined on the basis of each child's abilities and needs, and not solely on factors such as category of disability, significance of disability, availability of special education and related services, configuration of the service delivery system, availability of space, or administrative convenience. Rather, each student's IEP forms the basis for the placement decision. " §300.551 http://www.ideapractices.org/regs/SubpartE.htm#sec300.551 " (a) Each public agency shall ensure that a continuum of alternative placements is available to meet the needs of children with disabilities for special education and related services. " If a TC option is appropriate for your child, they need to provide it. How are her language skills? If she's behind in those (and your note said that she had no language skills in December), and she picks things up easier in sign, it may be appropriate to have signing skills supported by the IEP, but also have the IEP transition her towards improving her oral skills. Kay kay@... Listen Up Web http://www.listen-up.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 > I wish we had a TC option, but they are either sign or oral. IDEA '97 Final Regulations APPENDIX A TO PART 300-NOTICE OF INTERPRETATION http://www.ideapractices.org/regs/AppendxA.htm " In all cases, placement decisions must be individually determined on the basis of each child's abilities and needs, and not solely on factors such as category of disability, significance of disability, availability of special education and related services, configuration of the service delivery system, availability of space, or administrative convenience. Rather, each student's IEP forms the basis for the placement decision. " §300.551 http://www.ideapractices.org/regs/SubpartE.htm#sec300.551 " (a) Each public agency shall ensure that a continuum of alternative placements is available to meet the needs of children with disabilities for special education and related services. " If a TC option is appropriate for your child, they need to provide it. How are her language skills? If she's behind in those (and your note said that she had no language skills in December), and she picks things up easier in sign, it may be appropriate to have signing skills supported by the IEP, but also have the IEP transition her towards improving her oral skills. Kay kay@... Listen Up Web http://www.listen-up.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 > I wish we had a TC option, but they are either sign or oral. IDEA '97 Final Regulations APPENDIX A TO PART 300-NOTICE OF INTERPRETATION http://www.ideapractices.org/regs/AppendxA.htm " In all cases, placement decisions must be individually determined on the basis of each child's abilities and needs, and not solely on factors such as category of disability, significance of disability, availability of special education and related services, configuration of the service delivery system, availability of space, or administrative convenience. Rather, each student's IEP forms the basis for the placement decision. " §300.551 http://www.ideapractices.org/regs/SubpartE.htm#sec300.551 " (a) Each public agency shall ensure that a continuum of alternative placements is available to meet the needs of children with disabilities for special education and related services. " If a TC option is appropriate for your child, they need to provide it. How are her language skills? If she's behind in those (and your note said that she had no language skills in December), and she picks things up easier in sign, it may be appropriate to have signing skills supported by the IEP, but also have the IEP transition her towards improving her oral skills. Kay kay@... Listen Up Web http://www.listen-up.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 I'm not as knowledgable as others on this list but I thought the school had to provide for YOUR means of communication, not what they provide??? My son gets A-V at school but we use TC at home, and the signing, for him, is very beneficial.It helps him pick up words and concepts much quicker. --- Vthress@... wrote: > I have an IEP meeting tomorrow concerning summer > school. Our daughter was adopted from Romania in > December. She had no language and we thought she > was deaf. However, she after tests, tubes, and > clearing up of ear infections we found she is > moderate to severe and about 25 decibels aides > (which we think is awesome). > > My question concerns voice versus speech. They keep > sending me notes asking me not to sign (I am an > interpreter), because it is hindering her speech. > We are trying not to, but she responds so quickly to > sign. She picked up sign so fast while she > struggles to get out any words. You have to use > your imagaination at this point to understand what > she is saying. She stills signs to get her point > across even when we do not respond until she tries > to say the word. Her words are limited to a dozen > or less while her signs I would guess 50. > > Her teacher is wonderful and very experienced. She > thinks andra can be completely oral. They do > not sign at all in her hearing impaired classroom. > I know you don't know my child, but from your > experience does the signing hold her back. > > I wish we had a TC option, but they are either sign > or oral. Any advice > would be appreciated. > > Vicki > ===== Our Family Web Page: http://www.johansenfamily.homestead.com ********************************************************** As of today 43 firefighters have died in the line of duty since Jan.1,2001. May they watch over those of us who continue to fight the dragon, and may they be waiting at the gates for those brothers and sisters that are also called home. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 I'm not as knowledgable as others on this list but I thought the school had to provide for YOUR means of communication, not what they provide??? My son gets A-V at school but we use TC at home, and the signing, for him, is very beneficial.It helps him pick up words and concepts much quicker. --- Vthress@... wrote: > I have an IEP meeting tomorrow concerning summer > school. Our daughter was adopted from Romania in > December. She had no language and we thought she > was deaf. However, she after tests, tubes, and > clearing up of ear infections we found she is > moderate to severe and about 25 decibels aides > (which we think is awesome). > > My question concerns voice versus speech. They keep > sending me notes asking me not to sign (I am an > interpreter), because it is hindering her speech. > We are trying not to, but she responds so quickly to > sign. She picked up sign so fast while she > struggles to get out any words. You have to use > your imagaination at this point to understand what > she is saying. She stills signs to get her point > across even when we do not respond until she tries > to say the word. Her words are limited to a dozen > or less while her signs I would guess 50. > > Her teacher is wonderful and very experienced. She > thinks andra can be completely oral. They do > not sign at all in her hearing impaired classroom. > I know you don't know my child, but from your > experience does the signing hold her back. > > I wish we had a TC option, but they are either sign > or oral. Any advice > would be appreciated. > > Vicki > ===== Our Family Web Page: http://www.johansenfamily.homestead.com ********************************************************** As of today 43 firefighters have died in the line of duty since Jan.1,2001. May they watch over those of us who continue to fight the dragon, and may they be waiting at the gates for those brothers and sisters that are also called home. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 I'm not as knowledgable as others on this list but I thought the school had to provide for YOUR means of communication, not what they provide??? My son gets A-V at school but we use TC at home, and the signing, for him, is very beneficial.It helps him pick up words and concepts much quicker. --- Vthress@... wrote: > I have an IEP meeting tomorrow concerning summer > school. Our daughter was adopted from Romania in > December. She had no language and we thought she > was deaf. However, she after tests, tubes, and > clearing up of ear infections we found she is > moderate to severe and about 25 decibels aides > (which we think is awesome). > > My question concerns voice versus speech. They keep > sending me notes asking me not to sign (I am an > interpreter), because it is hindering her speech. > We are trying not to, but she responds so quickly to > sign. She picked up sign so fast while she > struggles to get out any words. You have to use > your imagaination at this point to understand what > she is saying. She stills signs to get her point > across even when we do not respond until she tries > to say the word. Her words are limited to a dozen > or less while her signs I would guess 50. > > Her teacher is wonderful and very experienced. She > thinks andra can be completely oral. They do > not sign at all in her hearing impaired classroom. > I know you don't know my child, but from your > experience does the signing hold her back. > > I wish we had a TC option, but they are either sign > or oral. Any advice > would be appreciated. > > Vicki > ===== Our Family Web Page: http://www.johansenfamily.homestead.com ********************************************************** As of today 43 firefighters have died in the line of duty since Jan.1,2001. May they watch over those of us who continue to fight the dragon, and may they be waiting at the gates for those brothers and sisters that are also called home. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 Hi, My son is from Romania and my daughter is from Bulgaria. My daughter is hard of hearing also. How old is your daughter? How is signing hindering her speech? We started signing with my daughter when she had no language at age four. It was a great help. She has since decided to be oral but still uses sign at times for clarification. We rarely use sign at home. In my experience sign does not hold a child back. I felt it very important to get her exposed to language and that words had meaning and away from the grunting and pointing. If you decide you want TC the school must provide it. They cannot limit you to what they have available. Are there no deaf children in the hearing impaired classroom who use sign? Barb Her teacher is wonderful and very experienced. She thinks andra can be completely oral. They do not sign at all in her hearing impaired classroom. I know you don't know my child, but from your experience does the signing hold her back. I wish we had a TC option, but they are either sign or oral. Any advice would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 Hi, My son is from Romania and my daughter is from Bulgaria. My daughter is hard of hearing also. How old is your daughter? How is signing hindering her speech? We started signing with my daughter when she had no language at age four. It was a great help. She has since decided to be oral but still uses sign at times for clarification. We rarely use sign at home. In my experience sign does not hold a child back. I felt it very important to get her exposed to language and that words had meaning and away from the grunting and pointing. If you decide you want TC the school must provide it. They cannot limit you to what they have available. Are there no deaf children in the hearing impaired classroom who use sign? Barb Her teacher is wonderful and very experienced. She thinks andra can be completely oral. They do not sign at all in her hearing impaired classroom. I know you don't know my child, but from your experience does the signing hold her back. I wish we had a TC option, but they are either sign or oral. Any advice would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 Hi, My son is from Romania and my daughter is from Bulgaria. My daughter is hard of hearing also. How old is your daughter? How is signing hindering her speech? We started signing with my daughter when she had no language at age four. It was a great help. She has since decided to be oral but still uses sign at times for clarification. We rarely use sign at home. In my experience sign does not hold a child back. I felt it very important to get her exposed to language and that words had meaning and away from the grunting and pointing. If you decide you want TC the school must provide it. They cannot limit you to what they have available. Are there no deaf children in the hearing impaired classroom who use sign? Barb Her teacher is wonderful and very experienced. She thinks andra can be completely oral. They do not sign at all in her hearing impaired classroom. I know you don't know my child, but from your experience does the signing hold her back. I wish we had a TC option, but they are either sign or oral. Any advice would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 Our daughter was adopted at age 6 from an orphanage in Guatemala, where she had NO language. Absolutely none. When she came home, we signed and spoke, and she has learned language extremely fast (she is now 10). Now, if we did not sign, she would probably have more speech but we decided that language was a priority. She still likes to speak better than sign, but a personal choice for us was she needed language any way she could get it. If you can't hear it, then you need to see it. IEP TOMORROW > I have an IEP meeting tomorrow concerning summer school. Our daughter was adopted from Romania in December. She had no language and we thought she was deaf. However, she after tests, tubes, and clearing up of ear infections we found she is moderate to severe and about 25 decibels aides (which we think is awesome). > > My question concerns voice versus speech. They keep sending me notes asking me not to sign (I am an interpreter), because it is hindering her speech. We are trying not to, but she responds so quickly to sign. She picked up sign so fast while she struggles to get out any words. You have to use your imagaination at this point to understand what she is saying. She stills signs to get her point across even when we do not respond until she tries to say the word. Her words are limited to a dozen or less while her signs I would guess 50. > > Her teacher is wonderful and very experienced. She thinks andra can be completely oral. They do not sign at all in her hearing impaired classroom. I know you don't know my child, but from your experience does the signing hold her back. > > I wish we had a TC option, but they are either sign or oral. Any advice > would be appreciated. > > Vicki > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 Our daughter was adopted at age 6 from an orphanage in Guatemala, where she had NO language. Absolutely none. When she came home, we signed and spoke, and she has learned language extremely fast (she is now 10). Now, if we did not sign, she would probably have more speech but we decided that language was a priority. She still likes to speak better than sign, but a personal choice for us was she needed language any way she could get it. If you can't hear it, then you need to see it. IEP TOMORROW > I have an IEP meeting tomorrow concerning summer school. Our daughter was adopted from Romania in December. She had no language and we thought she was deaf. However, she after tests, tubes, and clearing up of ear infections we found she is moderate to severe and about 25 decibels aides (which we think is awesome). > > My question concerns voice versus speech. They keep sending me notes asking me not to sign (I am an interpreter), because it is hindering her speech. We are trying not to, but she responds so quickly to sign. She picked up sign so fast while she struggles to get out any words. You have to use your imagaination at this point to understand what she is saying. She stills signs to get her point across even when we do not respond until she tries to say the word. Her words are limited to a dozen or less while her signs I would guess 50. > > Her teacher is wonderful and very experienced. She thinks andra can be completely oral. They do not sign at all in her hearing impaired classroom. I know you don't know my child, but from your experience does the signing hold her back. > > I wish we had a TC option, but they are either sign or oral. Any advice > would be appreciated. > > Vicki > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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