Guest guest Posted November 16, 2002 Report Share Posted November 16, 2002 -, we used it for 4 months last winter (2 caps 3 times a day) and had some nasty looking bm's. I am not sure if it actually causes die off of yeast or if it just fills up space so the yeast cannot take hold but it definately helped with us. Patti -- In @y..., " Sbordone " <jsbordone@r...> wrote: > Hi I'm wondering if anyone can help my. My three and a half year old Pdd son's gastrointerologist told me to give him saccharomyces Boulardii to help with yeast issues ( he was on culturelle and probiogold at different times and neither worked for him). has taken a half dose two days in a row and today about two hours after I gave it to him, he was complaining of a stomach ache and he started looking pale. His stools were strange also. Has anyone had a problem with this? Any information would be GREATLY APPRECIATED! Thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2002 Report Share Posted November 16, 2002 Hi We are using it for the second time. Each time we definitely have die off symptoms and terrible stools. My son has also shown improvements on it. He is taking 1 capsule 2X/day. > > Hi I'm wondering if anyone can help my. My three and a half year > old Pdd son's gastrointerologist told me to give him saccharomyces > Boulardii to help with yeast issues ( he was on culturelle and > probiogold at different times and neither worked for him). has > taken a half dose two days in a row and today about two hours after I > gave it to him, he was complaining of a stomach ache and he started > looking pale. His stools were strange also. Has anyone had a problem > with this? Any information would be GREATLY APPRECIATED! Thanks > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2002 Report Share Posted November 16, 2002 My son has been taking one cap three times a day and we've had great success and more regulated BMs. Actually, I saw on another board that it can constipation. Since it is a friendly strain of yeast that fights the bad, I would assume that die-off is possible. Another thought would be that some kids may have a problem with the strain itself. Is his yeast severe? We did run into this type of problem (which was die-off) while he was on nystatin. Activated charcoal at night seemed to help absorb the released bacteria from the yeast... > Hi I'm wondering if anyone can help my. My three and a half year old Pdd son's gastrointerologist told me to give him saccharomyces Boulardii to help with yeast issues ( he was on culturelle and probiogold at different times and neither worked for him). has taken a half dose two days in a row and today about two hours after I gave it to him, he was complaining of a stomach ache and he started looking pale. His stools were strange also. Has anyone had a problem with this? Any information would be GREATLY APPRECIATED! Thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2002 Report Share Posted November 17, 2002 My 8yr old autistic son was on Sacc B for a little over a month. He's non verbal so I can never tell exactly what he's feeling. He did get a little irritible on it & also had foul bms. We've moved onto Nystatin now which is even worse. Michele In a message dated 11/16/02 7:20:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, jsbordone@... writes: << Hi I'm wondering if anyone can help my. My three and a half year old Pdd son's gastrointerologist told me to give him saccharomyces Boulardii to help with yeast issues ( he was on culturelle and probiogold at different times and neither worked for him). has taken a half dose two days in a row and today about two hours after I gave it to him, he was complaining of a stomach ache and he started looking pale. His stools were strange also. Has anyone had a problem with this? Any information would be GREATLY APPRECIATED! Thanks >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2002 Report Share Posted November 17, 2002 , Any time I give anti-fungals to my son, stools do change. I started to give sacc boulardii a month or two ago and it seemed to mess Jack up a bit. His oats test came back that he had high clostridia and I should use sacc boulardi, so I went back to it at a lower dose. I have been using sb w/ culturelle, and alternating gse, oil of oregano, lavendar oil and I have continued w/ chelation. Yeast seems to be getting better. He did have some die-off last week, not feeling well, very unfocused but this past Thursday he wrote his name on his own for the first time, he just turned 6. Last August I could not get him to pick up a crayon. I also came down stairs and he was using stencils to write out the alphabet. I would say this is an improvement. He is hyper again today because of day three of chelation. I have also started a pharmicutical(sp) of aloe. I think it may be helping. I hate treating yeast. nne -- In @y..., hugsfam5@c... wrote: > My 8yr old autistic son was on Sacc B for a little over a month. He's non > verbal so I can never tell exactly what he's feeling. He did get a little > irritible on it & also had foul bms. We've moved onto Nystatin now which is > even worse. > > Michele > > In a message dated 11/16/02 7:20:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jsbordone@r... writes: > > << Hi I'm wondering if anyone can help my. My three and a half year old Pdd > son's gastrointerologist told me to give him saccharomyces Boulardii to help > with yeast issues ( he was on culturelle and probiogold at different times > and neither worked for him). has taken a half dose two days in a row > and today about two hours after I gave it to him, he was complaining of a > stomach ache and he started looking pale. His stools were strange also. Has > anyone had a problem with this? Any information would be GREATLY APPRECIATED! > Thanks >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2002 Report Share Posted November 17, 2002 Hi nne and everyone , Thanks for writing back, my question for you is does this regression from treating yeast permanent? My son was doing reasonably well until I started saccharomyces boulardii. Today he really regressed he is tantruming all day and yelling. He doesn't seem to understand all that he did before and he grunts and groans a lot , I guess I'm just scared. Thanks for all the information, I have to go he is tantruming again, [ ] Re: Saccharomyces Boulardii , Any time I give anti-fungals to my son, stools do change. I started to give sacc boulardii a month or two ago and it seemed to mess Jack up a bit. His oats test came back that he had high clostridia and I should use sacc boulardi, so I went back to it at a lower dose. I have been using sb w/ culturelle, and alternating gse, oil of oregano, lavendar oil and I have continued w/ chelation. Yeast seems to be getting better. He did have some die-off last week, not feeling well, very unfocused but this past Thursday he wrote his name on his own for the first time, he just turned 6. Last August I could not get him to pick up a crayon. I also came down stairs and he was using stencils to write out the alphabet. I would say this is an improvement. He is hyper again today because of day three of chelation. I have also started a pharmicutical(sp) of aloe. I think it may be helping. I hate treating yeast. nne -- In @y..., hugsfam5@c... wrote: > My 8yr old autistic son was on Sacc B for a little over a month. He's non > verbal so I can never tell exactly what he's feeling. He did get a little > irritible on it & also had foul bms. We've moved onto Nystatin now which is > even worse. > > Michele > > In a message dated 11/16/02 7:20:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jsbordone@r... writes: > > << Hi I'm wondering if anyone can help my. My three and a half year old Pdd > son's gastrointerologist told me to give him saccharomyces Boulardii to help > with yeast issues ( he was on culturelle and probiogold at different times > and neither worked for him). has taken a half dose two days in a row > and today about two hours after I gave it to him, he was complaining of a > stomach ache and he started looking pale. His stools were strange also. Has > anyone had a problem with this? Any information would be GREATLY APPRECIATED! > Thanks >> ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2002 Report Share Posted November 17, 2002 -Die off can be pretty scarey. Your child will recover from it but you may need to reduce the dose you are giving if the die off behavior is too severe. If you do need to reduce the dose just start to gradually increase once your child has stabalized. Patti -- In @y..., " Sbordone " <jsbordone@r...> wrote: > Hi nne and everyone , Thanks for writing back, my question for you is does this regression from treating yeast permanent? My son was doing reasonably well until I started saccharomyces boulardii. Today he really regressed he is tantruming all day and yelling. He doesn't seem to understand all that he did before and he grunts and groans a lot , I guess I'm just scared. Thanks for all the information, I have to go he is tantruming again, > [ ] Re: Saccharomyces Boulardii > > > , > > Any time I give anti-fungals to my son, stools do change. I started > to give sacc boulardii a month or two ago and it seemed to mess Jack > up a bit. His oats test came back that he had high clostridia and I > should use sacc boulardi, so I went back to it at a lower dose. I > have been using sb w/ culturelle, and alternating gse, oil of > oregano, lavendar oil and I have continued w/ chelation. Yeast seems > to be getting better. He did have some die-off last week, not > feeling well, very unfocused but this past Thursday he wrote his name > on his own for the first time, he just turned 6. Last August I could > not get him to pick up a crayon. I also came down stairs and he was > using stencils to write out the alphabet. I would say this is an > improvement. He is hyper again today because of day three of > chelation. I have also started a pharmicutical(sp) of aloe. I think > it may be helping. I hate treating yeast. > > nne > > -- In @y..., hugsfam5@c... wrote: > > My 8yr old autistic son was on Sacc B for a little over a month. > He's non > > verbal so I can never tell exactly what he's feeling. He did get a > little > > irritible on it & also had foul bms. We've moved onto Nystatin now > which is > > even worse. > > > > Michele > > > > In a message dated 11/16/02 7:20:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > jsbordone@r... writes: > > > > << Hi I'm wondering if anyone can help my. My three and a half > year old Pdd > > son's gastrointerologist told me to give him saccharomyces > Boulardii to help > > with yeast issues ( he was on culturelle and probiogold at > different times > > and neither worked for him). has taken a half dose two days > in a row > > and today about two hours after I gave it to him, he was > complaining of a > > stomach ache and he started looking pale. His stools were strange > also. Has > > anyone had a problem with this? Any information would be GREATLY > APPRECIATED! > > Thanks >> > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2002 Report Share Posted November 17, 2002 , I think this is what has always scared me about treating yeast and clostridia because some people have stated it took a while to bring the child back to normal but Jack's regression only lasted a week or two. I do not think he is clear but it is much better. I always know when yeast is bad because he starts taking off his clothes again. He has been putting them back on so thinks are better. I think the culturelle is really helping Jack. We also do another acidophilos several time a day. nne > > My 8yr old autistic son was on Sacc B for a little over a month. > He's non > > verbal so I can never tell exactly what he's feeling. He did get a > little > > irritible on it & also had foul bms. We've moved onto Nystatin now > which is > > even worse. > > > > Michele > > > > In a message dated 11/16/02 7:20:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > jsbordone@r... writes: > > > > << Hi I'm wondering if anyone can help my. My three and a half > year old Pdd > > son's gastrointerologist told me to give him saccharomyces > Boulardii to help > > with yeast issues ( he was on culturelle and probiogold at > different times > > and neither worked for him). has taken a half dose two days > in a row > > and today about two hours after I gave it to him, he was > complaining of a > > stomach ache and he started looking pale. His stools were strange > also. Has > > anyone had a problem with this? Any information would be GREATLY > APPRECIATED! > > Thanks >> > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 If you really look at the studies done concerning fungemia and S. Boulardii the patients all had the same things in common either HIV or they got the infection through PICC line, catherter or through dialysis line. Getting a fungus infection is extremely common through a PICC line whether on S. Boulardii, some other Probiotics or no probiotic. Saccharomyces Boulardii is a sub-species of Saccharomyces Cerevisiae. S. Boulardii is NOT derived from Brewers yeast and it IS NOT related to Candida Albicans. It stops candida albicans among other bacteria from taking over. What can cause problems is taking MOS or FOS laced probiotics because you don't know what you are " feeding " in the gut when you take those. S. Boulardii works by digesting two different endotoxins when they get out of control in the gut. Everyone is free to do what they want, but not taking multiple strain probiotics while taking long term antibiotics is like playing Russian Roulette. One problem many people make is taking only acidolphilis only or taking unproven formulas. I suppose your dr may be different, but my LLMD terminates treatment if the patient is not compliment on taking a high grade multi strain probiotics (plus milk thistle, DHA and L-Glutathione). > > I have done some research on Saccharomyces boulardii. I bought a > bottle which also included MOS. I was conserned about MOS. MOS > (Mannon Oligo Saccharomyces) called Saccharymyoces cerevisiae is > baker's or brewer's yeast. It is genetically tractable yeast which is > closely related to Candida albicans. While it is a common colonizer > of mucosal surfaces and considered to be nonpathogenic > forimmunocompetent hosts, Saccharomyces may cause infections > partucularly in immunocompromised patients. The genus Saccharomyces > includes several species, the most wel-known one being Saccharomyces > cervisiae. SACCHAROMYCES BOULARDII which is now used in treatment of > intestinal disorders, such as antibiotic-associated diarrhea is > considered to be SYNONYM for a particular strain of Saccharomyces > cervisiae. Overload during Saccharomyces boulardii therapy has also > been reported to lead to fungemia, particularly in critically-ill > patients. Major risk factors for developng infections in > immunosupressed patients due to Saccharomyces are Pneumonia, > endocarditis, liver absess, fungemia, and sepsis. > Based on this info I decided to stay away from these strains, > although I took it for 5 days. Anyone's thoughts are appreciated. > Thank you -- Lida > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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