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It might be trimalleolar fracture; I usually don't hear it pronounced like

it looks, more of a " tri-ma-lay-lor " than tri-mall-e-o-lar. Hope this

helps!

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Hi all ... hope your day is going well ....

We've taken an x-ray of the right ankle. This shows good healing of an old

s/l_ tribulelar fracture of the ankle

thanks....... Jackie

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trimalleolar?

Pattie

jacqueline urton wrote:

> Hi all ... hope your day is going well ....

>

> We’ve taken an x-ray of the right ankle. This shows good healing of an old

> s/l_ tribulelar fracture of the ankle

>

> thanks....... Jackie

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check out trabecular

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I believe she is looking for trabecular.

-- term help 2

Hi all ... hope your day is going well ....

We've taken an x-ray of the right ankle. This shows good healing of an old

s/l_ tribulelar fracture of the ankle

thanks....... Jackie

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Okay, this oldie needs to ask some questions, because it looks like some of you

" youngsters " are trying to teach us something. I have never heard the word

trabecular used in terms of a fracture, as a matter of fact I have never heard

trabecula or any of its forms used in orthopedics. Could one of you please

explain to me what a trabecular fracture is. I just love learning new stuff and

would like to understand. Thanks for the help, Margaret

>>> " Jordan " 09/11/02 02:52PM >>>

check out trabecular

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Hi there! I haven't heard of it either. The definition of trabecula per

Taber's is this:

1. A cord of tissue that serves as a supporting structure by forming a

septum that extends into an organ from its wall or capsule.

2. The network of osseous tissue that makes up the cancellous structure of a

bone.

I am by no means an orthopod, but I transcribe for a couple. Anything new I

learn is definitely a bonus! )

Re: term help 2

Okay, this oldie needs to ask some questions, because it looks like some of

you " youngsters " are trying to teach us something. I have never heard the

word trabecular used in terms of a fracture, as a matter of fact I have

never heard trabecula or any of its forms used in orthopedics. Could one of

you please explain to me what a trabecular fracture is. I just love

learning new stuff and would like to understand. Thanks for the help,

Margaret

>>> " Jordan " 09/11/02 02:52PM >>>

check out trabecular

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, Thanks, that's the kind of explanation I was hoping for. Someone who has

actually heard it used and in what context, so I will know in the future if I

ever hear it. So, when they say trabecular fracture, they are actually

referring to a fracture at the end of a long bone. Thanks very much, I learned

something new today, Margaret

>>> " njburk@... " 09/11/02 03:21PM >>>

Bone facts

There are two types of bone. Cortical (hard, compact) bone is found in the

shaft of the long bones. Trabecular (spongy, cancellous) bone is found at

the end of the long bones.

This was the best I could do. I used to do orthopedic transcription, and

often the docs referred to it as a trabecular fracture, when actually it was

referring to the type of bone, not the bone itself.

-- Re: term help 2

Okay, this oldie needs to ask some questions, because it looks like some of

you " youngsters " are trying to teach us something. I have never heard the

word trabecular used in terms of a fracture, as a matter of fact I have

never heard trabecula or any of its forms used in orthopedics. Could one of

you please explain to me what a trabecular fracture is. I just love

learning new stuff and would like to understand. Thanks for the help,

Margaret

>>> " Jordan " 09/11/02 02:52PM >>>

check out trabecular

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Okay, I'm lousy at ortho but hopefully I can explain this correctly.

Trabecular refers to bone that is, well, honeycombed for lack of a better

term. I've heard " trabecular bone fracture " many times before (usually in

the context of them being tough to repair because plates and screws are

needed).

HOWEVER...there isn't much in the ankle, I was working on the s/l alone. I

will cheerfully eat my words and suggest " talonavicular " instead. It's a

joint, not a bone, but a prime facture site in the ankle.

http://www.cid.ch/TEACH/AB/AB16.html

(please pass the salt)

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[Guest guest]

, I am really glad this discussion came up. As I said, I am learning

something new today. I guess my docs just have always referred to the actual

bone that was fractured or the type of fracture such as Salter fracture. I am

always interested in finding out something new and do believe I now have a

better understanding of what a trabecular fracture would be. Thanks, Margaret

PS I did hear back from the person who sent the original question and she said

that upon listening to it after the suggestions it did turn out to be a

trimalleolar fracture. MG

>>> " Jordan " 09/11/02 03:24PM >>>

Okay, I'm lousy at ortho but hopefully I can explain this correctly.

Trabecular refers to bone that is, well, honeycombed for lack of a better

term. I've heard " trabecular bone fracture " many times before (usually in

the context of them being tough to repair because plates and screws are

needed).

HOWEVER...there isn't much in the ankle, I was working on the s/l alone. I

will cheerfully eat my words and suggest " talonavicular " instead. It's a

joint, not a bone, but a prime facture site in the ankle.

http://www.cid.ch/TEACH/AB/AB16.html

(please pass the salt)

J

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I found the following:

s people age, their bones become more brittle and susceptible to breaks

or fractures--a state that can be exacerbated by diseases that deteriorate bone

tissue, such as osteoporosis. In this weakened state compressive stress injuries

can seriously damage trabecular bone, the " spongy " type of bone found in the

spine, hips, knees, and other joints. Designing drugs or other therapies to

strengthen this tissue and determining the most effective strategies for early

diagnosis and prevention, all require a detailed understanding of the structure

of trabecular bone, its relationship to a bone's overall strength, and the way

it reacts to compression.

Here is the link:

http://www.npaci.edu/envision/v15.3/keaveny.html

Meg

(A new MT student myself)

Re: term help 2

Okay, this oldie needs to ask some questions, because it looks like some of

you " youngsters " are trying to teach us something. I have never heard the word

trabecular used in terms of a fracture, as a matter of fact I have never heard

trabecula or any of its forms used in orthopedics. Could one of you please

explain to me what a trabecular fracture is. I just love learning new stuff and

would like to understand. Thanks for the help, Margaret

>>> " Jordan " 09/11/02 02:52PM >>>

check out trabecular

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I will say, in my defense <G>, that I've heard docs come up with all sorts

of strange things.

I realized where I'd heard it, which sorta made sense, especially in

relation to 's post. My fiance is a nuclear med tech. One of the common

studies they do is a bone scan for avascular necrosis. This happens often

within (you guessed it) trabecular bone, primarily within the hip. You get a

hairline hip fracture, it goes relatively unnoticed, but the bone tissue

begins to die until an infection starts cooking. It doesn't show well on

x-ray, but downright glows on a bone scan. (I've been lucky enough to get a

few guided tours of nuclear med, and the radiology MT is a friend of mine,

too.)

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[Guest guest]

That might be gastrocs, short or slang in the plural form for gastrocnemius

muscles.

Dawn C.

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IC, Ortho - 1 year

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term help 2

He does a flexible pes planus. But there is no tenderness over the posterior

tibial tendon. He has good subtalar motion. Ankle motion appears full. There

is no spasticity to his s/l gastroxs

thanks, jackie

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Probably gastrocs. If you can find a list of muscles somewhere, there's

gastrocnemius, gastrocsoleus.. that's the best I can remember off the top of my

head.

Jan

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term help 2

He does a flexible pes planus. But there is no tenderness over the posterior

tibial tendon. He has good subtalar motion. Ankle motion appears full. There

is no spasticity to his s/l gastroxs

thanks, jackie

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