Guest guest Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Drink what you want, your of age. I was thinking pina coladas because that damn song, like nada, is terminally irritating. But if you re going for the bourbon, I got to go for the on Irish Whiskey. Doug > > > > > > > > > > I am on another forum with women who apparently had happy > > childhoods > > > > > and ideal moms. > > > > > One time recently I mentioned some of the difficulty I am facing > > as my > > > > > nada's dementia worsens and she pulls more stunts and has moved > > into a > > > > > nursing home leaving me to deal with all the legalities and > > financial > > > > > aspects of this. > > > > > One of the women told me to just love her, yada yada. > > > > > Anyhoo, the following came into my inbox this morning and I just > > had > > > > > to share it. > > > > > It gives me the creeps! And I see it as a perfect example of why > > it is > > > > > so difficult to explain to normals about the trouble you have with > > > > > your parent. > > > > > Here it is: > > > > > > > > > > Your Mother is Always with You > > > > > She's the whisper of the leaves as you walk down the street. > > > > > She's the smell of bleach in your freshly laundered socks. > > > > > She's the cool hand on your brow when you're not well. > > > > > Your mother lives inside your laughter, > > > > > She's crystallized in every teardrop... > > > > > She's the place you come from, your first home... > > > > > She's the map you follow with every step you take. > > > > > She's your first love and your first heartbreak... > > > > > And nothing can seperate you. > > > > > Not time, not space, not even death will ever seperate you from > > your > > > > > mother. > > > > > You carry her inside of you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my blueberry. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Perfect--love it! let me dust off my vocal chords: " ...I'm not much into health food... " " > > > > > > > > I am on another forum with women who apparently had happy > childhoods > > > > and ideal moms. > > > > One time recently I mentioned some of the difficulty I am facing > as my > > > > nada's dementia worsens and she pulls more stunts and has moved > into a > > > > nursing home leaving me to deal with all the legalities and > financial > > > > aspects of this. > > > > One of the women told me to just love her, yada yada. > > > > Anyhoo, the following came into my inbox this morning and I just > had > > > > to share it. > > > > It gives me the creeps! And I see it as a perfect example of why > it is > > > > so difficult to explain to normals about the trouble you have with > > > > your parent. > > > > Here it is: > > > > > > > > Your Mother is Always with You > > > > She's the whisper of the leaves as you walk down the street. > > > > She's the smell of bleach in your freshly laundered socks. > > > > She's the cool hand on your brow when you're not well. > > > > Your mother lives inside your laughter, > > > > She's crystallized in every teardrop... > > > > She's the place you come from, your first home... > > > > She's the map you follow with every step you take. > > > > She's your first love and your first heartbreak... > > > > And nothing can seperate you. > > > > Not time, not space, not even death will ever seperate you from > your > > > > mother. > > > > You carry her inside of you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my blueberry. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 That poem makes me sad. I wish I had a mother I could say those things about. In a message dated 5/5/2010 7:10:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, darkalleye@... writes: I am on another forum with women who apparently had happy childhoods and ideal moms. One time recently I mentioned some of the difficulty I am facing as my nada's dementia worsens and she pulls more stunts and has moved into a nursing home leaving me to deal with all the legalities and financial aspects of this. One of the women told me to just love her, yada yada. Anyhoo, the following came into my inbox this morning and I just had to share it. It gives me the creeps! And I see it as a perfect example of why it is so difficult to explain to normals about the trouble you have with your parent. Here it is: Your Mother is Always with You She's the whisper of the leaves as you walk down the street. She's the smell of bleach in your freshly laundered socks. She's the cool hand on your brow when you're not well. Your mother lives inside your laughter, She's crystallized in every teardrop... She's the place you come from, your first home... She's the map you follow with every step you take. She's your first love and your first heartbreak..S And nothing can seperate you. Not time, not space, not even death will ever seperate you from your mother. You carry her inside of you. Sent from my blueberry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 I think its interesting how we all had different reactions. Some laughed, some got angry, some found it crazy...I found it sad. I dunno...just thought that was interesting. One common theme, though, not something we experienced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 My eyes are rolling into my head! I just cannot relate to that kind of stuff. This one, in particular, especially the last 2 lines of it, make mothers some kind of Christ figure. I love that we can talk to each other about our issues, because truly, no one else understands. Either they are " normal, " or their relationships with their mothers are/were in just as bad shape but they don't want to admit it...or are so enmeshed they're not aware of it. I find that poem sad. I can't elevate anyone I know to that kind of weird idol status. It's kind of...sick. > > I am on another forum with women who apparently had happy childhoods > and ideal moms. > One time recently I mentioned some of the difficulty I am facing as my > nada's dementia worsens and she pulls more stunts and has moved into a > nursing home leaving me to deal with all the legalities and financial > aspects of this. > One of the women told me to just love her, yada yada. > Anyhoo, the following came into my inbox this morning and I just had > to share it. > It gives me the creeps! And I see it as a perfect example of why it is > so difficult to explain to normals about the trouble you have with > your parent. > Here it is: > > Your Mother is Always with You > She's the whisper of the leaves as you walk down the street. > She's the smell of bleach in your freshly laundered socks. > She's the cool hand on your brow when you're not well. > Your mother lives inside your laughter, > She's crystallized in every teardrop... > She's the place you come from, your first home... > She's the map you follow with every step you take. > She's your first love and your first heartbreak... > And nothing can seperate you. > Not time, not space, not even death will ever seperate you from your > mother. > You carry her inside of you. > > > Sent from my blueberry. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Lynette and : BRAVISSIMO!!! LMAO, Fiona > > ,I fully agree this is a perfect example of how difficult it would be to explain what a nada is as opposed to a mother.It would give me the creeps,too...as a reminder of the disconnect between what it all should have been/could have been...and isn't/wasn't... > > Maybe we could add our own parentheses to Your Mother is Always with You as a KO group therapy exercise? Like,as bitter or honest or as poignant as we wanna be--no holds barred putting our *truth* to this...I hope you don't mind the imposition--personally I can't resist..it's too much for me to let those lines stand as they are...a la " thank you for sharing but I just need to say " ... > > What would be your corrective parentheses? Here are mine: > > > > > Your Mother is Always with You (as an elusive image that never takes on real maternal form) > > She's the whisper of the leaves as you walk down the street.(and the echo of traumatic memories I'd sooner forget) > > She's the smell of bleach in your freshly laundered socks.(which reminds me of her " having to do all the housework " rages) > > She's the cool hand on your brow when you're not well.(in my imagination: she never tended to me when I was sick) > > Your mother lives inside your laughter,(often,gallows humor) > > She's crystallized in every teardrop...(the few precious tears I manage to shed since she beat the ability to cry out of me) > > She's the place you come from, your first home...(a place I am still trying to transcend,to find a healthier place to be in) > > She's the map you follow with every step you take.(which has made me a mere babe in the woods many times,as lost as Hansel and Gretel) > > She's your first love and your first heartbreak...(a heartbreak that perpetuates) > > And nothing can seperate you.(NC *does* help) > > Not time, not space, not even death will ever seperate you from your > > mother.(actually,I intend for my NC to apply in the afterlife as well) > > You carry her inside of you.(to my own detriment,but as I exorcise her from my being the being parentified by her diminishes and diminishes: I do not have to carry her like a baby,a child--I need not be " pregnant " with nada...nor do I need to listen to her tapes or voice in my own head...Striving to just put her down...) > > So said this KO...Thanks for posting this,. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 oh, me too !! Jackie wow...creepy isn't a strong enough word...this poem is so true...for the norm who sent it found it endearing and close to the heart...i read it and feel like i'm goin to have nightmares tonight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 oh, this makes it much easie to read !! the REAL meaning behind the words LOL good job !! Jackie The KO's reality: Your Mother is Always with You (despite the long standing restraining order) She's the whisper of the leaves as you walk down the street. (as she's hiding in the shrubbery) She's the smell of bleach in your freshly laundered socks. (that she's cut to pieces because you didn't appreciate HER for the birthday gift she gave you) She's the cool hand on your brow when you're not well. (and the residual sting as the blood rushes back to your face following the slap for " faking it to ruin HER day " ) Your mother lives inside your laughter, (brought on by the Prozac countless therapists tried to give YOU because they didn't believe you....) She's crystallized in every teardrop... (and would LOVE to be made into a human diamond upon her death to hang from your neck...forever) She's the place you come from, your first home... (that psych ward in training if you don't get out of there) She's the map you follow with every step you take. (while praying someone eats the breadcrumbs she's put down so she can't her way back to your house) She's your first love and your first heartbreak... (and, damnit, no one will EVER love you as much as her ~ she'll make sure of that!) And nothing can seperate you. (see human diamond tip from above) Not time, not space, not even death will ever seperate you from your mother. (cause Lord knows you've tried!) You carry her inside of you. (like excrement.) Lynnette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Hi , I hear that it makes you sad. I think that what my main response of slight repulsion to that poem is that it is so *idealized* and fake. That no one has that kind of relationship and if they do, it sounds enmeshed (like someone mentioned). I remember feeling sad looking at mothers day and fathers day cards feeling the same as you. Then it sunk into me over the years that many people have bad or confusing family relationships (I did a lot of work with women who came to events to help them gain their inner strength after going through it). I still feel sad; a lot. Probably more about my dad because he is dead and I was not able to say the things to him I wanted to or hear anything I wanted to (he could not talk very well when he was dying). The last thing he did that I have to hold onto is that when we were laying on his bed, watching a black and white war movie (with Kirk s....very sad tragic movie) ; he he grasped my ankle (my knees were bent so has to sort of support his body) and he left his hand there even after he fell asleep. That gesture made me know that he loved me, if most of the other things did not. So now, like I said, I pick out blank cards for my mom and right my own thing. I even wrote her a nice letter last mother's day. My sister too (I must have been down there to visit). I think that after my dad and sister died so close to each other, I sort of burnt through this idealization. It doesn't make me feel *better* but makes me feel sort of free. take care ~patricia Re: Re: I find this creepy I think its interesting how we all had different reactions. Some laughed, some got angry, some found it crazy...I found it sad. I dunno...just thought that was interesting. One common theme, though, not something we experienced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 I absolutely agree, ! > > > > > > > > > > I am on another forum with women who apparently had happy childhoods > > > > > and ideal moms. > > > > > One time recently I mentioned some of the difficulty I am facing as my > > > > > nada's dementia worsens and she pulls more stunts and has moved into a > > > > > nursing home leaving me to deal with all the legalities and financial > > > > > aspects of this. > > > > > One of the women told me to just love her, yada yada. > > > > > Anyhoo, the following came into my inbox this morning and I just had > > > > > to share it. > > > > > It gives me the creeps! And I see it as a perfect example of why it is > > > > > so difficult to explain to normals about the trouble you have with > > > > > your parent. > > > > > Here it is: > > > > > > > > > > Your Mother is Always with You > > > > > She's the whisper of the leaves as you walk down the street. > > > > > She's the smell of bleach in your freshly laundered socks. > > > > > She's the cool hand on your brow when you're not well. > > > > > Your mother lives inside your laughter, > > > > > She's crystallized in every teardrop... > > > > > She's the place you come from, your first home... > > > > > She's the map you follow with every step you take. > > > > > She's your first love and your first heartbreak... > > > > > And nothing can seperate you. > > > > > Not time, not space, not even death will ever seperate you from your > > > > > mother. > > > > > You carry her inside of you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my blueberry. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 How about that Lennon song about his Mother, and his Father. I used to listen to that over and over and just cry...in my therapy days when i was mostly dealing with this. ~patricia Re: Re: I find this creepy oh, this makes it much easie to read !! the REAL meaning behind the words LOL good job !! Jackie The KO's reality: Your Mother is Always with You (despite the long standing restraining order) She's the whisper of the leaves as you walk down the street. (as she's hiding in the shrubbery) She's the smell of bleach in your freshly laundered socks. (that she's cut to pieces because you didn't appreciate HER for the birthday gift she gave you) She's the cool hand on your brow when you're not well. (and the residual sting as the blood rushes back to your face following the slap for " faking it to ruin HER day " ) Your mother lives inside your laughter, (brought on by the Prozac countless therapists tried to give YOU because they didn't believe you....) She's crystallized in every teardrop... (and would LOVE to be made into a human diamond upon her death to hang from your neck...forever) She's the place you come from, your first home... (that psych ward in training if you don't get out of there) She's the map you follow with every step you take. (while praying someone eats the breadcrumbs she's put down so she can't her way back to your house) She's your first love and your first heartbreak... (and, damnit, no one will EVER love you as much as her ~ she'll make sure of that!) And nothing can seperate you. (see human diamond tip from above) Not time, not space, not even death will ever seperate you from your mother. (cause Lord knows you've tried!) You carry her inside of you. (like excrement.) Lynnette ------------------------------------ Problems? Ask our friendly List Manager for help at @.... SEND HER ANY POSTS THAT CONCERN YOU; DO NOT Respond ON THE GROUP. To order the KO bible " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " call 888-35-SHELL () for your copy. We also refer to " Understanding the Borderline Mother " (Lawson) and " Surviving the Borderline Parent, " (Roth) which you can find at any bookstore. Welcome to the WTO community! From Randi Kreger, Owner BPDCentral, WTO Online Community and author SWOE and the SWOE Workbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 (Oh weird...I just heard this song on the radio!) Re: Re: I find this creepy oh, this makes it much easie to read !! the REAL meaning behind the words LOL good job !! Jackie The KO's reality: Your Mother is Always with You (despite the long standing restraining order) She's the whisper of the leaves as you walk down the street. (as she's hiding in the shrubbery) She's the smell of bleach in your freshly laundered socks. (that she's cut to pieces because you didn't appreciate HER for the birthday gift she gave you) She's the cool hand on your brow when you're not well. (and the residual sting as the blood rushes back to your face following the slap for " faking it to ruin HER day " ) Your mother lives inside your laughter, (brought on by the Prozac countless therapists tried to give YOU because they didn't believe you....) She's crystallized in every teardrop... (and would LOVE to be made into a human diamond upon her death to hang from your neck...forever) She's the place you come from, your first home... (that psych ward in training if you don't get out of there) She's the map you follow with every step you take. (while praying someone eats the breadcrumbs she's put down so she can't her way back to your house) She's your first love and your first heartbreak... (and, damnit, no one will EVER love you as much as her ~ she'll make sure of that!) And nothing can seperate you. (see human diamond tip from above) Not time, not space, not even death will ever seperate you from your mother. (cause Lord knows you've tried!) You carry her inside of you. (like excrement.) Lynnette ------------------------------------ Problems? Ask our friendly List Manager for help at @.... SEND HER ANY POSTS THAT CONCERN YOU; DO NOT Respond ON THE GROUP. To order the KO bible " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " call 888-35-SHELL () for your copy. We also refer to " Understanding the Borderline Mother " (Lawson) and " Surviving the Borderline Parent, " (Roth) which you can find at any bookstore. Welcome to the WTO community! From Randi Kreger, Owner BPDCentral, WTO Online Community and author SWOE and the SWOE Workbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 I too find the different responses to the Motherhood poem interesting, and I LOVE all the parenthetical " translations " of each line of the poem, each one is just hysterically funny, or poignant, and all too true. Bravo to all the " translators " ! To me, it does come across as excessive/extreme, what I've heard referred to as " purple prose " , such as what a smitten fan would write about his or her favorite movie star or rock musician. And yes, I get the impression of a quasi-sexual / quasi-religious kind of adulation; rather disturbing in relation to one's mother, I agree. So... its rather like what a nada would write about her idealized, narcissistic concept of the self-sacrifice and undying devotion she feels she has shown as a mother; how appropriately out of touch with reality that is! How nada-esque! -Annie > > I think its interesting how we all had different reactions. Some laughed, > some got angry, some found it crazy...I found it sad. I dunno...just thought > that was interesting. > One common theme, though, not something we experienced. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 I'm very good at " decoding " ... especially with my trusty spy ring! Lynnette > > oh, this makes it much easie to read !! the REAL meaning behind the words > LOL good job !! > > > Jackie > > > > > The KO's reality: > > Your Mother is Always with You > (despite the long standing restraining order) > > She's the whisper of the leaves as you walk down the street. > (as she's hiding in the shrubbery) > > She's the smell of bleach in your freshly laundered socks. > (that she's cut to pieces because you didn't appreciate HER for the birthday > gift she gave you) > > She's the cool hand on your brow when you're not well. > (and the residual sting as the blood rushes back to your face following the > slap for " faking it to ruin HER day " ) > > Your mother lives inside your laughter, > (brought on by the Prozac countless therapists tried to give YOU because > they didn't believe you....) > > She's crystallized in every teardrop... > (and would LOVE to be made into a human diamond upon her death to hang from > your neck...forever) > > She's the place you come from, your first home... > (that psych ward in training if you don't get out of there) > > She's the map you follow with every step you take. > (while praying someone eats the breadcrumbs she's put down so she can't her > way back to your house) > > She's your first love and your first heartbreak... > (and, damnit, no one will EVER love you as much as her ~ she'll make sure of > that!) > > And nothing can seperate you. > (see human diamond tip from above) > > Not time, not space, not even death will ever seperate you from your > mother. > (cause Lord knows you've tried!) > > You carry her inside of you. > (like excrement.) > > Lynnette > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 I'm not a Beatles fan, so I dont recall that song... Jackie How about that Lennon song about his Mother, and his Father. I used to listen to that over and over and just cry...in my therapy days when i was mostly dealing with this. ~patricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Hi Jackie There are the lyrics; and he sings it with a terrible sort of cry in his voice. You could probably find it on YouTube if you were interested. ~patricia Mother, you had me, but I never had you I wanted you, you didn't want me So I, I just got to tell you Goodbye, goodbye Father, you left me, but I never left you I needed you, you didn't need me So I, I just got to tell you Goodbye, goodbye Children, don't do what I have done I couldn't walk and I tried to run So I, I just got to tell you Goodbye, goodbye Mama don't go Daddy come home (repeat 9 more times) Re: Re: I find this creepy I'm not a Beatles fan, so I dont recall that song... Jackie How about that Lennon song about his Mother, and his Father. I used to listen to that over and over and just cry...in my therapy days when i was mostly dealing with this. ~patricia ------------------------------------ Problems? Ask our friendly List Manager for help at @.... SEND HER ANY POSTS THAT CONCERN YOU; DO NOT Respond ON THE GROUP. To order the KO bible " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " call 888-35-SHELL () for your copy. We also refer to " Understanding the Borderline Mother " (Lawson) and " Surviving the Borderline Parent, " (Roth) which you can find at any bookstore. Welcome to the WTO community! From Randi Kreger, Owner BPDCentral, WTO Online Community and author SWOE and the SWOE Workbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Oh this just breaks my heart because of my son. His NBP father has abandoned him. And he won't deal with it. Subject: Re: Re: I find this creepy To: WTOAdultChildren1 Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 3:12 PM  Hi Jackie There are the lyrics; and he sings it with a terrible sort of cry in his voice. You could probably find it on YouTube if you were interested. ~patricia Mother, you had me, but I never had you I wanted you, you didn't want me So I, I just got to tell you Goodbye, goodbye Father, you left me, but I never left you I needed you, you didn't need me So I, I just got to tell you Goodbye, goodbye Children, don't do what I have done I couldn't walk and I tried to run So I, I just got to tell you Goodbye, goodbye Mama don't go Daddy come home (repeat 9 more times) Re: Re: I find this creepy I'm not a Beatles fan, so I dont recall that song... Jackie How about that Lennon song about his Mother, and his Father. I used to listen to that over and over and just cry...in my therapy days when i was mostly dealing with this. ~patricia ------------ --------- --------- ------ Problems? Ask our friendly List Manager for help at BPDCentral (DOT) com. SEND HER ANY POSTS THAT CONCERN YOU; DO NOT Respond ON THE GROUP. To order the KO bible " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " call 888-35-SHELL () for your copy. We also refer to " Understanding the Borderline Mother " (Lawson) and " Surviving the Borderline Parent, " (Roth) which you can find at any bookstore. Welcome to the WTO community! From Randi Kreger, Owner BPDCentral, WTO Online Community and author SWOE and the SWOE Workbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 what a touching, sad song...thanks Jackie Hi Jackie There are the lyrics; and he sings it with a terrible sort of cry in his voice. You could probably find it on YouTube if you were interested. ~patricia Mother, you had me, but I never had you I wanted you, you didn't want me So I, I just got to tell you Goodbye, goodbye Father, you left me, but I never left you I needed you, you didn't need me So I, I just got to tell you Goodbye, goodbye Children, don't do what I have done I couldn't walk and I tried to run So I, I just got to tell you Goodbye, goodbye Mama don't go Daddy come home (repeat 9 more times) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Did you listen to it Jackie? It made me cry a lot but I think it was good, like a purging. I'm not sure Lennon was the best parent at least to his oldest son (from what I hear). But he articulated it pretty well in this. ~patricia Re: Re: I find this creepy what a touching, sad song...thanks Jackie Hi Jackie There are the lyrics; and he sings it with a terrible sort of cry in his voice. You could probably find it on YouTube if you were interested. ~patricia Mother, you had me, but I never had you I wanted you, you didn't want me So I, I just got to tell you Goodbye, goodbye Father, you left me, but I never left you I needed you, you didn't need me So I, I just got to tell you Goodbye, goodbye Children, don't do what I have done I couldn't walk and I tried to run So I, I just got to tell you Goodbye, goodbye Mama don't go Daddy come home (repeat 9 more times) ------------------------------------ Problems? Ask our friendly List Manager for help at @.... SEND HER ANY POSTS THAT CONCERN YOU; DO NOT Respond ON THE GROUP. To order the KO bible " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " call 888-35-SHELL () for your copy. We also refer to " Understanding the Borderline Mother " (Lawson) and " Surviving the Borderline Parent, " (Roth) which you can find at any bookstore. Welcome to the WTO community! From Randi Kreger, Owner BPDCentral, WTO Online Community and author SWOE and the SWOE Workbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 not yet, I just read the lyrics, and they are very touching and sad.. Jackie Did you listen to it Jackie? It made me cry a lot but I think it was good, like a purging. I'm not sure Lennon was the best parent at least to his oldest son (from what I hear). But he articulated it pretty well in this. ~patricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Interjecting here...Thanks for sharing those lyrics,.I don't know this song--it sounds like he wrote it some time *after* he wrote from the Beatles White Album,which is a song that totally idealizes his mother (a song I still like,even after discovering who he wrote it for--it's especially poignant that he says in that song: Half of what I say is meaningless,but I say it just to reach you,...the words of a child really...) I had a neighbor a few years back who played some Lennon album every single Saturday night without fail--blasting it--from about eight in the evening until just after midnight.It was whichever one has Power To The People on it (which was fun,like he was trying to make a statement to the entire neighborhood every weekend) but the song you shared I don't know and will have to look it up.I can relate to what he's saying here... > > Hi Jackie > There are the lyrics; and he sings it with a terrible sort of cry > in his voice. You could probably find it on YouTube if you were interested. > ~patricia > > Mother, you had me, but I never had you > I wanted you, you didn't want me > So I, I just got to tell you > Goodbye, goodbye > > Father, you left me, but I never left you > I needed you, you didn't need me > So I, I just got to tell you > Goodbye, goodbye > > Children, don't do what I have done > I couldn't walk and I tried to run > So I, I just got to tell you > Goodbye, goodbye > > Mama don't go > Daddy come home > (repeat 9 more times) > > Re: Re: I find this creepy > > > I'm not a Beatles fan, so I dont recall that song... > > Jackie > > > > How about that Lennon song about his Mother, and his Father. > I used to listen to that over and over and just cry...in my therapy days > when i was mostly dealing with this. > ~patricia > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Problems? Ask our friendly List Manager for help at @... SEND HER ANY POSTS THAT CONCERN YOU; DO NOT Respond ON THE GROUP. > > To order the KO bible " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " call 888-35-SHELL () for your copy. We also refer to " Understanding the Borderline Mother " (Lawson) and " Surviving the Borderline Parent, " (Roth) which you can find at any bookstore. Welcome to the WTO community! > > From Randi Kreger, Owner BPDCentral, WTO Online Community and author SWOE and the SWOE Workbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 I'm sort of surprised this song hasn't been heard more widespread...but I think it is on that album hmmm...which one; (just looked up on Wikipedia) Shaved Fish with Ono. I think the Wikipedia page said he wrote three songs to his mother including and Mother and My Mummy's Dead. It said he was doing Primal Therapy (remember the 70's?) . Anyway...it's a good song for getting into that " primal " feeling... ~patricia Re: Re: I find this creepy > > > I'm not a Beatles fan, so I dont recall that song... > > Jackie > > > > How about that Lennon song about his Mother, and his Father. > I used to listen to that over and over and just cry...in my therapy days > when i was mostly dealing with this. > ~patricia > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Problems? Ask our friendly List Manager for help at @... SEND HER ANY POSTS THAT CONCERN YOU; DO NOT Respond ON THE GROUP. > > To order the KO bible " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " call 888-35-SHELL () for your copy. We also refer to " Understanding the Borderline Mother " (Lawson) and " Surviving the Borderline Parent, " (Roth) which you can find at any bookstore. Welcome to the WTO community! > > From Randi Kreger, Owner BPDCentral, WTO Online Community and author SWOE and the SWOE Workbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 LOL I have had trouble in the past decoding, but am getting better, I may need to borrow your spy rign :-) Jackie I'm very good at " decoding " ... especially with my trusty spy ring! Lynnette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 That gave me the heebie jeebies hardcore. I think I'm gonna go shower after that one... Jaimie > > I am on another forum with women who apparently had happy childhoods > and ideal moms. > One time recently I mentioned some of the difficulty I am facing as my > nada's dementia worsens and she pulls more stunts and has moved into a > nursing home leaving me to deal with all the legalities and financial > aspects of this. > One of the women told me to just love her, yada yada. > Anyhoo, the following came into my inbox this morning and I just had > to share it. > It gives me the creeps! And I see it as a perfect example of why it is > so difficult to explain to normals about the trouble you have with > your parent. > Here it is: > > Your Mother is Always with You > She's the whisper of the leaves as you walk down the street. > She's the smell of bleach in your freshly laundered socks. > She's the cool hand on your brow when you're not well. > Your mother lives inside your laughter, > She's crystallized in every teardrop... > She's the place you come from, your first home... > She's the map you follow with every step you take. > She's your first love and your first heartbreak... > And nothing can seperate you. > Not time, not space, not even death will ever seperate you from your > mother. > You carry her inside of you. > > > Sent from my blueberry. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 > > oh, me too !! > > Jackie > > > > wow...creepy isn't a strong enough word...this poem is so true...for the > norm who sent it found it endearing and close to the heart...i read it and > feel like i'm goin to have nightmares tonight... > That is creepy! I just had to laugh though, thats the only way I can deal with it. Can you imagine your nada being that close to you! Yuck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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