bumper sticker

[Guest guest]

,

I like the " Got Mercury " then perhaps saying " vaccines do.

I also like the flag idea very much. Count me in on making these.

Dana W.

Re: [ ] Bumper Sticker

JPiker@... wrote:

SOMEONE ALSO POSTED..SOMETHING ABOUT BIN LADEN,LIKE....WHAT IS TERRORISM?

GOVERNMENT MANDATED VACCINES!..... OR ...SOMETHING LIKE THAT....THIS SEEMS MORE

APPROPRIATE FOR OUR NATION BUT DOESN'T HIT THE MERCURY ISSUE. I LIKE THE " NO

CHILD " BUT IT DOESN'T REFLECT OTHER VACCINE INJURED GROUPS BUT FOR THE SAKE OF

THE CURRENT AMENDMENT (ELI LILLY=NO LIABILITY FOR AUTISM/MERCURY POISONING, THE

" NO CHILD " SLOGAN SPEAKS VOLUMES. TERESA

Okay guys, everyone has their own opinions about what they want but we

obviously can't do them all. Can we take a vote:

1. Got Autism?

2. Got Mercury?

3. No Child Left Behind...unless they have autism.

4. Vaccine Side Effects - Autism, ADD/ADHD, Asthma, Diabetes, OCD,

Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatique Syndrome, and Alzheimers. (Love it Becky!)

5. Autism Rising...and so are the numbers of childhood vaccinations.

If there are more I need to add to the list, let me know.

Here is what's going to be on the car flags, do you want bumper stickers to

match:

Autism - The Silent Epidemic

20 Years Ago, 1 in 10,000

Five Years Ago, 1 in 500

Today, 1 in 250

Twenty Years from now-

Scared Yet?

Research on Mercury Induced Autism Spectrum Disorders Needed Now!

<A

HREF= " www.autismautoimmunityproject.org " >www.autismautoimmunityproject.org</A>

<A HREF= " www.momsonamissionforautism.org " >www.momsonamissionforautism.org</A>

Jo

A " Mom on a Mission for Autism "

<A HREF= " www.momsonamissionforautism.org " >www.momsonamissionforautism.org</A>

Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina

<A HREF= " www.unlockingautism.org " >www.unlockingautism.org

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Hi Valentina,

Thank you for writing. Yes, we're hard at work. He's been GFCF for over a

year, & on many vits & supps. There have been small gains from this. We are

working on anti fungal treatments (I " ve been writing about whether to keep

using Nystatin or not); his DAN! nutritionist wants to go on to Flagyl (also

trying to find out info on that) & then other anti fungals. I want to know if

all that's necessary or I just do a round of GSE & see how he does. (I didn't

want to potty train him at this time because his bowels are out of whack from

the treatments; thought I'd wait & see what chelation did for him first).

All in preparation for chelation. I sent his hair analysis in along with one

for his brother (NT but temperament issues) & should get results in a week or

so. I'll probably have more questions on list when that comes in too!

Thanks again,

Michele

In a message dated 11/23/02 10:11:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

val@... writes:

<< Hi,

are you chelating? or giving vitamins/supplements?

Really sorry to hear about your son

Valentina >>

[Guest guest]

I like number 4. I think the Got Mercury one is good, but will people really

get it? How about Got Mercury?? Vaccines do!

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I agree with you on this. We are ALL struggling in one way or the other. I'm

the mother of a very high functioning Asperger's child, and although he's high

functioning, he has many, many issues. He's just packaged a little different.

We do need to keep it respectful. My son maybe 6 and not getting the whole

picture, but someday he will. He's already made fun of at school, and it's

tearing his older brother up. I don't want my 8 year old to deal with any more

than he has to. He doesn't need kids making fun of his mom too! I want a

non-hostile bumber sticker with a slogan that will have impact.

a

>>>>>>>>>My life with autism is not any different from any one else's. Just

because I say to keep it respectful for the sake of our children does not mean i

do not struggle just as much as anyone else does. My son was re-evaluated just a

few months ago and was labeled as moderate to severe. He has horrible temper

tantrums, bouts of severe aggression and I have the bruises to prove it. A

sensory system that is disabling to him at times, is inappropriate socially, has

words but can not use them to communicate effectively. He to is not p/t or most

likely will be anytime soon. I have kicked myself from here to kingdom come for

vaccinating him but with all of that, I say keep it respectful for his sake and

the sake of all of the other children with it. Maybe I am miss understanding

you and if so I apologize. For some reason I got the feeling you where thinking

my life must be a bed of roses since I posted what I did. I think a message of

our reality can be done with respect for the children affected. Just my 2 cents

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I'm sure nobody even thought of this but,,,,,,,you're copying off of the " got

milk " campaign, and that's trademarked. You can be sued for taking their idea

.......

Winona

Re: [ ] Bumper Sticker

I like number 4. I think the Got Mercury one is good, but will people really

get it? How about Got Mercury?? Vaccines do!

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Or how about the last line:

Mercury injured my child -- how about yours?

>Mercury is the second most toxic substance on earth.

>Mercury can cause massive neurological damage.

>Mercury is a toxic hazard.

[Guest guest]

>>>>>>I keep hearing this and I can't stop thinking that cats eat cow milk,

>>>>>>dogs love it, and I'm sure there are other animals too. So why does

>>>>>>everybody say this? I don't think it's stupid at all to drink milk.

>>>>>>But I do think it's not healthy to eat processed milk.<<<<<

Milk is one of the biggest allergy culprits there is. Most don't even

realize when they are intolerant to cows milk, let alone allergic. I think

you would fine that if cats and dogs were not domesticated, they would not

be drinking cows milk! They'd be drinking water and eating other animals.

They'd only drink milk when they were babies, like all species were intended

to do and it would come from their mothers, not the pasture!

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>Mercury is the second most toxic substance on earth.

>Mercury can cause massive neurological damage.

>Mercury is a toxic hazard.

>Mercury was in my autistic child's vaccines.

>(add websites)

>

>Jo

I think this is good, but maybe instead of my autistic child's vaccines, we

could say Mercury is in our vaccines...... This way it's broader....

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How about

AUTISM = Vaccine-Mercury Poisoning!

Joan (A Grandmother on a mission)

> How about the slogan from our T-shirt for the bumper stickers, it

kind of

> says it all?

>

> Mercury is the second most toxic substance on earth.

> Mercury can cause massive neurological damage.

> Mercury is a toxic hazard.

> Mercury was in my autistic child's vaccines.

> (add websites)

>

> Jo

> A " Mom on a Mission for Autism "

> <A

HREF= " www.momsonamissionforautism.org " >www.momsonamissionforautism.org

</A>

> SC Chapter of TAAP

> <A

HREF= " http://www.autismautoimmunityproject.org " >www.autismautoimmunity

project.org</A>

> Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina

> <A HREF= " www.unlockingautism.org " >www.unlockingautism.org</A>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/23/02 6:05:37 PM Central Standard Time, JPiker@...

writes:

> Autism Rising...and so are the numbers of childhood vaccinations.

>

Of the list you asked for a vote on, this one seems most to the point.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

Jo,

Let's not forget that the 85 symptoms of mercury poisoning match

the 85 symptoms of autistic disorder! I'm sure that it's just a

coincidence...NOT!

Is there any way we can get a vote going as to what bumper stickers

we would like made up, as well as the car flags and put this all into

motion? I for one would really like to get this done.

Thanks to all that care!

Dana Wisdom

[ ] Bumper Sticker

How about the slogan from our T-shirt for the bumper stickers, it kind of

says it all?

Mercury is the second most toxic substance on earth.

Mercury can cause massive neurological damage.

Mercury is a toxic hazard.

Mercury was in my autistic child's vaccines.

(add websites)

Jo

A " Mom on a Mission for Autism "

<A HREF= " www.momsonamissionforautism.org " >www.momsonamissionforautism.org</A>

SC Chapter of TAAP

<A

HREF= " http://www.autismautoimmunityproject.org " >www.autismautoimmunityproject.or\

g</A>

Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina

<A HREF= " www.unlockingautism.org " >www.unlockingautism.org</A>

[Guest guest]

> In a message dated 11/23/02 6:05:37 PM Central Standard Time,

JPiker@a...

> writes:

>

I like this one too. I hate to suggest something else, but I would

love to see something like...

Autism / ADHD rising...and so are the numbers of childhood

vaccinations.

I think if we can get some of the ADHD community to realize that we

are all dealing with the same thing - just in different degrees, we

will have a much louder voice.

It still astounds me that even parents of a child with Aspergers will

say something like " and he also has ADHD or ADD " . Isn't it all the

same thing? What child with AS doesn't have attention problems?

Just my 2 cents.

Peace and grace,

Sally, mom to

Tom, 7yo dx AS but on the road to recovery

Ben, 5yo NT by the grace of God

Gracie, 2yo NT and unvaccinated

>

> > Autism Rising...and so are the numbers of childhood vaccinations.

> >

>

> Of the list you asked for a vote on, this one seems most to the

point.

> Gaylen

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sally,

I agree that we should include ADD and ADHD in our message somewhere. It would

help bring this issue to many more people.

Dana W.

[ ] Re: Bumper Sticker

Peace and grace,

Sally, mom to

Tom, 7yo dx AS but on the road to recovery

Ben, 5yo NT by the grace of God

Gracie, 2yo NT and unvaccinated

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

> >

> > If there are more I need to add to the list, let me know.

I would love to add the one R wrote:

" Who needs Bin Ladden, we've got vaccines! "

My two favorites are:

the one above

and " No Child Left Behind....Unleess he has Autism "

I love the one below on the flags, but in my humble opinion, it does

not have to match the bumper stickers, we get to convey more messages

that way.

G

> >

> > Here is what's going to be on the car flags, do you want bumper

stickers

> to

> > match:

> >

> > Autism - The Silent Epidemic

> > 20 Years Ago, 1 in 10,000

> > Five Years Ago, 1 in 500

> > Today, 1 in 250

> > Twenty Years from now-

> > Scared Yet?

> > Research on Mercury Induced Autism Spectrum Disorders Needed Now!

> > <A

>

[Guest guest]

My vote would be for a variation of #3 and #4 with the wording slightly

changed. The first line in bold print followed by a second line in much

smaller print:

No Child Left Behind...Except Those Damaged by Vaccines.

(Vaccine reactions = Autism, ADD/ADHD, Asthma, Diabetes, and Learning

Disorders. Learn the facts. 800- )

It could also say:

No Child Left Behind...Except for Mine Who Was Damaged by Vaccines.

I think limiting it to Autism is too narrow. We want to reach every parent

who has a child with ADHD or Childhood Asthma and make them realize that

their child was also damaged by the " vaccines! "

#1 - Got Autism - yes, we do but so what?

#2 - Got Mercury - most folks will not understand at all.

#5 - Not bad, but deals with the number of vaccines, not the content.

My 2 cents,

Message: 16

Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:04:30 EST

From: JPiker@...

Subject: Re: Bumper Sticker

Okay guys, everyone has their own opinions about what they want but we

obviously can't do them all. Can we take a vote:

1. Got Autism?

2. Got Mercury?

3. No Child Left Behind...unless they have autism.

4. Vaccine Side Effects - Autism, ADD/ADHD, Asthma, Diabetes, OCD,

Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatique Syndrome, and Alzheimers. (Love it Becky!)

5. Autism Rising...and so are the numbers of childhood vaccinations.

If there are more I need to add to the list, let me know.

Here is what's going to be on the car flags, do you want bumper stickers to

match:

Autism - The Silent Epidemic

20 Years Ago, 1 in 10,000

Five Years Ago, 1 in 500

Today, 1 in 250

Twenty Years from now-

Scared Yet?

Research on Mercury Induced Autism Spectrum Disorders Needed Now!

<A

HREF= " www.autismautoimmunityproject.org " >www.autismautoimmunityproject.org</

A>

<A

HREF= " www.momsonamissionforautism.org " >www.momsonamissionforautism.org</A>

Jo

A " Mom on a Mission for Autism "

<A

HREF= " www.momsonamissionforautism.org " >www.momsonamissionforautism.org</A>

Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina

<A HREF= " www.unlockingautism.org " >www.unlockingautism.org

</A>

[Guest guest]

How about " LOSE your child now! Ask me how: VACCINES! "

[Guest guest]

Wow! I think that flag is great! That should get some attention!

I'm sorry if you have already answered this, but when and where will

they be available?

Anita

- In @y..., " tamara3810471 " <grullonm@m...> wrote:

> > >

> > > If there are more I need to add to the list, let me know.

>

> I would love to add the one R wrote:

> " Who needs Bin Ladden, we've got vaccines! "

> My two favorites are:

> the one above

> and " No Child Left Behind....Unleess he has Autism "

>

> I love the one below on the flags, but in my humble opinion, it

does

> not have to match the bumper stickers, we get to convey more

messages

> that way.

> G

> > >

> > > Here is what's going to be on the car flags, do you want bumper

> stickers

> > to

> > > match:

> > >

> > > Autism - The Silent Epidemic

> > > 20 Years Ago, 1 in 10,000

> > > Five Years Ago, 1 in 500

> > > Today, 1 in 250

> > > Twenty Years from now-

> > > Scared Yet?

> > > Research on Mercury Induced Autism Spectrum Disorders Needed

Now!

> > > <A

> >

[Guest guest]

I really think we need a bumper sticker that will clearly spell out the problem.

Something like " vaccines=autism " or I like the phrase at the end of the flag,

" Research needed now on vaccine induced autism " . If you have spoken about this

to the public, they are not hearing the message at all and know nothing about

even the homeland security bill protecting vaccine makers. So in my opinion, it

needs to be very clear and to the point we all would like to make.

[ ] Re: Bumper Sticker

Wow! I think that flag is great! That should get some attention!

I'm sorry if you have already answered this, but when and where will

they be available?

Anita

- In @y..., " tamara3810471 " <grullonm@m...> wrote:

> > >

> > > If there are more I need to add to the list, let me know.

>

> I would love to add the one R wrote:

> " Who needs Bin Ladden, we've got vaccines! "

> My two favorites are:

> the one above

> and " No Child Left Behind....Unleess he has Autism "

>

> I love the one below on the flags, but in my humble opinion, it

does

> not have to match the bumper stickers, we get to convey more

messages

> that way.

> G

> > >

> > > Here is what's going to be on the car flags, do you want bumper

> stickers

> > to

> > > match:

> > >

> > > Autism - The Silent Epidemic

> > > 20 Years Ago, 1 in 10,000

> > > Five Years Ago, 1 in 500

> > > Today, 1 in 250

> > > Twenty Years from now-

> > > Scared Yet?

> > > Research on Mercury Induced Autism Spectrum Disorders Needed

Now!

> > > <A

> >

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

Maybe what should happen is various bumper stickers be made and we all can

individually choose which to display. Seems like that is the only way to ever

solve this dilemma and get going on this thing. I personally want to get a

bumper sticker on my car and spread the word about how vaccines can harm.

Any opinions on this idea of different bumper stickers?

[ ] Re: Bumper Sticker

,

I liked your idea of bumper stickers. So, I called my dear friend

from high school who is a graphic artist and had mine made. It has a

the NO sign with Hg under it and then it says " Ask Me How My Child

Got Mercury Poisoning " . I'm thinking about having her make some

buttons too!

> > " Who needs Bin Ladden, we've got vaccines! "

> > My two favorites are:

> > the one above

> > and " No Child Left Behind....Unleess he has Autism "

> >

> > I love the one below on the flags, but in my humble opinion, it

> does

> > not have to match the bumper stickers, we get to convey more

> messages

> > that way.

> > G

> > > >

> > > > Here is what's going to be on the car flags, do you want

bumper

> > stickers

> > > to

> > > > match:

> > > >

> > > > Autism - The Silent Epidemic

> > > > 20 Years Ago, 1 in 10,000

> > > > Five Years Ago, 1 in 500

> > > > Today, 1 in 250

> > > > Twenty Years from now-

> > > > Scared Yet?

> > > > Research on Mercury Induced Autism Spectrum Disorders Needed

> Now!

> > > > <A

> > >

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

>just remember that all of this CAN be taken TOO far by means of tackiness.

>Remember that someone ELSE'S autistic kid will probably be in the car in

>back of you and read it. I don't ever want my son to think that in MY eyes

>he's LOST. Autism is bad, it sucks, i wish i didn't have to know all of

>these nasty details that I wake up to every morning just like everyone

>else, but my child is still MY CHILD. Vaccines didn't change that !! I

>speak only for myself when I say that MY CHILD IS NOT LOST.....I personally

>think of death when I think of losing my child. And by far, autistic or

>not, he's very much alive!

>Winona

I could not agree more! I was very much sad the other night thinking of all

that is going on and how it sucks that I didn't know more about vaccines

before the birth of my first and second child. My first is dyslexic and of

course the second is autistic. Only my third was spared, because by then I

had the knowledge I do now. Anyway, I could tell that my autistic son was

still up the other night so I went in his room and layed down next to him.

I had been crying and feeling sorry for him and myself. He asked me why I

was crying and I told him I was sad. I asked him if he ever gets sad and he

said, " Yes, when Daddy is mad at me. " I snuggled next to him and said, " I

love you! " Then I asked him if he knew what love is and he replied, " It's

when you feel this way about someone. " He then kissed me on the cheek.

Yes, he is very much alive! I'd rather have it this way than no way at all.

However, I wonder if I would still feel this way if my son was not high

functioning and diagnosed as Asperger's. I can't put myself in a parents

shoes that is dealing with a worse case scenario then mine. We got lucky

that our son's autism was mild. Yes, he still has issues, but not in

comparison to what many parents are facing now or in the future. No parent

should have to deal with any of this, mild or otherwise. Life is hard

enough....

a

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I used to think it stood for 'normal types' but I'm told it means

neurologically typical FWIW

Mandi in UK

> What does NT mean next to a child's name. Is it " Not Talking " or something

> else? Just curious.

>

> Thanks.

> Carla

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with both of the posts.

There is another woman on my block who has a son with autism, and on

her bumper is a bumper sticker " I Love Someone With Autism " .

Perfectly put, perfect message.

Caroline

>

>

> >just remember that all of this CAN be taken TOO far by means of

tackiness.

> >Remember that someone ELSE'S autistic kid will probably be in the

car in

> >back of you and read it. I don't ever want my son to think that

in MY eyes

> >he's LOST. Autism is bad, it sucks, i wish i didn't have to know

all of

> >these nasty details that I wake up to every morning just like

everyone

> >else, but my child is still MY CHILD. Vaccines didn't change

that !! I

> >speak only for myself when I say that MY CHILD IS NOT LOST.....I

personally

> >think of death when I think of losing my child. And by far,

autistic or

> >not, he's very much alive!

> >Winona

>

>

> I could not agree more! I was very much sad the other night

thinking of all

> that is going on and how it sucks that I didn't know more about

vaccines

> before the birth of my first and second child. My first is

dyslexic and of

> course the second is autistic. Only my third was spared, because

by then I

> had the knowledge I do now. Anyway, I could tell that my autistic

son was

> still up the other night so I went in his room and layed down next

to him.

> I had been crying and feeling sorry for him and myself. He asked

me why I

> was crying and I told him I was sad. I asked him if he ever gets

sad and he

> said, " Yes, when Daddy is mad at me. " I snuggled next to him and

said, " I

> love you! " Then I asked him if he knew what love is and he

replied, " It's

> when you feel this way about someone. " He then kissed me on the

cheek.

>

> Yes, he is very much alive! I'd rather have it this way than no

way at all.

> However, I wonder if I would still feel this way if my son was

not high

> functioning and diagnosed as Asperger's. I can't put myself in a

parents

> shoes that is dealing with a worse case scenario then mine. We got

lucky

> that our son's autism was mild. Yes, he still has issues, but not

in

> comparison to what many parents are facing now or in the future. No

parent

> should have to deal with any of this, mild or otherwise. Life is

hard

> enough....

>

> a

>

>

>

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What does NT mean next to a child's name. Is it " Not Talking " or something

else? Just curious.

Thanks.

Carla

RE: [ ] Re: Bumper Sticker

How about " LOSE your child now! Ask me how: VACCINES! "

[Guest guest]

Well lucky you. My child is gone, gone, gone. She will never read and may

not ever even know that other people do. As far as I'm concerned the only

people who went to far are the vaccine companies who marketed these shots as

safe.

Valeri, mom to:

Jenna (4 1/2 mercury poisoning from childhood vaccines)

(3 1/2 NT)

LeeLee (1 1/2 NT)

Re: [ ] Re: Bumper Sticker

just remember that all of this CAN be taken TOO far by means of tackiness.

Remember that someone ELSE'S autistic kid will probably be in the car in

back of you and read it. I don't ever want my son to think that in MY eyes

he's LOST. Autism is bad, it sucks, i wish i didn't have to know all of

these nasty details that I wake up to every morning just like everyone else,

but my child is still MY CHILD. Vaccines didn't change that !! I speak

only for myself when I say that MY CHILD IS NOT LOST.....I personally think

of death when I think of losing my child. And by far, autistic or not, he's

very much alive!

Winona

RE: [ ] Re: Bumper Sticker

How about " LOSE your child now! Ask me how: VACCINES! "

[Guest guest]

Neurologically Typical, typically developing.

Re: [ ] Re: Bumper Sticker

What does NT mean next to a child's name. Is it " Not Talking " or something

else? Just curious.

Thanks.

Carla

RE: [ ] Re: Bumper Sticker

How about " LOSE your child now! Ask me how: VACCINES! "