Re: Back Spasm=Inflammation-Treatment-Larry

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> Larry wrote:

> Can not figure out what your doctor meant by being in a state of inflammation.

Maybe that's my problem. My back muscles spasm when they come, will put me down

flat for four days until the pain lets up and I can get up and around. It is so

hard to be so careful as to not bring one of those spasms on. It`s like getting

a big electrical shock. As crazy as this sounds taking a ride on my motorcycle

helps. Maybe it`s the vibrations the engine gives off.The worst part is getting

on and off.

Larry

Most of the time back pain comes from inflammation and I have had a MRI on my SI

joints and they were bright white and the Doctor (whom I used to work for) told

me I needed to get home and on a anti inflammation medication. Muscle spasm

either cause or are result of inflammation. The rhythmic ride of a Harley

(don't know what brand you have ) may distract you or cause numbness or muscle

spasm. I usually get it from overexerting what is " my pace " as Jennette states.

My pace may not be anybody else's but I have to take care of myself.

I get rock hard spasm but with muscle spasm they cause lactic acid which causes

burrs in your muscle and my myofascial physical therapist, massages these out.

They are knots in my muscles.

You can go to You Tube and type in myofascial exercises for back and they will

show you many.

Most Doctors give anti inflammatories, opioids, and muscle relaxants and

physical therapy to deal with muscle spasm as opioids only do not usually deal

with spasms effectively, only pain.

I take tiizidine, a short term muscle relaxant so I am not sedated much,

Ectoledec is the anti inflammatory I take, my opioid, and Neurotin for nerve

pain. I do not take my muscle relaxant unless I need it. I used to use Volatran

Gel but the manufacturer is not making it anymore but some doctors give a

compounded cream that has anti inflammatories in it but I use Tiger Balm and

heat wraps by Therma Care.

If you have never used a TENS unit (electotherapy) they have advanced and you

with your motorcycle shocks, it might be effective for you.

I use my home physical therapy program program and if I did not do my stretches

to include knee to chest holds, I would be in spasm more. My previous Doctor and

my physical therapist stated they have never met anyone in such severe, deep,

muscle spasm and like the commercials, you could bounce a .......... off my

buttocks, Sacral Illac spasms.

Most back pain syndromes are due to inflammation, especially in the acute phase,

which typically lasts for two weeks to three months.

Myofascial Release for the Back - YouTube

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dJQj_po-fY

I would have never , never, known these things unless I went to a myofascial

therapist who did an assessment on me and has helping me to keep my spasm down

and deal with the issues I have with recommending home exercises and stretches.

I wear a sacral ilac belt to keep my Sacral Iliac Joint from separating and back

posture positions to relax my back.

I have never had such bad back spasm until I had my back spasm and the rods made

me walk differently and kept my back in a straight position which I do not have

strong abdominal muscles so I got bad back spasms trying to adjust to the new

position. This supposedly is common. I can relate with you so I felt the need

to answer your post also. Many of us experience back spasm but if you could get

a physical therapy assessment from a myofascial therapist, I think it would be

helpful. Good Luck and let us know how you are. I came from Choctow Country

outside of Hugo Oklahoma and now we respectfully kid because the Choctaw Casino

there is really bringing in the money and buses in elders from all over Texas,

Oklahoma, and Louisiana.

My home is Paris Tx twenty miles from there and driving by there and seeing the

new construction, hotel, and entertainment center is awesome. My great

grandmother was a Choctaw Indian and my Grandmother always showed us her picture

and my Great GrandPas. Get Better , Bennie

From Cedar Saini Site:

Back Spasm

A spasm is a spontaneous, abnormal contraction of a muscle. When it occurs in

the back near the spinal cord or the nerve roots, it can be very painful.

Symptoms

The patient feels a sudden pain in the lower back while twisting, pushing or

pulling. At first, it may be possible to continue the exercise. But after two to

three hours, bleeding in the muscles stretches the torn muscle and tendons.

The spasm that results causes severe back pain that gets worse with any movement

of the back. The patient usually prefers to lie still, curled up with the knees

bent and the spine arched forward.

Causes and Risk Factors

Spasms happen often when a muscle is swollen and tender (inflamed) or strained.

Any great force can tear the muscles and tendons of the lower back. This occurs

commonly in sports like weight lifting, football, basketball, baseball or golf

that require pushing or pulling or sudden twisting of the back.

The risk of back spasm goes up if you have:

• A pelvis that tips forward more than normal

• Any back weakness such as arthritis, spondylolysis, spondylolisthesis, disk

rupture, spinal stenosis, or a tumor

• Lordosis

• Tight hamstrings, the tendons that run down the back of the legs

• Weak or inflexible muscles along the spine

• Weak stomach muscles

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Bennie,

I cannot thank you enough for all the information that you took the time and

effort to send to me. I am writing most of it down that is new information to

me.

I am sorry that you have so many pain issues also. I wish I could wave a magic

wand and help everyone in this group but it doesn't work that way. Each one of

us has our own world of pain and health problems and ways to survive as best we

can.

I am leaning on opioids to much and beginning to get shaky hands at need times.

You are right Bennie it is a Harley (low rider)I'm not the biggest guy in the

world and the low rider is perfect size for me. The way I see it it`s now or

never for me with the bike and it sure helps mentally and eases the pain. I have

the keys hidden when the opioids are working because that's when I want to ride

the most.

Thank`s again for all the new information,

Larry

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> Larry wrote:

> I wish I could wave a magic wand and help everyone in this group but it

doesn't work that way.

Larry,

In Dr. Tennant's Guide, he discusses enhancers that can assist your opioids if

you are not taking NSAIDS. Excederin has caffeine which gives an up and

sometimes you need that as I know I do.

Now shaky hands can come from other things so take you medication maybe 15

minutes earlier to prevent the tremors if they cause you body to stress. zanax

and sleep meds can cause that tremor but having had the Vitamin D deficiency

that gave me the tremors , I just shake, shake, shake. Neurotin causes me to

shake sometimes and Lupron does also. The med site has these listed so I just

deal with them unless they stay and increase.

Oh I agree the magic wand would be great. My husband has a GoldWing and I love

him to death and I told him, " When you've been on the best, I just can't do the

rest " . I was early twenties, blonde Farrah Facett hair down my back with leather

pants laced and long boots (not to burn my legs), I did not ride with helmet

(shame shame) and my Mother would pull me over and state to get one on.

The orthopedic I worked with in surgery would tell me how many times he saw me

without my helmet so I gave in. Then I started college at night but our 1954 pan

head with suicide clutch, we paid three thousand dollars to Crump Brothers paint

in Dallas that paints race cars and it was pearl burgundy and silver ribbons.

Great colors. Bad first husband, didn't deserve the care I gave him and

motorcycles I paid for. Bad guy. I am glad I got out of that relationship as I

would have never had stress released Bennie

American Pain Foundation has publications and the Target Pain Journal has areas

to write things down and keep in one place. I put my pages in a three ring

notebook and it proved to be helpful

with my social security disability. Good Luck Larry, Bennie