Guest guest Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 We started Diflucan 19 days ago, and we've noticed some really nice gains with the anti-fungal -- up until last Sunday. On Sunday it seemed like he retreated back within himself -- from a social perspective, that is. But at the same time, we've noticed a few NEW (positive things), that we hadn't seen before; new vocabulary words, more spontaneous pragmatic speech, OCD cut in half. His teachers & therapist have reported " a great week " (all last week & so far this week.) They said he seems to be getting better " every day. " They mentioned they still see some old stuff, but to a lesser degree, and they've noticed some really great new stuff, too. (And they have no idea I made any changes..) My question is.. Today he had a bowel movement and it looked like he had undigested white (very, very, tiny), particles in his stool. There was also a little bit of " frothy stuff " (just a little -- and I apologize for the graphics, but it's the only way to explain.) Could this be yeast die off? (The sudden onset of lethargy, a bit of a running nose, complained that his belly hurt, plus particles..) We are on a very, very strict, clean SCD diet, and have been for the past 6 months We've been GFCFSFCF, etc., etc., for 8 months before that. The only new food I've introduced in the past three days is butternut squash and we also started SCD legal probiotic over the past 2 weeks.. I have not seen undigested food in his stool for a very, very, long time, so I'm wondering what this is....I'm hoping for die off, but want to make sure that I'm not missing something and it could be something else. Thoughts? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 can be die off, undigested proboitics, or bacteria kicking up question about die off We started Diflucan 19 days ago, and we've noticed some really nice gains with the anti-fungal -- up until last Sunday. On Sunday it seemed like he retreated back within himself -- from a social perspective, that is. But at the same time, we've noticed a few NEW (positive things), that we hadn't seen before; new vocabulary words, more spontaneous pragmatic speech, OCD cut in half. His teachers & therapist have reported "a great week" (all last week & so far this week.) They said he seems to be getting better "every day." They mentioned they still see some old stuff, but to a lesser degree, and they've noticed some really great new stuff, too. (And they have no idea I made any changes..)My question is..Today he had a bowel movement and it looked like he had undigested white (very, very, tiny), particles in his stool. There was also a little bit of "frothy stuff" (just a little -- and I apologize for the graphics, but it's the only way to explain.) Could this be yeast die off? (The sudden onset of lethargy, a bit of a running nose, complained that his belly hurt, plus particles..) We are on a very, very strict, clean SCD diet, and have been for the past 6 months We've been GFCFSFCF, etc., etc., for 8 months before that. The only new food I've introduced in the past three days is butternut squash and we also started SCD legal probiotic over the past 2 weeks.. I have not seen undigested food in his stool for a very, very, long time, so I'm wondering what this is....I'm hoping for die off, but want to make sure that I'm not missing something and it could be something else.Thoughts?Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 bacteria from what? how do I get rid of the bacteria?Sent from my iPhone can be die off, undigested proboitics, or bacteria kicking up question about die off We started Diflucan 19 days ago, and we've noticed some really nice gains with the anti-fungal -- up until last Sunday. On Sunday it seemed like he retreated back within himself -- from a social perspective, that is. But at the same time, we've noticed a few NEW (positive things), that we hadn't seen before; new vocabulary words, more spontaneous pragmatic speech, OCD cut in half. His teachers & therapist have reported "a great week" (all last week & so far this week.) They said he seems to be getting better "every day." They mentioned they still see some old stuff, but to a lesser degree, and they've noticed some really great new stuff, too. (And they have no idea I made any changes..)My question is..Today he had a bowel movement and it looked like he had undigested white (very, very, tiny), particles in his stool. There was also a little bit of "frothy stuff" (just a little -- and I apologize for the graphics, but it's the only way to explain.) Could this be yeast die off? (The sudden onset of lethargy, a bit of a running nose, complained that his belly hurt, plus particles..) We are on a very, very strict, clean SCD diet, and have been for the past 6 months We've been GFCFSFCF, etc., etc., for 8 months before that. The only new food I've introduced in the past three days is butternut squash and we also started SCD legal probiotic over the past 2 weeks.. I have not seen undigested food in his stool for a very, very, long time, so I'm wondering what this is....I'm hoping for die off, but want to make sure that I'm not missing something and it could be something else.Thoughts?Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Uva Ursi is good for bacteria. But you must use a rotating schedule of 2 weeks on/2weeks off. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ bacteria from what? how do I get rid of the bacteria?Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 25, 2010, at 4:22 PM, "Christel King" <christelking1myfairpoint (DOT) net> wrote: can be die off, undigested proboitics, or bacteria kicking up question about die off We started Diflucan 19 days ago, and we've noticed some really nice gains with the anti-fungal -- up until last Sunday. On Sunday it seemed like he retreated back within himself -- from a social perspective, that is. But at the same time, we've noticed a few NEW (positive things), that we hadn't seen before; new vocabulary words, more spontaneous pragmatic speech, OCD cut in half. His teachers & therapist have reported "a great week" (all last week & so far this week.) They said he seems to be getting better "every day." They mentioned they still see some old stuff, but to a lesser degree, and they've noticed some really great new stuff, too. (And they have no idea I made any changes..)My question is..Today he had a bowel movement and it looked like he had undigested white (very, very, tiny), particles in his stool. There was also a little bit of "frothy stuff" (just a little -- and I apologize for the graphics, but it's the only way to explain.) Could this be yeast die off? (The sudden onset of lethargy, a bit of a running nose, complained that his belly hurt, plus particles..) We are on a very, very strict, clean SCD diet, and have been for the past 6 months We've been GFCFSFCF, etc., etc., for 8 months before that. The only new food I've introduced in the past three days is butternut squash and we also started SCD legal probiotic over the past 2 weeks.. I have not seen undigested food in his stool for a very, very, long time, so I'm wondering what this is....I'm hoping for die off, but want to make sure that I'm not missing something and it could be something else.Thoughts?Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 What are the behaviors/ physical symptoms specific to bacteria? Once starting on a bacteria med what type of die off can be expected? Thanks for all your help, btw!!! Can Uva Ursi also he used "long term" (just as long as we rotate on and off like you suggested?)Again, thanks! Sent from my iPhone Valtrex is for viruses, diflucan is for yeast so neither will do anything for bacteria. Don't stop the Valtrex/diflucan and you can add Uva Ursi. 1 cap/ day for 2 weeks on/2weeks off. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ will the valtrex/diflucan combo also help? (instead of Uva Ursi), or should he take all three? Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 26, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote: Uva Ursi is good for bacteria. But you must use a rotating schedule of 2 weeks on/2weeks off. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ bacteria from what? how do I get rid of the bacteria?Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 25, 2010, at 4:22 PM, "Christel King" <christelking1myfairpoint (DOT) net> wrote: can be die off, undigested proboitics, or bacteria kicking up question about die off We started Diflucan 19 days ago, and we've noticed some really nice gains with the anti-fungal -- up until last Sunday. On Sunday it seemed like he retreated back within himself -- from a social perspective, that is. But at the same time, we've noticed a few NEW (positive things), that we hadn't seen before; new vocabulary words, more spontaneous pragmatic speech, OCD cut in half. His teachers & therapist have reported "a great week" (all last week & so far this week.) They said he seems to be getting better "every day." They mentioned they still see some old stuff, but to a lesser degree, and they've noticed some really great new stuff, too. (And they have no idea I made any changes..)My question is..Today he had a bowel movement and it looked like he had undigested white (very, very, tiny), particles in his stool. There was also a little bit of "frothy stuff" (just a little -- and I apologize for the graphics, but it's the only way to explain.) Could this be yeast die off? (The sudden onset of lethargy, a bit of a running nose, complained that his belly hurt, plus particles..) We are on a very, very strict, clean SCD diet, and have been for the past 6 months We've been GFCFSFCF, etc., etc., for 8 months before that. The only new food I've introduced in the past three days is butternut squash and we also started SCD legal probiotic over the past 2 weeks.. I have not seen undigested food in his stool for a very, very, long time, so I'm wondering what this is....I'm hoping for die off, but want to make sure that I'm not missing something and it could be something else.Thoughts?Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 In my experience,all die off makes whatever autism symptoms that are already there worse.It is not bacteria/virus/yeast specific. To: "mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex >Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 12:16:36 PMSubject: Re: question about die off What are the behaviors/ physical symptoms specific to bacteria? Once starting on a bacteria med what type of die off can be expected? Thanks for all your help, btw!!! Can Uva Ursi also he used "long term" (just as long as we rotate on and off like you suggested?) Again, thanks! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrance@ gmail.com> wrote: Valtrex is for viruses, diflucan is for yeast so neither will do anything for bacteria. Don't stop the Valtrex/diflucan and you can add Uva Ursi. 1 cap/ day for 2 weeks on/2weeks off. Cheryl ~http://www. gryffins- tail.blogspot. com ~@midian42~ will the valtrex/diflucan combo also help? (instead of Uva Ursi), or should he take all three? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote: Uva Ursi is good for bacteria. But you must use a rotating schedule of 2 weeks on/2weeks off. Cheryl ~http://www. gryffins- tail.blogspot. com ~@midian42~ bacteria from what? how do I get rid of the bacteria?Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2010, at 4:22 PM, "Christel King" <christelking1@ myfairpoint. net> wrote: can be die off, undigested proboitics, or bacteria kicking up question about die off We started Diflucan 19 days ago, and we've noticed some really nice gains with the anti-fungal -- up until last Sunday. On Sunday it seemed like he retreated back within himself -- from a social perspective, that is. But at the same time, we've noticed a few NEW (positive things), that we hadn't seen before; new vocabulary words, more spontaneous pragmatic speech, OCD cut in half. His teachers & therapist have reported "a great week" (all last week & so far this week.) They said he seems to be getting better "every day." They mentioned they still see some old stuff, but to a lesser degree, and they've noticed some really great new stuff, too. (And they have no idea I made any changes..)My question is..Today he had a bowel movement and it looked like he had undigested white (very, very, tiny), particles in his stool. There was also a little bit of "frothy stuff" (just a little -- and I apologize for the graphics, but it's the only way to explain.) Could this be yeast die off? (The sudden onset of lethargy, a bit of a running nose, complained that his belly hurt, plus particles..) We are on a very, very strict, clean SCD diet, and have been for the past 6 months We've been GFCFSFCF, etc., etc., for 8 months before that. The only new food I've introduced in the past three days is butternut squash and we also started SCD legal probiotic over the past 2 weeks.. I have not seen undigested food in his stool for a very, very, long time, so I'm wondering what this is....I'm hoping for die off, but want to make sure that I'm not missing something and it could be something else.Thoughts?Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 To my knowledge, there really aren't any die off symptoms with bacteria. I've never seen any myself or my son. If someone has seen it, they would be more helpful than I am with that. Yes, you can do it long term but I don't know if there is a max amount of time. We've never done for longer than about 6 months. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ What are the behaviors/ physical symptoms specific to bacteria? Once starting on a bacteria med what type of die off can be expected? Thanks for all your help, btw!!! Can Uva Ursi also he used "long term" (just as long as we rotate on and off like you suggested?)Again, thanks! Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 26, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote: Valtrex is for viruses, diflucan is for yeast so neither will do anything for bacteria. Don't stop the Valtrex/diflucan and you can add Uva Ursi. 1 cap/ day for 2 weeks on/2weeks off. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ will the valtrex/diflucan combo also help? (instead of Uva Ursi), or should he take all three? Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 26, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Cheryl Lowrance <cheryl.lowrancegmail> wrote: Uva Ursi is good for bacteria. But you must use a rotating schedule of 2 weeks on/2weeks off. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ bacteria from what? how do I get rid of the bacteria?Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 25, 2010, at 4:22 PM, "Christel King" <christelking1myfairpoint (DOT) net> wrote: can be die off, undigested proboitics, or bacteria kicking up question about die off We started Diflucan 19 days ago, and we've noticed some really nice gains with the anti-fungal -- up until last Sunday. On Sunday it seemed like he retreated back within himself -- from a social perspective, that is. But at the same time, we've noticed a few NEW (positive things), that we hadn't seen before; new vocabulary words, more spontaneous pragmatic speech, OCD cut in half. His teachers & therapist have reported "a great week" (all last week & so far this week.) They said he seems to be getting better "every day." They mentioned they still see some old stuff, but to a lesser degree, and they've noticed some really great new stuff, too. (And they have no idea I made any changes..)My question is..Today he had a bowel movement and it looked like he had undigested white (very, very, tiny), particles in his stool. There was also a little bit of "frothy stuff" (just a little -- and I apologize for the graphics, but it's the only way to explain.) Could this be yeast die off? (The sudden onset of lethargy, a bit of a running nose, complained that his belly hurt, plus particles..) We are on a very, very strict, clean SCD diet, and have been for the past 6 months We've been GFCFSFCF, etc., etc., for 8 months before that. The only new food I've introduced in the past three days is butternut squash and we also started SCD legal probiotic over the past 2 weeks.. I have not seen undigested food in his stool for a very, very, long time, so I'm wondering what this is....I'm hoping for die off, but want to make sure that I'm not missing something and it could be something else.Thoughts?Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Flagyl is good for bacteria and yes symtoms can get worse for a couple of days according to our experience.Su===Posted through GrouplyCreate your own group!www.grouply.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 you can have green stools when going through bacteria issues., when killing bateria you can create yeast issues question about die off We started Diflucan 19 days ago, and we've noticed some really nice gains with the anti-fungal -- up until last Sunday. On Sunday it seemed like he retreated back within himself -- from a social perspective, that is. But at the same time, we've noticed a few NEW (positive things), that we hadn't seen before; new vocabulary words, more spontaneous pragmatic speech, OCD cut in half. His teachers & therapist have reported "a great week" (all last week & so far this week.) They said he seems to be getting better "every day." They mentioned they still see some old stuff, but to a lesser degree, and they've noticed some really great new stuff, too. (And they have no idea I made any changes..)My question is..Today he had a bowel movement and it looked like he had undigested white (very, very, tiny), particles in his stool. There was also a little bit of "frothy stuff" (just a little -- and I apologize for the graphics, but it's the only way to explain.) Could this be yeast die off? (The sudden onset of lethargy, a bit of a running nose, complained that his belly hurt, plus particles..) We are on a very, very strict, clean SCD diet, and have been for the past 6 months We've been GFCFSFCF, etc., etc., for 8 months before that. The only new food I've introduced in the past three days is butternut squash and we also started SCD legal probiotic over the past 2 weeks.. I have not seen undigested food in his stool for a very, very, long time, so I'm wondering what this is....I'm hoping for die off, but want to make sure that I'm not missing something and it could be something else.Thoughts?Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010  treating yeast makes gaps or room and if not treating bacteria some times can create room for bacteria to take over... question about die off We started Diflucan 19 days ago, and we've noticed some really nice gains with the anti-fungal -- up until last Sunday. On Sunday it seemed like he retreated back within himself -- from a social perspective, that is. But at the same time, we've noticed a few NEW (positive things), that we hadn't seen before; new vocabulary words, more spontaneous pragmatic speech, OCD cut in half. His teachers & therapist have reported "a great week" (all last week & so far this week.) They said he seems to be getting better "every day." They mentioned they still see some old stuff, but to a lesser degree, and they've noticed some really great new stuff, too. (And they have no idea I made any changes..)My question is..Today he had a bowel movement and it looked like he had undigested white (very, very, tiny), particles in his stool. There was also a little bit of "frothy stuff" (just a little -- and I apologize for the graphics, but it's the only way to explain.) Could this be yeast die off? (The sudden onset of lethargy, a bit of a running nose, complained that his belly hurt, plus particles..) We are on a very, very strict, clean SCD diet, and have been for the past 6 months We've been GFCFSFCF, etc., etc., for 8 months before that. The only new food I've introduced in the past three days is butternut squash and we also started SCD legal probiotic over the past 2 weeks.. I have not seen undigested food in his stool for a very, very, long time, so I'm wondering what this is....I'm hoping for die off, but want to make sure that I'm not missing something and it could be something else.Thoughts?Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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