Re: NO PERIPHERAL BUT GREAT EYE SIGHT???

March 1, 2010

Hello! My 2 year old is the total opposite from the "vitamin A & sideglance" post created by S. back in early December. We're so fortunate that he has really good vision but I can't help notice that whenever I wave my hands or any object on the side of his face, he will not even blink or flinch.

Currently he takes Nordic Naturals Codliver oil and a vitimin that has E & DHA. His eye contact is great when he wants your attention but when your looking for his attention he looses eye contact or looks the other way???

Especially when eating, he'll eat ok but still look the other way....anything to avoid eye contact with me. I was thinking of wearing some silly clown tinsel eye lashes or deep red lipstick to get more of his attention but maybe I'll just be wasting my time. I would like to try this "Mycellized Vitamin A" that "Elena Polyzos" mentioned in the post below; in hopes I could get better eye contact from him.

I hear you have to be careful with vitamin "A" overdose, so I guess I'll have to check with my DAN to check on dosage adjustments. Any thoughts or suggestions you might have to help improve eye contact would be greatly appreciated. I've been having virus computer problems lately and have 5,856 e-mails to read on this board but I surely do love this informative & very important parent forum!Thank you always,Irma

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 6:52:17 AMSubject: Re: Re: Vitamin A and side glancing

Mycellized Vitamin A solves the problem of sidewards glancing for us. I give my daughter one drop a day (5,000 i.u.). By the way, I ran out of Kirkman's Mycellized Vitamin A and couldn't get it for a while as Kirkman's had a problem supplying it. Once I found another source, I started my daughter back on it and in a few days the sidewards glancing was gone. I swear by this - her eye contact is great when she's on it and no eye stims.

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I used to give my son Xylitol without knowing that it causes nystagmus in individuals with ASD. I stopped giving him xylitol and his sideways glancing stopped.

From: askingleaders <askingleaders@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: Vitamin A and side glancingTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 9:03 AM

My son is doing a lot of side glancing which he has not done in a year and it so painful to see it comebackplease let me know, he does not tolerate CLO so I guess I could try the micellized vit A two day trial as per Dr. McCandless and then lowered it to 5,000 iu daily and see if it helps with the side glancing and is non toxic?>> the secretin likly helped with absorption of nutritients the most common one with eye issues are vit A from meseals over growth> > Vitamin A and side glancing> > > > In addition to being a parent I am also a special education teacher. My son's sideways glancing was pretty much solved after we did secretin in 1999. I'm not sure why secretin would help, but thank goodness that one is gone.> > I teach a student who has a severe issue with sideways glancing. He is non-verbal, but smart as a whip. He can look straight on or in my eyes, but other times he relies heavily on peripheral vision. He looks so hard to the side, I think to myself, "I would have a major headache if I did that with my eyes for even a minute." > > I know secretin does not help everyone, and frankly it is too controversial to recommend. I gave this student's mom a book and mentioned that some people have had success with vitamin A doses. She returned it after a few weeks and I don't think she read it.> >

Can anyone point me to some information that is written in laymen's terms that I can pass on? I am not supposed to talk about this stuff with parents, but I know that my son is higher functioning today because his vision works more functionally for him than it did when he was three years old and hyper peripheral. > > Also, this child wants his head rubbed hard all the time. Forehead and back of the cranium. Any thoughts as to why?> Jen>

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March 2, 2010

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nordic naturals and vit E both are soy based which can trip kids out and keep them stoned. first you will need to pull the soy out so he is not tripping and that and see if that helps

Vitamin A and side glancing> > > > In addition to being a parent I am also a special education teacher. My son's sideways glancing was pretty much solved after we did secretin in 1999. I'm not sure why secretin would help, but thank goodness that one is gone.> > I teach a student who has a severe issue with sideways glancing. He is non-verbal, but smart as a whip. He can look straight on or in my eyes, but other times he relies heavily on peripheral vision. He looks so hard to the side, I think to myself, "I would have a major headache if I did that with my eyes for even a minute." > > I know secretin does not help everyone, and frankly it is too controversial to recommend. I gave this student's mom a book and mentioned that some people have had success with vitamin A doses. She returned it after a few weeks and I don't think she read it.> > Can anyone point me to some information that is written in laymen's terms that I can pass on? I am not supposed to talk about this stuff with parents, but I know that my son is higher functioning today because his vision works more functionally for him than it did when he was three years old and hyper peripheral. > > Also, this child wants his head rubbed hard all the time. Forehead and back of the cranium. Any thoughts as to why?> Jen>

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March 3, 2010

You're right Christel, they are soy based! I checked Kirkman labs' "Mycellized Vitamin A" and it's soy free? Maybe I should switch to Mycellized Vitamin A? Would you happen to know of another alternative vitamin that's not soy based good for eye contact?

Gosh, my DAN has him on 1 teaspoon of nordic naturals codliver oil once per day and 3 capsules of vitamin E/DHA/Omega's per day. He did not show any food sensitivies to soy on his IGG/IGE test but he does seem lethargic sometimes especially during meal times. I'll try your advice and pull the soy away and see what happens! As always thank you Christel, I appreciate your well given advice!Irma

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 9:10:15 PMSubject: Re: NO PERIPHERAL BUT GREAT EYE SIGHT???

ï»¿ nordic naturals and vit E both are soy based which can trip kids out and keep them stoned. first you will need to pull the soy out so he is not tripping and that and see if that helps

Vitamin A and side glancing> > > > In addition to being a parent I am also a special education teacher. My son's sideways glancing was pretty much solved after we did secretin in 1999. I'm not sure why secretin would help, but thank goodness that one is gone.> > I teach a student who has a severe issue with sideways glancing. He is non-verbal, but smart as a whip. He can look straight on or in my eyes, but other times he relies heavily on peripheral vision. He looks so hard to the side, I think to myself, "I would have a major headache if I did that with my eyes for even a minute." > > I know secretin does not help everyone, and frankly it is too controversial to recommend. I gave this student's mom a book and mentioned that some people have had success with vitamin A doses. She returned it after a few weeks and I don't think she read it.> >

Can anyone point me to some information that is written in laymen's terms that I can pass on? I am not supposed to talk about this stuff with parents, but I know that my son is higher functioning today because his vision works more functionally for him than it did when he was three years old and hyper peripheral. > > Also, this child wants his head rubbed hard all the time. Forehead and back of the cranium. Any thoughts as to why?> Jen>

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March 3, 2010

I sent a link earlier today regarding a company that sells CLO. It does not have soy in it. Not all do (have soy), you have to check.Sent from my iPhone

You're right Christel, they are soy based! I checked Kirkman labs' "Mycellized Vitamin A" and it's soy free? Maybe I should switch to Mycellized Vitamin A? Would you happen to know of another alternative vitamin that's not soy based good for eye contact?

Gosh, my DAN has him on 1 teaspoon of nordic naturals codliver oil once per day and 3 capsules of vitamin E/DHA/Omega's per day. He did not show any food sensitivies to soy on his IGG/IGE test but he does seem lethargic sometimes especially during meal times. I'll try your advice and pull the soy away and see what happens! As always thank you Christel, I appreciate your well given advice!Irma

From: Christel King <christelking1myfairpoint (DOT) net>To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 9:10:15 PMSubject: Re: NO PERIPHERAL BUT GREAT EYE SIGHT???

ï»¿ nordic naturals and vit E both are soy based which can trip kids out and keep them stoned. first you will need to pull the soy out so he is not tripping and that and see if that helps

Vitamin A and side glancing> > > > In addition to being a parent I am also a special education teacher. My son's sideways glancing was pretty much solved after we did secretin in 1999. I'm not sure why secretin would help, but thank goodness that one is gone.> > I teach a student who has a severe issue with sideways glancing. He is non-verbal, but smart as a whip. He can look straight on or in my eyes, but other times he relies heavily on peripheral vision. He looks so hard to the side, I think to myself, "I would have a major headache if I did that with my eyes for even a minute." > > I know secretin does not help everyone, and frankly it is too controversial to recommend. I gave this student's mom a book and mentioned that some people have had success with vitamin A doses. She returned it after a few weeks and I don't think she read it.> >

Can anyone point me to some information that is written in laymen's terms that I can pass on? I am not supposed to talk about this stuff with parents, but I know that my son is higher functioning today because his vision works more functionally for him than it did when he was three years old and hyper peripheral. > > Also, this child wants his head rubbed hard all the time. Forehead and back of the cranium. Any thoughts as to why?> Jen>

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March 3, 2010

Thanks so much , I'll definetly check it out!Thanks for your response!Irma

To: "mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex >Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 10:26:35 PMSubject: Re: NO PERIPHERAL BUT GREAT EYE SIGHT???

I sent a link earlier today regarding a company that sells CLO. It does not have soy in it. Not all do (have soy), you have to check.Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 3, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Irma Sahdala <imsahdalayahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

You're right Christel, they are soy based! I checked Kirkman labs' "Mycellized Vitamin A" and it's soy free? Maybe I should switch to Mycellized Vitamin A? Would you happen to know of another alternative vitamin that's not soy based good for eye contact?

Gosh, my DAN has him on 1 teaspoon of nordic naturals codliver oil once per day and 3 capsules of vitamin E/DHA/Omega' s per day. He did not show any food sensitivies to soy on his IGG/IGE test but he does seem lethargic sometimes especially during meal times. I'll try your advice and pull the soy away and see what happens! As always thank you Christel, I appreciate your well given advice!Irma

From: Christel King <christelking1@ myfairpoint. net>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, March 2, 2010 9:10:15 PMSubject: Re: NO PERIPHERAL BUT GREAT EYE SIGHT???

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nordic naturals and vit E both are soy based which can trip kids out and keep them stoned. first you will need to pull the soy out so he is not tripping and that and see if that helps

Vitamin A and side glancing> > > > In addition to being a parent I am also a special education teacher. My son's sideways glancing was pretty much solved after we did secretin in 1999. I'm not sure why secretin would help, but thank goodness that one is gone.> > I teach a student who has a severe issue with sideways glancing. He is non-verbal, but smart as a whip. He can look straight on or in my eyes, but other times he relies heavily on peripheral vision. He looks so hard to the side, I think to myself, "I would have a major headache if I did that with my eyes for even a minute." > > I know secretin does not help everyone, and frankly it is too controversial to recommend. I gave this student's mom a book and mentioned that some people have had success with vitamin A doses. She returned it after a few weeks and I don't think she read it.> >

Can anyone point me to some information that is written in laymen's terms that I can pass on? I am not supposed to talk about this stuff with parents, but I know that my son is higher functioning today because his vision works more functionally for him than it did when he was three years old and hyper peripheral. > > Also, this child wants his head rubbed hard all the time. Forehead and back of the cranium. Any thoughts as to why?> Jen>

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