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Jackie,

I have no idea about this but please keep us posted. You said that she

started shaking and had done this before. Did she do this often?

I wish you the best in all of this. Although you lurk this is something the

rest of us will be wondering about. Could you share what the neurologist

says? Sometimes the things that are first said to be rare seem to me to end up

not

so rare.

Again, all the best.

Bonnie, Mom to Kris 22, Patty CHARGE 20 and wife to

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Hi Jackie,

I know this really dosen't apply to your question, but my son has

seizures; he'll be three this October though. However, he never had

seizures until he got very ill in 2004. He suffered major brain

damage, and has seizures through out the day...

I'll keep you and your daughter in our thoughts and prayers...

- Kristy

Mother to Kaleb

> Hello Everyone,

> I am a true " lurker' on this list serve! One of the first to join

this

> list serve in the beginning and I do keep up with all of you

through

> lurking.

>

> Today I am writing as we had an eventful weekend! is 20-she

will

> be 21 in February- and has been doing well healthwise. The only

meds

> she takes are a little Paxil and an eye med for her phthsis-closing

> down- of her left eye. Her heart has been good for years and she

has

> been in a good state.

> On Saturday morning I gave her a hand out of the bathtub and she

> started shaking which is not unusual but the shaking got worse and

she

> got stiff and then blue -this all happened within 5 minutes. We

called

> 911 and she was already getting back to normal by the time they

> arrived. Well, she had a seizure. We have not dealt with this and

we

> are going to see a neurologist.

>

> My question to the list serve and any Drs. is how often has this

> happened in later years with CHARGERS? I spoke with a Mom in New

Mexico

> whose son has started having seizures at 26. On the website this

is

> listed as " rare " but I am wondering. Any info you can give me will

be

> very much appreciated as we hope the see the neurologist soon.

>

> Many thanks,

> Jackie

> Jackie Kenley, Family Specialist

> California Deaf-Blind Services

> San Francisco State University

> 1600 Holloway

> San Francisco, CA 94132

>

> 1 ext 3 (in CA only)

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Perhaps in Dr. Blake's study of the young adults we will know more

on this, but I don't think there are any stats published thus far?

Two boys with confirmed CHARGE I had both developed seizures in the

teens, perhaps something with the hormonal imbalances going on who

knows.

One parent contacted me recently about a finding of an excess of

cerebral spinal fluid and a linkage with severe headaches, and optic

nerve compression but with no other medical reason (like bacteria or

anything) and looking further to more neurologist testing. Not sure

if that would ever be linked to seizures but worth mentioning.

Sorry to hear about this.

Ann Gloyn, Canada

> Hello Everyone,

> I am a true " lurker' on this list serve! One of the first to join

this

> list serve in the beginning and I do keep up with all of you

through

> lurking.

>

> Today I am writing as we had an eventful weekend! is 20-she

will

> be 21 in February- and has been doing well healthwise. The only

meds

> she takes are a little Paxil and an eye med for her phthsis-

closing

> down- of her left eye. Her heart has been good for years and she

has

> been in a good state.

> On Saturday morning I gave her a hand out of the bathtub and she

> started shaking which is not unusual but the shaking got worse and

she

> got stiff and then blue -this all happened within 5 minutes. We

called

> 911 and she was already getting back to normal by the time they

> arrived. Well, she had a seizure. We have not dealt with this and

we

> are going to see a neurologist.

>

> My question to the list serve and any Drs. is how often has this

> happened in later years with CHARGERS? I spoke with a Mom in New

Mexico

> whose son has started having seizures at 26. On the website this

is

> listed as " rare " but I am wondering. Any info you can give me

will be

> very much appreciated as we hope the see the neurologist soon.

>

> Many thanks,

> Jackie

> Jackie Kenley, Family Specialist

> California Deaf-Blind Services

> San Francisco State University

> 1600 Holloway

> San Francisco, CA 94132

>

> 1 ext 3 (in CA only)

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My name is Leigh Anne, I have been a member of this forum for a long time now,

but have not participated in quite a while. I suffer from osteoarthritis in my

lower back and a severely compressed disc T-5. Last week my general practitioner

basically dumped me for missing an appointment, this was innocent on my part, I

am human and I forgot. The doctor has me on morphine and oxycodone. He did write

me scripts to get through the next 30 days, but after that I do not know what to

do.

Is what he did unethical? Is there anything I can do, and what rights do I have

as a patient on narcotics? Please let me know if you have any links or

suggestions for me.

I am considering going to a pain clinic and getting off the narcotics and

dealing my pain in other ways.

I am shocked and depressed and very stressed over this situation. I truly do not

know what to do here. I hate feeling this way, it is really eating me up inside.

I will appreciate any help I can get right now.

Thanks much,

Leigh Anne

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It really sounds like  he was looking for an excuse to get rid of you.   Most

pain doctors require a referral, your doctor should give you a referral and you 

need to find a pain doctor who prescribes opioid pain meds.  It is unlikely that

you will get an appointment before your script runs out and believe me, I feel

your fear and worry.  I have been there.

What doses are you on  now?  I would ask your ex-doctor for help to prevent

withdrawal symptoms, which can be very terrible and dangerous for some people.

 

Call the hospital and talk to social services, tell them what your problem is

and how you fear withdrawal if  you do not get an appointment with another

doctor.

Did you have a contract with your GP?  Did it say he will dismiss you if you

miss an appointment? 

I hate being under the control of a doctor who knows I am going to suffer

without my medications. 

What state are you in?

Jennette

> Leigh Anne wrote:

> Last week my general practitioner basically dumped me for missing an

appointment, this was innocent on my part, I am human and I forgot.

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I think you are right, I just didn't see it. This doc is just a general

practitioner who happens to write narcotic RX for some of his chronic pain

patients. Since I wrote this post I did find a pain clinic, so I'm feeling much

less stress, at least I have a doc again.

This will be the first time I have ever been to a pain clinic, I'm not sure what

to expect. I did manage to get an appointment for mid-July, which is the same

time my narcotics run out.

How in the heck can doctors just dump their patients on narcotics like that?

Aren't they responsible for putting the patients on the pills in the first

place? Don't they have any kind of conscience at all?

I will never forgive him for what he did to me, and the stress he put me

through. I have anxiety, depression, and the chronic pain. I felt like he was

throwing me away like yesterdays garbage.

Thanks for listening, you all rock!

Leigh Anne

--- Jennette wrote:

>

> It really sounds like  he was looking for an excuse to get rid of you.   Most

pain doctors require a referral, your doctor should give you a referral and you 

need to find a pain doctor who prescribes opioid pain meds.  It is unlikely that

you will get an appointment before your script runs out and believe me, I feel

your fear and worry.  I have been there.

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Leigh Anne wrote:

> How in the heck can doctors just dump their patients on narcotics like that?

Aren't they responsible for putting the patients on the pills in the first

place? Don't they have any kind of conscience at all?

It's actually not much different than dumping a patient who is on

medication for high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. In truth it's

" safer " to dump a patient who is taking a narcotic, than someone who is

on medication for life threatening illnesses. Going off a narcotic can

be done in a couple of weeks with some discomfort. Going of high blood

pressure medication, even with tapering, can kill a person.

There are lots of doctors who think nothing of dumping a patient, or

closing a practice and moving without bothering to tell current patients.

I think those kind of doctors should get really sick, and really scared,

for awhile.

It just might jar them into reality.

Lyndi

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So glad you are set up to go to a pain clinic! Make sure you take whatever test

results you have. Make a list of dates of surgeries and what they were for,

even if they are not related. Tell them which pain meds have worked and which

haven't. Tell them any pain treatments you have had and when such as

injections, pt sessions, etc.

It will save a lot of time.

I think what your doc did was a lot of crap. If he felt uncomfortable continuing

to prescribe narcotics, then explain that and give you a referral.

I don't know exactly the legal aspects. I know a doctor can terminate a patient

if they feel that the problem is beyond their expertise, the pt is completely

uncooperative or has not been seen face to face which a certain max time frame.

I think most doctors want to find a " fix " for their patients' problems. Neither

treatment x and the problem is gone or take this pill and the symptoms are under

control. I don't think they like to admit that it is hard to feel that they can

not really fix the problem. It seems they are trained to have all the answers.

Some want to blame us for their frustration.

Why can't they just tell us that they feel out of their training and it might be

better to see this type of doctor! I could live with that. Don't jerk my

chain. I have been there and gone through that with my former GP. I found a

differ one.

Understand your frustration. I think pain management will be a help.

Lots of gentle hugs, Tami :)

--- Leigh Anne wrote:

>

>

> This will be the first time I have ever been to a pain clinic, I'm not sure

what to expect. I did manage to get an appointment for mid-July, which is the

same time my narcotics run out.

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Why can't they just tell us that they feel out of their training and it

might be better to see this type of doctor! I could live with that. Don't

jerk my chain. I have been there and gone through that with my former GP. I

found a different one.

** when I told my doctor I was pregnant in December 2002, he couldn't write

the referral to MN Perinatology Clinic ~ the High Risk OB clinic ~ fast

enough! It was actually pretty funny! He wanted NOTHING to do with me

pregnant because I was so high risk!! **

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