Re: Wasting Money on Meds that don't work or I'm allergic to

[Guest guest]

Hi

I wasted money on on many drugs that did not work,or were causing severe

reactions. I was at the end of my rope, but found out some medications I was

taking for sleep, and pain were making my pain worse. Well, I lost my insurance

when I moved, but found it was for the best. I finally got off of every thing,

but it was not easy. I am only better if I stay away from sugar and all high

carbohydrates, get moderate proteins,and high fats(but low in omega 6 fats). I

spend any extra money on basic supplements, but that is a lot cheaper than

medication that was only hurting me.

Many people also feed their dogs on just meat, and fat, and the dogs get along

better too-no more arthritis. As you are a nurse, you may want to read more

about the science behind such a diet. Hospitals use it, and know it helps

prevent seizures, but they are still learning and studying why and how it works.

I did not wait, for the explanation as to how, as I see it working for me, and

others with chronic pain, and other problems.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK98219/

Here is more from that on how the diet reduced pain and inflammation.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2796387/?tool=pubmed

If you have diabetes or taking medication for thyroid, or statins, there are

doctors and specialists. who can work with you to incorporate this diet. My

doctor did not give me a negative about the diet. I was pre diabetic with low

blood sugar, and the diet helped me control my blood sugar, as well as chronic

pain, and saw other benefits as well.

C

> rosemary wrote:

> From now on, when my pain management doctor prescribes a new medication,

particularly one that is expensive, I am going to ask for a small quantity.

[Guest guest]

> wrote:

> I wasted money on on many drugs that did not work,or were causing severe

reactions. I was at the end of my rope, but found out some medications I was

taking for sleep, and pain were making my pain worse.

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When I am taking a new medication, I have the pharmacist just give me a small

quantity to see if it works, I have my prescription for the rest of the month.

I am also a believer of anti-inflammation diet and have posted the sites but a

basic search by typing in anti-inflammatory supplements and advocate having a

mineral, vitamin, hormone and intrinsic factor lab work before taking

supplements as then you can zero in what the lab tests show.

Also, I have found information in my medication insert that says what blocks the

medication metabolism and an intrinsic factor shows this.

http://www.metabolismadvice.com/anti_inflammatory_food/

http://www.metabolismadvice.com/anti_inflammatory_food/

http://inflammationfactor.com/diet-and-inflammation/

http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-000992000000000000000.html

They have even rated foods with the inflammation factor referred to as if and

you should only eat the ones with low factors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflammation

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?article key=46269

The Arthritis Foundation has endorsed an anti-inflammatory diet, diabetes

association, Fibromyagia, and Med Net, Mayo Clinic, and Nutrition Societies jump

in on this and agree some items in the diet, Dr Weil, Dr Oz but watch out for

those that are using to sell supplements.

My previous Doctor was having me eating an avocado a day, drinking lemon juice

at night (to keep acid levels), turmeric, ginger, no meat except organic. She

asked me if I like pickle juice (and I do) and she said to drink that.

Well, I researched and just took what information I could use, went though the

medications I take and some cause inflammation (Neurotin, Cymbalta-muscle

cramps) so you have to no let yourself be taken in but know what you can do and

what is not able to do.

This diet is also touted to help endometriosis and is similar to a Yeast

limiting diet so do your labs first and make sure you are being monitored.

I do not know if you were speaking of me in as you are a nurse as we have many

nurses on this site and doctors. I never said that diets do not work but I

believe testing should be done to find deficiencies before changing diets. The

diet you speak of meat and fat.

Seizures are a hard one and you cannot just make a general statement about all

seizures as the glucose is broken down into dopamine which helps in seizures and

other actions they cannot explain.

Removing everything white from diet, which is bread, sugar, potatoes, and this

is used in anti yeast diets.

The meat and fats is classic Atkins and causes low ketones, which many think low

ketonic diets help seizures, plus anti gluten diets for

Autism,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten-free_diet,

http://www.autism-diet.com/

The problem with stating a diet will do something is not all fits in one

category thus, as a Nurse, I believe and my specialists do also, allergy

testing, lab testing and then creating a program. The diet you are on is anti

inflammatory and certainly will help your body reduce inflammation and the

swelling of diabetes.

I do spend a quite bit of time looking at the science behind things and look for

peer reviewed, the best institutions and research being done, the size of a

group tested, their control group, and again peer reviewed. I then look at the

con side and why that stance is presented in the conclusion so don't worry, I

look and research and have for years.

I took two four hour courses in Nutrition and the second was Nutrition,

Supplements and Effect on Diseases. I also had to take and incorporate Nutrition

and make the rationale and conclusion of the plan patients who had different

diseases and provide the references.

I believe anyone with a life long disease does need to have a Nutrients on their

team and we, as patients, do have a place to approach our Doctors and ask if

they believe these diets help and bring the literature, you might teach them

something. My last visit, the Doctor took my myofascial physical therapist phone

number for his patients and the you tube videos on it.

The diet you mention is the same as a diabetic diet, you have removed your

sugars, eat food that reduce inflammation, compare with the glycemic index diet,

Also, I believe it helps but the more importance is the type of epilepsy so it

is important to be monitored and here is the " other side " of the story.

Ketogenic Diet: Epilepsy.com/Professionals

professionals.epilepsy.com/page/ketogenic.html

Jul 19, 2006 Does it work? Several studies have shown that the ketogenic diet

does reduce or prevent seizures in many children whose seizures could not . . .

Ketogenic Diet - Epilepsy Foundation

www.epilepsyfoundation.org About Epilepsy Treatment

Another third improve but still have some seizures. The rest either do not

respond at all or find it too hard to continue with the diet, either because of

side effects . . .

Ketogenic diet : Epilepsy Society

www.epilepsysociety.org.uk About epilepsy Treatment

The ketogenic diet may not work for every child but there are certain types of

epilepsy that may respond better than others. Myoclonic astatic epilepsy,

myoclonic . . .

Good Luck Bennie

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bennie,

The poster I replied to said she was a nurse. I did not know you were a nurse. I

eat moderate amounts of unprocessed meats, and a lot of low carbohydrate

vegetables in a variety of colors. I use unprocessed fats, and look for grass

fed butter. The coconut oil helps my body produce ketones, and enable me to run

on fats instead of carbohydrates. I use different spices, turmeric, ginger, and

many others. I take basic supplements, B, C, cod liver oil, A from fish(my cod

liver oil is not high in A), E, calcium and magnesium citrate powder(300mg twice

a day). I also take some gray, moist sea salt for minerals. The doses are not

high. As for fats, I read a lot on how they are related to inflammation. I stay

away from transfats, and too many omega 6 fats, as they cause inflammation. The

animal fats, and coconut oil are a mix of saturated, monounsaturated, and

polyunsaturated.

I am not going back to the doctor for more pain medicine, as there will be

inevitable side effects, and may bring on rebound pain. It does not take much

carbohydrates to put me back into pain again. I really have to keep them low.

Going gluten free some years ago, reduced my pain some, but going grain free,

and high starch food free was what really reduced my pain. I saw my weight

reduced around my waist, and my sugar cravings were finally reduced. My blood

sugar and blood pressure were more controlled.

Most of us with chronic pain have other metabolic syndrome issues. There was a

recent study on the different diets, and how they affect the syndrome. Dr Attia

comments on the study. I actually read the study, not just the reporters slant

on it. Dr Attia does not sell anything.

http://eatingacademy.com/books-and-articles/good-science-bad-interpretation

I will say that this diet significantly helps my brain work better, as my social

anxiety is much less, I handle stress better, I remember numbers better. I can

concentrate better. Pain and the brain are of course, closely related, and

perhaps that is why my pain is also reduced as well.

We appreciate your study, and input. We want to get as much nutrition without

raising our blood sugar. Most of my nutrition reading is from the 1970s onward

to today-from many books, and now the internet. I am in several groups, fibro,

and others. We share a lot. I keep on learning and listening.

Thanks again.

C.

> Bennie wrote:

> I am also a believer of anti-inflammation diet and have posted the sites but a

basic search by typing in anti-inflammatory supplements and advocate having a

mineral, vitamin, hormone and intrinsic factor lab work before taking

supplements as then you can zero in what the lab tests show.