Re: Re:Heidi/Questions on cases of sudden adult onset of autism after Herpes infe

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Hi Heidi,

Do you have any opinion about Dr Goldberg and how he treats? He's on NIDS.

You can write off line, if you want.

Thanks for your opinion

Karla

Subject: Re:Questions on cases of sudden adult onset of autism after Herpes infeTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 8:32 PM

What appears to be the usual problem is that people have many pathogens and toxins causing the problem. A doctor may diagnose one infection and even treat for it, but they miss the knowledge that many infections are usually involved. It's the combination of having many infections and toxins together that seems to be what's really going on. I am impressed that you noticed the similarity in his symptoms and are looking into the matter. What appears to be happening is that many have pleomorphic bacteria, wearing down their immune system. These people will often rarely get sick or have chronic allergies instead of 3-day flus like the general population gets. The immune system is effected, but not in a dramatic manner. One goes around thinking they are healthy. But, when a virus comes around, their under-working immune system collapses, and disabling symptoms erupt. Toxins add to the scenario and

stock-pile, since the body is too over-whelmed with the pleomorphic bacteria to handle the toxins correctly. Such bacteria can be difficult to test positive for while the person is ill due to their suppressed antibodies, which are needed to show a positive to bacteria. But, when they are well, the tests almost always come back positive for what the doctor treated them for, via clinical symptoms. Such pleomorphic bacteria are Lyme, Brucella, Bartonella, syphilis and mycoplasma. If you Google these, you will find all kinds of contrasting opinions on their symptoms, treatments and method of transmission. But, seeking out a professional that knows how to test and treat is helping gobs of people. LLMD's (lyme literate medical doctors), naturopaths, homeopaths, herbalists, and various other practitioners. Sadly, most infectious disease doctors are not considered helpful to those with chronic symptoms by

the thousands of people on the Lyme forums. Local family doctors usually are not either, but some are willing to try to be helpful. I will say this, I read over a 100 forum posts a day for over 3 years, and I have seen gobs of postings of people who were disabling ill, even deaf, crippled, blind, etc. that reversed their symptoms by treating for pathogens and toxins. The Internet really opens doors to knowledge. There are many natural antibacterials that may effect his symptoms to learn of his possible response, as well.Love and prayers,Heidi NIn Stan's letter I received when I signed up with this group regarding comprehensive anti-infectious therapy for autism, I saw the reference to the few known cases of adult onset of autism after a Herpes infection. However, when I search for info on these cases, all I find is vague references to them and nothing that actually goes into how these

cases were treated and if they were able to recover from Autism.I believe my dad has experienced the same thing. He had a bout with Herpes Encephalitis in 2001 (at the age of 53) that hospitalized him for months. When he got out we were told he would have brain damage. He had to re-learn everything. Now that I hear about these cases I am looking at my dad's "brain damage" symptoms differently. He has sensory issues, social anxiety/deficits, cognitive deficits, obsessive interest in the computer and documenting everything, and he is extremely rigid in his routines and daily life.I am just looking for some info on how these past cases were treated so that we can approach my dad's doctor with the info. Anyone have any knowledge they can share, or know how I can find more info on these previous cases?Thank you,Barbara

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Yes. I will. I would like Heidi's opinion since she knows so much about pathogens and infections and she's always explaining it in ways that make sense. I'm also considering Dr G.

Subject: Re:Heidi/Questions on cases of sudden adult onset of autism after Herpes infeTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 3:17 AM

Hi Karla,If Heidi replies about Dr. Goldberg, could you please forward her reply to me? I'm considering consulting Dr. Goldberg and would appreciate her feedback if you don't mind.Thanks> > > From: allrpossible@ ... <allrpossible@ ...>> Subject: Re:Questions on cases of

sudden adult onset of autism after Herpes infe> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 8:32 PM> > > Â > > > > What appears to be the usual problem is that people have many pathogens > and toxins causing the problem. A doctor may diagnose one infection and > even treat for it, but they miss the knowledge that many infections are > usually involved. It's the combination of having many infections and > toxins together that seems to be what's really going on. I am impressed > that you noticed the similarity in his symptoms and are looking into the > matter. What appears to be happening is that many have pleomorphic > bacteria, wearing down their immune

system. These people will often > rarely get sick or have chronic allergies instead of 3-day flus like the > general population gets. The immune system is effected, but not in a > dramatic manner. One goes around thinking they are healthy. But, when > a virus comes around, their under-working immune system collapses, and > disabling symptoms erupt. Toxins add to the scenario and stock-pile, > since the body is too over-whelmed with the pleomorphic bacteria to > handle the toxins correctly. Such bacteria can be difficult to test > positive for while the person is ill due to their suppressed antibodies, > which are needed to show a positive to bacteria. But, when they are > well, the tests almost always come back positive for what the doctor > treated them for, via clinical symptoms. Such pleomorphic bacteria are > Lyme, Brucella, Bartonella, syphilis and mycoplasma. If

you Google > these, you will find all kinds of contrasting opinions on their > symptoms, treatments and method of transmission. But, seeking out a > professional that knows how to test and treat is helping gobs of > people. LLMD's (lyme literate medical doctors), naturopaths, > homeopaths, herbalists, and various other practitioners. Sadly, most > infectious disease doctors are not considered helpful to those with > chronic symptoms by the thousands of people on the Lyme forums. Local > family doctors usually are not either, but some are willing to try to be > helpful. I will say this, I read over a 100 forum posts a day for over > 3 years, and I have seen gobs of postings of people who were disabling > ill, even deaf, crippled, blind, etc. that reversed their symptoms by > treating for pathogens and toxins. The Internet really opens doors to > knowledge. There

are many natural antibacterials that may effect his > symptoms to learn of his possible response, as well.> > Love and prayers,> > Heidi N> > In Stan's letter I received when I signed up with this group regarding > comprehensive anti-infectious therapy for autism, I saw the reference to > the few known cases of adult onset of autism after a Herpes infection. > However, when I search for info on these cases, all I find is vague > references to them and nothing that actually goes into how these cases > were treated and if they were able to recover from Autism.> > I believe my dad has experienced the same thing. He had a bout with > Herpes Encephalitis in 2001 (at the age of 53) that hospitalized him for > months. When he got out we were told he would have brain damage. He had > to re-learn everything. Now that I hear about these cases I

am looking > at my dad's "brain damage" symptoms differently. He has sensory issues, > social anxiety/deficits, cognitive deficits, obsessive interest in the > computer and documenting everything, and he is extremely rigid in his > routines and daily life.> > I am just looking for some info on how these past cases were treated so > that we can approach my dad's doctor with the info. Anyone have any > knowledge they can share, or know how I can find more info on these > previous cases?> > Thank you,> Barbara>

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me too, i hear he is wonderful, I would appreciate insight too!

Yes. I will. I would like Heidi's opinion since she knows so much about pathogens and infections and she's always explaining it in ways that make sense. I'm also considering Dr G.

From: chatting_cells <chatting_cells.sg>Subject: Re:Heidi/Questions on cases of sudden adult onset of autism after Herpes infeTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 3:17 AM

Hi Karla,If Heidi replies about Dr. Goldberg, could you please forward her reply to me? I'm considering consulting Dr. Goldberg and would appreciate her feedback if you don't mind.Thanks> > > From: allrpossible@ ... <allrpossible@ ...>> Subject: Re:Questions on cases of

sudden adult onset of autism after Herpes infe> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 8:32 PM> > > Â > > > > What appears to be the usual problem is that people have many pathogens > and toxins causing the problem. A doctor may diagnose one infection and > even treat for it, but they miss the knowledge that many infections are > usually involved. It's the combination of having many infections and > toxins together that seems to be what's really going on. I am impressed > that you noticed the similarity in his symptoms and are looking into the > matter. What appears to be happening is that many have pleomorphic > bacteria, wearing down their immune

system. These people will often > rarely get sick or have chronic allergies instead of 3-day flus like the > general population gets. The immune system is effected, but not in a > dramatic manner. One goes around thinking they are healthy. But, when > a virus comes around, their under-working immune system collapses, and > disabling symptoms erupt. Toxins add to the scenario and stock-pile, > since the body is too over-whelmed with the pleomorphic bacteria to > handle the toxins correctly. Such bacteria can be difficult to test > positive for while the person is ill due to their suppressed antibodies, > which are needed to show a positive to bacteria. But, when they are > well, the tests almost always come back positive for what the doctor > treated them for, via clinical symptoms. Such pleomorphic bacteria are > Lyme, Brucella, Bartonella, syphilis and mycoplasma. If

you Google > these, you will find all kinds of contrasting opinions on their > symptoms, treatments and method of transmission. But, seeking out a > professional that knows how to test and treat is helping gobs of > people. LLMD's (lyme literate medical doctors), naturopaths, > homeopaths, herbalists, and various other practitioners. Sadly, most > infectious disease doctors are not considered helpful to those with > chronic symptoms by the thousands of people on the Lyme forums. Local > family doctors usually are not either, but some are willing to try to be > helpful. I will say this, I read over a 100 forum posts a day for over > 3 years, and I have seen gobs of postings of people who were disabling > ill, even deaf, crippled, blind, etc. that reversed their symptoms by > treating for pathogens and toxins. The Internet really opens doors to > knowledge. There

are many natural antibacterials that may effect his > symptoms to learn of his possible response, as well.> > Love and prayers,> > Heidi N> > In Stan's letter I received when I signed up with this group regarding > comprehensive anti-infectious therapy for autism, I saw the reference to > the few known cases of adult onset of autism after a Herpes infection. > However, when I search for info on these cases, all I find is vague > references to them and nothing that actually goes into how these cases > were treated and if they were able to recover from Autism.> > I believe my dad has experienced the same thing. He had a bout with > Herpes Encephalitis in 2001 (at the age of 53) that hospitalized him for > months. When he got out we were told he would have brain damage. He had > to re-learn everything. Now that I hear about these cases I

am looking > at my dad's "brain damage" symptoms differently. He has sensory issues, > social anxiety/deficits, cognitive deficits, obsessive interest in the > computer and documenting everything, and he is extremely rigid in his > routines and daily life.> > I am just looking for some info on how these past cases were treated so > that we can approach my dad's doctor with the info. Anyone have any > knowledge they can share, or know how I can find more info on these > previous cases?> > Thank you,> Barbara>