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Dawn,

I'm sorry that this subject has gotten so tense. In the past, Lyssa has

asked that we try to stick mainly to the topic of WLS. I did not mean to

imply that I am offended by jokes. Nor was I trying to alienate anyone.

However, the specific email that I was refering to seemed to emphasize a

variety of political and moral views that, frankly, made me feel

alienated. There is a difference between knock-knock jokes and

discussion of abortion and prayer at schools. I'm not trying to take the

fun out of anything, but honestly, this is a WLS group and that's why

I'm here.

I have enjoyed getting to know everyone on this list, and hope that the

environment of support and friendship can continue. I would hate for you

to lurk in the shadows, Dawn, or anyone else for that matter. The people

here are what make this such a great group.

Just my 2 cents.

- Alice

Dawn wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I wanted to apologize for sending jokes to the list. I thought it would be

> a good pick me up for some who needed it, including myself. It offended

> some people, either by offense, or being overwhelmed with mail.

>

> I won't be sending any further jokes to this list as of now, but if anyone

> is interested in receiving any, feel free to email me PRIVATELY (I don't

> want to have this posted to the list to stress anyone else out any further

> than I already have)!

>

> As of now, I will ONLY be posting about WLS related topics, therefore I'll

> be in the " lurking " mode until I can help.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Dawn

>

>

>

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In a message dated 10/24/00 11:49:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

huggybuggy@... writes:

> be in the " lurking " mode until I can help.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Dawn

>

You can send me jokes whenever you want. Thanks. Now come out to play with us.

NORMA IN MASS

267/177/119

RNY12/9/99 DR,s Brig. Woman's

Hernia-2 TT DR. Randall Feb. 26, 2001

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SEND ME JOKES!!!!!!!!! The swing one was hilarious!!!!!!

> Hi everyone,

>

> I wanted to apologize for sending jokes to the list. I thought it

would be

> a good pick me up for some who needed it, including myself. It

offended

> some people, either by offense, or being overwhelmed with mail.

>

> I won't be sending any further jokes to this list as of now, but if

anyone

> is interested in receiving any, feel free to email me PRIVATELY (I

don't

> want to have this posted to the list to stress anyone else out any

further

> than I already have)!

>

> As of now, I will ONLY be posting about WLS related topics,

therefore I'll

> be in the " lurking " mode until I can help.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Dawn

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In a message dated 10/24/00 11:49:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

huggybuggy@... writes:

<< It offended

some people, either by offense, or being overwhelmed with mail.

>>

Anyone offended by laughter has other issues that they need to get help with.

Russ

304/232/175

open rny 08/01/00

Dr. S. Randall LMH

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Don,

I guess I haven't made myself clear, and I'm sad to see that I'm being

referred to as a " pain. " did I read that right? Anyway, I did not mean

to create such a stir. My original suggestion referred to posts with

religious and political content that in no way related to WLS, and how

this made me uncomfortable. I never said anything about jokes or taking

all the " fun " out of the group, and I never meant it as a personal

attack on (, you know that, right? :) I'm sorry to all who took

it that way. Hopefully this will be the end of it. Otherwise, I'll be

happy to take on the lurker role instead of Dawn. ;-)

- Alice A.

Dondj@... wrote:

>

> Dawney

> Regarding the jokes. I personally like them because, quite frankly,

> this list can get a tad depressing at times. You know what can do? When you

> send a joke, just change the subject line to say " This is a joke " so these

> pains get just delete them if they want to. How do like that? Now be a good

> girl and come back out.

>

> Don

>

>

>

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Well there are a few things we can do about the jokes on the list. I for one

enjoy them from time to time. We could do a funny Friday .. meaning we hold

off posting them until that day .. at least that way you know when to expect

them, post them ,etc

on the other hand if you remember to trim your email messages and label the

subject line as joke I don't see the problem doing it that way either .. as

always remember we have a delete key for a reason ..

on the other hand we could always start a newenglandjokes list for those

that want it .. but personally I probably wouldn't join it as I'm on enough

lists as it is OR .. you could just ask anyone wanting to send/receive jokes

and just make an entry in your address book as " jokes list " and enter

whoevers email into it and they get it everytime you create a new email to

that group.

Just a few thoughts.

I am saddened to hear Lori left over such a thing as expressing opinions

about jokes. I do realize not everyone has as much time or computer power to

be online as much as others or on digests its hard to wade through .. or if

you're just hear strictly for wls then well Im sorry because while we are a

support group we are also friends and chatty and thats why the list

description is as such (lots of email be warned) ..

I'd like to see everyone happy and hope we can reach a happy majority

conclusion to benefit everyone. Meanwhile I hope everyone will ask Lori to

rejoin us as I already have.

Lyssa

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