Guest guest Posted November 21, 2002 Report Share Posted November 21, 2002 We've been using lauricidin for about 2 months, though the first month we started and stopped and gave very small amounts (2 or 3 pellets a day). More recently we've increased it up to 8 pellets a day and now I'm trying to do 6 pellets 2 x a day. My 2 1/2 yr son's stool test (was taken when not doing very much lauricidin)came back and he had a +4 citrobacter freundii and +4 gamma strep as well as many yeast in all 3 samples (but no yeast cultured?). I'm hoping the lauricidin will help with all of this in addition to increasing his probiotics (probiogold and culturelle). My question is: Will a die- off reaction from this cause red bumpy cheeks to get worse? Also with yeast present in all three samples, but not cultured, should I consider nystatin or GSE? Also anyone have citrobacter that lauricidin helped? Oh and one interesting thing and I hope Dr. McCandless reads this, our old mainstream pre-ASD ped. GI doc (we don't see him anymore, but I email him stuff occasionally)says that citrobacter is not considered a pathogen?????? Please someone comment on this either way. Now to the tips on lauricidin. I do think this is really good stuff and boy is it nasty if you bite into one (I thought, how bad can it be and tried it once, I swear it stayed with me all day). I first started getting into Jack by sneaking it into blueberries (not good for those with phenol issues, but doesn't seem to bother my kid and he loves them), I would cut a little slit into the top of the blueberry and put one pellet in. I also slice grapes and do the same thing. I also have recently gotten more brave, I sneak it into little slits in pieces of toast or muffins. Pear sauce is good too (they are less likely to try to chew with that). I never thought I could get those pellets into Jack, but I was determined. Occasionally he does bite into one, so I just try to make sure I don't hide it in the same food all of the time (I would hate to create any adversions to the few foods he does eat). Hope that helps. If you have a child that's a really great chewer, then pear or apple sauce (or yogurt if not sf or cf). The point is, if I can sneak them into my kid, anyone can do it. Thank you to anyone that can help with any of my questions and I hope I can help others get up the nerve to try the lauricidin. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2002 Report Share Posted November 23, 2002 My understanding is that citrobacter is a " conditional " pathogen - that is, not usually pathogenic, but can become so in a severely immunocompromised person. However, a good broad-spectrum probiotic should handle that (pro-bio gold or Klaire's Vital-10) in addition to Culturelle or another good acidophilus source, so I don't usually try to treat it specifically other than with probiotics. Lauricidin is good for everything - congratulations on getting it down! Dr. Kabara tells me that the pellets can be frozen and ground into a powder which may be easier to hide or for kids who can swallow capsules, put in a capsule that is not so tempting to chew as a little smooth pellet. [ ] lauricidin question and tips on how to get it in your kid... > We've been using lauricidin for about 2 months, though the first > month we started and stopped and gave very small amounts (2 or 3 > pellets a day). More recently we've increased it up to 8 pellets a > day and now I'm trying to do 6 pellets 2 x a day. My 2 1/2 yr son's > stool test (was taken when not doing very much lauricidin)came back > and he had a +4 citrobacter freundii and +4 gamma strep as well as > many yeast in all 3 samples (but no yeast cultured?). I'm hoping the > lauricidin will help with all of this in addition to increasing his > probiotics (probiogold and culturelle). My question is: Will a die- > off reaction from this cause red bumpy cheeks to get worse? Also with > yeast present in all three samples, but not cultured, should I > consider nystatin or GSE? Also anyone have citrobacter that > lauricidin helped? Oh and one interesting thing and I hope Dr. > McCandless reads this, our old mainstream pre-ASD ped. GI doc (we > don't see him anymore, but I email him stuff occasionally)says that > citrobacter is not considered a pathogen?????? Please someone > comment on this either way. > > Now to the tips on lauricidin. I do think this is really good stuff > and boy is it nasty if you bite into one (I thought, how bad can it > be and tried it once, I swear it stayed with me all day). I first > started getting into Jack by sneaking it into blueberries (not good > for those with phenol issues, but doesn't seem to bother my kid and > he loves them), I would cut a little slit into the top of the > blueberry and put one pellet in. I also slice grapes and do the same > thing. I also have recently gotten more brave, I sneak it into > little slits in pieces of toast or muffins. Pear sauce is good too > (they are less likely to try to chew with that). > I never thought I could get those pellets into Jack, but I was > determined. Occasionally he does bite into one, so I just try to > make sure I don't hide it in the same food all of the time (I would > hate to create any adversions to the few foods he does eat). > Hope that helps. If you have a child that's a really great chewer, > then pear or apple sauce (or yogurt if not sf or cf). The point is, > if I can sneak them into my kid, anyone can do it. > > Thank you to anyone that can help with any of my questions and I hope > I can help others get up the nerve to try the lauricidin. > Sharon > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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