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We've been using lauricidin for about 2 months, though the first

month we started and stopped and gave very small amounts (2 or 3

pellets a day). More recently we've increased it up to 8 pellets a

day and now I'm trying to do 6 pellets 2 x a day. My 2 1/2 yr son's

stool test (was taken when not doing very much lauricidin)came back

and he had a +4 citrobacter freundii and +4 gamma strep as well as

many yeast in all 3 samples (but no yeast cultured?). I'm hoping the

lauricidin will help with all of this in addition to increasing his

probiotics (probiogold and culturelle). My question is: Will a die-

off reaction from this cause red bumpy cheeks to get worse? Also with

yeast present in all three samples, but not cultured, should I

consider nystatin or GSE? Also anyone have citrobacter that

lauricidin helped? Oh and one interesting thing and I hope Dr.

McCandless reads this, our old mainstream pre-ASD ped. GI doc (we

don't see him anymore, but I email him stuff occasionally)says that

citrobacter is not considered a pathogen?????? Please someone

comment on this either way.

Now to the tips on lauricidin. I do think this is really good stuff

and boy is it nasty if you bite into one (I thought, how bad can it

be and tried it once, I swear it stayed with me all day). I first

started getting into Jack by sneaking it into blueberries (not good

for those with phenol issues, but doesn't seem to bother my kid and

he loves them), I would cut a little slit into the top of the

blueberry and put one pellet in. I also slice grapes and do the same

thing. I also have recently gotten more brave, I sneak it into

little slits in pieces of toast or muffins. Pear sauce is good too

(they are less likely to try to chew with that).

I never thought I could get those pellets into Jack, but I was

determined. Occasionally he does bite into one, so I just try to

make sure I don't hide it in the same food all of the time (I would

hate to create any adversions to the few foods he does eat).

Hope that helps. If you have a child that's a really great chewer,

then pear or apple sauce (or yogurt if not sf or cf). The point is,

if I can sneak them into my kid, anyone can do it.

Thank you to anyone that can help with any of my questions and I hope

I can help others get up the nerve to try the lauricidin.

Sharon

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My understanding is that citrobacter is a " conditional " pathogen - that is,

not usually pathogenic, but can become so in a severely immunocompromised

person. However, a good broad-spectrum probiotic should handle that

(pro-bio gold or Klaire's Vital-10) in addition to Culturelle or another

good acidophilus source, so I don't usually try to treat it specifically

other than with probiotics. Lauricidin is good for everything -

congratulations on getting it down! Dr. Kabara tells me that the pellets

can be frozen and ground into a powder which may be easier to hide or for

kids who can swallow capsules, put in a capsule that is not so tempting to

chew as a little smooth pellet.

[ ] lauricidin question and tips on how to get it in

your kid...

> We've been using lauricidin for about 2 months, though the first

> month we started and stopped and gave very small amounts (2 or 3

> pellets a day). More recently we've increased it up to 8 pellets a

> day and now I'm trying to do 6 pellets 2 x a day. My 2 1/2 yr son's

> stool test (was taken when not doing very much lauricidin)came back

> and he had a +4 citrobacter freundii and +4 gamma strep as well as

> many yeast in all 3 samples (but no yeast cultured?). I'm hoping the

> lauricidin will help with all of this in addition to increasing his

> probiotics (probiogold and culturelle). My question is: Will a die-

> off reaction from this cause red bumpy cheeks to get worse? Also with

> yeast present in all three samples, but not cultured, should I

> consider nystatin or GSE? Also anyone have citrobacter that

> lauricidin helped? Oh and one interesting thing and I hope Dr.

> McCandless reads this, our old mainstream pre-ASD ped. GI doc (we

> don't see him anymore, but I email him stuff occasionally)says that

> citrobacter is not considered a pathogen?????? Please someone

> comment on this either way.

>

> Now to the tips on lauricidin. I do think this is really good stuff

> and boy is it nasty if you bite into one (I thought, how bad can it

> be and tried it once, I swear it stayed with me all day). I first

> started getting into Jack by sneaking it into blueberries (not good

> for those with phenol issues, but doesn't seem to bother my kid and

> he loves them), I would cut a little slit into the top of the

> blueberry and put one pellet in. I also slice grapes and do the same

> thing. I also have recently gotten more brave, I sneak it into

> little slits in pieces of toast or muffins. Pear sauce is good too

> (they are less likely to try to chew with that).

> I never thought I could get those pellets into Jack, but I was

> determined. Occasionally he does bite into one, so I just try to

> make sure I don't hide it in the same food all of the time (I would

> hate to create any adversions to the few foods he does eat).

> Hope that helps. If you have a child that's a really great chewer,

> then pear or apple sauce (or yogurt if not sf or cf). The point is,

> if I can sneak them into my kid, anyone can do it.

>

> Thank you to anyone that can help with any of my questions and I hope

> I can help others get up the nerve to try the lauricidin.

> Sharon

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