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Mel, some excellent GFCF recipes are in ' Special Diets for Special

Kids available at Amazon.com or at many bookstores. Further, she explains

many things about gluten and casein sensitivities and a GFCF diet, suggests

brand names and checking with manufacturers to be sure their products are

still GFCF, etc. Also, here are some links for recipes and suppliers. Good

luck. Sylvia, 7 yr. old 's grandma

www.nowheat.com/grfx/nowheat/recipe/recipes.htm

www.nowheat.com/grfx/nowheat/primer/supplier.htm

www.fritolay.com/consumer/dietary/glutefree.html

www.fritolay.com/consumer/dietary/milkfree.html

www.ener-g.com

www.glutenfree.com

www.bobsredmill.com

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In a message dated 2/12/03 12:45:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes:

I wished I had a yard to plant one...maybe I can just adopt one . We

live in a condo close to a national park with thousands of trees.

love jerry

So send a picture of you with one of those trees. Or send a picture of you thinking about a tree.

Harper

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Harper.... was thinking of using a picture with me holding a 2 x 4 or a

newspaper or some toilet paper. Close enough?

love jerry

In a message dated 2/12/03 12:45:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes:

I wished I had a yard to plant one...maybe I can just adopt one . We

live in a condo close to a national park with thousands of trees.

love jerry

So send a picture of you with one of those trees. Or send a picture of you thinking about a tree.

Harper

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Ann,

I can see some value to what this person is saying--- but I wouldn't buy it

hook line and sinker! The " window of opportunity " may not be closed for

your daughter--- if the milestones come later for our kids, it would make sense

that the window would close later for them. I have seen many kids with DS do

things well beyond the time the " window was closed " . I would also expect

that the research was not done on kids with DS. I have a friend whose daughter

at age 20-- in the last year of transition, learned to read and at about a

3rd grade level. My own daughter learned to add and subtract in the 7th and

8th grade, after I thought it was hopeless ;-) I would say-- keep pushing for

it, I would rather " try " and fail than not try at all!

M. Mom to Holly age 17--- the very happy senior

In a message dated 11/29/2005 3:56:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

writes:

recent long conversation with our school psychologist was eye-opening. He

suggested that his research indicates that students that are " struggling

readers " should be taught using an intensive phonemic awareness starting early

(age

5-6). This type of reading program should continue until the student

masters, or until age 10, when their " window of opportunity " to decode words

" closes " . He said that after the window closes it will be very difficult to

learn to

read using this approach. He is now re-recommending a sight word approach :-

(

Considering they only tried a phonemic approach for 3 months in the 5th

grade (well after her tenth birthday) I believe they did her a disservice. If I

knew then what I know now I would not have trusted the " professionals " in our

district, we would have insisted on a phonemic approach as early as possible.

Independent evaluators (within the past two years) are still recommending

that the district use LIPS, our district gave us Telien instead.

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That theory has been discredited by many DS researchers and brain plasticity

is now thought to exist much beyond the old adolescent " closing " age. People

with DS really are life-long learners and they continue to learn, although

it may take longer and progress may not reach the same levels as people

without DS.

Most of the reading research I've seen suggests a strong sight program (like

Oelwein's) followed starting at about age 7-10 by any good phonics program

properly implemented. Denying any child the opportunity to learn to read by

decoding words automatically limits what the child (and later adult) will be

able to access since sight readers can only read words they have been sight

taught and cannot decode new or unfamiliar words.

Suggest a second opinion.

Re: Digest Number 2819

Ann,

I can see some value to what this person is saying--- but I wouldn't buy it

hook line and sinker! The " window of opportunity " may not be closed for

your daughter--- if the milestones come later for our kids, it would make

sense

that the window would close later for them. I have seen many kids with DS

do

things well beyond the time the " window was closed " . I would also expect

that the research was not done on kids with DS. I have a friend whose

daughter

at age 20-- in the last year of transition, learned to read and at about a

3rd grade level. My own daughter learned to add and subtract in the 7th

and

8th grade, after I thought it was hopeless ;-) I would say-- keep pushing

for

it, I would rather " try " and fail than not try at all!

M. Mom to Holly age 17--- the very happy senior

In a message dated 11/29/2005 3:56:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

writes:

recent long conversation with our school psychologist was eye-opening. He

suggested that his research indicates that students that are " struggling

readers " should be taught using an intensive phonemic awareness starting

early (age

5-6). This type of reading program should continue until the student

masters, or until age 10, when their " window of opportunity " to decode

words

" closes " . He said that after the window closes it will be very difficult to

learn to

read using this approach. He is now re-recommending a sight word approach

:-

(

Considering they only tried a phonemic approach for 3 months in the 5th

grade (well after her tenth birthday) I believe they did her a disservice.

If I

knew then what I know now I would not have trusted the " professionals " in

our

district, we would have insisted on a phonemic approach as early as

possible.

Independent evaluators (within the past two years) are still recommending

that the district use LIPS, our district gave us Telien instead.

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My son is nearly 41 and he is still learning

new things. Probably not as quickly, I'm a little slower at learning now too.

He learned to read in preschool and kept on improving at it for years. He

did some sight reading at age 2, before he talked that well. But he really

learned with phonics. And his mind is still active. I h ad to laugh today.

We

were in a doctor's waiting room with a large screen TV. It was showing news,

it was a slow car chase on a Cal. highway. Someone commented that it was like

watching the White Bronco and we laughed. turned to me and said

" O.J.! " And that's been awhile. Jessie, Mom to , 40

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