Guest guest Posted May 19, 2000 Report Share Posted May 19, 2000 Thank you Judith. Whatever the differences, if just that one person can gain that hope and by whatever means... >... but there is always the possibility that a light will come in their > head -- " a bell in your head will ring " (todd rundgren)-- and they'll see > that they can make some good things happen, and those good things provide a > little bit of counterbalance to the bad things. Amen to that. In memory of my Mom (1920-1984) who lost her own brave struggle with manic depression. Regards, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2000 Report Share Posted May 20, 2000 Judith Stillwater wrote: > in the depression group I read, someone committed suicide. argue your hearts > out, stand up for what you believe in, just please continue to exist, > continue to be visible. > Was this ASD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2000 Report Share Posted May 20, 2000 Hi Amy--yes it was. Judith On Sat, 20 May 2000 00:27:13 -0600, 12-step-freeegroups wrote: > Judith Stillwater wrote: > > > in the depression group I read, someone committed suicide. argue your hearts > > out, stand up for what you believe in, just please continue to exist, > > continue to be visible. > > > > Was this ASD? > _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2000 Report Share Posted May 21, 2000 I didn't know her myself, but it's always really sad when someone commits suicide. Did you know her well? Judith Stillwater wrote: > Hi Amy--yes it was. > > Judith > > On Sat, 20 May 2000 00:27:13 -0600, 12-step-freeegroups wrote: > > > Judith Stillwater wrote: > > > > > in the depression group I read, someone committed suicide. argue your > hearts > > > out, stand up for what you believe in, just please continue to exist, > > > continue to be visible. > > > > > > > Was this ASD? > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite > Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Save 75% on Products! > Find incredible deals on overstocked items with Free shipping! > http://click./1/4013/2/_/4324/_/958829988/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2000 Report Share Posted May 21, 2000 On Sun, 21 May 2000 01:58:44 -0600, 12-step-freeegroups wrote: > I didn't know her myself, but it's always really sad when someone commits > suicide. Did you know her well? No, I didn't. I guess I'm reacting more to the people who are left behind, the ones who did know her well and were communicating with her up until the end. One person in particular kind of lost it (her initials are MB, you probably know who I'm talking about, she posts a lot--I think she's really a sweet person). And of course, having dealt with depression myself, the topic of suicide brings up some strong feelings in me. It does tie in with my feelings about AA. Looking back, I see that my experience with 12 step treatment was a catalyst which worsened my depression. Until treatment, I would say I was a bit melodramatic in the way I felt and expressed my emotions. Irritating to myself and those around me, perhaps, but not dangerous. However, in treatment, I became obsessed with the idea of suicide. and I wasn't prepared for the way the staff calmly blew off my suicidal ideation. It still hurts to this day that anyone could be so mean to someone in pain. Judith _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2000 Report Share Posted May 21, 2000 > Looking back, I see that my > experience with 12 step treatment was a catalyst which worsened my > depression. Until treatment, I would say I was a bit melodramatic in the way > I felt and expressed my emotions. Irritating to myself and those around me, > perhaps, but not dangerous. > > However, in treatment, I became obsessed with the idea of suicide. and I > wasn't prepared for the way the staff calmly blew off my suicidal ideation. > It still hurts to this day that anyone could be so mean to someone in pain. So I necessarily have EXTREMELY negative feelings toward ANYONE who says I should be GRATEFUL for anything that happened in AA. Judith, angry _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2000 Report Share Posted May 21, 2000 Judith Stillwater wrote: > On Sun, 21 May 2000 01:58:44 -0600, 12-step-freeegroups wrote: > > > I didn't know her myself, but it's always really sad when someone commits > > suicide. Did you know her well? > > No, I didn't. I guess I'm reacting more to the people who are left behind, > the ones who did know her well and were communicating with her up until the > end. One person in particular kind of lost it (her initials are MB, you > probably know who I'm talking about, she posts a lot--I think she's really a > sweet person). She's a dear -- I agree. > And of course, having dealt with depression myself, the topic > of suicide brings up some strong feelings in me. > > It does tie in with my feelings about AA. Looking back, I see that my > experience with 12 step treatment was a catalyst which worsened my > depression. Until treatment, I would say I was a bit melodramatic in the way > I felt and expressed my emotions. Irritating to myself and those around me, > perhaps, but not dangerous. > > However, in treatment, I became obsessed with the idea of suicide. and I > wasn't prepared for the way the staff calmly blew off my suicidal ideation. > It still hurts to this day that anyone could be so mean to someone in pain. How could they responsibly blow off your suicidal ideation? Where were you? How did you survive to get out? Not that I'm shocked, given my experience. I am, however, appalled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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