Re: Tommy-psychology as religion

[Guest guest]

Kim,

Yes, great book. It's been on libertarian reading lists since it was

new.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060391979/qid%3D959117769/102-

3109860-2254466

There is another about junk science in the court room. I think it's

Gallileo's Revenge. I'll check on it.

If there is one theme I get from the writings of Szasz it is his

advocacy of the separation of medicine and state. We are seeing the

horrors of the history of religious persecution in the government's

alignment with medicine today. Szasz also takes no prisoners when he

takes on institutional psychiatrists, calling them " jailers and

poisoners masquerading as doctors. "

Tommy

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> Hi. In Szatz's book on persecution of addicts, there

> wasn't anything about that. but, I read another great

> book called " Whores of the court- (something

> something-forget exact 2nd part of title)( " expert

> witnesses " ? " psychiatry " ?) and the selling of the

> American justice system " . She says that clinical

> psychology is all a bunch of unproven theories, and so

> not a science at ALL. (As opposed to research

> psychology, such as into cognition, etc.) which is a

> just starting science(they follow the scientific

> method) which is still quite small. Psychiatrists, and

> " psychologists " , routinely give " expert " testimony

> where they quote unproven theories and arbitrarily

> assign DSMV psychiatric labels to people, and get paid

> BIG money to do it. " WHORES OF THE COURT " -!!! Pretty

> strong language!!! Great book.

>

>

> Kim

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kim

Imo a more reasonable account of the corruption of clinical

Psychology

is " House of Cards: Psychotherapy based on Myth " by Robyn Dawes,

himself a certified clinical psychologist and a member of the Board

of

the American Psychological Association , who is not a radical

libertarian like Szasz and does not consider mental illness a myth,

but does believe treatment should be science-based. His position is

that there *is* a legitimate, science-based clinical psychology but

psychologists routinely ignore it, instead using their certification

as a cover to tout their own nostrums. He also says that he believes

psychiatry is much the same but he is much better able to state the

case in psychology. His accounts include the baselessness of 12-step

treatment. Some clinical psychologists have become so disenchanted

with the failure of the APA to restrict psychologists to

scientifically supported approaches that they have split to form the

American Psychological Society (APS). I wish them well, not least

because they have the goosd sense not to have the same initials as

the

American Psychiatric Association!

P.

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>

> Hi. In Szatz's book on persecution of addicts, there

> wasn't anything about that. but, I read another great

> book called " Whores of the court- (something

> something-forget exact 2nd part of title)( " expert

> witnesses " ? " psychiatry " ?) and the selling of the

> American justice system " . She says that clinical

> psychology is all a bunch of unproven theories, and so

> not a science at ALL. (As opposed to research

> psychology, such as into cognition, etc.) which is a

> just starting science(they follow the scientific

> method) which is still quite small. Psychiatrists, and

> " psychologists " , routinely give " expert " testimony

> where they quote unproven theories and arbitrarily

> assign DSMV psychiatric labels to people, and get paid

> BIG money to do it. " WHORES OF THE COURT " -!!! Pretty

> strong language!!! Great book.

>

>

> Kim

>

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[Guest guest]

Here it is:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0465026249/qid=959118718/sr=1-1

/102-3109860-2254466