Re: EXECUTION of Pete, Bjorn and Joe

June 30, 2000

Yeah, that almost works . The only problem is that you don't know

shit about sports riots. You seem far too willing to overlook the

little Los Angeles " celebrations " that took place barely two weeks ago.

I don't recall a single year that hasn't resulted in a sports riot

somewhere in the USA. Not to mention the school riots that took place

in towns too small to support a decent riot, those being Tucson,

Arizona, and East Lansing, Michigan, that nevertheless had kickass

riots.

Arroyo wrote:

>

> Alright guys. I'm tired of this Americana bashing already.

>

> We may be way out there some times, like with XA, but lets face it, it's

> gaining a foothold elsewhere and those aren't Americans attending those

> meetings and spreading the gospel according to St. Bill.

>

> In terms of culture we're still a young nation not stodgy like some appear.

> Young and vital which is probably why American pop culture sells so well

> overseas.

>

> We may be exporting some of our lunacy with our genius but there seems to be

> a market for both outside of the US.

>

> One last thing. Been to any good football games lately gentlemen? Recently

> my Tele's been displaying some before and after game sporting by spectators.

> Talk about violence.

>

> Usually when we riot here it's some pretty small things that have been going

> on like someone's killed, huge miscarriage of justice racial and otherwise,

> the WTO's outrageous policies. You know little things. I wish we could get

> on the earth shattering events like my team is better than your team riot

> bandwagon.

>

> MUUUUUUUUUHAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAA!

>

> I can sit through most of the US bashing because we are kind of out there

> but it's been getting kind of rampant of late.

>

> On last thing. Really this time:

>

> My country is bigger'n your'n. : 0 =

>

> Re: Re: EXECUTION, Pete

>

> Hi Pete

>

> Very well put. But it seems futile to discuss these matters with a person

> that doesn't respond to arguments. As Carey says. He's entitled to have his

> opinion even though he's got no valid arguments.

>

> I once read a book by an englishman who had interviewed the residents on the

> death row. One of them had discovered that immediately after an execution

> there were more murders than usual.

>

> Must be this " 15 Minutes of Fame " -effect. People will obviously do anything

> to get into the media.

>

> Well, but the cannibals on New Guinea have stopped their brain eating and by

> this reduced the incidence of Kreutzfeldt-s disease (cow madness) to a

> minimum.

>

> Obviously they can be reasoned with, even though their habit must have been

> deep rooted in their culture. Why can't the americans? (Sorry, but sometimes

> I can't resist teasing you folks. But if you choose to be mad at me I can

> only say muuuhh!)

>

> Bjørn

>

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June 30, 2000

And you totally missed the point.

I'm quite capable of seeing the shit in my own back yard especially with

other people the news media and papers reminding me of it on a daily basis.

And yes my high school had it's share of riots over idiotic shit. I've also

lived in two cities that have had the dubious distinction of being the

murder capital of the US through the years and subsequently attempted to

live up to the distinction. I was at the Disco Sucks Rock & Roll forever

riot during the double header at Wrigley Field mostly dodging LP's. So I

can speak first hand on the subject of asinine Sports riots.

I was pointing out that shit happens everywhere.

What I was doing J was the same thing that Pete, Joe and Bjorn did which is

ignoring their own back yard to poke fun at our'n. Overlooking some of the

shit in my own backyard was exactly what I was going for. Like Bjorn I was

going for humor. The muuuhaahaa should have been a dead give away.

One more thing. About the only thing saying I didn't know shit about sports

riots did was almost get you a shitty response..

Re: Re: EXECUTION, Pete

>

> Hi Pete

>

> Very well put. But it seems futile to discuss these matters with a person

> that doesn't respond to arguments. As Carey says. He's entitled to have

his

> opinion even though he's got no valid arguments.

>

> I once read a book by an englishman who had interviewed the residents on

the

> death row. One of them had discovered that immediately after an execution

> there were more murders than usual.

>

> Must be this " 15 Minutes of Fame " -effect. People will obviously do

anything

> to get into the media.

>

> Well, but the cannibals on New Guinea have stopped their brain eating and

by

> this reduced the incidence of Kreutzfeldt-s disease (cow madness) to

a

> minimum.

>

> Obviously they can be reasoned with, even though their habit must have

been

> deep rooted in their culture. Why can't the americans? (Sorry, but

sometimes

> I can't resist teasing you folks. But if you choose to be mad at me I can

> only say muuuhh!)

>

> Bjørn

>

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June 30, 2000

-: Disco demolition was at Comiskey Park, not Wrigley Field!

-- In 12-step-freeegroups, " Arroyo " <arroyoh@h...> wrote:

> And you totally missed the point.

> I'm quite capable of seeing the shit in my own back yard especially

with

> other people the news media and papers reminding me of it on a

daily basis.

> And yes my high school had it's share of riots over idiotic shit.

I've also

> lived in two cities that have had the dubious distinction of being

the

> murder capital of the US through the years and subsequently

attempted to

> live up to the distinction. I was at the Disco Sucks Rock & Roll

forever

> riot during the double header at Wrigley Field mostly dodging

LP's. So I

> can speak first hand on the subject of asinine Sports riots.

>

> I was pointing out that shit happens everywhere.

>

> What I was doing J was the same thing that Pete, Joe and Bjorn did

which is

> ignoring their own back yard to poke fun at our'n. Overlooking

some of the

> shit in my own backyard was exactly what I was going for. Like

Bjorn I was

> going for humor. The muuuhaahaa should have been a dead give away.

>

> One more thing. About the only thing saying I didn't know shit

about sports

> riots did was almost get you a shitty response..

>

> Re: Re: EXECUTION, Pete

> >

> > Hi Pete

> >

> > Very well put. But it seems futile to discuss these matters with

a person

> > that doesn't respond to arguments. As Carey says. He's entitled

to have

> his

> > opinion even though he's got no valid arguments.

> >

> > I once read a book by an englishman who had interviewed the

residents on

> the

> > death row. One of them had discovered that immediately after an

execution

> > there were more murders than usual.

> >

> > Must be this " 15 Minutes of Fame " -effect. People will obviously do

> anything

> > to get into the media.

> >

> > Well, but the cannibals on New Guinea have stopped their brain

eating and

> by

> > this reduced the incidence of Kreutzfeldt-s disease (cow

madness) to

> a

> > minimum.

> >

> > Obviously they can be reasoned with, even though their habit must

have

> been

> > deep rooted in their culture. Why can't the americans? (Sorry, but

> sometimes

> > I can't resist teasing you folks. But if you choose to be mad at

me I can

> > only say muuuhh!)

> >

> > Bjørn

> >

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June 30, 2000

I recommend a poke at Russia for diversion here -- new page at

http://www.geocities.com/bouglaf/putinbomb.html

--though the bomb and the band are " made in USA " . The USA used to do a VERY

classy H-bomb, though the Russians do hold the world record. Britain has

the record for dropping accuracy -- within 90 yards of target from 45,000

feet (about). Learn all this and more at Gallery Bouglaf, also featuring

ruthlessly destructive thermo-weirdo anti stepNazi humour. Britain has only

itself to blame for the US of A!

.

>

>Reply-To: 12-step-freeegroups

>To: " 12-Step-Free " <12-step-freeegroups>

>Subject: EXECUTION of Pete, Bjorn and Joe

>Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:06:48 -0500

>

>Alright guys. I'm tired of this Americana bashing already.

>

>We may be way out there some times, like with XA, but lets face it, it's

>gaining a foothold elsewhere and those aren't Americans attending those

>meetings and spreading the gospel according to St. Bill.

>

>In terms of culture we're still a young nation not stodgy like some appear.

>Young and vital which is probably why American pop culture sells so well

>overseas.

>

>We may be exporting some of our lunacy with our genius but there seems to

>be

>a market for both outside of the US.

>

>One last thing. Been to any good football games lately gentlemen?

>Recently

>my Tele's been displaying some before and after game sporting by

>spectators.

>Talk about violence.

>

>Usually when we riot here it's some pretty small things that have been

>going

>on like someone's killed, huge miscarriage of justice racial and otherwise,

>the WTO's outrageous policies. You know little things. I wish we could

>get

>on the earth shattering events like my team is better than your team riot

>bandwagon.

>

>MUUUUUUUUUHAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAA!

>

>I can sit through most of the US bashing because we are kind of out there

>but it's been getting kind of rampant of late.

>

>On last thing. Really this time:

>

>My country is bigger'n your'n. : 0 =

>

> Re: Re: EXECUTION, Pete

>

>Hi Pete

>

>Very well put. But it seems futile to discuss these matters with a person

>that doesn't respond to arguments. As Carey says. He's entitled to have his

>opinion even though he's got no valid arguments.

>

>I once read a book by an englishman who had interviewed the residents on

>the

>death row. One of them had discovered that immediately after an execution

>there were more murders than usual.

>

>Must be this " 15 Minutes of Fame " -effect. People will obviously do anything

>to get into the media.

>

>Well, but the cannibals on New Guinea have stopped their brain eating and

>by

>this reduced the incidence of Kreutzfeldt-s disease (cow madness) to a

>minimum.

>

>Obviously they can be reasoned with, even though their habit must have been

>deep rooted in their culture. Why can't the americans? (Sorry, but

>sometimes

>I can't resist teasing you folks. But if you choose to be mad at me I can

>only say muuuhh!)

>

>Bjørn

>

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June 30, 2000

Sir, I submit that these men stand convicted of no worse crime than being

European (though the Brits might not agree on that one) and that, all men

being famously created equal, they are no equally badder than USAs. If

sentence is carried out on these men, Europe should place rigid cultural

sanctions on US bubble-gum for up to thirty years. Sir, I remain yours more

or less legally,

D. Houston.

>

>Reply-To: 12-step-freeegroups

>To: 12-step-freeegroups

>Subject: Re: EXECUTION of Pete, Bjorn and Joe

>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:42:55 -0000

>

>-: Disco demolition was at Comiskey Park, not Wrigley Field!

>

>-- In 12-step-freeegroups, " Arroyo " <arroyoh@h...> wrote:

> > And you totally missed the point.

> > I'm quite capable of seeing the shit in my own back yard especially

>with

> > other people the news media and papers reminding me of it on a

>daily basis.

> > And yes my high school had it's share of riots over idiotic shit.

>I've also

> > lived in two cities that have had the dubious distinction of being

>the

> > murder capital of the US through the years and subsequently

>attempted to

> > live up to the distinction. I was at the Disco Sucks Rock & Roll

>forever

> > riot during the double header at Wrigley Field mostly dodging

>LP's. So I

> > can speak first hand on the subject of asinine Sports riots.

> >

> > I was pointing out that shit happens everywhere.

> >

> > What I was doing J was the same thing that Pete, Joe and Bjorn did

>which is

> > ignoring their own back yard to poke fun at our'n. Overlooking

>some of the

> > shit in my own backyard was exactly what I was going for. Like

>Bjorn I was

> > going for humor. The muuuhaahaa should have been a dead give away.

> >

> > One more thing. About the only thing saying I didn't know shit

>about sports

> > riots did was almost get you a shitty response..

> >

> > Re: Re: EXECUTION, Pete

> > >

> > > Hi Pete

> > >

> > > Very well put. But it seems futile to discuss these matters with

>a person

> > > that doesn't respond to arguments. As Carey says. He's entitled

>to have

> > his

> > > opinion even though he's got no valid arguments.

> > >

> > > I once read a book by an englishman who had interviewed the

>residents on

> > the

> > > death row. One of them had discovered that immediately after an

>execution

> > > there were more murders than usual.

> > >

> > > Must be this " 15 Minutes of Fame " -effect. People will obviously do

> > anything

> > > to get into the media.

> > >

> > > Well, but the cannibals on New Guinea have stopped their brain

>eating and

> > by

> > > this reduced the incidence of Kreutzfeldt-s disease (cow

>madness) to

> > a

> > > minimum.

> > >

> > > Obviously they can be reasoned with, even though their habit must

>have

> > been

> > > deep rooted in their culture. Why can't the americans? (Sorry, but

> > sometimes

> > > I can't resist teasing you folks. But if you choose to be mad at

>me I can

> > > only say muuuhh!)

> > >

> > > Bjørn

> > >

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June 30, 2000

Thanks I was a pre-teen when I attended. Had to call off the second game.

It really wasn't so bad except for the people that got lobbed in the head

with lps.

Re: Re: EXECUTION, Pete

> >

> > Hi Pete

> >

> > Very well put. But it seems futile to discuss these matters with

a person

> > that doesn't respond to arguments. As Carey says. He's entitled

to have

> his

> > opinion even though he's got no valid arguments.

> >

> > I once read a book by an englishman who had interviewed the

residents on

> the

> > death row. One of them had discovered that immediately after an

execution

> > there were more murders than usual.

> >

> > Must be this " 15 Minutes of Fame " -effect. People will obviously do

> anything

> > to get into the media.

> >

> > Well, but the cannibals on New Guinea have stopped their brain

eating and

> by

> > this reduced the incidence of Kreutzfeldt-s disease (cow

madness) to

> a

> > minimum.

> >

> > Obviously they can be reasoned with, even though their habit must

have

> been

> > deep rooted in their culture. Why can't the americans? (Sorry, but

> sometimes

> > I can't resist teasing you folks. But if you choose to be mad at

me I can

> > only say muuuhh!)

> >

> > Bjørn

> >

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July 1, 2000

Right Joe!

We have rights too. During my 15 years I want the best pizza in town. A new

every day.

Don't think that's to much Just ask Pete!

Bjørn

" Joe B. " wrote:

> It was with great regret that I heard that I am to be executed.

> Nevertheless I must admit it has a feeling of inevitability about it; I did

> after all criticise aspects of the US political system, and I do understand

> that an example must be set for others. All that I ask now is that I get

> the same romantic options as other death row inhabitants, namely to have

> some woman to correspond with, to visit me, and to marry me while I am

> still alive and to declare in tv interviews thereafter that she is " sure I

> didn't really do it " . That isn't too much to ask for, surely. Oh, and that

> during my 15-year stay, whenever I go for a walk, someone says " Dead men

> walking " . I've always thought that was a scream. Obviously they didn't see

> the Romero movies.

>

> Joe B.

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Arroyo wrote:

>

> And you totally missed the point.

> I'm quite capable of seeing the shit in my own back yard especially with

> other people the news media and papers reminding me of it on a daily basis.

> And yes my high school had it's share of riots over idiotic shit. I've also

> lived in two cities that have had the dubious distinction of being the

> murder capital of the US through the years and subsequently attempted to

> live up to the distinction. I was at the Disco Sucks Rock & Roll forever

> riot during the double header at Wrigley Field mostly dodging LP's. So I

> can speak first hand on the subject of asinine Sports riots.

>

> I was pointing out that shit happens everywhere.

>

> What I was doing J was the same thing that Pete, Joe and Bjorn did which is

> ignoring their own back yard to poke fun at our'n. Overlooking some of the

> shit in my own backyard was exactly what I was going for. Like Bjorn I was

> going for humor. The muuuhaahaa should have been a dead give away.

>

> One more thing. About the only thing saying I didn't know shit about sports

> riots did was almost get you a shitty response..

Sorry, I don't think rioting is something to joke about. If you do,

then as I said you don't know shit about riots. Same goes for the death

penalty - its not funny.

July 1, 2000

Yes you are aren't you.

PLONK!

Re: EXECUTION of Pete, Bjorn and Joe

Sorry,.....

July 1, 2000

LOL;

Looks like you finally got around to reading some of the messages you missed

out on.

Re: EXECUTION of Pete, Bjorn and Joe

Right Joe!

We have rights too. During my 15 years I want the best pizza in town. A new

every day.

Don't think that's to much Just ask Pete!

Bjørn

July 1, 2000

Hi Joe.

You know, even if you were guilty you could probably get a jail house

wedding out of the deal. It's not uncommon here.

Re: EXECUTION of Pete, Bjorn and Joe

It was with great regret that I heard that I am to be executed.

Nevertheless I must admit it has a feeling of inevitability about it; I did

after all criticise aspects of the US political system, and I do understand

that an example must be set for others. All that I ask now is that I get

the same romantic options as other death row inhabitants, namely to have

some woman to correspond with, to visit me, and to marry me while I am

still alive and to declare in tv interviews thereafter that she is " sure I

didn't really do it " . That isn't too much to ask for, surely. Oh, and that

during my 15-year stay, whenever I go for a walk, someone says " Dead men

walking " . I've always thought that was a scream. Obviously they didn't see

the Romero movies.

Joe B.

July 1, 2000