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I AM SO MAD I COULD SCREAM!! MY INSURANCE COMPANY UNITED HEALTHCARE OF NC HAS

FINALLY SAID TO ME THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE ME ANY INFO AND THE FACT THE

MY DOCTORS OFFICE HAS FAXED IN THE INFO MEANS NOTHING SOMEONE NEEDS TO TALK TO

HEALTH SERVICES AND IT HAS TO BE THE DOCTORS OFFICE AND NOT ME. I CONTACTED

DEBBIE AT DR RUTLEDGE'S OFFICE AND SHE TOLD ME SHE CALL WHEN SHE GETS AROUND TO

IT. OOOOHHHH I CANT TAKE IT ANY MORE . ITS LIKE A PLOT TO SEE HOW HARD EVERY PER

SON CAN MAKE IT FOR ME. HAS ANY ONE OUT THERE HAD UNITED HEALTHCARE OF NC OR

ALLIANCE PPO (MAPSI) THIS IS MY SECONDARY INSURANCE AND BEEN APPROVED PLEASE LET

ME KNOW I WOULD APPRICIATE IT. ALSO FOR ANY ONE INTERESTED I WAS TRYING TO GO

WITH THE VOCATIONAL REHABILITION AND THAT WAS LOOKING PROMISING UNTIL I ASKED

DR RUTLEDGE WAS HE A VENDOR. HE THEN EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THEY ONLY PAY THE

MEDICAID RATE WHICH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1000 AND THAT ALTHOUGH

HE HAS DONE IT IN THE PAST (CHARITY CASES) HE LOSES MONEY ON IT EVERY TIME AS

WELL AS THE HOSPITAL. SO I QUESS THATS OUT. I HOPE I CAN HOLD OUT MUCH LONGER.

HAS ANYONE THAT HAD A CLINIC VISIT WEEK BEFORE LAST BEEN APPROVED. LET ME KNOW

PLEASE

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In a message dated 09/28/1999 4:44:15 PM Central Daylight Time,

flowers@... writes:

<< If the person is ugly towards you wait until

lunch time she will be covered by someone else and then get your info. If

you are waiting for a letter of approval...........DON'T. >>

I got the same reaction with UHC Carlissa. They acted really rude and they

said that the doctor seeking the approval should call. They acted like my

calling wasn't necessary. When I finally got this one lady she told me I was

approved (she was very polite and nice) and I asked her about a letter and

she said they should be receiving it any day now...that was last Monday. I

guess I will call again in the morning and hound for a letter or something.

Rae

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Kim,

Hi, It's Amber. I know you are going crazy with your

insurance situation. Hang in there! I haven't heard

from my insurance yet either so I am waiting

too...You're not alone! I am on pins and needles! I

am crossing my fingers, toes and knees for both of us.

Let me know as soon as you hear some good news or a

final answer from either your primary or your

secondary insurance. I am praying that it will all

come thru for you w/o too many further headaches.

I'll call you as soon as I hear something about my

insurance too...I am still hoping that we can have

surgery around the same time so that we can 'compare

notes'. Try not to go too crazy and remember to use

all the frustration that you're feeling to fuel

yourself into getting this stuff pushed through! Good

luck!

Call me if I can help with something....

Amber

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" Gratitude is the beginning of all wisdom. " -Cicero

" I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has

endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended

us to forego their use. " -Galileo Galilei

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Calm down!!! They are just messing with your head.The people at UHC are

very nasty but, I lucked up and talked to a new girl and she told me

everything that I needed to know. Yes I went through the same routine with

them and Debbie. Debbie is swamped with work and I offered to come down on

my days off to help her out but ,.................. Anyway. Tomorrow

morning get on the phone and call medical management and ask about the

status of your predetermination. They told me that I did not need to call

them because that was the Dr's responsibility. Just take matters into your

own hands and call anyway. If the person is ugly towards you wait until

lunch time she will be covered by someone else and then get your info. If

you are waiting for a letter of approval...........DON'T. I was informed

that they do not send out letters. These people act like it's their money.

Let them know that you pay your premiums and that you do not appreciate

being treated like a gutter rat. It may sound funny but I am serious. They

have the right to inform you of whatever they want to but, they are not

supposed to act ugly.

Carlissa

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> From: kimorris_tpe2000@...

> To: MiniGastricBypassonelist

> Subject: insurance foes

> Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 9:16 PM

>

> From: kimorris_tpe2000@...

>

> I AM SO MAD I COULD SCREAM!! MY INSURANCE COMPANY UNITED HEALTHCARE OF NC

HAS

> FINALLY SAID TO ME THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE ME ANY INFO AND THE

FACT THE

> MY DOCTORS OFFICE HAS FAXED IN THE INFO MEANS NOTHING SOMEONE NEEDS TO

TALK TO

> HEALTH SERVICES AND IT HAS TO BE THE DOCTORS OFFICE AND NOT ME. I

CONTACTED

> DEBBIE AT DR RUTLEDGE'S OFFICE AND SHE TOLD ME SHE CALL WHEN SHE GETS

AROUND TO

> IT. OOOOHHHH I CANT TAKE IT ANY MORE . ITS LIKE A PLOT TO SEE HOW HARD

EVERY PER

> SON CAN MAKE IT FOR ME. HAS ANY ONE OUT THERE HAD UNITED HEALTHCARE OF NC

OR

> ALLIANCE PPO (MAPSI) THIS IS MY SECONDARY INSURANCE AND BEEN APPROVED

PLEASE LET

> ME KNOW I WOULD APPRICIATE IT. ALSO FOR ANY ONE INTERESTED I WAS TRYING

TO GO

> WITH THE VOCATIONAL REHABILITION AND THAT WAS LOOKING PROMISING UNTIL I

ASKED

> DR RUTLEDGE WAS HE A VENDOR. HE THEN EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THEY ONLY PAY

THE

> MEDICAID RATE WHICH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1000 AND THAT

ALTHOUGH

> HE HAS DONE IT IN THE PAST (CHARITY CASES) HE LOSES MONEY ON IT EVERY

TIME AS

> WELL AS THE HOSPITAL. SO I QUESS THATS OUT. I HOPE I CAN HOLD OUT MUCH

LONGER.

> HAS ANYONE THAT HAD A CLINIC VISIT WEEK BEFORE LAST BEEN APPROVED. LET ME

KNOW

> PLEASE

>

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

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Thank you but, the praise goes to God. He gives me the words of

encouragement to pass on to others. You know about 6 years ago I worked for

2 physicians and some of their patients came into the office constantly.

The doc would get to the point of just basically writing prescriptions and

pushing them out the door. I would always attempted to spend a few extra

minutes with those people because I knew that what they really needed was

love and attention. It never hurts any of us to listen and help out in any

way possible. When we do this we are doing God's work. That's my theory. I

feel like I have found a home hear because I understand the pain of the

people that I talk to . Our world is very different and I am sure that you

know that already. We have gone through sooooooooooooo much. LISTEN I did

not mean to go into a song and dance routine. Sometimes I tend to ramble on

an on. Anyway , I hope that we will all be able to show support now and

after we reach our goals.

Carlissa

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> From: Deckbound@...

> To: MiniGastricBypassonelist

> Subject: Re: insurance foes

> Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 11:50 PM

>

> From: Deckbound@...

>

> Yea for Carlissa!!! You are the world's best coach!!! I hear by give

you

> the coach of the year award. in Mo

>

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

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Hi Kim,

You sound so down. I'm sorry. Just keep after Debbie to call the insurance

co. It is tough and you do get discouraged a lot......Just be committed and

keep on keeping on!

It was nice to talk with you last week. Hope to meet you soon. I plan on

being at the Oct. 2 clinic. Can I get a roll call? Anyone else gonna be

there?

da

SD May 19 318

Sept 19 258 60 lbs in 4 months.........Thank the Lord!

insurance foes

From: kimorris_tpe2000@...

I AM SO MAD I COULD SCREAM!! MY INSURANCE COMPANY UNITED HEALTHCARE OF NC

HAS

FINALLY SAID TO ME THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE ME ANY INFO AND THE FACT

THE

MY DOCTORS OFFICE HAS FAXED IN THE INFO MEANS NOTHING SOMEONE NEEDS TO TALK

TO

HEALTH SERVICES AND IT HAS TO BE THE DOCTORS OFFICE AND NOT ME. I CONTACTED

DEBBIE AT DR RUTLEDGE'S OFFICE AND SHE TOLD ME SHE CALL WHEN SHE GETS AROUND

TO

IT. OOOOHHHH I CANT TAKE IT ANY MORE . ITS LIKE A PLOT TO SEE HOW HARD EVERY

PER

SON CAN MAKE IT FOR ME. HAS ANY ONE OUT THERE HAD UNITED HEALTHCARE OF NC OR

ALLIANCE PPO (MAPSI) THIS IS MY SECONDARY INSURANCE AND BEEN APPROVED PLEASE

LET

ME KNOW I WOULD APPRICIATE IT. ALSO FOR ANY ONE INTERESTED I WAS TRYING TO

GO

WITH THE VOCATIONAL REHABILITION AND THAT WAS LOOKING PROMISING UNTIL I

ASKED

DR RUTLEDGE WAS HE A VENDOR. HE THEN EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THEY ONLY PAY THE

MEDICAID RATE WHICH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1000 AND THAT

ALTHOUGH

HE HAS DONE IT IN THE PAST (CHARITY CASES) HE LOSES MONEY ON IT EVERY TIME

AS

WELL AS THE HOSPITAL. SO I QUESS THATS OUT. I HOPE I CAN HOLD OUT MUCH

LONGER.

HAS ANYONE THAT HAD A CLINIC VISIT WEEK BEFORE LAST BEEN APPROVED. LET ME

KNOW

PLEASE

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So you are going to be there!....I did tell you my date for surgery is Oct

6th?

Becky Fowler

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> insurance foes

>

>

> From: kimorris_tpe2000@...

>

> I AM SO MAD I COULD SCREAM!! MY INSURANCE COMPANY UNITED HEALTHCARE OF NC

> HAS

> FINALLY SAID TO ME THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE ME ANY INFO AND THE

> FACT

> THE

> MY DOCTORS OFFICE HAS FAXED IN THE INFO MEANS NOTHING SOMEONE NEEDS TO

> TALK

> TO

> HEALTH SERVICES AND IT HAS TO BE THE DOCTORS OFFICE AND NOT ME. I

> CONTACTED

> DEBBIE AT DR RUTLEDGE'S OFFICE AND SHE TOLD ME SHE CALL WHEN SHE GETS

> AROUND

> TO

> IT. OOOOHHHH I CANT TAKE IT ANY MORE . ITS LIKE A PLOT TO SEE HOW HARD

> EVERY

> PER

> SON CAN MAKE IT FOR ME. HAS ANY ONE OUT THERE HAD UNITED HEALTHCARE OF NC

> OR

> ALLIANCE PPO (MAPSI) THIS IS MY SECONDARY INSURANCE AND BEEN APPROVED

> PLEASE

> LET

> ME KNOW I WOULD APPRICIATE IT. ALSO FOR ANY ONE INTERESTED I WAS TRYING TO

> GO

> WITH THE VOCATIONAL REHABILITION AND THAT WAS LOOKING PROMISING UNTIL I

> ASKED

> DR RUTLEDGE WAS HE A VENDOR. HE THEN EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THEY ONLY PAY

> THE

> MEDICAID RATE WHICH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1000 AND THAT

> ALTHOUGH

> HE HAS DONE IT IN THE PAST (CHARITY CASES) HE LOSES MONEY ON IT EVERY TIME

> AS

> WELL AS THE HOSPITAL. SO I QUESS THATS OUT. I HOPE I CAN HOLD OUT MUCH

> LONGER.

> HAS ANYONE THAT HAD A CLINIC VISIT WEEK BEFORE LAST BEEN APPROVED. LET ME

> KNOW

> PLEASE

>

> This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

>

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

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Becky,

Me and the kids will be there with bells on.........

da

insurance foes

>

>

> From: kimorris_tpe2000@...

>

> I AM SO MAD I COULD SCREAM!! MY INSURANCE COMPANY UNITED HEALTHCARE OF NC

> HAS

> FINALLY SAID TO ME THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE ME ANY INFO AND THE

> FACT

> THE

> MY DOCTORS OFFICE HAS FAXED IN THE INFO MEANS NOTHING SOMEONE NEEDS TO

> TALK

> TO

> HEALTH SERVICES AND IT HAS TO BE THE DOCTORS OFFICE AND NOT ME. I

> CONTACTED

> DEBBIE AT DR RUTLEDGE'S OFFICE AND SHE TOLD ME SHE CALL WHEN SHE GETS

> AROUND

> TO

> IT. OOOOHHHH I CANT TAKE IT ANY MORE . ITS LIKE A PLOT TO SEE HOW HARD

> EVERY

> PER

> SON CAN MAKE IT FOR ME. HAS ANY ONE OUT THERE HAD UNITED HEALTHCARE OF NC

> OR

> ALLIANCE PPO (MAPSI) THIS IS MY SECONDARY INSURANCE AND BEEN APPROVED

> PLEASE

> LET

> ME KNOW I WOULD APPRICIATE IT. ALSO FOR ANY ONE INTERESTED I WAS TRYING TO

> GO

> WITH THE VOCATIONAL REHABILITION AND THAT WAS LOOKING PROMISING UNTIL I

> ASKED

> DR RUTLEDGE WAS HE A VENDOR. HE THEN EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THEY ONLY PAY

> THE

> MEDICAID RATE WHICH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1000 AND THAT

> ALTHOUGH

> HE HAS DONE IT IN THE PAST (CHARITY CASES) HE LOSES MONEY ON IT EVERY TIME

> AS

> WELL AS THE HOSPITAL. SO I QUESS THATS OUT. I HOPE I CAN HOLD OUT MUCH

> LONGER.

> HAS ANYONE THAT HAD A CLINIC VISIT WEEK BEFORE LAST BEEN APPROVED. LET ME

> KNOW

> PLEASE

>

> This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

>

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

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Good then my kids can meet your kids....I'm working with them tomorrow night

on their letter of support. I showed the surgery to them on

line...Wow...Thanks for all the support the last couple of weeks....I'll see

you Saturday morning.

Becky Fowler

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> insurance foes

> >

> >

> > From: kimorris_tpe2000@...

> >

> > I AM SO MAD I COULD SCREAM!! MY INSURANCE COMPANY UNITED HEALTHCARE OF

> NC

> > HAS

> > FINALLY SAID TO ME THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE ME ANY INFO AND THE

> > FACT

> > THE

> > MY DOCTORS OFFICE HAS FAXED IN THE INFO MEANS NOTHING SOMEONE NEEDS TO

> > TALK

> > TO

> > HEALTH SERVICES AND IT HAS TO BE THE DOCTORS OFFICE AND NOT ME. I

> > CONTACTED

> > DEBBIE AT DR RUTLEDGE'S OFFICE AND SHE TOLD ME SHE CALL WHEN SHE GETS

> > AROUND

> > TO

> > IT. OOOOHHHH I CANT TAKE IT ANY MORE . ITS LIKE A PLOT TO SEE HOW HARD

> > EVERY

> > PER

> > SON CAN MAKE IT FOR ME. HAS ANY ONE OUT THERE HAD UNITED HEALTHCARE OF

> NC

> > OR

> > ALLIANCE PPO (MAPSI) THIS IS MY SECONDARY INSURANCE AND BEEN APPROVED

> > PLEASE

> > LET

> > ME KNOW I WOULD APPRICIATE IT. ALSO FOR ANY ONE INTERESTED I WAS TRYING

> TO

> > GO

> > WITH THE VOCATIONAL REHABILITION AND THAT WAS LOOKING PROMISING UNTIL I

> > ASKED

> > DR RUTLEDGE WAS HE A VENDOR. HE THEN EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THEY ONLY PAY

> > THE

> > MEDICAID RATE WHICH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1000 AND THAT

> > ALTHOUGH

> > HE HAS DONE IT IN THE PAST (CHARITY CASES) HE LOSES MONEY ON IT EVERY

> TIME

> > AS

> > WELL AS THE HOSPITAL. SO I QUESS THATS OUT. I HOPE I CAN HOLD OUT MUCH

> > LONGER.

> > HAS ANYONE THAT HAD A CLINIC VISIT WEEK BEFORE LAST BEEN APPROVED. LET

> ME

> > KNOW

> > PLEASE

> >

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

> >

> > > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

>

> This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

>

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

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Sounds great there won't be to many more " lunch plans " for me. But this

will be the smallest sacrifice for a healthy life don't you think?

Becky Fowler

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> insurance foes

> > >

> > >

> > > From: kimorris_tpe2000@...

> > >

> > > I AM SO MAD I COULD SCREAM!! MY INSURANCE COMPANY UNITED HEALTHCARE OF

> > NC

> > > HAS

> > > FINALLY SAID TO ME THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE ME ANY INFO AND THE

> > > FACT

> > > THE

> > > MY DOCTORS OFFICE HAS FAXED IN THE INFO MEANS NOTHING SOMEONE NEEDS TO

> > > TALK

> > > TO

> > > HEALTH SERVICES AND IT HAS TO BE THE DOCTORS OFFICE AND NOT ME. I

> > > CONTACTED

> > > DEBBIE AT DR RUTLEDGE'S OFFICE AND SHE TOLD ME SHE CALL WHEN SHE GETS

> > > AROUND

> > > TO

> > > IT. OOOOHHHH I CANT TAKE IT ANY MORE . ITS LIKE A PLOT TO SEE HOW HARD

> > > EVERY

> > > PER

> > > SON CAN MAKE IT FOR ME. HAS ANY ONE OUT THERE HAD UNITED HEALTHCARE OF

> > NC

> > > OR

> > > ALLIANCE PPO (MAPSI) THIS IS MY SECONDARY INSURANCE AND BEEN APPROVED

> > > PLEASE

> > > LET

> > > ME KNOW I WOULD APPRICIATE IT. ALSO FOR ANY ONE INTERESTED I WAS

> TRYING

> > TO

> > > GO

> > > WITH THE VOCATIONAL REHABILITION AND THAT WAS LOOKING PROMISING UNTIL

> I

> > > ASKED

> > > DR RUTLEDGE WAS HE A VENDOR. HE THEN EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THEY ONLY

> PAY

> > > THE

> > > MEDICAID RATE WHICH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1000 AND THAT

> > > ALTHOUGH

> > > HE HAS DONE IT IN THE PAST (CHARITY CASES) HE LOSES MONEY ON IT EVERY

> > TIME

> > > AS

> > > WELL AS THE HOSPITAL. SO I QUESS THATS OUT. I HOPE I CAN HOLD OUT MUCH

> > > LONGER.

> > > HAS ANYONE THAT HAD A CLINIC VISIT WEEK BEFORE LAST BEEN APPROVED. LET

> > ME

> > > KNOW

> > > PLEASE

> > >

> > > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

> > >

> > > > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

> >

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

> >

> > > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

>

> This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

>

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

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Sounds great Becky. Maybe we can get lunch in as well.

da

insurance foes

> >

> >

> > From: kimorris_tpe2000@...

> >

> > I AM SO MAD I COULD SCREAM!! MY INSURANCE COMPANY UNITED HEALTHCARE OF

> NC

> > HAS

> > FINALLY SAID TO ME THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE ME ANY INFO AND THE

> > FACT

> > THE

> > MY DOCTORS OFFICE HAS FAXED IN THE INFO MEANS NOTHING SOMEONE NEEDS TO

> > TALK

> > TO

> > HEALTH SERVICES AND IT HAS TO BE THE DOCTORS OFFICE AND NOT ME. I

> > CONTACTED

> > DEBBIE AT DR RUTLEDGE'S OFFICE AND SHE TOLD ME SHE CALL WHEN SHE GETS

> > AROUND

> > TO

> > IT. OOOOHHHH I CANT TAKE IT ANY MORE . ITS LIKE A PLOT TO SEE HOW HARD

> > EVERY

> > PER

> > SON CAN MAKE IT FOR ME. HAS ANY ONE OUT THERE HAD UNITED HEALTHCARE OF

> NC

> > OR

> > ALLIANCE PPO (MAPSI) THIS IS MY SECONDARY INSURANCE AND BEEN APPROVED

> > PLEASE

> > LET

> > ME KNOW I WOULD APPRICIATE IT. ALSO FOR ANY ONE INTERESTED I WAS TRYING

> TO

> > GO

> > WITH THE VOCATIONAL REHABILITION AND THAT WAS LOOKING PROMISING UNTIL I

> > ASKED

> > DR RUTLEDGE WAS HE A VENDOR. HE THEN EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THEY ONLY PAY

> > THE

> > MEDICAID RATE WHICH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1000 AND THAT

> > ALTHOUGH

> > HE HAS DONE IT IN THE PAST (CHARITY CASES) HE LOSES MONEY ON IT EVERY

> TIME

> > AS

> > WELL AS THE HOSPITAL. SO I QUESS THATS OUT. I HOPE I CAN HOLD OUT MUCH

> > LONGER.

> > HAS ANYONE THAT HAD A CLINIC VISIT WEEK BEFORE LAST BEEN APPROVED. LET

> ME

> > KNOW

> > PLEASE

> >

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

> >

> > > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

>

> This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

>

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

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