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I'll answer in private.

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> Bruce,

>

> Hardly anyone posts on the other group. Has this group always had the

> most messages posted on the board? Does , who moderates the

> other group have pulmonary fibrosis? At this point I don't think so

> because I can just tell by what she writes in her messages. Maybe I

am

> wrong. What is your opinion?

>

> Toodles!

>

> Jane UIP/IPF 12/1998 Dalton, Georgia aka pianolady_musicgirl

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I can't give medical advice but...

If you had high blood pressure would you have a device at home to check

it?

If you have diabetes do you have testing equipment at home?

If you think you might have a fever, do you have a thermometer to check?

If you answered those, now I ask:

If you have PF should you have an oximeter?

If you answered the first three questions " yes " , how could you not

answer the last one " yes " as well.

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> I just read your last post. I am going to order an oximeter online,

> the heck with the pulmo. Do you think I should?

> mlp

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Bruce,

I have a job for you. Someone mentioned a heated humidifier bottle to me today.

My problem. Because I keep my mama ships in the garage and the weather has been cold my humidifier bottle is freezing into ice. The Apria guy said that the 02 coming out is below 0. So, even when it is 40 degrees it is going to freeze up.

My nose is bleeding and with all this blood thinner, not a good thing.

See if you can find on the net a heated humidifier high flow water bottle. That would be so good.

Or maybe someone has an idea or a solution. My nose is begging you.

Please do not suggest bringing a mother ship inside. We have taken our daughter and her five children in and we have no room for anything. Bodies are everywhere.

Hugs, Joyce D.

Pulmonary Fibrosis 1997 Bronchiectasis 2004 Pulmonary Hypertension 2008 Mixed Connective Tissue Disease (Lupus, RA, Sjogren's, etc) Rejected for Transplant 2006

I will not forget you...Behold, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands. Isaiah 49:15-16

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Put the daughter in the garage....lol

Ok, bad idea.

I shall search. They have them for CPAP's and such but I haven't seen

for oxygen.

The other idea is to find a way to heat the area. Some form of safe,

spark free heater in the garage, not trying to get it up to 70 degrees,

but just warmed up some. Even better if you could somehow wall off the

small area where the tanks are and heat or insulate.

Now I also have another wild idea. I may test this one. Who says the

humidifier has to be at the reservoir itself. What if there was a short

tube inside and then somehow the humidifier. I know that could have been

done on a concentrator although don't know the risk of water in the

line. Not sure how one would attach on the reservoirs.

I will see if I can find anything or any ideas.

>

>

> Bruce,

>

> I have a job for you. Someone mentioned a heated humidifier bottle to

> me today.

>

> My problem. Because I keep my mama ships in the garage and the weather

> has been cold my humidifier bottle is freezing into ice. The Apria guy

> said that the 02 coming out is below 0. So, even when it is 40 degrees

> it is going to freeze up.

>

> My nose is bleeding and with all this blood thinner, not a good thing.

>

> See if you can find on the net a heated humidifier high flow water

> bottle. That would be so good.

>

> Or maybe someone has an idea or a solution. My nose is begging you.

>

> Please do not suggest bringing a mother ship inside. We have taken our

> daughter and her five children in and we have no room for anything.

> Bodies are everywhere.

>

> Hugs, Joyce D.

>

> Pulmonary Fibrosis 1997 Bronchiectasis 2004 Pulmonary Hypertension

> 2008 Mixed Connective Tissue Disease

> (Lupus, RA, Sjogren's, etc) Rejected for Transplant 2006

>

> I will not forget you...Behold, I have engraved you on the palms of my

> hands. Isaiah 49:15-16

>

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Joyce

I don't have any answers yet but sure have questions developing. Going

to pursue until at least I get told " no " enough times by supplierss.

Seems HudsonRCI has some humidification systems of some sort but perhaps

more some connectors that might allow moving the humidifier inside.

Also, there are heated humification systems for other applications that

might be adaptable. The obvious is CPAP but that may or may not adapt.

But there are also oxygen systems for both hospitals and EMS.

Also, I have found various humidifiers I haven't previously seen. They

type bottles we have are always referred to as disposable. However,

there are larger bottles and different bottles that are dishwashable.

Also, there are prefilled bottles with sterile solution. Now, the reason

both of those are interesting is that I found many reports all

indicating a huge percentage of home humidifiers being found with

bacteria.

So, all I really know about it at this point is that there is so much

more out there to learn and I intend to over the next few days.

>

>

> Bruce,

>

> I have a job for you. Someone mentioned a heated humidifier bottle to

> me today.

>

> My problem. Because I keep my mama ships in the garage and the weather

> has been cold my humidifier bottle is freezing into ice. The Apria guy

> said that the 02 coming out is below 0. So, even when it is 40 degrees

> it is going to freeze up.

>

> My nose is bleeding and with all this blood thinner, not a good thing.

>

> See if you can find on the net a heated humidifier high flow water

> bottle. That would be so good.

>

> Or maybe someone has an idea or a solution. My nose is begging you.

>

> Please do not suggest bringing a mother ship inside. We have taken our

> daughter and her five children in and we have no room for anything.

> Bodies are everywhere.

>

> Hugs, Joyce D.

>

> Pulmonary Fibrosis 1997 Bronchiectasis 2004 Pulmonary Hypertension

> 2008 Mixed Connective Tissue Disease

> (Lupus, RA, Sjogren's, etc) Rejected for Transplant 2006

>

> I will not forget you...Behold, I have engraved you on the palms of my

> hands. Isaiah 49:15-16

>

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Bruce,

I thought of the bottle inside. We have the tubing coming through the wall near the floor. But, I can't figure out how to hook the thingy on the top. If my brain would clear I might could think of something. Ever since my hospital stay and all these new meds, I have been in a state of confusion. It is difficult for me to work things out. I'm usually good at that stuff.

Keep thinking.

Hugs, Joyce D.

Pulmonary Fibrosis 1997 Bronchiectasis 2004 Pulmonary Hypertension 2008 Mixed Connective Tissue Disease (Lupus, RA, Sjogren's, etc) Rejected for Transplant 2006

I will not forget you...Behold, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands. Isaiah 49:15-16 > >> >> > Bruce,> >> > I have a job for you. Someone mentioned a heated humidifier bottle to> > me today.> >> > My problem. Because I keep my mama ships in the garage and the weather> > has been cold my humidifier bottle is freezing into ice. The Apria guy> > said that the 02 coming out is below 0. So, even when it is 40 degrees> > it is going to freeze up.> >> > My nose is bleeding and with all this blood thinner, not a good thing.> >> > See if you can find on the net a heated humidifier high flow water> > bottle. That would be so good.> >> > Or maybe someone has an idea or a solution. My nose is begging you.> >> > Please do not suggest bringing a mother ship inside. We have taken our> > daughter and her five children in and we have no room for anything.> > Bodies are everywhere.> >> > Hugs, Joyce D.> >> > Pulmonary Fibrosis 1997 Bronchiectasis 2004 Pulmonary Hypertension> > 2008 Mixed Connective Tissue Disease> > (Lupus, RA, Sjogren's, etc) Rejected for Transplant 2006> >> > I will not forget you...Behold, I have engraved you on the palms of my> > hands. Isaiah 49:15-16> >>

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I'm going to try some different connectors. Its easy enough to put a

standard nipple connector on the reservoir and run and tube from it.

However, connecting that tube to the humidifier bottle is the more

complicated issue. Obviously, coming out of the humidifier isn't a

problem. The connectors I've tried don't seal well. Even if they did,

I'd have some concern over one more set of connectors and over whether

this increased any possibility of moisture in the line. But, it seems

there must be some alternatives, if we can only figure them out.

> > >

> > >

> > > Bruce,

> > >

> > > I have a job for you. Someone mentioned a heated humidifier bottle

> to

> > > me today.

> > >

> > > My problem. Because I keep my mama ships in the garage and the

> weather

> > > has been cold my humidifier bottle is freezing into ice. The Apria

> guy

> > > said that the 02 coming out is below 0. So, even when it is 40

> degrees

> > > it is going to freeze up.

> > >

> > > My nose is bleeding and with all this blood thinner, not a good

> thing.

> > >

> > > See if you can find on the net a heated humidifier high flow water

> > > bottle. That would be so good.

> > >

> > > Or maybe someone has an idea or a solution. My nose is begging

you.

> > >

> > > Please do not suggest bringing a mother ship inside. We have taken

> our

> > > daughter and her five children in and we have no room for

anything.

> > > Bodies are everywhere.

> > >

> > > Hugs, Joyce D.

> > >

> > > Pulmonary Fibrosis 1997 Bronchiectasis 2004 Pulmonary Hypertension

> > > 2008 Mixed Connective Tissue Disease

> > > (Lupus, RA, Sjogren's, etc) Rejected for Transplant 2006

> > >

> > > I will not forget you...Behold, I have engraved you on the palms

of

> my

> > > hands. Isaiah 49:15-16

> > >

> >

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Bruce,

At one point I bought a humidifier and began reading so much negative stuff about mold, mildew and bacterial growth that I packed the thing up and haven't used it since. The bottles get sanitized about every other day.

As soon as it gets warm, this will not be a problem, but I am going to bleed to death before then.

Thanks for looking.

Hugs, Joyce D.

Pulmonary Fibrosis 1997 Bronchiectasis 2004 Pulmonary Hypertension 2008 Mixed Connective Tissue Disease (Lupus, RA, Sjogren's, etc) Rejected for Transplant 2006

I will not forget you...Behold, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands. Isaiah 49:15-16 > >> >> > Bruce,> >> > I have a job for you. Someone mentioned a heated humidifier bottle to> > me today.> >> > My problem. Because I keep my mama ships in the garage and the weather> > has been cold my humidifier bottle is freezing into ice. The Apria guy> > said that the 02 coming out is below 0. So, even when it is 40 degrees> > it is going to freeze up.> >> > My nose is bleeding and with all this blood thinner, not a good thing.> >> > See if you can find on the net a heated humidifier high flow water> > bottle. That would be so good.> >> > Or maybe someone has an idea or a solution. My nose is begging you.> >> > Please do not suggest bringing a mother ship inside. We have taken our> > daughter and her five children in and we have no room for anything.> > Bodies are everywhere.> >> > Hugs, Joyce D.> >> > Pulmonary Fibrosis 1997 Bronchiectasis 2004 Pulmonary Hypertension> > 2008 Mixed Connective Tissue Disease> > (Lupus, RA, Sjogren's, etc) Rejected for Transplant 2006> >> > I will not forget you...Behold, I have engraved you on the palms of my> > hands. Isaiah 49:15-16> >>

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I know nothing more about this device than what I see here. Hudson has a similar one too.

http://www.smiths-medical.com/catalog/humidification-systems/active-humidification-systems/aquinox/aquinox-high-flow-humidification.html

> > >> > >> > > Bruce,> > >> > > I have a job for you. Someone mentioned a heated humidifier bottle> to> > > me today.> > >> > > My problem. Because I keep my mama ships in the garage and the> weather> > > has been cold my humidifier bottle is freezing into ice. The Apria> guy> > > said that the 02 coming out is below 0. So, even when it is 40> degrees> > > it is going to freeze up.> > >> > > My nose is bleeding and with all this blood thinner, not a good> thing.> > >> > > See if you can find on the net a heated humidifier high flow water> > > bottle. That would be so good.> > >> > > Or maybe someone has an idea or a solution. My nose is begging you.> > >> > > Please do not suggest bringing a mother ship inside. We have taken> our> > > daughter and her five children in and we have no room for anything.> > > Bodies are everywhere.> > >> > > Hugs, Joyce D.> > >> > > Pulmonary Fibrosis 1997 Bronchiectasis 2004 Pulmonary Hypertension> > > 2008 Mixed Connective Tissue Disease> > > (Lupus, RA, Sjogren's, etc) Rejected for Transplant 2006> > >> > > I will not forget you...Behold, I have engraved you on the palms of> my> > > hands. Isaiah 49:15-16> > >> >>

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Bruce,

One of my group of pulmonologists that visited me regularly in the hospital and who happened to be female commented on the fact that oxygen equipment was antiquated. She said that there needs to be so many product changes made to make improvements in our quality of life.

The scientists in this world can put men on the moon, look into our homes from outerspace, keep people breathing and comfortable in space where there is no oxygen.....etc, etc, etc,....and yet you look around you and see lung and heart patients dragging the same heavy useless old equipment around that has been in exsitance since the dark ages. Grrrrrr.

The sicker we get, the heavier and more cumbersome the equipment becomes. Then when a product is actually invented and put on the market....providers do not educate themselves to it's use....shoot, they don't have any knowledge of the stuff that they do have. And, God forbid that they have anything...new stuff or old stuff in stock and readily accessable to the patient.

Do diabetics have this much trouble getting thier needs met. ?

Uh oh, the grumpies are here this morning. They sneaked in when I wasn't looking. Excuse me while I run them away for the day.

Hugs, Joyce D.

Pulmonary Fibrosis 1997 Bronchiectasis 2004 Pulmonary Hypertension 2008 Mixed Connective Tissue Disease (Lupus, RA, Sjogren's, etc) Rejected for Transplant 2006

I will not forget you...Behold, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands. Isaiah 49:15-16 > > > >> > > >> > > > Bruce,> > > >> > > > I have a job for you. Someone mentioned a heated humidifier bottle> > to> > > > me today.> > > >> > > > My problem. Because I keep my mama ships in the garage and the> > weather> > > > has been cold my humidifier bottle is freezing into ice. The Apria> > guy> > > > said that the 02 coming out is below 0. So, even when it is 40> > degrees> > > > it is going to freeze up.> > > >> > > > My nose is bleeding and with all this blood thinner, not a good> > thing.> > > >> > > > See if you can find on the net a heated humidifier high flow water> > > > bottle. That would be so good.> > > >> > > > Or maybe someone has an idea or a solution. My nose is begging> you.> > > >> > > > Please do not suggest bringing a mother ship inside. We have taken> > our> > > > daughter and her five children in and we have no room for> anything.> > > > Bodies are everywhere.> > > >> > > > Hugs, Joyce D.> > > >> > > > Pulmonary Fibrosis 1997 Bronchiectasis 2004 Pulmonary Hypertension> > > > 2008 Mixed Connective Tissue Disease> > > > (Lupus, RA, Sjogren's, etc) Rejected for Transplant 2006> > > >> > > > I will not forget you...Behold, I have engraved you on the palms> of> > my> > > > hands. Isaiah 49:15-16> > > >> > >> >>

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