lower back pain

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Roe

I've had a significant increase in lower back pain the last month,

enough that I can almost not get up. I do have an HNP at L5-S1 that's been

there for 15 years. I had back pain prior to Lyme but never this severe.

Larry NV

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hi roe,

three things;

lie on the floor flat, slowly raise one leg bending knee as it comes up.

wrap your arms around the knee and pull gently towards your chest. hold 10

seconds. BREATH! lower to floor, straight slowly.

do the same with the other leg. BREATH!

then bring both up together. hold 10 seconds! BREATH!

do not sit on soft chairs, sleep on the floor.

take 600 mg. ibuprofen every 4 hours.

kay

[Guest guest]

I have lower back pain and it turns out to be a staph infection which

entered through my port. I was bedridden for 2 months before they put

me on a different IV for this problem. Now, 8 months later, the pain is

still there, and it turns out I've still got the infection in my back,

but it moved from the bone to the disc. So, now I'm going back on IV

for staph.

Not everything is Lyme disease - although it's probably all caused by

Lyme disease. So, GO TO THE ER!!!

Lovette

[Guest guest]

I went through the same thing, after my second discussion with my Rhemy he

sent me in for an MRI of the back/spine. In addition to finding an old back

fracture (that was never treated), I also had a tumor in the lower spine.

After many more tests and a second opinion in a fast few weeks, I had the

tumor taken out. It was not malignant which was great news, but a tumor

wrapped around the spinal cord is not a good thing malignant or not. The

surgery was scary, but at least it was caught before any real damage had

occurred. Now I have to have a follow up MRI every year to make sure it does

not come back. Bottom line is don't let anyone pass off your pain or just

give you more pain drugs. Check things out and push for addition tests and

opinions.

Bob in VA.

[Guest guest]

To treat your lower back pain, you may want to ask your doctor to prescribe

some physical therapy...you may still need the meds, but the PT can help with

some of the pain, and they will teach you exercises that you can do on your

own that will help long-term...I think the lower back part of PA is called

sacro-illiutus (sp?), and they can look for it on an MRI...

[Guest guest]

Another thought on the back pain...when I first went to Physical Therapy my

back was so bad I could barely move...one of the things they did for me was

called TINS (can't remember what is stands for)...it involved something that

looked like a pen, placed onto specific places on my legs and lower

back...then some kind of electric shock happened, the muscle would tense,

then relax, and would end up more relaxed than before; it felt better then.

They would also put me in a traction machine to gently pull my vertebrae

apart to relieve pressure. They also taught me " self-traction " that you can

do with just a table or kitchen counter, but it hurts my wrists so I can't do

it. But my aquatic physical therapists taught me how to do traction in the

water...I put 10lb weights on each ankle, wear an aqua jogging belt and just

hang in the deep end...it really helps my lower back. Sounds strange, but

for me, I don't care if it makes me feel better!

[Ed. Note: Just don't let go of the side of the pool, ! Putting 10 lb

weights on your ankles sounds an awful lot like the old gangster movies where

the Mafia would put " 10 pound overshoes " on the victim (ie; they would put his

feet in boxes of concrete, wait until the concrete dried, and them dump the poor

guy in the nearest body of water!). Ron]

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Enbrel has helped my foot, ankle, shoulder and fingers but it has done

nothing for my lower back pain. My back pain is caused by OA and disc

problems with lots of muscles spasms thrown in for good measure. The only

relief I get is from the massage therapist and or the Chiropractor and

sometimes from accupuncture. My back hurts almost all the time whenever I do

just about anything(walking, standing, sweeping the floor). In fact after I

started on Enbel I felt a lot better and started doing a bit more housework

than I was used to and my back flared up really bad, so much so that I was

blaming it on the start of taking Enbrel. Peggy B.

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I have PA and <A

HREF= " http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle.php/article1430.html " >Spondylo\

listhesis </A> it is extremely painful and I was first

diagnosed with an Xray but it showed up in much more detail with an MRI.

Treatment is fusion but I am really against cutting as the last two

operations I had made my P go right to those areas and my body made new

" P-spots " not to mention now that PA is all over I have to think that if I

was cut there L4-5 then what would keep the P and PA from " attacking that

area " hope you can get some relief. Anyone else with Spondo? (VA)

[Guest guest]

I have had severe low back pain for quite a while. My rheumy sent me for x-rays

about 5 years ago and they show a compression fracture. Last year I had more

x-rays and they showed severe arthritis , bone spurs and pressure on the spinal

cord. I then had an MRI and that showed the arthritis and every disc is bulging.

I was on Skelaxon for about a year and a half and it really helped. In the last

8 months I had both knee replaced and after my second surgery in October my back

flared up really bad. My doctor changed me to Zanaflex , it helps but makes me

very unsteady on my feet, so I can't take it if I have to leave the house. In

December I went for a nerve block in my back but that only worked for 3 days.

Maureen

" smbrown861 <suembrown861@...> " <suembrown861@...> wrote:Does anyone

have severe lower back pain, maybe with spasms? I have

been suffering for the last couple of weeks with very severe lower

back pain. I told my doctor, but she didn't really respond. I am

waiting for my insurance company to approve either Enbrel or

Remicade and am hopeful that they will help. I currently take Arava

and Bextra. Any help or suggestions???

[Guest guest]

About 1 year ago, I began developing increasing lower back pain. It

got to the point, where I had difficulty sleeping. My rheumy

prescribed physical therapy (PT). After three weeks of PT I was MUCH

improved. The PT went on for a while after that, and there was

additional improvement.

Also, I put pillows under my knees, the higher the better. That

reduces the stress on your lower back.

Good luck

Fred

> Does anyone have severe lower back pain, maybe with spasms? I have

> been suffering for the last couple of weeks with very severe lower

> back pain. I told my doctor, but she didn't really respond. I am

> waiting for my insurance company to approve either Enbrel or

> Remicade and am hopeful that they will help. I currently take

Arava

> and Bextra. Any help or suggestions???

>

>

>

> [Ed. Note: I would suggest that you be more assertive with your

doctor. Don't let him/her get off so easily with just a shrug. If

something is bothering you, and they try to shrug it off or ignore

your complaints, say something like: " Hold on a minute there doc, I

want to know whether there is anything you can recommend that will

help my severe lower back pain (or whatever happens to be ailing you)

or not? How say you? " At least that's what I would do. The response

may be " No, I can't help you " but at least then you'll know it's time

to start looking for another doctor. Medical doctors are supposed to

help, not just listen. If you wanted someone to do nothing more than

listen, you could have gone to a psychologist! ;-) Ron]

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In a message dated 2/8/2003 10:03:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

suembrown861@... writes:

> Does anyone have severe lower back pain, maybe with spasms?

Hi sue,

I live with horrible back pain and go to the chiropractor on a regular basis.

I was going several time a week, then once a week and so on until now every

few weeks is sufficient. I know when my back starts to spasm then I have

waited too long. Hope this is some help to you.

Janet

[Guest guest]

Its a TENS unit. It stands for transcutaneous electronic (electric) nerve

stimulation.

Carol in Vancouver, WA

In a message dated 2/9/03 2:18:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,

rachelviognier@... writes:

> back was so bad I could barely move...one of the things they did for me was

> called TINS (can't remember what is stands for)...it involved something

> that

> looked like a pen, placed onto specific places on my legs and lower

> back...then some kind of electric shock happened

[Guest guest]

I get that too! I think it might be die off and for some reason the toxins like

to gather there. I'm not really sure. When I get that I do an enema to flush

everything out. I think parasites might also cause that too.

roughton_aka_garden_hoer <roughton_aka_garden_hoer@...> wrote:

Hi,

Can lower back pain be a symptom of candida? I have been dealing with

intense die-off lately, and find that in the past few days my lower

back (near the tailbone) has been very sore. Could this be related

to the candida?

Thanks,

Micaela

[Guest guest]

Greetings

I have a die off that is really soooo interesting.

When I detox, I get sore muscles and neck pains. I

try to flush and get the toxins out as soon as

possible so it is not taken back in the blood stream.

I also have spotty places that house toxins, these

hurt too!!!

nieema

--- Westberry <reneewestberry@...> wrote:

> I get that too! I think it might be die off and for

> some reason the toxins like to gather there. I'm

> not really sure. When I get that I do an enema to

> flush everything out. I think parasites might also

> cause that too.

>

> roughton_aka_garden_hoer

> <roughton_aka_garden_hoer@...> wrote:

> Hi,

> Can lower back pain be a symptom of candida? I have

> been dealing with

> intense die-off lately, and find that in the past

> few days my lower

> back (near the tailbone) has been very sore. Could

> this be related

> to the candida?

>

> Thanks,

> Micaela

=====

I hope this message finds you and yours in the

best of Health and Spirit.

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nieema

[Guest guest]

My lower back has been very sore, and also the area around the kidneys lately.

roughton_aka_garden_hoer <roughton_aka_garden_hoer@...> wrote:

Hi,

Can lower back pain be a symptom of candida? I have been dealing with

intense die-off lately, and find that in the past few days my lower

back (near the tailbone) has been very sore. Could this be related

to the candida?

Thanks,

Micaela

[Guest guest]

Hi Nieema

Why don't you drink Aloe Vera Gel, it's great for

detoxing. I've been drinking it for over 2 years and I

wouldn't be without it. I'm in the market place forum.

There you can buy Aloe at wholesale price.

Regards

McKelvey U.K.

--- nieema <nieema0@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

Greetings

I have a die off that is really soooo interesting.

When I detox, I get sore muscles and neck pains. I

try to flush and get the toxins out as soon as

possible so it is not taken back in the blood stream.

I also have spotty places that house toxins, these

hurt too!!!

nieema

--- Westberry <reneewestberry@...> wrote:

> I get that too! I think it might be die off and for

> some reason the toxins like to gather there. I'm

> not really sure. When I get that I do an enema to

> flush everything out. I think parasites might also

> cause that too.

>

> roughton_aka_garden_hoer

> <roughton_aka_garden_hoer@...> wrote:

> Hi,

> Can lower back pain be a symptom of candida? I have

> been dealing with

> intense die-off lately, and find that in the past

> few days my lower

> back (near the tailbone) has been very sore. Could

> this be related

> to the candida?

>

> Thanks,

> Micaela

=====

I hope this message finds you and yours in the

best of Health and Spirit.

Our Health is Our Responsibility

http://www.a-healing-village.com

nieema

[Guest guest]

Greetings

I have never used Aloe, why I have no idea. I know

how well it works for sooo many things.

Can you please tell me more about how it or what it

does while detoxing.

Also..wholesale is the best!!!

Can you mail me off line for that?

--- McKelvey <kmmckelvey@...> wrote:

> Hi Nieema

> Why don't you drink Aloe Vera Gel, it's great for

> detoxing. I've been drinking it for over 2 years and

> I

> wouldn't be without it.

=====

I hope this message finds you and yours in the

best of Health and Spirit.

Our Health is Our Responsibility

http://www.a-healing-village.com

nieema

[Guest guest]

From: " " <just_hangin28@...>

> My lower back has been very sore, and also the area around the kidneys

lately.

>

> roughton_aka_garden_hoer <roughton_aka_garden_hoer@...> wrote:

> Can lower back pain be a symptom of candida? I have been dealing with

> intense die-off lately, and find that in the past few days my lower

> back (near the tailbone) has been very sore. Could this be related

> to the candida?

> Micaela

All of these back pains are likely related to the same syndrome that

includes candida, back problems, and fibromyalgia. You can read more about

all this in articles written by Dr. Vickery - see

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/amino

[Guest guest]

Thanks !

Very interesting article!

Micaela

--- Pytela <martinp@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

From: " " <just_hangin28@...>

> My lower back has been very sore, and also the area

around the kidneys

lately.

>

> roughton_aka_garden_hoer

<roughton_aka_garden_hoer@...> wrote:

> Can lower back pain be a symptom of candida? I have

been dealing with

> intense die-off lately, and find that in the past

few days my lower

> back (near the tailbone) has been very sore. Could

this be related

> to the candida?

> Micaela

All of these back pains are likely related to the same

syndrome that

includes candida, back problems, and fibromyalgia. You

can read more about

all this in articles written by Dr. Vickery - see

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/amino

[Guest guest]

Hi :

I have the same kind of back pain. The worst came from prolonged sitting and

bending over it became unbearable. None of the pain medications worked.

An MRI was ordered and showed two herniated disks, and some degeneration of

the lower spine. My orthopedic physician referred me to the pain clinic of one

of our major hospitals.

After their evaluation I had and epidural injection of steroids twice with no

relief, then two separate appointments with injections into the facet joints

in 6 separate spaces each time. This was used more as a diagnostic tool since

I received temporary relief. They then made the decision to do a radio

frequency ablation (nerve root burning). I had to go on two separate occasions

because they could only do one side at a time. It temporarily became worse but

after about 4 weeks, I had very good relief. That was in September, 2004 and I

am still doing well. It is not total relief but totally tolerable. I also

had to go through physical therapy to strengthen the muscles around my lumbar

spine and still do exercises every day.

I am hoping this will last. If you have any further questions about these

procedures, let me know. I have some very good sites that explain them well.

Barb

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/26/2004 12:41:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

nggator@... writes:

Does anyone have similar problems in their back or is

it more structural?

Hi , the lower back involvement is called spondylitis, and many of us

have trouble with that area. I had a fair amount of trouble there before I

ever had PA, and it has gotten much worse with the PA. There are 2 things that

work well for me, one being exercise...I learned a lot in physical therapy

and have continued those exercises through pilates classes...this helps

strengthen the abdominal muscles that help support the lower back. Lifting

weights

can be a challenge to the lower back if not done properly, you may want to

have a trainer or physical therapist help assess whether your weight lifting

is helping or hurting the area. The second thing I have found helpful is a

chair called a balance ball chair...its essentially one of those resistance

exercise balls that sits in a cradle with wheels. I got it at gaiam.com, and

it

was $80. What makes it helpful is that your spine has to constantly adjust

for you to stay balanced comfortably, and this brings fluid to the vertebrae,

which prevents stiffness and alleviates some of the pain.

Best of luck,

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/26/2004 12:41:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,

nggator@... writes:

Yesterday I cut

wood and it basically was unbearable. Unfortunately i ahve to sit a

lot at work. Does anyone have similar problems in their back or is

it more structural?

Hi ,

I also have very bad lower back pain. If it wasn't for the chiropractor

every two weeks, I think I would have to have had back surgery by now. My

chiro also has a massage therapist in the office and I have a half hour back

massage once a week which is very therapeutic.

Janet

[Guest guest]

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------

From: rachelviognier@...

Reply-

Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:21:31 EST

I use my recumbant exercise bike. It stretches out the hips and lower back,

while not putting any stress on any joint. When my feet are too painful to do

Yoga or walking, I can still get on my bike and feel less pain when I get off.

I bought it at a used sporting goods store for $80.

Ks Di

>

>

>

>In a message dated 12/26/2004 12:41:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

>nggator@... writes:

>

>Does anyone have similar problems in their back or is

>it more structural?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have problems at the base of my spine. If I am trying to do anything that

requires bending the spine. the pain just builds as time goes on. I also have

a feeling that if I were to move the wrong way, I would cause real problems

with it.

I mentioned it to the specials Rheumatologist nurse this morning and he

suggested I try Physiotherapy for that and my hands/wrists to try and strengthen

the muscles again. You are already doing that by the sound of it. Could you be

doing too much exercise? Who knows.

Hope things improve for you.

[Guest guest]

First of all. go see a doctor and get diagnosed. You've been dealing with this

for 6 months! Then after a diagnoses, based on radiology tests, you will know

what you are dealing with, and which direction to go with it.

crysieblu <crysieblu@...> wrote:

Ok, so this past December i fell while i was snowboarding and landed

on my lower back and the top of by butt. I was in extreme pain as soon

as it happened, i could barley walkl....the worst pain i've felt in my

life. I havent gone to the doctor because i figured that it was my

tailbone and have always been told that nothing could really be done

for that...so needless to say i still hurt when i exercise, bend over

ect... and there is a pocket of fluid on my lower back right above my

crack. Not only is the pain in my lower back it goes to the middle of

my crack and into my left butt cheek...HELP!! What do i need to do and

or can anything be done about it...i thought about going to a

chiropractor....

Vivian Harkness

http://www.geocities.com/southeastsearchandrescue/index.html

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