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I just had a friend, young 28 years old, healthy, athletic, healthy diet, and

full of energy, die from H1N1. She was on life suppport for three weeks before

her organs stopped working one by one.

The vaccine didn't come out soon enough to save her life. She didn't get the

option of taking or not taking the vaccine. Either did the person who exposed

her to the virus.

Darned Right I'm Getting the Vaccine!

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I too am getting the vaccine....Most of us would have a much worse life without

science....If it is my destiny to be a guinea pig so be it..... Without medicine

I would not be alive to worry about getting the vaccine or not....

Raniolo

From: cynthiadew1 <cynthiadew1@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: H1N1 and other stuff

Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 4:24 AM

 

I just had a friend, young 28 years old, healthy, athletic, healthy diet, and

full of energy, die from H1N1. She was on life suppport for three weeks before

her organs stopped working one by one.

The vaccine didn't come out soon enough to save her life. She didn't get the

option of taking or not taking the vaccine. Either did the person who exposed

her to the virus.

Darned Right I'm Getting the Vaccine!

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OKD,

She may be reconsidering. Could it be a CYA move? Because you have RA

and are on Enbrel, you are in the group who is at a higher risk for

complications from an H1N1 infection who should be vaccinated. What is

her liability should you become infected and face serious illness?

I'll be interested to hear what your rheumatologist says.

Not an MD

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:36 PM, OKD <Cofade_2000@...> wrote:

> Hi Group:

>

> I promised to tell you guys what happened with the forcing of the h1n1 vaccine

on us that work in my hospital.  I personally objected because I dont know how

this vaccine reacts with the DMARDS (biologics).  What r they gonna say to me in

10 yrs if something disastrous occurs?  Oops, sorry??? Pffffffffft.....anyways:

>

> CDC says there is not enuf research with Enbrel (they emailed me), and my

Rheumy, yesterday, after me waiting for an appt, signed the waiver stating that

she did not recommend it for me, because there is not enuf research with h1n1

and Enbrel, and I am dancing the happy victory dance, cause I one-upped the

mofo's trying to assault me with this vaccine (which I feel is a drug company

ploy to make money), and then, POOF, today my Rheumy emails me with this:

>

> http://www.rheumatology.org/publications/hotline/2009_09_29_h1n1.asp

>

> H1N1 Virus: Implications for Rheumatology

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Hi and Group:

She just emailed me back. I asked her if she was " revoking my H1N1 waiver " and

this is what she said:

" No. Just letting you know what the ACR hotline is recommending. I doubt they

will ask me anything but the truth is there is not enough evidence. I still feel

it should not be forced in healthcare workers...take care "

I trust Dr. Zapata, she brought me back from the abyss of misery, pain and I see

hope in my future of living with RA, I was so miserable and depressed and

hurting, it was really bad.

To the person whose friend died of H1N1, I am terribly sorry for your loss, but

this doesnt make me want this vaccine more, people die everyday of the seasonal

flu as well, even sometime healthy individuals. Everyone is different. Every

vaccine, every drug affects people differently. My eldest daughter had the

swine flu, yes, she as knocked down for a few days, she was very ill, but she is

ok today.

I have to listen to my head, my instinct, that is why God gave it to me.

Everyone has their own destiny as well and I carry my confidence (in my head and

heart).

People have to know always the other side of the discussion too. They are

pushing this way too fast, but WHO is benefiting???.

OKD

> > Hi Group:

> >

> > I promised to tell you guys what happened with the forcing of the h1n1

vaccine on us that work in my hospital.  I personally objected because I dont

know how this vaccine reacts with the DMARDS (biologics).  What r they gonna say

to me in 10 yrs if something disastrous occurs?  Oops, sorry???

Pffffffffft.....anyways:

> >

> > CDC says there is not enuf research with Enbrel (they emailed me), and my

Rheumy, yesterday, after me waiting for an appt, signed the waiver stating that

she did not recommend it for me, because there is not enuf research with h1n1

and Enbrel, and I am dancing the happy victory dance, cause I one-upped the

mofo's trying to assault me with this vaccine (which I feel is a drug company

ploy to make money), and then, POOF, today my Rheumy emails me with this:

> >

> > http://www.rheumatology.org/publications/hotline/2009_09_29_h1n1.asp

> >

> > H1N1 Virus: Implications for Rheumatology

>

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I just got my regular flu shot this morning. Our health department has

not received the H1N1 vaccine; but when they do, I plan to get that

one, too.

Sue

On Oct 8, 2009, at 4:50 AM, CATHERINE RANIOLO wrote:

> I too am getting the vaccine....Most of us would have a much worse

> life without science....If it is my destiny to be a guinea pig so be

> it..... Without medicine I would not be alive to worry about getting

> the vaccine or not....

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Very interesting, OKD. Thanks for letting us know.

Not an MD

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:26 AM, OKD <Cofade_2000@...> wrote:

> Hi and Group:

>

> She just emailed me back.  I asked her if she was " revoking my H1N1 waiver "

and this is what she said:

>

> " No.  Just letting you know what the ACR hotline is recommending. I doubt they

will ask me anything but the truth is there is not enough evidence. I still feel

it should not be forced in healthcare workers...take care "

>

>

> I trust Dr. Zapata, she brought me back from the abyss of misery, pain and I

see hope in my future of living with RA, I was so miserable and depressed and

hurting, it was really bad.

>

> To the person whose friend died of H1N1, I am terribly sorry for your loss,

but this doesnt make me want this vaccine more, people die everyday of the

seasonal flu as well, even sometime healthy individuals.  Everyone is different.

 Every vaccine, every drug affects people differently.  My eldest daughter had

the swine flu, yes, she as knocked down for a few days, she was very ill, but

she is ok today.

>

> I have to listen to my head, my instinct, that is why God gave it to me.

 Everyone has their own destiny as well and I carry my confidence (in my head

and heart).

>

> People have to know always the other side of the discussion too.  They are

pushing this way too fast, but WHO is benefiting???.

>

> OKD

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I'm very sorry to hear about the death of your friend, .

Not an MD

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:24 AM, cynthiadew1 <cynthiadew1@...> wrote:

> I just had a friend, young 28 years old, healthy, athletic, healthy diet, and

full of energy, die from H1N1.  She was on life suppport for three weeks before

her organs stopped working one by one.

>

> The vaccine didn't come out soon enough to save her life.  She didn't get the

option of taking or not taking the vaccine.  Either did the person who exposed

her to the virus.

>

> Darned Right I'm Getting the Vaccine!

>

>

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Hi. So sorry about your friend.

I have RA, not currently on agressive meds.

I had the H1N1 about 6 weeks ago.

It is going around Sothern Il.

I am thankful I was not on immune suppresant meds when I had it! It wasn't to

unlike the regular flu, except the chest congestion and risk of pnumonia. I get

a flu shot yearly and pnumonia shots when scheduled!

I would probobly, if on RA meds, get the vaccine! I am fortunate that I don't

need to now since I have already had it. I still have a congested cough from it

even now all these weeks later. I also have asthma and it takes a little longer

to get over congestion. My dr told me that becuse of the Asthma meds, it helped

my lungs not get so bad.

Again, I am sorry to hear about your friend, the H1N1 is hitting the younger

population and pregnant woman hard! (I'm 42)

As soon as I got a feaver, I stayed home and away from the public. But to let

you know, the H1N1 starts out like you have a cold with a bad headache! Then the

feavor, body aches, no energy and severe congestion.

I personally would do the vaccine (and had planned on it before getting the

virus).

Sherri

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