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From what you write it sounds like your son is most likely celiac.

What you have described is very much like my youngest son. I do not

give him enzymes though. From what I have read there is no enzyme

currently in existence that will help a celiac with gluten.

I do give my autistic & celiac son Houston enzymes though. They do

not alleviate the pain and diahrea from accidental gluten ingestion

but prevent the autistic (leaky gut) reaction. Basically he still

has a physical reaction to gluten but no behavioural or developmental

reaction. I also give it to him so he can eat dairy and soy again.

He has the same behavioral reaction to dairy and soy as he does

gluten but not when he takes enzymes. My youngest celiac only son

has no reaction to any food other than gluten (though I did not give

him dairy for a year to give his intestines time to heal).

If it is possible to test your other kids you should do it.

According to Danna Korn, author of Kids with Celiac Disease, there is

a 30% chance your other kids could be celiac. You and your husband

ought to be tested too. One can be asymptomatic while damage is

being done. In those cases it is often not diagnosed until the

person is so nutrient deficient they land in the hospital with a

stroke, heart attack etc. My family does not have medical insurance

so testing was out of the question. Instead we went 100% gluten free

for 2 months. Nobody else has any reaction to going off or back on.

Usually if one is asymptomatic they would start having symptoms if

off gluten for at least 6 weeks. Other symptoms in adults is

depression, lethargy and poor memory.

E-mail me if you have any more questions.

> ,

> Which enzymes and how much do you give your celiac sons for a gluten

> infraction?

>

> I suspect that my 2 year old is celiac but did not have testing

done. He has

> been gluten free since age 18 months but occasionally gets some

wheat,

> resulting in extreme crankiness, banging his head on the floor, and

loose

> stools.

>

> As a newborn he cried nearly constantly, was fearfull and clingy

and had

> severe eczema. He would only move his bowels about every 10 days to

2 weeks

> and was exclusively breastfed until 8 months of age. He would not

sleep

> unless he was in my arms for his first 4 months and after that he

would

> still wake several times per night. He was gaining weight though,

so Drs

> said not to worry, he'd outgrow the sleep problems and the eczema.

>

> When he began eating wheat products at around 12 months of age, he

began to

> have loose stools and to stop gaining weight. He did not gain

weight until I

> removed the gluten from his diet(and from mine, as he is still

> breastfeeding) at age 18 months. His eczema went away also, his

behavior

> became much better and he began to sleep through the night. He

seems normal

> now except for his speech delay. He has never been vaccinated.

>

> Does this sound like celiac and would it be worthwhile to persue

having my

> other 3 children tested for celiac? I don't plan to let my little

guy have

> any gluten anytime soon, so testing is out for him.

>

> ~Jeanne

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Which enzymes and how much do you give your celiac sons for a gluten

infraction?

I suspect that my 2 year old is celiac but did not have testing done. He has

been gluten free since age 18 months but occasionally gets some wheat,

resulting in extreme crankiness, banging his head on the floor, and loose

stools.

As a newborn he cried nearly constantly, was fearfull and clingy and had

severe eczema. He would only move his bowels about every 10 days to 2 weeks

and was exclusively breastfed until 8 months of age. He would not sleep

unless he was in my arms for his first 4 months and after that he would

still wake several times per night. He was gaining weight though, so Drs

said not to worry, he'd outgrow the sleep problems and the eczema.

When he began eating wheat products at around 12 months of age, he began to

have loose stools and to stop gaining weight. He did not gain weight until I

removed the gluten from his diet(and from mine, as he is still

breastfeeding) at age 18 months. His eczema went away also, his behavior

became much better and he began to sleep through the night. He seems normal

now except for his speech delay. He has never been vaccinated.

Does this sound like celiac and would it be worthwhile to persue having my

other 3 children tested for celiac? I don't plan to let my little guy have

any gluten anytime soon, so testing is out for him.

~Jeanne

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Jeanne,

I think said this, but enzymes will not help a person with

celiac. At the very beginning of a gluten free diet, adding

pancreatic enzymes MAY help a child gain weight, but apparently that

effect is lost after the second month. Celiac is an abnormal

immunological reaction to the gluten protein which Houston and

Kirkland enzymes cannot address at this time.

> ,

> Which enzymes and how much do you give your celiac sons for a

gluten

> infraction?

>

> I suspect that my 2 year old is celiac but did not have testing

done. He has

> been gluten free since age 18 months but occasionally gets some

wheat,

> resulting in extreme crankiness, banging his head on the floor,

and loose

> stools.

>

> As a newborn he cried nearly constantly, was fearfull and clingy

and had

> severe eczema. He would only move his bowels about every 10 days

to 2 weeks

> and was exclusively breastfed until 8 months of age. He would not

sleep

> unless he was in my arms for his first 4 months and after that he

would

> still wake several times per night. He was gaining weight though,

so Drs

> said not to worry, he'd outgrow the sleep problems and the eczema.

>

> When he began eating wheat products at around 12 months of age, he

began to

> have loose stools and to stop gaining weight. He did not gain

weight until I

> removed the gluten from his diet(and from mine, as he is still

> breastfeeding) at age 18 months. His eczema went away also, his

behavior

> became much better and he began to sleep through the night. He

seems normal

> now except for his speech delay. He has never been vaccinated.

>

> Does this sound like celiac and would it be worthwhile to persue

having my

> other 3 children tested for celiac? I don't plan to let my little

guy have

> any gluten anytime soon, so testing is out for him.

>

> ~Jeanne

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This is true Jeanne. Let me add that enzymes will help a celiac

digest other foods. Most celiacs are lactose intolerant for a time

until their gut heals. Enzymes can help with that in addition to the

digestion of other foods. The damage to the intestines causes

nutritional deficiencies and enzymes aids in overall digestion so

they can catch up faster in getting those nutrients they are

deficient in. This also results in better weight gain.

> > ,

> > Which enzymes and how much do you give your celiac sons for a

> gluten

> > infraction?

> >

> > I suspect that my 2 year old is celiac but did not have testing

> done. He has

> > been gluten free since age 18 months but occasionally gets some

> wheat,

> > resulting in extreme crankiness, banging his head on the floor,

> and loose

> > stools.

> >

> > As a newborn he cried nearly constantly, was fearfull and clingy

> and had

> > severe eczema. He would only move his bowels about every 10 days

> to 2 weeks

> > and was exclusively breastfed until 8 months of age. He would not

> sleep

> > unless he was in my arms for his first 4 months and after that he

> would

> > still wake several times per night. He was gaining weight though,

> so Drs

> > said not to worry, he'd outgrow the sleep problems and the eczema.

> >

> > When he began eating wheat products at around 12 months of age,

he

> began to

> > have loose stools and to stop gaining weight. He did not gain

> weight until I

> > removed the gluten from his diet(and from mine, as he is still

> > breastfeeding) at age 18 months. His eczema went away also, his

> behavior

> > became much better and he began to sleep through the night. He

> seems normal

> > now except for his speech delay. He has never been vaccinated.

> >

> > Does this sound like celiac and would it be worthwhile to persue

> having my

> > other 3 children tested for celiac? I don't plan to let my little

> guy have

> > any gluten anytime soon, so testing is out for him.

> >

> > ~Jeanne

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Thank you and all, for clarifying this for me. I knew that there was

not an enzyme for celiac and had read that Peptizyde might make things worse

for the celiac if given with gluten. So wondered if maybe a big dose of ZP

or NF or both would lessen the damage to the gut with an unintended gluten

infraction.

I did have my son GFCF for several months, starting when he was 18

months old.

I gave Zyme Prime with his carb meals and I believe that it did help with

the gut healing.

After about 3 months I began to cautiously give him dairy, at first with ZP

and later without. No return of symptoms, so by then I was pretty sure that

gluten was the problem. He began to refuse to take his enzymes, no matter

what I tried to hide them in, but by then he was doing well, just on the GF

diet. I continued to take the enzymes myself, with good results and that may

have increased the enzyme content of my breast milk. He has been the most

" attached to the breast " baby of all my 4 children. He also went through a

box of Coromega supplement too, which may have helped with healing.

For myself, my first week of being off gluten had awful emotional

thinki'mgoingcrazy type reaction. This may have been a leaky gut or AS type

reaction - I think that I could have been dx as HFA as a child, but of

course no one had heard of it 40 years ago.

Becky mentioned the Specific Carbohydrate Diet and I do have Elaine

Gottschall's book. She says that a year on SCD will completely cure celiac

but this so contradicts everything else I have read about celiac being a

lifelong genetic disorder. SCD is restrictive and would be difficult to

follow for a year or more, but if it could cure him so that he could have

real bread again maybe we should try it...

~Jeanne

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Jeanne,

Your reaction to going off gluten is interesting. When I went off it

while nursing, my only reaction is that it took alot to fill me up.

The first couple weeks I was hungry all the time. Four months later

after I weaned my son and went back on gluten I found I could not eat

as much. Appearantly gluten is quite filling.

> For myself, my first week of being off gluten had awful emotional

> thinki'mgoingcrazy type reaction. This may have been a leaky gut or

AS type

> reaction - I think that I could have been dx as HFA as a child, but

of

> course no one had heard of it 40 years ago.

>

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> Thanks Dana.

> He has been on the Feingold diet for over 2 years now and whilst it

makes a

> vast difference, it doesn't make enough.

>

> I don't use peptizide anymore. I just wondered if there was any way

I could

> use it or any other enzyme to his benefit. I haven't tried no phenol

> because phenols aren't a big problem.

Feingold is based on removal of salicylates. Salicylates are one

subset of phenol. So if removing salicylates was helpful to your

child, he has a problem with phenols. Try the No-Fenol, because it

will help the balance of phenols in his diet.

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It is to rule it out because there is a particular test for it. Autism

and other developmental disorders are diagnosed based on observable

behavior only...the diagnosis doesn't tell what causes the behaviors

(as you are likely well aware of). Some kids acting 'autistic' turn out

to have celiac disease. I don't think the majority of kids do, but

since celiac is a particular known disease, it is good he checked for

it. A lot of autism people do have digestive disorders, though, and may

not be able to thoroughly digest gluten,... or diary, or fruit, or

corn, or egg, or potatoes, or any other thing commonly thought of

as 'food'.

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>

> My DAN Dr. did a blood test on - 5 yrs asd. for celiac disease.

> It came back negative, he isn't celiac. I'm not sure why he tested

him

> for that. Are a lot of asd kids also celiac???

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> My DAN Dr. did a blood test on - 5 yrs asd. for celiac disease.

> It came back negative, he isn't celiac. I'm not sure why he tested him

> for that. Are a lot of asd kids also celiac???

I don't know about a " lot " , but quite a few are.

Was your son eating gluten when the test was done? Testing is

typically not accurate if the child is not eating gluten.

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Hi Dana, No, he was not eating gluten when the test was done. He's been GFCF

since September. How inaccurate would that make the test?

Amber.

On 3/4/06, danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

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>

> >

> > My DAN Dr. did a blood test on - 5 yrs asd. for celiac disease.

> > It came back negative, he isn't celiac. I'm not sure why he tested him

> > for that. Are a lot of asd kids also celiac???

>

>

> I don't know about a " lot " , but quite a few are.

>

> Was your son eating gluten when the test was done? Testing is

> typically not accurate if the child is not eating gluten.

>

> Dana

>

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> Hi Dana, No, he was not eating gluten when the test was done. He's

been GFCF

> since September. How inaccurate would that make the test?

Depends on the test. I have read that there is at least one celiac

test that *might* be accurate if you are not eating gluten. You might

want to check here

http://www.celiac.com/index.html

Dana

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Hi, althemany83:

Celiac (also " non-tropical sprue " ) is a condition that humans are subject to

when they eat animal food; it is Nature's Way of telling us that grain products,

especially hyper-refined into flour, is not what we should be consuming, in

general.

Specifically, celiac is a reaction (quite a bit more than normal 'food allergy,'

it is an autoimmune reaction) to gliadin protein found usually in gluten (mostly

wheat, barley, and rye but other grains might produce similar protein, also, and

nearly all flour-making equipment is, of course, contaminated). Eating the

offending food causes the villi in the small intestine to be attacked by our own

immune systems, possibly through the mechanism of molecular mimicry.

When the gut stops healing so rapidly (natural growth hormone levels decreased),

celiac can emerge. There are three specific blood tests that should be required

together to detect this disease, short of an intestinal biopsy.

Many people with celiac have arthritic symptoms, especially reactive

arthritides, as well as deficiency syndromes related to malabsorption issues.

The easy treatment is quite difficult for some people--total avoidance of

gluten.

Regards,

althemany83@... wrote: Can some explain celiac disease to me please

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Hi everyone! I almost never write to the group anymore. Some of you " oldsters "

might remember me. :-) (HI, ETHEL and CHRIS!) After years of feeling pretty

decent, I am suddenly in what seems to be a flare up from hell (RA). I am

currently on flagyl for a post-surgery uterine infection. I hadn't put the two

things together in my mind. Is flagyl an antibiotic normally used for rheumatic

diseases? I don't recall seeing it mentioned. I am horribly swollen from my fat

toes to my hips.

I am 42, have had RA since 1997, and was nearly in remission by 2000 (with Dr.

Franco's help). I think I was so thrilled with having my life back that I got

lazy and dropped the ball. It started coming back on me. I also have very

brittle juvenile diabetes and, I'm starting to suspect, celiac disease. Oh

yes--and two big dogs, two big teenage boys, two 80-year-old parents with

dementia, a very stressful and demanding job (MORE than full-time), and a very

active boyfriend that would love it if his woman was in better shape.

I'm not taking my minocin at the moment, as I await the new prescription from

Canada. I wasn't sure if I've been feeling so bad because I am OFF the minocin

or because I ADDED the flagyl. The surgeon also has me on cipro and nystatin.

Words of wisdom, anyone?

Thanks!

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Check out this website for celiac disease, it is very helpful. It also explains

the different types of tests available, a blood test may give a false negative.

Sometimes a stool test might be required.

Good Luck.

http://www.glutenfreedom.net/page.asp?itemid=12

--------- rheumatic Flagyl - From Bell

>

>

> Hi everyone! I almost never write to the group anymore. Some of you " oldsters "

> might remember me. :-) (HI, ETHEL and CHRIS!) After years of feeling pretty

> decent, I am suddenly in what seems to be a flare up from hell (RA). I am

> currently on flagyl for a post-surgery uterine infection. I hadn't put the two

> things together in my mind. Is flagyl an antibiotic normally used for

rheumatic

> diseases? I don't recall seeing it mentioned. I am horribly swollen from my

fat

> toes to my hips.

>

> I am 42, have had RA since 1997, and was nearly in remission by 2000 (with Dr.

> Franco's help). I think I was so thrilled with having my life back that I got

> lazy and dropped the ball. It started coming back on me. I also have very

> brittle juvenile diabetes and, I'm starting to suspect, celiac disease. Oh

> yes--and two big dogs, two big teenage boys, two 80-year-old parents with

> dementia, a very stressful and demanding job (MORE than full-time), and a very

> active boyfriend that would love it if his woman was in better shape.

>

> I'm not taking my minocin at the moment, as I await the new prescription from

> Canada. I wasn't sure if I've been feeling so bad because I am OFF the minocin

> or because I ADDED the flagyl. The surgeon also has me on cipro and nystatin.

>

> Words of wisdom, anyone?

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

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Re: rheumatic Celiac

Check out this website for celiac disease, it is very helpful. It also explains

the different types of tests available, a blood test may give a false negative.

Sometimes a stool test might be required.

Good Luck.

http://www.glutenfr <http://www.glutenfreedom.net/page.asp?itemid=12>

eedom.net/page.asp?itemid=12

--------- rheumatic Flagyl - From Bell

>

>

> Hi everyone! I almost never write to the group anymore. Some of you

" oldsters "

> might remember me. :-) (HI, ETHEL and CHRIS!) After years of feeling pretty

> decent, I am suddenly in what seems to be a flare up from hell (RA). I am

> currently on flagyl for a post-surgery uterine infection. I hadn't put the

two

> things together in my mind. Is flagyl an antibiotic normally used for

rheumatic

> diseases? I don't recall seeing it mentioned. I am horribly swollen from my

fat

> toes to my hips.

>

> I am 42, have had RA since 1997, and was nearly in remission by 2000 (with

Dr.

> Franco's help). I think I was so thrilled with having my life back that I got

> lazy and dropped the ball. It started coming back on me. I also have very

> brittle juvenile diabetes and, I'm starting to suspect, celiac disease. Oh

> yes--and two big dogs, two big teenage boys, two 80-year-old parents with

> dementia, a very stressful and demanding job (MORE than full-time), and a

very

> active boyfriend that would love it if his woman was in better shape.

>

> I'm not taking my minocin at the moment, as I await the new prescription from

> Canada. I wasn't sure if I've been feeling so bad because I am OFF the

minocin

> or because I ADDED the flagyl. The surgeon also has me on cipro and nystatin.

>

> Words of wisdom, anyone?

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

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rheumatic Flagyl - From Bell

Hi everyone! I almost never write to the group anymore. Some of you " oldsters "

might remember me. :-) (HI, ETHEL and CHRIS!) After years of feeling pretty

decent, I am suddenly in what seems to be a flare up from hell (RA). I am

currently on flagyl for a post-surgery uterine infection. I hadn't put the two

things together in my mind. Is flagyl an antibiotic normally used for rheumatic

diseases? I don't recall seeing it mentioned. I am horribly swollen from my fat

toes to my hips.

I am 42, have had RA since 1997, and was nearly in remission by 2000 (with Dr.

Franco's help). I think I was so thrilled with having my life back that I got

lazy and dropped the ball. It started coming back on me. I also have very

brittle juvenile diabetes and, I'm starting to suspect, celiac disease. Oh

yes--and two big dogs, two big teenage boys, two 80-year-old parents with

dementia, a very stressful and demanding job (MORE than full-time), and a very

active boyfriend that would love it if his woman was in better shape.

I'm not taking my minocin at the moment, as I await the new prescription from

Canada. I wasn't sure if I've been feeling so bad because I am OFF the minocin

or because I ADDED the flagyl. The surgeon also has me on cipro and nystatin.

Words of wisdom, anyone?

Thanks!

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Hi ;

Nice to hear from you again.I have Celiac and about 70% of people

with any chronic disease has it or Celiac syndrome that can become full

blown Celiac if not careful.You can read all about it at

www.celiac.com My doctor told me to get tested at

www.enterolab.com you order the test you want,pay by credit card,they

send a kit,you send in a stoll sample and they e-mail you the results a

few weeks later.Stoll test is better than blood test according to the

doctor and the best part is that you don't have to pay one. Lynne G./SD

>Can some explain celiac disease to me please

>Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

>

> rheumatic Flagyl - From Bell

>

>

>Hi everyone! I almost never write to the group anymore. Some of you " oldsters "

might remember me. :-) (HI, ETHEL and CHRIS!) After years of feeling pretty

decent, I am suddenly in what seems to be a flare up from hell (RA). I am

currently on flagyl for a post-surgery uterine infection. I hadn't put the two

things together in my mind. Is flagyl an antibiotic normally used for rheumatic

diseases? I don't recall seeing it mentioned. I am horribly swollen from my fat

toes to my hips.

>

> I am 42, have had RA since 1997, and was nearly in remission by 2000 (with Dr.

Franco's help). I think I was so thrilled with having my life back that I got

lazy and dropped the ball. It started coming back on me. I also have very

brittle juvenile diabetes and, I'm starting to suspect, celiac disease. Oh

yes--and two big dogs, two big teenage boys, two 80-year-old parents with

dementia, a very stressful and demanding job (MORE than full-time), and a very

active boyfriend that would love it if his woman was in better shape.

>

> I'm not taking my minocin at the moment, as I await the new prescription from

Canada. I wasn't sure if I've been feeling so bad because I am OFF the minocin

or because I ADDED the flagyl. The surgeon also has me on cipro and nystatin.

>

> Words of wisdom, anyone?

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

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john

where ever did you get this info.? i know many who have healed leaky gut

with the paleo diet - lots of meat and fish. it is grains and legumes

that casue problems for celiacs - not meat? meat and fish don't bother

my gut at all but grains and legumes affect me horribly.

monique

Hi, althemany83:

Celiac (also " non-tropical sprue " ) is a condition that humans are

subject to when they eat animal food; it is Nature's Way of telling us

that grain products, especially hyper-refined into flour, is not what we

should be consuming, in general.

Specifically, celiac is a reaction (quite a bit more than normal 'food

allergy,' it is an autoimmune reaction) to gliadin protein found usually

in gluten (mostly wheat, barley, and rye but other grains might produce

similar protein, also, and nearly all flour-making equipment is, of

course, contaminated)

.. Eating the offending food causes the villi in the small intestine to

be attacked by our own immune systems, possibly through the mechanism of

molecular mimicry.

When the gut stops healing so rapidly (natural growth hormone levels

decreased), celiac can emerge. There are three specific blood tests that

should be required together to detect this disease, short of an

intestinal biopsy.

Many people with celiac have arthritic symptoms, especially reactive

arthritides, as well as deficiency syndromes related to malabsorption

issues.

The easy treatment is quite difficult for some people--total avoidance

of gluten.

Regards,

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Hi ,I hate to burst your bubble but a lot of celiacs can't touch

beef either because of the amount of grain they are given to fatten them

up.Grass fed beef often is no problem.I have to stay far far away from

anything " cow " Lynne

> john

>

> where ever did you get this info.? i know many who have healed leaky gut

> with the paleo diet - lots of meat and fish. it is grains and legumes

> that casue problems for celiacs - not meat? meat and fish don't bother

> my gut at all but grains and legumes affect me horribly.

>

> monique

>

> Hi, althemany83:

>

> Celiac (also " non-tropical sprue " ) is a condition that humans are

> subject to when they eat animal food; it is Nature's Way of telling us

> that grain products, especially hyper-refined into flour, is not what we

> should be consuming, in general.

>

> Specifically, celiac is a reaction (quite a bit more than normal 'food

> allergy,' it is an autoimmune reaction) to gliadin protein found usually

> in gluten (mostly wheat, barley, and rye but other grains might produce

> similar protein, also, and nearly all flour-making equipment is, of

> course, contaminated)

> . Eating the offending food causes the villi in the small intestine to

> be attacked by our own immune systems, possibly through the mechanism of

> molecular mimicry.

>

> When the gut stops healing so rapidly (natural growth hormone levels

> decreased), celiac can emerge. There are three specific blood tests that

> should be required together to detect this disease, short of an

> intestinal biopsy.

>

> Many people with celiac have arthritic symptoms, especially reactive

> arthritides, as well as deficiency syndromes related to malabsorption

> issues.

>

> The easy treatment is quite difficult for some people--total avoidance

> of gluten.

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

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hi lynne

well then if you eat grass fed beef as i do it should not be a problem

right? that is the way meat should be naturally anyway - then we get the

proper ratio of omega fats.

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Hi , you are one very lucky girl to be able to find good meat.It

should be just fine. Lynne

> hi lynne

>

> well then if you eat grass fed beef as i do it should not be a problem

> right? that is the way meat should be naturally anyway - then we get the

> proper ratio of omega fats.

>

> monique

>

>

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hi lynne

don't you have any organic farms that follow weston price principles

there? i feel so lucky to have so many organic local source here in

kelowna. edmonton was good though too. there must be some good farms

near ottawa no?

monique

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Hi Y'all

I don't post much anymore as I am not online very often, but I do try to

keep up with the posts. I have a question. I just went to my Rheu and he

said he ran a test last time and I tested positive for Celiac disease. I am

of course gonna read what I can find out but can anyone tell me if it really

gets better if the gluten is stopped? It seems to me that between the Gluten

free diet, the IC diet and the Diabetic diet I can't eat much except the box

the food comes in but only if it has not contained something that has

gluten. LOL

I am a bit freaked out over this latest news of one more things my body

rebels against.I any of you have it please steer me to a web-site. Also,

does this mean when I see the gastrologist She will check it out by having a

EGD ( tube thru the mouth to the small intestine)? I hope not but it seems

that would make the definitive answer. Comments appreciated

Heidi M

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Heidi,

I'm sorry that you have another disease to contend with. Actually, the

gluten-free diet would be good for your diabetes, since grains raise

our blood glucose. I don't know what the IC diet is.

Since I have diabetes, I eat very few grain products. I eat lots of

vegetables, especially green ones, and lots of salads, too. Meat,

cheese, and other forms of protein are okay on a diabetic diet. I try

not to eat anything white because white foods are all high carb except

for cauliflower, LOL.

You can probably find substitutes for gluten, for example, soy flour,

which is relatively low carb.

Good luck with this new challenge!

Sue

On Tuesday, November 11, 2008, at 04:56 PM, Heidi Mendelsohn wrote:

> It seems to me that between the Gluten

> free diet, the IC diet and the Diabetic diet I can't eat much except

> the box

> the food comes in but only if it has not contained something that has

> gluten. LOL

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