Re: calcium/magnesium/potassium EAP

[Guest guest]

Congrats! Keep us posted please. Interested to hear about what it's

doing when you're back on again.

Crystal

>

> I'm having amazing success with oral calcium/magnesium/potassium EAP

> by Mynax. It's a 3 week on 3 week off protocol and I'm in the

middle

> of my second week off.

[Guest guest]

Congrats! Keep us posted please. Interested to hear about what it's

doing when you're back on again.

Crystal

>

> I'm having amazing success with oral calcium/magnesium/potassium EAP

> by Mynax. It's a 3 week on 3 week off protocol and I'm in the

middle

> of my second week off.

[Guest guest]

The EAP is interesting stuff. I took the intravenous EAP for a little

over a year. I met one of my EAP physicians former nurses who taught

patients how to do the injections. She saw many, but not all, of the

patients on the IV get better.

I took the oral EAP, CaEAP, Mg EAP, and membrane complex along with

the IV form. The physician told me that the oral form just didn't

have the " punch " (my word) of the EAP. So he had me do all of the EAP

products

> > >

> > > From: shepdog87 <shepdog@>

> > > Subject: Re: going to go back on LDN and off pain meds

> > > To: mscured

> > > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:43 AM

> > >

> > > What is good for muscle spasms? I have had a muscle spasm in my

> lower

> > > thorasic region for several weeks.

> >

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Wow, glad you're having great results. I've been using the same product (Mynax)

for 1-1/2 years and have never noticed any difference.

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

 

IV Calcium EAP is a 7 year committment according to the protocol. If someone is

taking the oral forms of the supplement there would not be that type of

committment because there is not enough of the substance in the body to cause

that effect.

 

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[Guest guest]

I may have needed those minerals more than you do. You may need

something else.

>

> Wow, glad you're having great results. I've been using the same

product (Mynax) for 1-1/2 years and have never noticed any difference.

>

[Guest guest]

, it seems the EAP is neutralizing toxins and or pathogens to some extent

with out ramping up the immune response. Therefore no Herx?  Would'nt that be

nice? ...RP ps: apparently the cal/mag/zink did ellicit a Herx responce.

Subject: Re: calcium/magnesium/potassium EAP

To: mscured

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 7:48 PM

Hi Janet. I feel a little better since I wrote the last post, but

not great! I suppose that taking plain cal/mag/potassium might fill

a gap, but I want to follow the Neiper protocol and skip three weeks

and start again so that my body is stabilized by the new infusion of

minerals.

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure what it is Rich. It could be as you said, I could have

just been deficient in those minerals, they could have opened a detox

pathway. It could be something else entirely. I feel good when I take

it, no herx.

>

> , it seems the EAP is neutralizing toxins and or pathogens to

some extent with out ramping up the immune response. Therefore no

Herx?  Would'nt that be nice? ...RP ps: apparently the cal/mag/zink did

ellicit a Herx responce.

>

[Guest guest]

This is what Hans Nieper has to say about it:

http://www.naturalbiology.com/drhaniprpaon.html

>

> Hi All,

>  

> IV Calcium EAP is a 7 year committment according to the protocol. If

someone is taking the oral forms of the supplement there would not be

that type of committment because there is not enough of the substance

in the body to cause that effect.

>  

>

>

> -

>

[Guest guest]

deficient in minerals? Doubtful.  ...RP

Subject: Re: calcium/magnesium/potassium EAP

To: mscured

Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 1:23 AM

I'm not sure what it is Rich. It could be as you said, I could have

just been deficient in those minerals, they could have opened a detox

pathway. It could be something else entirely. I feel good when I take

it, no herx.

[Guest guest]

Part II:

http://www.naturalbiology.com/drhanippatwo.html

>

> This is what Hans Nieper has to say about it:

>

> http://www.naturalbiology.com/drhaniprpaon.html

>

[Guest guest]

Dear and all,

Now I am really confused. I am orally detoxing before having my

fillings out and IV chelation in October. I'm taking colloidal silver

and am 4.5 mg of LDN and other supplements. I've been investigating

Klenner, EAP and Lyme treatment. I can't switch to raw because of my

living situation but my diet is as close to BBD as I can make it. Is

EAP compatable with other supplements? Should I do a liver/colon

cleanse after IV chelation? Any suggestions?....sigh...Lydia

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[Guest guest]

Lydia, why are you doing chelation before amalgam removal? Cleansing

your body should be first, IMO, because you want to clear the pathways

of elimination. There is an order that is preferable. Colon, kidney,

liver, blood. Drink LOTS of water during these cleanses and keep it up

if you can.

I think that you may be confusing your body (along with your mind) with

all that you are doing at the same time. How are you going to know

where to place credit or blame when things change? I've been guilty of

this as well.

Your diet won't cause much cleansing because you're eating cooked food,

but the BBD is the next best way to eat for MS. I eat a raw version of

this diet, sort-of. Find out if you have any food sensitivities and

eliminate those foods.

I would hold off on adding the cal/mag/pot EAP until you get things

more under control. You may not get the results you want if there are

too many issues to settle first (like amalgam removal and cleansing).

I'm not sure what your condition is and I can't say what you should or

should not take with EAP. I would think that depends on " you " as we are

all different.

What makes you think that you might have Lyme disease and are you

taking probiotic enzymes along with the silver?

>

> Dear and all,

>

> Now I am really confused. Any suggestions?....sigh...Lydia

>

> >

[Guest guest]

,

I'm with you on this. I believe mineral deficiencies are a

fundamental cause of disease. I'm trying to get them through a highly

mineralized organic garden. I'm sure the soil isn't built up enough

yet, so I need to supplement more. These three minerals are essential.

Other trace minerals/elements and most importantly iodine. We could

learn allot from a good veterinarian. Most animal disorders are

mineral deficiencies, adjust the feed and health returns i.e., strokes

in turkeys=copper deficiency and the " S " curve in the spine of a dairy

heifer=potassium deficiency.

I hope you have stumbled upon your particular need. I look forward

to your future posts on this. We seem to be on the same wave length. I

joined this group because I have CLD, and I think what works for MS

will work for chronic lymes and all disease. I think there is unity in

disease and that disease results from toxemia. Toxemia can have many

causes, but our destiny is to return to the soil, our fate a slow

degeneration.

Until then, let's defy the composting nature of our little buddies

.... and regain health!

What other minerals do you use or have in mind?

Shep

> I'm having amazing success with oral calcium/magnesium/potassium EAP

> by Mynax. It's a 3 week on 3 week off protocol and I'm in the middle

> of my second week off. I'm ing for it! I can stand straighter

> and longer when I take it.

[Guest guest]

It's not always what you eat, but what you assimilate. I think the

issue is more about balance. Those minerals work for me because they

work together.

>

> deficient in minerals? Doubtful.  ...RP

>

[Guest guest]

I take Modifilan, a raw seaweed supplement that supplies me with

iodine. It also has metal binding properties. I eat pumpkin seeds for

zinc and Brazil nuts and sunflower seeds for selenium and many other

trace minerals. I also eat seasalt regularly. I don't supplement

much. I eat a raw, organic diet. Here's to the success of your

garden.

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> What other minerals do you use or have in mind?

>

> Shep

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[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

I am only doing chelation, vitamins and silver at this time.

I was tested and have heavy mercury and antimony poisoning. Some of

the mercury came from my own ignorance. I went to a blue cross

dentist who did not take precautions

while replacing them. I am going to a dentist who specializes in

mercury for the rest. I read that detoxing all at once overloads the

system. I tried a colon cleanse previously and when I started

passing pure water instead of the expected, I had to stop. I thought

I would use oral chelation to lessen the toxic load before the rest

of the fillings are changed and I do IV.

While researching Klenner, I came across this regarding mercury: "

mercury oxidizes thiamine to thiochrome thereby negating its value,

the symptoms of thiamine deficiency and mercury toxicity are very

similar (a thiamine deficiency alone can cause symptoms and,

therefore, may potentiate mercury toxicity symptoms), and thiamine

contains a sulphur group and has been found in at least one clinical

study to remove lead, cadmium, nickel, arsenic and mercury from body

tissues. Thus, the mercury-toxic individual has at least one pathway

of detoxification removed as a result of thiamine being disabled. "

http://www.mymultiplesclerosis.gr/jeff_story.html

Since my entire family has MS (mostly women, one uncle) and have

taken all known drugs and nothing has helped (all but one in

wheelchair). I have only taken LDN – no drugs. I have had MS for 35

years and still walk...er...stumble on my feet. I thought I would

rule out what I know I have, heavy metal, and go from there.

Hopefully, find something that will help my family. Yes, it will be

hard to know what works. I am taking a probiotic but do not think it

is the right one. Any suggestions? I just want to know what to do

next. Thank you, Ron, for tour suggestion.

I want to thank everyone for the support and shared information…Lydia

>

> Lydia, why are you doing chelation before amalgam removal?

Cleansing

> your body should be first

[Guest guest]

Hi Lydia, I asked because I was under the impression that chelating

with amalgams in your mouth will draw more mercury into your system.

I used to take Pro-Zyme probiotics but now I just drink kombucha

(fermented) tea and put yakon root powder (a prebiotic) in my

smoothies, occasionally.

I do take Serrapeptase if I have swelling in my feet. I have taken it

daily in the past. It isn't probiotic but is an enzyme that digests

inflammation and scar tissue.

I am taking a probiotic but do not think it

> is the right one. Any suggestions? I just want to know what to do

> next.

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for the suggestions etc. I am going to start selenium again.

The Modifilan sounds interesting, the Japanese and Russians used a

seaweed for radiation poisoning with some success. I believe the

fallout from man made radiation over the years somehow causes disease.

Shep

> I take Modifilan, a raw seaweed supplement that supplies me with

> iodine. It also has metal binding properties.