Guest guest Posted March 13, 2000 Report Share Posted March 13, 2000 Judy- I am taking Darvocet, Guai, and Neurontin (for restless leg syndrome). I have been wondering about the Methadone and if I should maybe try that as well? I know nothing about it. The Darvocet really helps, as does the Neurontin. The Guai helps with my chronic sinus problems, but I don't know about the fms. I have heard, though, that guai can make you feel worse before you feel better. And, my dr says you have to take it at least a couple of months before you can expect it to help. I have been on it just 2 months. I would appreciate any info on the methadone. Tonya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2000 Report Share Posted March 18, 2000 I agree, let's think spring! I am sorry you are hurting, Janice. Don't you hate it when those things like bathing the dog need to be done, you do it and then you hurt like hell after. So frustrating! janicelpn@... wrote: > From: janicelpn@... > > , so very sorry about your Mom. It must be very hard for you right > now. Please take care or yourself...... > > . sorry for your loss. The big C is so terrible. He was so young > too. Please accept my condolences and {{{{HUGS}}} > > Jeanne, boy do I relate. If I got everything done that I want to or > think about I would be estatic......but alas, I barely get daily > necessary things done. > > Boy am I hurting today......ouch!!!! Yesterday I bathed the dog. Now > that in itself is a feat..I have no tub only a handicap shower so I use > a 20 gal. plastic container, It actually works fine, but I had to kneel > on the floor (cement) and lean over the container. When I got done I > went to the bathroom sink and that's when my thighs and buttock started > going into severe spasms, I mean so bad you could see them contract. > Almost like they were vibrating. Now today I am soooo sore, and getting > up and down from the chair is almost unbearable, boohoo......who would > have thought? This is the craziest da__ disorder I ever heard of. > > I started my WET program. I can use the heated pool and do the > exercises I learned when I went before ( when ins. paid). I fiured it > would help with the soreness today........but it didn't help much. I > will be better but just wanted to tell you watch what you do and how you > do it. Of course I went up and down the stairs at the house alot too > and I don't do steps well at all, ouch.....so between the two things i > was bound to lose. Haha, you would think I would learn, huh? > > Hope you all had a nice St. 's Day today. Now let's thing SPRING > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > DON'T HATE YOUR RATE! > Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as > 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. > Apply NOW! > http://click./1/2120/3/_/442796/_/953348446/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > VIP > Add or view links about fibro/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ Log in: > Go to this list: Click on your name: Select your choice. > > LIST OWNER:oa2@... -- :0) An argument with your spouse is a loving moment lost forever. Mom to Bear, Wife to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2000 Report Share Posted April 6, 2000 --- CeeCee wrote: > My name is CeeCee. I was diagnosed with Fibromyalia > in December of > '96 after a year of going through every possible > blood and urine > tests possible. It felt good to know that I wasn't a > hypochondriac > and there was something physically wrong with me. I > have always > wanted to be a nurse but I had to change majors > because I could no > longer meet the physical demands of nursing. My > family, friends and > employer doesn't understand what I go through with > Fibromyalgia and > CFS. CFS is my worst symptom. I am anemic so I have > a double whammy. > That is why I so excited to be apart of this group. > I am looking > forward to having shoulders to lean on as well as > giving others a > shoulder to lean on. > > ===== Get paid to surf the net. No catches. Strict privacy. No Spamming allowed. I received a check already. Wow, what a pleasant surprise!!!!! Simply do the following: Go to http://www.AllAdvantage.com and enter my member ID HSU-082 Remember the Golden Rule: " Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you. " :-) __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 WIth regard to having all the symptoms but no trigger points, have you run some very complete and definite tests to rule out chronic Lyme disease? Do several tests as false negatives are extremely common. This would be an extremely easy way out of your illness, relatively speaking, if you test positive. If I remember correctly, you live in Texas. SOme people are using HYperbaric Oxygen Therapy for LYme's along with antibiotics. There is a relatively inexpesive (though still expensive!) HBOT chamber in Olney TX. fellow Texan ps: I'm so sorry things are so hard and painful for you. I've been there. Take care. On Fri, 05 May 2000 13:06:12 PDT " kimberly mom " writes: > If you have all the symptoms of fms but can not find any tender > points does > that mean you do not have it? Just don't know what to do anymore, > I've gone > to a ton of Dr. and each one tells me something else, plus they lie > in there > reports. One Dr. told me I had shingles but wrote in his report that > it was > a insect bite! Do you ever just cry and cry all day no matter what? > I went > to a new Dr. yesterday, a city clinic one that yelled at me and kept > telling > me I'd better get one thing straight that i could not just walk in > there > with pages of symptoms and excpect him to do something that he had > never > seen me before and he only had 15 mins. over and over. And as i sat > there > balling my eyes out never said anything nice or positive or helpful > or > offered me something for the puddles of tears rolling down my face. > Does anyone ever feel like they are having a nervous breakdown? How > do I > know that all this crap is not just in my head? I can not live like > this any > longer it is just to hard. I use to be close to God but the past > year I have > been so angery at him i can not stand it. I have no insurance, > money, family > around me outside of hubby and kids, or friends. I have been going > through > this for 6 years and have been to so many bad Dr. I am on so much > medication > I have to write it down so i know what to take when. I have major > depression > so i don't know if this is all just from that or what i feel is even > real > anymore. > Sorry for this I just dont have any where else to turn. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > VIP > Add or view links about fibro/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ Log in: > Go to this list: Click on your name: Select your choice. > > LIST OWNER:oa2@... > > > > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 WIth regard to having all the symptoms but no trigger points, have you run some very complete and definite tests to rule out chronic Lyme disease? Do several tests as false negatives are extremely common. This would be an extremely easy way out of your illness, relatively speaking, if you test positive. If I remember correctly, you live in Texas. SOme people are using HYperbaric Oxygen Therapy for LYme's along with antibiotics. There is a relatively inexpesive (though still expensive!) HBOT chamber in Olney TX. fellow Texan ps: I'm so sorry things are so hard and painful for you. I've been there. Take care. On Fri, 05 May 2000 13:06:12 PDT " kimberly mom " writes: > If you have all the symptoms of fms but can not find any tender > points does > that mean you do not have it? Just don't know what to do anymore, > I've gone > to a ton of Dr. and each one tells me something else, plus they lie > in there > reports. One Dr. told me I had shingles but wrote in his report that > it was > a insect bite! Do you ever just cry and cry all day no matter what? > I went > to a new Dr. yesterday, a city clinic one that yelled at me and kept > telling > me I'd better get one thing straight that i could not just walk in > there > with pages of symptoms and excpect him to do something that he had > never > seen me before and he only had 15 mins. over and over. And as i sat > there > balling my eyes out never said anything nice or positive or helpful > or > offered me something for the puddles of tears rolling down my face. > Does anyone ever feel like they are having a nervous breakdown? How > do I > know that all this crap is not just in my head? I can not live like > this any > longer it is just to hard. I use to be close to God but the past > year I have > been so angery at him i can not stand it. I have no insurance, > money, family > around me outside of hubby and kids, or friends. I have been going > through > this for 6 years and have been to so many bad Dr. I am on so much > medication > I have to write it down so i know what to take when. I have major > depression > so i don't know if this is all just from that or what i feel is even > real > anymore. > Sorry for this I just dont have any where else to turn. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > VIP > Add or view links about fibro/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ Log in: > Go to this list: Click on your name: Select your choice. > > LIST OWNER:oa2@... > > > > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 Wow Jan. That was an exciting day. I am so glad you and Spanky enjoyed it. Sounds like he is a wonderful dog already! janicelpn@... wrote: > I am talking about somethng other than fibro but I had such an > incredible day today I had to share it with you all. Just had to tell > you all, I took Spanky ( my pup ) with his red Mickey Mouse scarf > downtown to the Great Race being sponsored by the History Channel. They > ( over 100 antique cars ) stopped over in New Castle PA today for their > lunch break. We won the Nationwide contest last year and our library got > $5000. Anyway, next to the cars, I heard more people comment about the > cute puppy or pretty dog. And of course we were stopped constantly by > people wanting to pet him. If someone came up to him and said, " aw > you're cute " he ran to them to be petted. It was so funny, I know he > knew what they were saying..... In the town square ( or diamond as we > call it ) a group of adult day care people ( all mentally challenged) > are taken there every day. Well when they saw Spanky they all started > gibbering and smiling, so of course we had to go over to them. Some > petted him and some looked but all smiled, as did I. What a feeling. One > lady pointed to the girl beside her and said " the dog likes her, but not > me. " I said, " he hasn't seen you yet. " Then I told Spanky to go see the > lady. Well he went right over and put his paws on her lap and the lady > leaned down and got all kinds of kisses. Needless to say the lady was > beaming and giggling and saying " he does like me, he does. " Oh Boy, What > a feeling.... :-) It was the high light of the whole day. This is > something I have been wanting to do but hadn't made the more yet ( have > him become a therapy dog ) because since he's only 16 mo. old and still > somewhat of a pup I didn't know if he could handle it, but I found out > today he did and royally too. He made me so proud. Of course some people > said " oh look at the poodle. " and I said he's not a poodle, can you > guess what he is? " Then they wanted to know more and now they know what > a bichon looks like. I have him walk at heel when we walk on busy > streets but he did wonderfully in the crowd today, a right gentleman, > haha.........think I am bragging? You bet !!!!!! Poor little guy did > tired out and had to be held some, it was 85* at 10:30 this morning and > the pavement was hot. And his little belly isn't that far from the > ground so he needed lots of cold water and held a few times. I have > never been so pround of him as I was today. One young man in a > wheelchair held him for the longest time and didn't want to give him up, > but finally did and said come visit again...... I felt we could all > enjoy this a little and not dwell on the hurts too much today, sometimes > I get tired of letting my pain and fatigue rule me. as I am sure you do > also. So just wanted to share a good story for a change about man's and > woman's best medicine, a fluffy little white dog, named > Spanky....... I wish you all a pleasant evening and day tomorrow. Jan M > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Take 20 friends to Vegas on New Year's courtesy of Expedia.com. > Win the airfare, a suite at Bellagio and $15,000. Or win 2 roundtrip > tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily. Click for a chance to win. > http://click./1/5294/5/_/442796/_/961022097/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON & THURS > Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM > Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > VIP > If there is a problem on this list notify. > Co-Moderator > The_List_Owner@... > > Add or view links about fibro/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 Wow Jan. That was an exciting day. I am so glad you and Spanky enjoyed it. Sounds like he is a wonderful dog already! janicelpn@... wrote: > I am talking about somethng other than fibro but I had such an > incredible day today I had to share it with you all. Just had to tell > you all, I took Spanky ( my pup ) with his red Mickey Mouse scarf > downtown to the Great Race being sponsored by the History Channel. They > ( over 100 antique cars ) stopped over in New Castle PA today for their > lunch break. We won the Nationwide contest last year and our library got > $5000. Anyway, next to the cars, I heard more people comment about the > cute puppy or pretty dog. And of course we were stopped constantly by > people wanting to pet him. If someone came up to him and said, " aw > you're cute " he ran to them to be petted. It was so funny, I know he > knew what they were saying..... In the town square ( or diamond as we > call it ) a group of adult day care people ( all mentally challenged) > are taken there every day. Well when they saw Spanky they all started > gibbering and smiling, so of course we had to go over to them. Some > petted him and some looked but all smiled, as did I. What a feeling. One > lady pointed to the girl beside her and said " the dog likes her, but not > me. " I said, " he hasn't seen you yet. " Then I told Spanky to go see the > lady. Well he went right over and put his paws on her lap and the lady > leaned down and got all kinds of kisses. Needless to say the lady was > beaming and giggling and saying " he does like me, he does. " Oh Boy, What > a feeling.... :-) It was the high light of the whole day. This is > something I have been wanting to do but hadn't made the more yet ( have > him become a therapy dog ) because since he's only 16 mo. old and still > somewhat of a pup I didn't know if he could handle it, but I found out > today he did and royally too. He made me so proud. Of course some people > said " oh look at the poodle. " and I said he's not a poodle, can you > guess what he is? " Then they wanted to know more and now they know what > a bichon looks like. I have him walk at heel when we walk on busy > streets but he did wonderfully in the crowd today, a right gentleman, > haha.........think I am bragging? You bet !!!!!! Poor little guy did > tired out and had to be held some, it was 85* at 10:30 this morning and > the pavement was hot. And his little belly isn't that far from the > ground so he needed lots of cold water and held a few times. I have > never been so pround of him as I was today. One young man in a > wheelchair held him for the longest time and didn't want to give him up, > but finally did and said come visit again...... I felt we could all > enjoy this a little and not dwell on the hurts too much today, sometimes > I get tired of letting my pain and fatigue rule me. as I am sure you do > also. So just wanted to share a good story for a change about man's and > woman's best medicine, a fluffy little white dog, named > Spanky....... I wish you all a pleasant evening and day tomorrow. Jan M > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Take 20 friends to Vegas on New Year's courtesy of Expedia.com. > Win the airfare, a suite at Bellagio and $15,000. Or win 2 roundtrip > tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily. Click for a chance to win. > http://click./1/5294/5/_/442796/_/961022097/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON & THURS > Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM > Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > VIP > If there is a problem on this list notify. > Co-Moderator > The_List_Owner@... > > Add or view links about fibro/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 At 06:34 PM 6/14/00 -0400, you wrote: >I am talking about somethng other than fibro but I had such an >incredible day today I had to share it with you all. Just had to tell >you all, I took Spanky ( my pup ) with his red Mickey Mouse scarf >downtown to the Great Race being sponsored by the History Channel. They >( over 100 antique cars ) stopped over in New Castle PA today for their >lunch break. We won the Nationwide contest last year and our library got >$5000. Anyway, next to the cars, I heard more people comment about the >cute puppy or pretty dog. And of course we were stopped constantly by >people wanting to pet him. If someone came up to him and said, " aw >you're cute " he ran to them to be petted. It was so funny, I know he >knew what they were saying..... In the town square ( or diamond as we >call it ) a group of adult day care people ( all mentally challenged) >are taken there every day. Well when they saw Spanky they all started >gibbering and smiling, so of course we had to go over to them. Some >petted him and some looked but all smiled, as did I. What a feeling. One >lady pointed to the girl beside her and said " the dog likes her, but not >me. " I said, " he hasn't seen you yet. " Then I told Spanky to go see the >lady. Well he went right over and put his paws on her lap and the lady >leaned down and got all kinds of kisses. Needless to say the lady was >beaming and giggling and saying " he does like me, he does. " Oh Boy, What >a feeling.... :-) It was the high light of the whole day. This is >something I have been wanting to do but hadn't made the more yet ( have >him become a therapy dog ) because since he's only 16 mo. old and still >somewhat of a pup I didn't know if he could handle it, but I found out >today he did and royally too. He made me so proud. Of course some people >said " oh look at the poodle. " and I said he's not a poodle, can you >guess what he is? " Then they wanted to know more and now they know what >a bichon looks like. I have him walk at heel when we walk on busy >streets but he did wonderfully in the crowd today, a right gentleman, >haha.........think I am bragging? You bet !!!!!! Poor little guy did >tired out and had to be held some, it was 85* at 10:30 this morning and >the pavement was hot. And his little belly isn't that far from the >ground so he needed lots of cold water and held a few times. I have >never been so pround of him as I was today. One young man in a >wheelchair held him for the longest time and didn't want to give him up, >but finally did and said come visit again...... I felt we could all >enjoy this a little and not dwell on the hurts too much today, sometimes >I get tired of letting my pain and fatigue rule me. as I am sure you do >also. So just wanted to share a good story for a change about man's and >woman's best medicine, a fluffy little white dog, named >Spanky....... I wish you all a pleasant evening and day tomorrow. Jan M >That's a terrific story and a wonderful friend you have there. Sounds like he's made to be a therapy dog....he has the right personality for it....Dee > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Take 20 friends to Vegas on New Year's courtesy of Expedia.com. >Win the airfare, a suite at Bellagio and $15,000. Or win 2 roundtrip >tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily. Click for a chance to win. >http://click./1/5294/5/_/442796/_/961022097/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ >MON & THURS >Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM >Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM >WHERE: /chat/ > > >VIP >If there is a problem on this list notify. >Co-Moderator >The_List_Owner@... > > >Add or view links about fibro/CFS. >http://www.onelist.com/links/ > >TO unsubscribe. >Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 At 06:34 PM 6/14/00 -0400, you wrote: >I am talking about somethng other than fibro but I had such an >incredible day today I had to share it with you all. Just had to tell >you all, I took Spanky ( my pup ) with his red Mickey Mouse scarf >downtown to the Great Race being sponsored by the History Channel. They >( over 100 antique cars ) stopped over in New Castle PA today for their >lunch break. We won the Nationwide contest last year and our library got >$5000. Anyway, next to the cars, I heard more people comment about the >cute puppy or pretty dog. And of course we were stopped constantly by >people wanting to pet him. If someone came up to him and said, " aw >you're cute " he ran to them to be petted. It was so funny, I know he >knew what they were saying..... In the town square ( or diamond as we >call it ) a group of adult day care people ( all mentally challenged) >are taken there every day. Well when they saw Spanky they all started >gibbering and smiling, so of course we had to go over to them. Some >petted him and some looked but all smiled, as did I. What a feeling. One >lady pointed to the girl beside her and said " the dog likes her, but not >me. " I said, " he hasn't seen you yet. " Then I told Spanky to go see the >lady. Well he went right over and put his paws on her lap and the lady >leaned down and got all kinds of kisses. Needless to say the lady was >beaming and giggling and saying " he does like me, he does. " Oh Boy, What >a feeling.... :-) It was the high light of the whole day. This is >something I have been wanting to do but hadn't made the more yet ( have >him become a therapy dog ) because since he's only 16 mo. old and still >somewhat of a pup I didn't know if he could handle it, but I found out >today he did and royally too. He made me so proud. Of course some people >said " oh look at the poodle. " and I said he's not a poodle, can you >guess what he is? " Then they wanted to know more and now they know what >a bichon looks like. I have him walk at heel when we walk on busy >streets but he did wonderfully in the crowd today, a right gentleman, >haha.........think I am bragging? You bet !!!!!! Poor little guy did >tired out and had to be held some, it was 85* at 10:30 this morning and >the pavement was hot. And his little belly isn't that far from the >ground so he needed lots of cold water and held a few times. I have >never been so pround of him as I was today. One young man in a >wheelchair held him for the longest time and didn't want to give him up, >but finally did and said come visit again...... I felt we could all >enjoy this a little and not dwell on the hurts too much today, sometimes >I get tired of letting my pain and fatigue rule me. as I am sure you do >also. So just wanted to share a good story for a change about man's and >woman's best medicine, a fluffy little white dog, named >Spanky....... I wish you all a pleasant evening and day tomorrow. Jan M >That's a terrific story and a wonderful friend you have there. Sounds like he's made to be a therapy dog....he has the right personality for it....Dee > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Take 20 friends to Vegas on New Year's courtesy of Expedia.com. >Win the airfare, a suite at Bellagio and $15,000. Or win 2 roundtrip >tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily. Click for a chance to win. >http://click./1/5294/5/_/442796/_/961022097/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ >MON & THURS >Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM >Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM >WHERE: /chat/ > > >VIP >If there is a problem on this list notify. >Co-Moderator >The_List_Owner@... > > >Add or view links about fibro/CFS. >http://www.onelist.com/links/ > >TO unsubscribe. >Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2000 Report Share Posted September 2, 2000 Greetings Mike! You mentioned: > Funny how your life can change - I used to think hang gliding > or maybe bungee jumping would be having an adventure, now > brushing my teeth can be an adventure! AMEN! Recently, all of my symptoms have been 'flaring'. My latest problem has been sleep. I don't. Sigh! I am desperately tired, want to sleep forever, and can not even get to sleep. Oh, I start to fall asleep then have problems breathing. Was in tears last night at frustration over it all. So, it is time to see my sleep doctor. My wife indicates I am obstructing during exhalation. Now, how in the world do you fix that? I'm at a delicate balance point as it is now with my BiPAP machine. If the pressure increases much beyond where it is, the central apneas get bad. Any lower, and I obstruct. Might be time for a tracheostomy. Sigh! I am so tired, depressed and frustrated. And ANGRY! (Fortunately, God doesn't mind if we get angry ... just if we don't talk.) Regards, =jbf= B. Fisher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2001 Report Share Posted December 16, 2001 In a message dated 12/16/2001 10:20:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, issyhotten@... writes: > Steve was given 2 units during surgery - not self-donated. > I got the same in Birmingham. Des Tuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 I am the person who started the surfacehippy group. , kbrews@... - > (unknown) > > > Can someone give me the name and E-mail address of the person who statred > surfacehippy? Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Tami, To be honest I am so thankful I did not have a doctor or weight loss clinic that made me lose before the surgery. Only reason is I wanted have closer. I had just about everything before surgery. I think I gained 20lbs. Do I regret it? ummmm no way! I still look back at those memories believe it or not! I can still visulize that piece of cheesecake and chocolate cake! I took protein shakes...Pro Complex because its the only mix I know that has 4 carbs per serving while giving you 55 grams of protein! My doctor did my surgery OPEN and with an ACTIVE diseased gallbladder removal she did it in an hour. I do not put too much in to those who say your liver with shrink if you all of a sudden start losing weight. Maybe if it has always been a problem with your organs being too close or something. Not saying its not healthy to lose weight...just so happy I did not have to. I actually lost close to 50 lbs in 5 weeks! And I was eating away. Not stretching my pouch but eating several times a day. When I went down to 2 baby meals a day if that I have stayed at a plateau. Go figure! I do not stress it and once I see the scale stay at the same weight...out it goes. My whole attitude has been ...MELLOW YELLOW. I have way too many people who have had this surgery vary by so much...weight they lost..when they started eating..side effects...so on and so on. One of my friends lost only 20 pounds the first 5 weeks. Now in 2 weeks she lost close to 30! just never know what your body will do. My doctor said the best thing I did was take Prenatal vitamins, Vitamin C (throat longenzes) and protein shakes. She said instead of sewing up wet carboard..it was like sewing up a firm orange peel! Anyway never thought my big flabby stretch marked stomach would win prizes with anyone. I think I walked twice a week around a few blocks with my kids a week before surgery. Do not stress it. Do what you can and you will be fine. If you smoke definately would be in your best interest to stop or cut back as much as possible. Oh and start blowing up balloons all day long so to work on those lung muscles!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have to admit I was one prepared puppy considering i had 4 days notice before I went under the knife. Anyway enough pats on the back for me! Hugs Yvette teeleeq wrote: Yvette,I am glad to hear that you have had no complications. It gives me hope that things may go well with me. I am trying to lose weight still and am giong to add more exercise to my life to try and make recooperating easier and faster. Any hints on how to do that? Tami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2002 Report Share Posted September 8, 2002 Well, your experience is certainly encouraging, Shayne! So you had your surgery at Pacific Bariatrics? In San Diego, I assume? In order to qualify for surgery in South San Francisco, I was told by the program coordinator (Nadia somebody) that we have to lose 5% of our body weight to be given a surgery date, and another 5% before the actual surgery, or the surgery will be cancelled. That is soooooo distressing! I feel that if I could lose 32 pounds (I'm 321, needless to say!) and keep it off, I could just keep going on losing weight without the surgery. Does that make sense? I have, however, heard that Pacific Bariatric does not have the 10% weight loss requirement. How frustrating that if I want to have the surgery close to home, I have to do the weight loss pre-op...but if I go to San Diego, I can get on the surgery schedule ASAP. As both places are Kaiser-paid facilities, I just don't get it. Just thinking out loud here! Laurie Re: (unknown) Tami, To be honest I am so thankful I did not have a doctor or weight loss clinic that made me lose before the surgery. Only reason is I wanted have closer. I had just about everything before surgery. I think I gained 20lbs. Do I regret it? ummmm no way! I still look back at those memories believe it or not! I can still visulize that piece of cheesecake and chocolate cake! I took protein shakes...Pro Complex because its the only mix I know that has 4 carbs per serving while giving you 55 grams of protein! My doctor did my surgery OPEN and with an ACTIVE diseased gallbladder removal she did it in an hour. I do not put too much in to those who say your liver with shrink if you all of a sudden start losing weight. Maybe if it has always been a problem with your organs being too close or something. Not saying its not healthy to lose weight...just so happy I did not have to. I actually lost close to 50 lbs in 5 weeks! And I was eating away. Not stretching my pouch but eating several times a day. When I went down to 2 baby meals a day if that I have stayed at a plateau. Go figure! I do not stress it and once I see the scale stay at the same weight...out it goes. My whole attitude has been ...MELLOW YELLOW. I have way too many people who have had this surgery vary by so much...weight they lost..when they started eating..side effects...so on and so on. One of my friends lost only 20 pounds the first 5 weeks. Now in 2 weeks she lost close to 30! just never know what your body will do. My doctor said the best thing I did was take Prenatal vitamins, Vitamin C (throat longenzes) and protein shakes. She said instead of sewing up wet carboard..it was like sewing up a firm orange peel! Anyway never thought my big flabby stretch marked stomach would win prizes with anyone. I think I walked twice a week around a few blocks with my kids a week before surgery. Do not stress it. Do what you can and you will be fine. If you smoke definately would be in your best interest to stop or cut back as much as possible. Oh and start blowing up balloons all day long so to work on those lung muscles!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have to admit I was one prepared puppy considering i had 4 days notice before I went under the knife. Anyway enough pats on the back for me! Hugs Yvette teeleeq wrote: Yvette,I am glad to hear that you have had no complications. It gives me hope that things may go well with me. I am trying to lose weight still and am giong to add more exercise to my life to try and make recooperating easier and faster. Any hints on how to do that? Tami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2002 Report Share Posted September 8, 2002 Hi everyone!, Boy oh boy do i understand the stress of having to lose the 10% i am of the same mind set, if i could lost 35 why not 70 and so on? I am not sure i read right, if i have it at san diego i dont have to? Gezz its almost worth it as i see no way to lose the 35 pounds. I had the idea of doing the liqued diet for three weeks i no that would work. I had to wait about 6 weeks to get a letter back from them to tell me i was approved. Now im waitin again. The appoveal letter said yes your approved ,well contact you with in 12 weeks. Its been 4. I sure hope its not going to take a year to do this.I started thos last may. I just want to get this over and start loseing weight and start healing. I am so glad you all are here!! Its great to talk to other from kaiser your all helping me a great deal! well once again its 6am and im off to work! Have a great day Shell > > Yvette, > I am glad to hear that you have had no complications. It gives me > hope that things may go well with me. I am trying to lose weight > still and am giong to add more exercise to my life to try and make > recooperating easier and faster. Any hints on how to do that? Tami > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Hi Tami, My doctor said if you are a part of a documented weight loss program (like Weight Watchers or Kaiser's Healthy Ways class) they are more likely to approve you quickly because it *does* show you're serious and you are working on losing that 10% of your total body weight. If you hate WW, however, you really might want to check into Healthy Ways. I've heard good things about that class. It costs $125.00, which is the downside, but it probably averages out to the same was weight watchers in the long run. I think it is 10-12 weeks, and they go into healthy eating and all that stuff. They also weigh you regularly and that goes into your Kaiser record...which is why it helps get your approval for WLS. Anybody here taken that class at Kaiser? Was it valuable? Laurie (unknown) Hi everyone, I am qith Laurie, where is everyone? We may be small but should try to check in for short bits if we can. I went back to Weight Watchers yesterday to see if I can give the WLS a boost. I am hoping that if Kaiser sees that I am prepared to make this commitment they will definitely approve me. I am also hoping they don't think "Hey, she's going to lose weight in some other way, why should we bother with her?" My pcp says to try anyway. Any loss will just be good for me. The thing is I have a really bad track record with Weight Watchers. I hate to have to pay the dues. Cheap of me I know, but, that's just how I am. I would rather take that money and buy something for my kids or house or put it towards a bill. I don't work outside the home. I homeschool my youngest daughter due in large part to her health (as yet undiagnosed unspecified connective tissue disorder, or at least that's what her pcp says) and because I hate the middle school she would have to attend. Bad experiences with the other three there. I also do bookkeeping and babysitting to try and bring in income. It is difficult to support a large family on one income. I have this problem that makes it tough to get hired in the public work place, Obesity, gross obesity. I have to say that Target hired me probably because of my weight. I think they were afraid I would sue or something. I loved that job. I had to quit because of my daughters health but, I would love to go back. Y'all give a few words will ya'? Good luck and GOD bless! Tami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Hi Tami & Laurie, Im sorry I have not been posting to much. See my boyfriend lives in Santa Cruz and I go to his place mon-wed and he's here fri- mon so Im not always able to post. First Id like to thank laurie for sharing this link with another group maybe we well pick up a few more people. That would be great. Second Tami I don't have children but im sure its tuff but well woth it huh? Kids are great. I just called Kaiser to see if im anycloser to hearing something and the answer was no. I have to wait 12 week to get my orintation (sp?) pack . She said I may be looking to around th begining of the year for surgery. Which was a good thing to hear but i am still so so stressed about having to lose the 10% . Tami I have gone back to weight watchers so many times i can't count!! I have to say when i was 32 i was 259 and went to them and i did lose about 110 pounds and kept it off for about two years maybe three then poof I gained it all back plus another 100 just for good mesure! I am now 350 and feel awlful most of the time. Its hard for me to do lots of things. For me this is the last house on the block sorta speak. I got clean & sober on July 21,93 and am very involed in AA , I quet smoking 5 years ago, but the food addiction is something i can't over come. I was thinking of joining jenny craig (again) just to lost this 35 pounds but I hate there food. The other idea is to download jenny craigs menus off the web (which you can do ) and just follow it. I mean hell most of it is fruits ans vegies . Then my last brain storm ( are you guys cracking up yet ? lol ) I will do that liquid diet were all you do is drink this stuff five times a day. oh well sorry for going on and on lol whos next?? Shell P.S I am such a bad bad speller ! I tell my friends love me love my spelling! > Hi Tami, > > My doctor said if you are a part of a documented weight loss program (like Weight Watchers or Kaiser's Healthy Ways class) they are more likely to approve you quickly because it *does* show you're serious and you are working on losing that 10% of your total body weight. If you hate WW, however, you really might want to check into Healthy Ways. I've heard good things about that class. It costs $125.00, which is the downside, but it probably averages out to the same was weight watchers in the long run. I think it is 10-12 weeks, and they go into healthy eating and all that stuff. They also weigh you regularly and that goes into your Kaiser record...which is why it helps get your approval for WLS. > > Anybody here taken that class at Kaiser? Was it valuable? > > Laurie > > > (unknown) > > > Hi everyone, > I am qith Laurie, where is everyone? We may be small but should > try to check in for short bits if we can. I went back to Weight > Watchers yesterday to see if I can give the WLS a boost. I am hoping > that if Kaiser sees that I am prepared to make this commitment they > will definitely approve me. I am also hoping they don't think " Hey, > she's going to lose weight in some other way, why should we bother > with her? " My pcp says to try anyway. Any loss will just be good > for me. The thing is I have a really bad track record with Weight > Watchers. I hate to have to pay the dues. Cheap of me I know, but, > that's just how I am. I would rather take that money and buy > something for my kids or house or put it towards a bill. I don't > work outside the home. I homeschool my youngest daughter due in > large part to her health (as yet undiagnosed unspecified connective > tissue disorder, or at least that's what her pcp says) and because I > hate the middle school she would have to attend. Bad experiences > with the other three there. I also do bookkeeping and babysitting to > try and bring in income. It is difficult to support a large family > on one income. I have this problem that makes it tough to get hired > in the public work place, Obesity, gross obesity. I have to say that > Target hired me probably because of my weight. I think they were > afraid I would sue or something. I loved that job. I had to quit > because of my daughters health but, I would love to go back. > Y'all give a few words will ya'? Good luck and GOD bless! > Tami > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Shell, you might want to look into having your surgery at Pacific Bariatric. I understand they waive the 10% weight loss requirement, and can get you in a lot faster. Kaiser pays for the patient's plane fare (books us two seats for one person, if we need it, on Southwest) and hotel room, in San Diego. You can bring a friend or family member, but Kaiser won't pay for their plane fare. I met someone at a support group in Sacramento that had the surgery there, and they had a really good experience. Pacific Bariatric has a web site - www.pbsmg.com if you want to check them out. They contract with Kaiser to perform the surgery on Kaiser patients. You probably know that Kaiser only pays for the open RNY procedure. One of the girls in another group is having the lap RNY with a new surgeon in So San Francisco, so I guess they're increasing their staff. They need to, as they only have staff to do 100 of these surgeries per year....and there had to be at least 200 people in the introductory meeting I attended in Sacramento alone. Laurie (unknown)> > > Hi everyone,> I am qith Laurie, where is everyone? We may be small but should > try to check in for short bits if we can. I went back to Weight > Watchers yesterday to see if I can give the WLS a boost. I am hoping > that if Kaiser sees that I am prepared to make this commitment they > will definitely approve me. I am also hoping they don't think "Hey, > she's going to lose weight in some other way, why should we bother > with her?" My pcp says to try anyway. Any loss will just be good > for me. The thing is I have a really bad track record with Weight > Watchers. I hate to have to pay the dues. Cheap of me I know, but, > that's just how I am. I would rather take that money and buy > something for my kids or house or put it towards a bill. I don't > work outside the home. I homeschool my youngest daughter due in > large part to her health (as yet undiagnosed unspecified connective > tissue disorder, or at least that's what her pcp says) and because I > hate the middle school she would have to attend. Bad experiences > with the other three there. I also do bookkeeping and babysitting to > try and bring in income. It is difficult to support a large family > on one income. I have this problem that makes it tough to get hired > in the public work place, Obesity, gross obesity. I have to say that > Target hired me probably because of my weight. I think they were > afraid I would sue or something. I loved that job. I had to quit > because of my daughters health but, I would love to go back. > Y'all give a few words will ya'? Good luck and GOD bless!> Tami> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Hi there Laurie. I agree. I would never go with a clinic that required weight loss before hand. Thats just me. I enjoyed every minute of my eating before I had this surgery and gained quite a bit! LOL I still would not change it. I still remember those yummy memories. LOL. I know quite a bit of patients that flew down for the surgery. It was very easy for them and all was taken care of. I did not hear one complaint. Oh and I know some Kaiser patients that went through the system within 3 to 6 months so not all will be a year wait. Pacific Bariatrics is the best. Period. Nothing more to say about it. I belong to 11 WLS groups and trust me it surpasses so many facilities. They have such good support groups and experienced surgeons. The best thing that you could do is to make it to one of there weight loss seminars. I know they host them in several cities all the time. I cant talk that much at the moment...Im shooting up some baby marines. =) I havent been around as of late since Ive gone back to work..I will try and write later. Yvette Laurie Warner wrote: Well, your experience is certainly encouraging, Shayne! So you had your surgery at Pacific Bariatrics? In San Diego, I assume? In order to qualify for surgery in South San Francisco, I was told by the program coordinator (Nadia somebody) that we have to lose 5% of our body weight to be given a surgery date, and another 5% before the actual surgery, or the surgery will be cancelled. That is soooooo distressing! I feel that if I could lose 32 pounds (I'm 321, needless to say!) and keep it off, I could just keep going on losing weight without the surgery. Does that make sense? I have, however, heard that Pacific Bariatric does not have the 10% weight loss requirement. How frustrating that if I want to have the surgery close to home, I have to do the weight loss pre-op...but if I go to San Diego, I can get on the surgery schedule ASAP. As both places are Kaiser-paid facilities, I just don't get it. Just thinking out loud here! Laurie Re: (unknown) Tami, To be honest I am so thankful I did not have a doctor or weight loss clinic that made me lose before the surgery. Only reason is I wanted have closer. I had just about everything before surgery. I think I gained 20lbs. Do I regret it? ummmm no way! I still look back at those memories believe it or not! I can still visulize that piece of cheesecake and chocolate cake! I took protein shakes...Pro Complex because its the only mix I know that has 4 carbs per serving while giving you 55 grams of protein! My doctor did my surgery OPEN and with an ACTIVE diseased gallbladder removal she did it in an hour. I do not put too much in to those who say your liver with shrink if you all of a sudden start losing weight. Maybe if it has always been a problem with your organs being too close or something. Not saying its not healthy to lose weight...just so happy I did not have to. I actually lost close to 50 lbs in 5 weeks! And I was eating away. Not stretching my pouch but eating several times a day. When I went down to 2 baby meals a day if that I have stayed at a plateau. Go figure! I do not stress it and once I see the scale stay at the same weight...out it goes. My whole attitude has been ...MELLOW YELLOW. I have way too many people who have had this surgery vary by so much...weight they lost..when they started eating..side effects...so on and so on. One of my friends lost only 20 pounds the first 5 weeks. Now in 2 weeks she lost close to 30! just never know what your body will do. My doctor said the best thing I did was take Prenatal vitamins, Vitamin C (throat longenzes) and protein shakes. She said instead of sewing up wet carboard..it was like sewing up a firm orange peel! Anyway never thought my big flabby stretch marked stomach would win prizes with anyone. I think I walked twice a week around a few blocks with my kids a week before surgery. Do not stress it. Do what you can and you will be fine. If you smoke definately would be in your best interest to stop or cut back as much as possible. Oh and start blowing up balloons all day long so to work on those lung muscles!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have to admit I was one prepared puppy considering i had 4 days notice before I went under the knife. Anyway enough pats on the back for me! Hugs Yvette teeleeq wrote: Yvette,I am glad to hear that you have had no complications. It gives me hope that things may go well with me. I am trying to lose weight still and am giong to add more exercise to my life to try and make recooperating easier and faster. Any hints on how to do that? Tami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Hi Yvette, Im so glad you posted its nice to see you here again! Well I did not think I really had a choice about losing the weight. Laurie thanks for the web sight now in san diego i called but it was 5pm so they were closed. Im going to call when I get home form work tomorrow first thing. I might even call if I have some time at work. It sounds like a wonderful place and Yvette did you say you new people who had it there? I think you said they were great. Im hoping to find out more information tomorrow. Thanks ladys P.S please this out this link to anyone in the kaiser meetings to:) Yvette, > I am glad to hear that you have had no complications. It gives me > hope that things may go well with me. I am trying to lose weight > still and am giong to add more exercise to my life to try and make > recooperating easier and faster. Any hints on how to do that? Tami > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 I have a friend who lives here in San Diego who went through Kaiser. We had surgery the same day at Scripps Mercy through Pacific Bariatrics. She said she did not have to lose ANY weight to get the surgery. She did show the doctor a long list of diets she tried...just like I did. You all did go in prepared? A list of diets and such and weight you have lost through out the years and gained back? Im sure you did. Who is saying you have to lose ten percent of your weight? Kaiser or you primary doctor? Yvette shell793 wrote: Hi everyone!,Boy oh boy do i understand the stress of having to lose the 10% i am of the same mind set, if i could lost 35 why not 70 and so on? I am not sure i read right, if i have it at san diego i dont have to? Gezz its almost worth it as i see no way to lose the 35 pounds. I had the idea of doing the liqued diet for three weeks i no that would work. I had to wait about 6 weeks to get a letter back from them to tell me i was approved. Now im waitin again. The appoveal letter said yes your approved ,well contact you with in 12 weeks. Its been 4. I sure hope its not going to take a year to do this.I started thos last may. I just want to get this over and start loseing weight and start healing. I am so glad you all are here!! Its great to talk to other from kaiser your all helping me a great deal! well once again its 6am and im off to work!Have a great day Shell > > Yvette,> I am glad to hear that you have had no complications. It gives me > hope that things may go well with me. I am trying to lose weight > still and am giong to add more exercise to my life to try and make > recooperating easier and faster. Any hints on how to do that? Tami> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Yvette, Kaiser's nutritionist, Bariatric Program Coordinator (Nadia), and my PCP all told me that Kaiser requires a 10% weight loss prior to surgery *at Kaiser*. But if we have the surgery at Pacific Bariatrics, the rules are different. The reason, as I understand it, is that they *contract* with Kaiser, and follow their own rules. The Kaiser requirement, pertaining only to SSF and any other Kaiser facility that does the surgery without contracting out, is to lose 5% before they will schedule you, then 5% between being scheduled and the actual surgery. I don't know about calling Pacific Bariatric directly, however. I think we still have to go through the Bariatric Program Coordinator (based in South San Francisco). Laurie Re: Re: (unknown) I have a friend who lives here in San Diego who went through Kaiser. We had surgery the same day at Scripps Mercy through Pacific Bariatrics. She said she did not have to lose ANY weight to get the surgery. She did show the doctor a long list of diets she tried...just like I did. You all did go in prepared? A list of diets and such and weight you have lost through out the years and gained back? Im sure you did. Who is saying you have to lose ten percent of your weight? Kaiser or you primary doctor? Yvette shell793 wrote: Hi everyone!,Boy oh boy do i understand the stress of having to lose the 10% i am of the same mind set, if i could lost 35 why not 70 and so on? I am not sure i read right, if i have it at san diego i dont have to? Gezz its almost worth it as i see no way to lose the 35 pounds. I had the idea of doing the liqued diet for three weeks i no that would work. I had to wait about 6 weeks to get a letter back from them to tell me i was approved. Now im waitin again. The appoveal letter said yes your approved ,well contact you with in 12 weeks. Its been 4. I sure hope its not going to take a year to do this.I started thos last may. I just want to get this over and start loseing weight and start healing. I am so glad you all are here!! Its great to talk to other from kaiser your all helping me a great deal! well once again its 6am and im off to work!Have a great day Shell > > Yvette,> I am glad to hear that you have had no complications. It gives me > hope that things may go well with me. I am trying to lose weight > still and am giong to add more exercise to my life to try and make > recooperating easier and faster. Any hints on how to do that? Tami> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 Tamara, Your weight loss counts from Orientation... not your surgeon's meeting. Although, it's really up to your surgeon on how much he wants you to lose... but sweetie... it counts from the time you weigh in at Orientation... so, if you have already been to Orientation, all you've lost COUNTS!! Terrae S. vetnurse @ ecis.com Approved Surgeon: W. Umbach, MD"Self-awareness is the beginning to self-discovery..." -----Original Message-----From: Tamara Quenga Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:00 PMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: (unknown)Hey Y'all!! How is everyone? I hope you are all well. I have now lost 18.3 pounds, in 2 weeks, and am totally bummed to hear that the weight loss does not count until my first appt. with the surgeon. That sucks *!#! through the hen house floor. Oh well, I can handle it. Just means I will be a little healthier and a little lighter at surgery. I am doing okay with the W.W. but, I know me and if it won't make me sick or kill me I'll eat it sooner or later. I need this WLS to stop me. If I know that I can't have something because it is really bad for me I won't do it, like I quit smoking "COLD TURKEY" five years ago and even though I crave one everyday I have not had even one since the day I quit. I still dream about smoking and wake up with an incredible urge to inhale. I have not been able to put food in that category yet. I feel that the surgery will do that for me. If anything will make me sick, I won't touch it. I am told that some foods will make you sick and that I have to say scares me silly. I hate, no, beyond hate, I loathe being ill. I have a fear of vomitting and will do just about anything to not. Sorry, I know I am being long winded here and I will stop, for now, my family can hear this all again in a little bit because I am all stirred up now. Maybe I should go for a walk. Tami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 Tami, Please do not feel uncomfortable about sharing and "going on" about yourself. It is when we start putting light on all those dark places in our life that the healing begins. These email lists and the support groups were created to provide caring, nonjudgmental support in a safe environment. Thanks for coming to the Vallejo meeting and sharing with us. I'm glad you were there and I look forward to seeing you again next month. Hugs, Pat B. -----Original Message-----From: Tamara Quenga Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 6:23 AMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: (unknown)Hi all! I went to my second support group meeting in Vallejo last night and just loved all the great info I picked up. I love listening to all these people. They are bright, funny and articulate. I wanted to have everyone of them for a friend. I don't know if it is the fact that we have suffered many different things that brought us to this point but, I think people who are having and have had major weight issues are pretty spectacular human beings. I am getting excited about going to the meetings in SSF. I am an agoraphobic and at times have not left my room let alone my house for weeks at a time. I thought I would feel vulnerable and would have an anxiety or panic attack. I feel no threat at all. I can't put it into words well enough to explain just how much this means to me. I told someone last night that the reason I started out wanting this surgery was to get to a size more like the rest of the populace. I wanted to hide again. I was severly traumatized as a child, my abuse so horrendous I believe that is what began my weight loss. I remember "Roseanne" saying on Oprah one time that those who have suffered sexual abuse will have the pendulous stomach. I know that mine has been around since I started to gain weight. I only wieghed 200lb. at the age of seventeen when I married (at 5'10) but, by nineteen and after one child and one miscarriage I weighed in at 350. I basically stayed that weight (with losses and gains) for 15 years. Then I had sleep apnea and quit smoking and gained another 100lb without really even noticing. I was already wearing size 30-32and kept wearing that size only everything fit tighter. I don't want to be thin, I want to be smaller. I don't want to stand out anymore. I am so relieved to have been approved and am looking forward to time flying until surgery. I should really stop going on about myself. Have a blessed day everyone. Tami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 Pat, Have you had your surgery yet? If so was it at ssf > Tami, > Please do not feel uncomfortable about sharing and " going on " about yourself. It is when we start putting light on all those dark places in our life that the healing begins. These email lists and the support groups were created to provide caring, nonjudgmental support in a safe environment. Thanks for coming to the Vallejo meeting and sharing with us. I'm glad you were there and I look forward to seeing you again next month. > > Hugs, > Pat B. > > (unknown) > > > Hi all! > I went to my second support group meeting in Vallejo last night > and just loved all the great info I picked up. I love listening to > all these people. They are bright, funny and articulate. I wanted > to have everyone of them for a friend. I don't know if it is the > fact that we have suffered many different things that brought us to > this point but, I think people who are having and have had major > weight issues are pretty spectacular human beings. > I am getting excited about going to the meetings in SSF. I am > an agoraphobic and at times have not left my room let alone my house > for weeks at a time. I thought I would feel vulnerable and would > have an anxiety or panic attack. I feel no threat at all. I can't > put it into words well enough to explain just how much this means to > me. > I told someone last night that the reason I started out wanting > this surgery was to get to a size more like the rest of the > populace. I wanted to hide again. I was severly traumatized as a > child, my abuse so horrendous I believe that is what began my weight > loss. I remember " Roseanne " saying on Oprah one time that those who > have suffered sexual abuse will have the pendulous stomach. I know > that mine has been around since I started to gain weight. I only > wieghed 200lb. at the age of seventeen when I married (at 5'10) but, > by nineteen and after one child and one miscarriage I weighed in at > 350. I basically stayed that weight (with losses and gains) for 15 > years. Then I had sleep apnea and quit smoking and gained another > 100lb without really even noticing. I was already wearing size 30-32 > and kept wearing that size only everything fit tighter. > I don't want to be thin, I want to be smaller. I don't want to > stand out anymore. I am so relieved to have been approved and am > looking forward to time flying until surgery. > I should really stop going on about myself. Have a blessed day > everyone. Tami > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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