Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 Hi Kay: I guess you were writing to me cause you were talking about smoking. Well, the transplant team told us how hard it is to get off the ventilator when you are a smoker so I decided I would quit and make it easier on myself. I still want one real bad though. God has also been speaking to my heart about it. Take care and have a good week. Genny/Jodi's Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 Hi All, Because of my frying my lungs. I will never regain the lung function as before. I only have 48% lung function. gayle/trans 6-99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 Gayle, I'm so sorry you're having a hard time. Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 Harper, Thanks I find life to be a challenge anymore. And to think before transplant I liked living on the edge. gayle/trans.6-99 galye@... bmb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 Hello, I am a smoker, and have tried to quit, my dr. gave me wellbutrin, and that didn't even help, if I didn't smoke I " d eat! HELP! How do I kick the habit? Gloria in Mi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 smoking Tina.... Have him do yoga breathing exercises every day. Another method that I discovered by chance.....every night....IMMEDIATELY before he puts his head on the pillow to go to sleep, have him write out in longhand, 90 times, " no smoke " . (Leave out the quotation marks).....he may use a plain piece of ruled school paper. For some reason, the act of writing out 'no smoke' in longhand (NOT block letters) 90 times immediately before falling asleep, imprints it into the unconscious. If he does this faithfully every night, smoking will quit him. Make him promise to do this every night for at least a year to eliminate the temptation of starting again. It will start working slowly and he will hardly notice that he is smoking less at first but eventually, it will be as if he has started 'forgetting' to smoke. You may also want to get a copy of the book " Super Power Breathing for Super Energy " by Dr. Bragg. www.bragg.com You are right that the gums and drugs are harmful and really don't work very well.......Betsy > My 21 year old son wants to quit smoking. Do any of you know of any ways to > help him that aren't harmful? He knows that smoking is harmful, but he > doesn't want to take drugs with side effects. He has already tried lobelia, > like Dr. Schulze suggested and got no relief. > Thanks, Tina > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 I think writing something over and over is very effective. It is my understanding that for an affirmation to work, it must be worded in a positive form. In other words, if you're trying to forget something, you wouldn't repeat the words to yourself over and over, like " I won't be hungry. I won't be hungry. " Then you starve. You'd say something (for smoking) like, " Good health " or " I breathe pure air. " Those aren't great examples, but they are phrases that elicit a positive feeling. If you're talking about a different kind of practice all together, then I apologize for butting in.... Marsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Re: smoking Yes, usually for affirmations and hypnosis it should be done in a positive form such as, " I am free of the desire to smoke " . But in this case, it is direct imprinting, done immediately before you go to sleep and has a different set of rules. It works.....Betsy > I think writing something over and over is very effective. It is my > understanding that for an affirmation to work, it must be worded in a > positive form. In other words, if you're trying to forget something, you > wouldn't repeat the words to yourself over and over, like " I won't be > hungry. I won't be hungry. " Then you starve. You'd say something (for > smoking) like, " Good health " or " I breathe pure air. " Those aren't great > examples, but they are phrases that elicit a positive feeling. > > If you're talking about a different kind of practice all together, then > I apologize for butting in.... > > Marsha > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 At 03:20 PM 2/28/2002 -0800, you wrote: >My 21 year old son wants to quit smoking. Do any of you know of any ways to >help him that aren't harmful? I used a small computer device that was programmed to tell me when to smoke. By smoking normally for a 2-3 day period and entering when into the computer it made a custom program. The number of cigarettes went from about 15 a day to zero over a period of 3 1/2 weeks. It used to be advertised on TV but I haven't seen it for quite a few years. You might want have a look at " Emotional Freedom Techniques " http://123eft.com/ http://www.emofree.com/ http://www.emofree.com/addiction.htm Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Hi Marsha, You took the words right out of my mouth! Was thinking the exact same thing. Affirmations have to be positive. It works by the same way with children. We don't say....DON'T hit...we say keep your hands to yourself. Cause the last word the child hears in " don't hit " is hit. Same would hold true with smoking...if you thought or wrote...no smoke, then the last thing your mind would hear would be " smoke " Peace, Denny > I think writing something over and over is very effective. It is my > understanding that for an affirmation to work, it must be worded in a > positive form. In other words, if you're trying to forget something, you > wouldn't repeat the words to yourself over and over, like " I won't be > hungry. I won't be hungry. " Then you starve. You'd say something (for > smoking) like, " Good health " or " I breathe pure air. " Those aren't great > examples, but they are phrases that elicit a positive feeling. > > If you're talking about a different kind of practice all together, then > I apologize for butting in.... > > Marsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Hey Bob, That sounds like a cool program. Do you remember the name of it? I've seen programs that supposedly do subliminal messages on your computer but none like what you are describing. Thanks, Denny > >My 21 year old son wants to quit smoking. Do any of you know of any ways to > >help him that aren't harmful? > > > I used a small computer device that was programmed to tell me when to > smoke. By smoking normally for a 2-3 day period and entering when into the > computer it made a custom program. The number of cigarettes went from about > 15 a day to zero over a period of 3 1/2 weeks. > > It used to be advertised on TV but I haven't seen it for quite a few years. > > You might want have a look at " Emotional Freedom Techniques " > > http://123eft.com/ > http://www.emofree.com/ > > http://www.emofree.com/addiction.htm > > Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Tina, My daughter quit using homeopathy. She tried to quit a few times before too.....but this time seems to have worked for her. If interested you might try going to a local health food store and asking what they have on hand, homeopathically, herbally as well as nutritionally. I believe they all work together and have a great synergistic effect. Best of luck to her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Re: smoking Imprinting and affirmations are not the same. I agree that all affirmations need to be worded in a positive way but direct imprinting when you are sleepy and about to sleep through the night has different rules. " No smoke " enters the brain as a negative behavior pattern so the brain then starts the process of shutting down the mechanisms that see smoking as a desirable and necessary behavior. Hope this makes sense although I know it goes against the grain of popular belief. Betsy Denny wrote: > You took the words right out of my mouth! Was thinking the exact same > thing. Affirmations have to be positive. It works by the same way > with children. We don't say....DON'T hit...we say keep your hands to > yourself. Cause the last word the child hears in " don't hit " is hit. > Same would hold true with smoking...if you thought or wrote...no > smoke, then the last thing your mind would hear would be " smoke " > > Peace, > Denny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Betsy, >> " No smoke " enters the brain as a negative behavior pattern so the brain then starts the process of shutting down the mechanisms that see smoking as a desirable and necessary behavior.<< Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. Marsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 They have a few different preparations listed on this site for stopping smoking. Look under the 's' for smoking relief or stop smoking. http://www.greencanyon.com/products/indexp.htm Denny > Thank you all for your tips on how to quit smoking. Has anyone gotten any > help from herbs or other treatments? I've seen a lot advertised on TV, but > now that he wants to quit, I don't see them. I've heard about herbal > products on the radio, but same story. > Thank you again, > Tina in Idaho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 At 11:09 AM 3/1/2002 +0000, you wrote: >Hey Bob, > >That sounds like a cool program. Do you remember the name of it? >I've seen programs that supposedly do subliminal messages on your >computer but none like what you are describing. > >Thanks, >Denny I did a few searches and found it. It's called LifeSign http://www.lifesign.com/ From their web site: How The LifeSign Program Works During STAGES 1 and 2: You'll use the Monitor called " LifeSign. " In the first stage, you'll push LifeSign's SMOKE button to record your smoking habits-how often you smoke and when you smoke. LifeSign uses this information to form your personal quit plan. STAGE 1 takes 7 days. During STAGE 2: LifeSign helps you to follow your quit plan and to withdraw slowly and easily from cigarettes. STAGE 2 can take from a little more than a week to about 28 days depending on your smoking habits. During STAGE 3: You'll find out what many ex-smokers know: " There is life after cigarettes. " This Guide helps you to start a life in which you feel better and more in control of your health and your future. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Hi Bob, Thanks for the additional info and website. Couldn't find the spot on the site where you order it, but finally did find it and the price. Regards, Denny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 I heard an excellent recommendation to help with cravings when quitting. I am not a smoker, so if anyone tries this, please let me know how it goes for you. This is from a raw foods bulletin board, here is the link to the site http://www.rawfoodsupport.com/ Here is the text from the original posting " Orange juice. Large amounts of citric acid detox the nicotine from your system. Drink some orange juice every time you want a puff. The taste of a cigarette right after the orange juice is disgusting. I quit in 3 days by drinking it (I didn't wait for a craving.) On the 4th day I couldn't take any more of the stuff (I had been thru about 7 quarts.) Amazingly, I never had a craving for a smoke after that. That was over 7 years ago. " Good luck with quitting, it is tough! _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 kmj134@... writes: > WHAT IS THE CONNECTION OF SMOKING AND BOWELCLEANSE ???? > One connection is that if a person is attempting to do any kind of internal cleansing, smoking is counterproductive. If a person is trying to cleanse toxins, it only makes sense to not add any more toxins while they're doing so. So...if a person quits smoking it will assist in the cleansing process rather than hindering it. Even though I don't smoke, I appreciate the information that has been shared because I have a friend who recently attempted to quit and went through incredible withdrawal (partly because he quit smoking and caffeine at the same time). There have been some suggestions made here that I will pass along to him and I know he will appreciate it. in health, rachel~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 WHAT IS THE CONNECTION OF SMOKING AND BOWELCLEANSE ???? >From: " sophia suhu " <ssuhu@...> >Reply-bowel cleanse >bowel cleanse >Subject: re: smoking >Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 08:37:50 -0600 > >I heard an excellent recommendation to help with cravings when quitting. I >am not a smoker, so if anyone tries this, please let me know how it goes >for >you. This is from a raw foods bulletin board, here is the link to the site > >http://www.rawfoodsupport.com/ > >Here is the text from the original posting > > " Orange juice. Large amounts of citric acid detox the nicotine from your >system. Drink some orange juice every time you want a puff. The taste of a >cigarette right after the orange juice is disgusting. I quit in 3 days by >drinking it (I didn't wait for a craving.) On the 4th day I couldn't take >any more of the stuff (I had been thru about 7 quarts.) Amazingly, I never >had a craving for a smoke after that. That was over 7 years ago. " > >Good luck with quitting, it is tough! > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > I _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 >I was very lucky many years ago to work for a company that offered a >stop smoking program called 'Smokeless'. It us usually offerred by >major hospitals. I was smoke free for 5 years but started again. I >was able to quit quite easily this time when I went into the hospital >and my husband has been very supportive. He quit with me - he has a >better incentive though - his company pays employees $500 to quit! >Good luck - it's not easy.>> Hey!!! I wanna work there!!! LOLOL I agree....it isn't easy at all! I really think it is the habit thing that is the worst part to give up. I hate all the coughing, hard to catch my breath part of it. Good for you and hubby! GO ROBIN GO!!!!!!!!!! And good for Vicki as well! Ask me about my new MSM lotion for aches/pains! http://www.scentsappeal.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 > And good for Vicki as well!< LOL...I want the $500 incentitive! Seriously...I wasn't able to quit but did go from 2 packs a day to less than one. The main thing that helped was forbidding myself to smoke inside the house. I go outside or in the garage now. My doctors and the instructor all agreed that I picked a bad time to quit because of the life stresses involving my back. So I am proud of what I have been able to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 In a message dated 1/20/03 11:32:03 AM, chezmolly@... writes: << Good luck - it's not easy >> Thanks hon. Good for you!!!!!!!! I just need to refocus on the dieting (I'm down to the last 20lbs--and it's just as important for back surgery). Last time I quit (years ago) I started gaining a lot of weight and then started smoking again. If I can get a handle on that, I'll be ok (I keep saying that over and over lol). Anyway, quite an accomplishment for both you and your hubby! Thanks for the kind words. Appreciate them much. Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 In a message dated 1/20/03 12:28:41 PM, Ckelly@... writes: << GO ROBIN GO!!!!!!!!!! >> you are the sweetest!!!! Thanks hon. I really appreciate the support. Now someone pass THE COOKIE!!!!! No no I mean't celery stick.....lol. Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 In a message dated 1/20/03 1:23:08 PM, sweetdreamsk9@... writes: << .I wasn't able to quit but did go from 2 packs a day to less than one. The main thing that helped was forbidding myself to smoke inside the house. I go outside or in the garage now. My doctors and the instructor all agreed that I picked a bad time to quit because of the life stresses involving my back. So I am proud of what I have been able to do. >> YOU GO!! I live alone but never smoked in my house, always outside. It helped. Best of luck. Do what you gotta do. I only quit cuz the doctors said I had to before surgery (and said I had to lose all the weight I'd gained laying in bed too). IT SUCKS!!!! When you're ready....or forced...lol....hang in there. Robin Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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