Guest guest Posted July 6, 2000 Report Share Posted July 6, 2000 Pam what kind of cleanse do you do? {{{HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie *****************************With God, ALL things are possible.***************************** I do similar 6-day fasts, and love what they do for me. Also, you'll start to feel unbelievably good after a few days, Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2000 Report Share Posted July 20, 2000 Dearest Bonnie, I am so proud of you for giving this a try. I think you will find that after your body has a chance to adjust after your cleanse that you should see a reduction in your stomach area. You are so right about the fact that you have given yourself a gift by eating the fruits and vegetables along with the detox, cleanse. Be kind to yourself and give yourself the credit you deserve for making the effort you have. You are one incredible woman. Many who do not see results right away just give up. You are so determined and I just know that one day all of this will pay off for you. I have been praying for you daily and I will continue to keep you in my heart and prayers. I wish I could reach through this computer and give you a hug. I guess a big cyber hug will have to do. Love, Rashelle -- Hi guys, Well I just now broke my cleansing fast. Last night after I took my last pills for the day at 8:00, I threw up. I felt terrible. I can handle the aches and stuff, but NOT throwing up! body. As far as being any smaller, can't say that I am :-( However, I'm sure I'm more healthy! And I'll let you know by eating just fruits and raw/steamed vegetables and taking the cleanse and detox how it goes. I'll still {{{HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie *****************************With God, ALL things are possible.***************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2000 Report Share Posted July 20, 2000 Bonnie - I am THRILLED you even tried this cleanse. You were scared and you stepped out and DID it!! I'm sure you are more healthy becuase of it. I am praying that you feel much better and that you have a new lease on life!!! Hang in there kiddo! Cristi --- Bonnie <block312@...> wrote: > Hi guys, > Well I just now broke my cleansing fast. Last night > after I took my last pills for the day at 8:00, I > threw up. I felt terrible. I can handle the aches > and stuff, but NOT throwing up! And also, said > he wanted me to stop. Anyway, I'm eating a pear. I > think I'll still take the Detox and cleanser, but > like it says on the bottle, only twice a day. I'm > still going to mind what I put in my body. As far as > being any smaller, can't say that I am :-( > However, I'm sure I'm more healthy! And I'll let you > know by eating just fruits and raw/steamed > vegetables and taking the cleanse and detox how it > goes. I'll still take enemas/colemas. I hate I > couldn't go the whole 7 days, but I promise, I can > handle almost anything except being sick on the > stomach! I had a really hard time getting the last > dose of cleanser down and the last pills were hard > to get down too. Seemed like they didn't want to go > down. However, VERY shortly after they did go down, > I was sick. It was weird though. I didn't see any > signs of the pills, just liquid. Hoping I'm not > grossing anyone out. I just wanted to let you know > how it went for me. Karma is a tough one LOL My > health store owner does the cleanse too. I just > couldn't hang after getting sick. So if you're > thinking of doing it, go for it. I really DO think > it is VERY beneficial. And I'm praying that eating > just fruits and vegetables and taking the cleanse, > will still get the bad stuff out. So, that's it ya > all. Have a great day! > {{{HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie > ***************************** > With God, ALL things are possible. > ***************************** > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2000 Report Share Posted July 20, 2000 Thanks sis :-) Especially for your prayers! {{{HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie *****************************With God, ALL things are possible.***************************** Bonnie -I am THRILLED you even tried this cleanse. You werescared and you stepped out and DID it!! I'm sure youare more healthy becuase of it. I am praying that youfeel much better and that you have a new lease onlife!!!Hang in there kiddo!Cristi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2000 Report Share Posted July 20, 2000 Hi Bonnie, You did great! Don't be discouraged that you didn't do 7 days. They even told you in the beginning to do it for a few days, if a cleansing fast is new to you. You hung in there and gave it your best shot. I'm so proud of you! Job well done! I'm continuing to pray for you. Love, Liz ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2000 Report Share Posted July 20, 2000 Bonnie, You did good making it as far as you did. I am glad that you are continuing with the detox products on a daily basis. Throwing up happens when you get toxic from parasites dying. If you feel up to it, try doing a parasite cleanse only to get rid of what was bothering you. Keep taking the bentonite, psyllium. Then add a parasite killer. For the Intestinal parasites, Black Walnut Hulls works really good. So does worm wood. Be sure to continue with the enemas/colonics and psyllium/bentonite also. This should get rid of the parasites that are causing you to feel yucky. Let me know if you need more information. Sincerely,Karmahttp://loaves-n-fishes.com 25% Savings on Name Brand Vitamins and Food Supplements! Free $5.00! at this link! https://secure.paypal.x.com/refer/pal=karma%40loaves-n-fishes.com Cleanse Hi guys, Well I just now broke my cleansing fast. Last night after I took my last pills for the day at 8:00, I threw up. I felt terrible. I can handle the aches and stuff, but NOT throwing up! And also, said he wanted me to stop. Anyway, I'm eating a pear. I think I'll still take the Detox and cleanser, but like it says on the bottle, only twice a day. I'm still going to mind what I put in my body. As far as being any smaller, can't say that I am :-( However, I'm sure I'm more healthy! And I'll let you know by eating just fruits and raw/steamed vegetables and taking the cleanse and detox how it goes. I'll still take enemas/colemas. I hate I couldn't go the whole 7 days, but I promise, I can handle almost anything except being sick on the stomach! I had a really hard time getting the last dose of cleanser down and the last pills were hard to get down too. Seemed like they didn't want to go down. However, VERY shortly after they did go down, I was sick. It was weird though. I didn't see any signs of the pills, just liquid. Hoping I'm not grossing anyone out. I just wanted to let you know how it went for me. Karma is a tough one LOL My health store owner does the cleanse too. I just couldn't hang after getting sick. So if you're thinking of doing it, go for it. I really DO think it is VERY beneficial. And I'm praying that eating just fruits and vegetables and taking the cleanse, will still get the bad stuff out. So, that's it ya all. Have a great day! {{{HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie *****************************With God, ALL things are possible.*****************************Please use our list bookstore In Association with Amazon.com If you are looking for anything, please click on this link first! Thanks! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/karmasrecommerea/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2000 Report Share Posted July 21, 2000 Rashelle, What can I say that hasn't already been said?You are one of the sweetest, kindness, loving, giving, caring people I know. Liz's song hit it on the head :-) Don't you worry about me sis. You just rest and take care of yourself. I'm so glad that your Dad isn't suffering and that all you children can be there for your him AND your Mom. And glad to hear your son-in-law is doing well. This is all good news!!!! You just keep on holding on to God's hand and all will be well for you. He'll be there for you. You KNOW that. It's great that you're able to be with your Dad and I know you bring him so much joy. I was SO happy when I got on-line and saw your posts!! I really missed you sis. God bless you for keeping me in your prayers. You know how much I believe in prayer :-) And I love people to pray for me. No one can ever get too much prayer :-) I really appreciate that Rashelle. I read where you said you were going to find an answer for me and , and you know what, I believe you will probably do just that :-) You think my stomach may go down even though I stopped after 3 days? I sure hope so. Oh well, if it's the Lord's will, it will! :-) Thanks for the hug BIG :-) Take care sis. My love and prayers, Bonnie *****************************With God, ALL things are possible.***************************** Dearest Bonnie, I am so proud of you for giving this a try. I think you will find that after your body has a chance to adjust after your cleanse that you should see a reduction in your stomach area. You are so right about the fact that you have given yourself a gift by eating the fruits and vegetables along with the detox, cleanse. Be kind to yourself and give yourself the credit you deserve for making the effort you have. You are one incredible woman. Many who do not see results right away just give up. You are so determined and I just know that one day all of this will pay off for you. I have been praying for you daily and I will continue to keep you in my heart and prayers. I wish I could reach through this computer and give you a hug. I guess a big cyber hug will have to do. Love, Rashelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2000 Report Share Posted July 21, 2000 Thanks Karma, I thank God I made it for the 3 days. Actually, I threw up because I just couldn't swallow any more stuff LOL It was all I could do to swallow the pills! I'm serious. You STILL think it's because parasites were dying? Yeah, I am going to continue taking the psyllium/bentonite along with the black walnut hulls. I also have some Paragone from NewLife. I think I'll add them too. And I'll continue with the enemas/colonics also. I hope you know I really appreciate how you answered my questions, and have been here for me. {{{HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie *****************************With God, ALL things are possible.***************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2000 Report Share Posted July 21, 2000 Hello precious Bonnie, This message is a treasure, coming from you. I have the deepest love and respect for you and your opinion is very special to me. If there is one thing you can take to the bank, it is that you are always in my heart and in my daily prayers. I was helping pack some orders tonight and as I was saying my prayers that all those receiving their orders would find success in what they were striving for, I thought of you. I said another prayer that you will finally realize your dreams and reach the goals you are striving for. Most of all, I want you to be healthy and have your body functioning perfectly. You deserve nothing less. I know that there must be a very good reason that you have had to struggle like this, maybe it is to show us all what real determination and stamina is, but whatever the reason, I also believe that you will finally overcome all the obstacles presented to you and you will succeed. Yes, Bonnie, dear, I do believe it makes sense that in a few days when your body gets back to normal after your cleanse, that you could see just what you are hoping for. I pray this is true. Love to you, as always, Rashelle Rashelle, What can I say that hasn't already been said?You are one of the sweetest, kindness, loving, giving, caring people I know. Liz's song hit it on the head :-) Don't you worry about me sis. You just rest and take care of yourself. I'm so glad that your Dad isn't suffering and that all you children can be there for your him AND your Mom. And glad to hear your son-in-law is doing well. This is all good news!!!! You just keep on holding on to God's hand and all will be well for you. He'll be there for you. You KNOW that. It's great that you're able to be with your Dad and I know you bring him so much joy. I was SO happy when I got on-line and saw your posts!! I really missed you sis. God bless you for keeping me in your prayers. You know how much I believe in prayer :-) And I love people to pray for me. No one can ever get too much prayer :-) I really appreciate that Rashelle. I read where you said you were going to find an answer for me and , and you know what, I believe you will probably do just that :-) You think my stomach may go down even though I stopped after 3 days? I sure hope so. Oh well, if it's the Lord's will, it will! :-) Thanks for the hug BIG :-) Take care sis. My love and prayers, Bonnie *****************************With God, ALL things are possible.***************************** Dearest Bonnie, I am so proud of you for giving this a try. I think you will find that after your body has a chance to adjust after your cleanse that you should see a reduction in your stomach area. You are so right about the fact that you have given yourself a gift by eating the fruits and vegetables along with the detox, cleanse. Be kind to yourself and give yourself the credit you deserve for making the effort you have. You are one incredible woman. Many who do not see results right away just give up. You are so determined and I just know that one day all of this will pay off for you. I have been praying for you daily and I will continue to keep you in my heart and prayers. I wish I could reach through this computer and give you a hug. I guess a big cyber hug will have to do. Love, RashellePlease use our list bookstore In Association with Amazon.com If you are looking for anything, please click on this link first! Thanks! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/karmasrecommerea/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2000 Report Share Posted July 21, 2000 Hi Bonnie, I'm curious how did you get the parasites? Is the cleanse on Rashelle's site? Does everyone have parasites and is it good to cleanse every now and then? Thanks, Kellie Re: Cleanse Thanks Karma, I thank God I made it for the 3 days. Actually, I threw up because I just couldn't swallow any more stuff LOL It was all I could do to swallow the pills! I'm serious. You STILL think it's because parasites were dying? Yeah, I am going to continue taking the psyllium/bentonite along with the black walnut hulls. I also have some Paragone from NewLife. I think I'll add them too. And I'll continue with the enemas/colonics also. I hope you know I really appreciate how you answered my questions, and have been here for me. {{{HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie *****************************With God, ALL things are possible.*****************************Please use our list bookstore In Association with Amazon.com If you are looking for anything, please click on this link first! Thanks! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/karmasrecommerea/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2000 Report Share Posted July 21, 2000 Hi Kellie, I am off to bed in a few minutes, but I wanted to answer this for you. It is very common for us to get parasites from the food we eat. I use the wormwood and black walnut often, as well as a regular colon cleanse. I don't eat much meat, but it can come from many things we eat, so I like to be careful. I first learned of this from a book called "A cure for all cancers" I do not follow the whole program that is described there, but I do find that taking the black walnut and wormwood combination makes me feel so much better. I can actually tell when I take it that my body feels healthier and more alive. I don't carry the full blown cleanse on my web sites, however Karma carries many of these products on her web sites so I would suggest you go to her sites and check it out. I know she gives a great discount on her products too, so that makes it even better. You can write to her at karma@... to ask her more. I do carry the colon clenze on my web sites, but that is more of a daily mild cleanse. It is one I have used for years. I hope this helps you. If you need more information there has been a lot of talk about the cleanses lately here on the group discussion. I am sure you will get lots of help from others. Good luck with this, Kellie. Take care, Rashelle Be sure to check out all of the great specials available on my web sites. All new workout videos are on sale now!Save $30 on the Large Body Wrap package. The sale has been extended until July 31stVisit us at http://www.lifelift.com or http://www.angelmagic.com. All other web sites belong to distributors, these are my personal web sites.Join our discussion group at LifeLift-subscribe@... Re: Cleanse Thanks Karma, I thank God I made it for the 3 days. Actually, I threw up because I just couldn't swallow any more stuff LOL It was all I could do to swallow the pills! I'm serious. You STILL think it's because parasites were dying? Yeah, I am going to continue taking the psyllium/bentonite along with the black walnut hulls. I also have some Paragone from NewLife. I think I'll add them too. And I'll continue with the enemas/colonics also. I hope you know I really appreciate how you answered my questions, and have been here for me. {{{HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie *****************************With God, ALL things are possible.*****************************Please use our list bookstore In Association with Amazon.com If you are looking for anything, please click on this link first! Thanks! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/karmasrecommerea/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2000 Report Share Posted July 21, 2000 You're the one who is precious !!! You always make me feel so special :-) You really don't know how much I appreciate your prayers. And I was reading the comment about us not having to worry about you leaving in response to the statement that you could have made and sold the tapes and then went on, instead of being here for all of us. Well, you know I've always told you sis, that you go way beyond the regular business person. I've always admired how you jump right in here and join our discussions and give share your valuable knowledge and products. How you joined us and treat us like friends and not customers. That means a lot to me. Puts you in a special class most business people will never see! I can say for myself and I'm very sure everyone else, we love you very, very much, Rashelle. You have made a difference in ALL of our lives one way or another. Your sweet, loving, gentle nature would have been more than enough, but you go way beyond that. Know that you are very special to me and I thank God for bringing you in my life. You're always here for me trying to find the answers I need. You'll never know how much that means to me. I hope it's God's will that one day I can get from you and give you to you, a REAL hug! In the meantime, I send many along, with my love and prayers :-) I thank you for your encouragement, and determination to help me find my answers. Believe me, outside of God, it's because of you and others on this list that I feel the strength to keep trying. I almost feel I'd be letting ya all down! God MAY be using me to show you should never give up, and if you just keep trying, things will happen. That's very possible. I hadn't thought of it like that. I DO believe that my day is going to come. I can SEE myself small again with a flat stomach. And that's half the battle! Besides, so many prayers have and are going up for me :-) And He DID say He would give me the desires of my heart if I served Him :-) So..................I'm believing for it. When you start back making the tapes, I STILL want to be the first one to get the weight loss affirmation tape! I was serious about putting on earphones and listening to it when I go to bed. I need to be sure it will play over and over all night. You know what they say about getting things when you're asleep. LOL Well I guess I'm gone for now. I could go on all day and never be able to express how thankful I am you came in my life and how truly wonderful you are. I know your parents are so proud of you, and your love for them always comes out when you mention them. They are so special and "the apple didn't fall from the tree" as the old saying goes :-) Continue to give them my love and let them know I'll keep them in prayer. I would really love their prayers for me too. Not about any weight loss or fat issues. Just however God leads them to pray as God fearing, God loving, good kind people. I really covet the prayers of Christians for my life and family. And from what you say, I'm sure they're walking a close walk with the Lord, and can get some powerful prayers through! Well really, this time I'm gone LOL :-) Love{{{HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie *****************************With God, ALL things are possible.***************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 I am enjoying the emails. Lots of info. Ordered the cleanse. Will let you guys know. -- ===== Eilenberger, Contributing Editor, Suite101.com http://www.suite101.com/articles.cfm/8481 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 Hi , Which cleanse did you order? Have a great Thursday! Love, Liz ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 , Which cleanse did you go with? ~Karma280 year old Mediterranean Botanical for youth and vitality 1-800-766-1132http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com/ Re: cleanse I am enjoying the emails. Lots of info. Ordered thecleanse. Will let you guys know. -- ===== Eilenberger, Contributing Editor, Suite101.com http://www.suite101.com/articles.cfm/8481 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2001 Report Share Posted January 16, 2001 Ok, I got the cleanse today. How do I use it? Where can I find instructions? Anyone know?--Bee ===== Eilenberger, Contributing Editor, Suite101.com http://www.suite101.com/articles.cfm/8481 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2001 Report Share Posted January 16, 2001 What cleanse did you get. That makes a difference on the directions. ~Karma Ok, I got the cleanse today. How do I use it? Wherecan I find instructions? Anyone know?--Bee===== Eilenberger, Contributing Editor, Suite101.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2001 Report Share Posted January 16, 2001 I got the T-Para from Dial. The label says 6-12 drops under the toungue or in water up to 2-3 times daily. Is there anything I shouldn't eat? Thanks! ===== Eilenberger, Contributing Editor, Suite101.com http://www.suite101.com/articles.cfm/8481 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2001 Report Share Posted January 17, 2001 what is T-Para and where did you get it? kj Re: cleanse > I got the T-Para from Dial. > The label says 6-12 drops under the toungue or in > water up to 2-3 times daily. Is there anything I > shouldn't eat? Thanks! > > ===== > > Eilenberger, Contributing Editor, Suite101.com > > http://www.suite101.com/articles.cfm/8481 > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2001 Report Share Posted January 17, 2001 T-Para is a liquid tincture that is for killing parasites. Tinctures are very strong. You can get this from http://www.dialdist.com Dr. Malstrom makes his own tinctures and sells them from this web site. I used his black walnut tincture doing my first parasite cleanse. Rashelle has also worked with him when she was in Utah, as I remember. I think he is wonderful. I first came to know of him through my Chiropractor. He is my Dr's wife's cousin. :-) ~Karma Re: cleanse> I got the T-Para from Dial.> The label says 6-12 drops under the toungue or in> water up to 2-3 times daily. Is there anything I> shouldn't eat? Thanks!>> =====>> Eilenberger, Contributing Editor, Suite101.com>> http://www.suite101.com/articles.cfm/8481>>> __________________________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2001 Report Share Posted April 9, 2001 Hi a--I'm doing Dr. Hulda 's parasite cleanse. It consists 3 bottles--one of black walnut hull tincture, one of wormwood capsules, and one of clove capsules. You can also use an additional 2 products. One is arginine and one is ornithine. My understanding is that they help to eliminate the ammonia produced by the parasites during die-off. Taking these two supposedly reduces your cleansing reaction. Peggy cleanse Peggy, what are you taking for a parasite cleanse? a Subscription email: mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 <<Okay Saul, I am confused. I THOUGHT you had to make sure that your colon was kind of moving freely before you started killing parasites so that they would get out of the body as quickly as possible. My order would have been colon cleanse, parasite cleanse, and then the liver cleanse. Mind you, I am not a health or medical professional, so what do I know?!>> This sounds like which came first " the chicken or the egg " . I don't know that it would hurt doing the bowel cleanse first but certainly again after the parasite cleanse. Years ago when I went to Hanna Kroeger(Boulder, CO) retreats, lectures, etc. she preached vehemently to always do parasite cleanse first. Although a little fuzzy in this as its been so long, she concluded the first line of attack is to rid yourself of these disease causing creatures then a bowel cleanse to clean them out. I can still hear her little German voice talking about the " verms " . She was a spiritually uplifting, energenic person and the 4 day retreat was one of the best healing experiences I've ever felt. I purchased many of her books but all are put away except one. " God helps those that help themselves " (1984). I just briefly glanced through it... still a great health guide today. Terri L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 speaking from experience on cleansing here are my thoughts: when i first started cleansing years ago, and had just read people like hulda clark and hanna kroeger, and richard anderson, i immediately started going after the parasites. i lasted about two weeks and realized there was no way in hell i was going to get through this. i was already wiped out and my immune system compromised. if you are healthy person and just looking to improve your health then this will probably be ok to go after parasites first. if you are sick then most likely you will have to strengthen your liver first. killing parasites is very very tough on the liver. much worse than killing candida. killing parasites and cleaning the colon sort of go hand in hand. many parasites are buried in the layers of gunk inside the colon. if you kill off too many parasites that are buried inside you without expelling them-- you will feel horrible at the very least. and most probably become sicker. cleansing is all about how strong in totality your immune system is able to handle the waste that comes out of you. i think there is a misconception that colon cleansing will be a few weeks, and then parasite cleansing will be another few more weeks and then its off to the races on sunday afternoon. for some people it may take years and years. and at that point you arent thinking about about sequence, you are thinking lifestyle, diet, and how to incorporate these things into your daily routine. and how to approach this in a slow and steady and manageable manner. with the right diet, your colon will clean itself out naturally. and the same holds true for parasites-- they will die off if you feed the body the right things. as far as the liver cleanse goes-- i have never done one. i have always felt that i was too weak for this in the past. but i will try one soon and report the results. i have lots of parasites still in me and my colon is not cleaned out fully yet. so this will be a good test to determine sequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 Luckower, Reading your post reminded me of how I react to stuff. I don't know if any of this will help or whether you have already tried it, but it worked for me, so I thought I'd share. I start off on parasite cleanses VERY slowly and gradually build up to the suggested dose of whatever I am using to kill them and just try to stick with it. I now just use homeopathy which so far had worked great. For my liver I started doing coffee enemas with 2 teaspoon or less of organic coffee grounds. I would do several bags of water first (at the time I had no $ for colonics), then the coffee and not hold for over 5 minutes. I also never let my coffee touch metal. and used purified water. I use a mason jar and an organic cotton filter. I did this religiously as often as possible with out getting to sick and gradually increased the amount of coffee grounds I used. I took a lot of vit C, zinc, and drank at least 2 qts. of clean water everyday. Exercise helped a lot too and I had to start very slowly with this or I'd get very ill. For me I have found that I have to kill the parasites to do any real healing, as they made me as sick as the detox from killing them did. One was " black pain " which was damaging. The other was " purple pain " which was healing. When I changed my perspective towards my suffering it made it so much more bearable for me. I'm sure others on this list have some great ideas....... Hope this helped some. luckower@... wrote: > speaking from experience on cleansing here are my thoughts: > > when i first started cleansing years ago, and had just read people like hulda > clark and hanna kroeger, and richard anderson, i immediately started going > after the parasites. i lasted about two weeks and realized there was no way > in hell i was going to get through this. i was already wiped out and my > immune system compromised. if you are healthy person and just looking to > improve your health then this will probably be ok to go after parasites > first. if you are sick then most likely you will have to strengthen your > liver first. killing parasites is very very tough on the liver. much worse > than killing candida. > killing parasites and cleaning the colon sort of go hand in hand. many > parasites are buried in the layers of gunk inside the colon. if you kill off > too many parasites that are buried inside you without expelling them-- you > will feel horrible at the very least. and most probably become sicker. > cleansing is all about how strong in totality your immune system is able to > handle the waste that comes out of you. > i think there is a misconception that colon cleansing will be a few > weeks, and then parasite cleansing will be another few more weeks and then > its off to the races on sunday afternoon. for some people it may take years > and years. and at that point you arent thinking about about sequence, you are > thinking lifestyle, diet, and how to incorporate these things into your daily > routine. and how to approach this in a slow and steady and manageable manner. > with the right diet, your colon will clean itself out naturally. and the same > holds true for parasites-- they will die off if you feed the body the right > things. > as far as the liver cleanse goes-- i have never done one. i have always > felt that i was too weak for this in the past. but i will try one soon and > report the results. i have lots of parasites still in me and my colon is not > cleaned out fully yet. so this will be a good test to determine sequence. > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 .. > > I paid about $170 with s/h and would give it to > you for $125 or best > offer. , thank you very much for your offer but unfortunately, I will not be able to buy the Arise & Shine from you. FINANCES!! Thanks anyway. ) Enjoy your trip. Stacey __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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