Dental Issues

[Guest guest]

Good point about the chewables! I always try to find the ones

without too much sugar, but that's not easy, and a little sugar

sitting in there is all it takes I suppose.

Thanks Prue!

>

> My on has had a few too! I thought it was because of the

chewable vitamins I gave him as a baby?? Did you give them to your

sons?

> Prue

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I think I've posted similar sentiments on this topic before but I think it

bears repeating: if the infection can't be brought under control and a root

canal is suggested - refuse it! Have the tooth pulled. I know it would be hard

because it's a front tooth, but if your son already has immune issues a root

canal could be disastrous!! I had one done almost 4 years ago and it literally

almost did me in. I can give you the details of the effects it had if you're

interested but do yourself and your son a favor and avoid it! You can find a

lot of research on this topic on the web......good luck!!

Bonnie

mom114425 <JLJukoski@...> wrote:

My son fell of a barstool and significantly chipped one of his top

front permanent teeth. That was two weeks ago. At that time, we got

it repaired with a composite material. That lasted a week and then

fell off. So today, we got the second repair. This time we went to a

new dentist, and she did a " sleeve crown " . The new dentist said that

the xray shows possible root infection due to the fall/chipping of

tooth. She wants to xray again in a month to see status of infection.

If there is a growing infection, she says that could mean a root

canal. I REALLY want to avoid that. So, I am wondering if there is

some supplements we can take to heal this possible infection. He

already is on a strong anti-fungal protocol and Argentyn 23. What

should we add to help with infection?

Also, my son lost a baby tooth last summer that still does not have a

permanent replacement. The dentist thinks he needs a stainless steel

spacer. Is this a good idea?

Thanks.

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>>The new dentist said that

> the xray shows possible root infection due to the fall/chipping of

> tooth. She wants to xray again in a month to see status of infection.

> If there is a growing infection, she says that could mean a root

> canal. I REALLY want to avoid that.

How old is the child? Is this a permanent tooth? You might want to

consider pulling the tooth instead.

>> So, I am wondering if there is

> some supplements we can take to heal this possible infection. He

> already is on a strong anti-fungal protocol and Argentyn 23. What

> should we add to help with infection?

I use olive leaf extract.

> Also, my son lost a baby tooth last summer that still does not have a

> permanent replacement. The dentist thinks he needs a stainless steel

> spacer. Is this a good idea?

Ask if the x-ray showed a tooth bud, or lack of a tooth bud. Maybe

the new tooth is taking too much time to come down, or maybe there is

no new tooth at all.

So far as I know, stainless steel is okay. But make sure it does not

contain other ingredients. Other members of this message board have

more info on this than I do.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Stainless steel used in dentistry typically contain 5% nickel or titanium. Is

either of these high on his hair test? If you end up having a root canal done,

I've heard that BioCalex is more biocompatible than gutta percha.

S S

<br>

>>The new dentist said that <br>

> the xray shows possible root infection due to the fall/chipping of <br>

> tooth. She wants to xray again in a month to see status of infection. <br>

> If there is a growing infection, she says that could mean a root <br>

> canal. I REALLY want to avoid that.<br>

<br>

How old is the child? Is this a permanent tooth? You might want to<br>

consider pulling the tooth instead.<br>

<br>

>> So, I am wondering if there is <br>

> some supplements we can take to heal this possible infection. He <br>

> already is on a strong anti-fungal protocol and Argentyn 23. What <br>

> should we add to help with infection?<br>

<br>

I use olive leaf extract.<br>

<br>

> Also, my son lost a baby tooth last summer that still does not have a <br>

> permanent replacement. The dentist thinks he needs a stainless steel <br>

> spacer. Is this a good idea?<br>

<br>

Ask if the x-ray showed a tooth bud, or lack of a tooth bud. Maybe<br>

the new tooth is taking too much time to come down, or maybe there is<br>

no new tooth at all.<br>

<br>

So far as I know, stainless steel is okay. But make sure it does not<br>

contain other ingredients. Other members of this message board have<br>

more info on this than I do.<br>

<br>

Dana<br>

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I would also question the infection.. " going away " and check it in a

month. It is very unusual for a tooth the get infected and heal

itself. Usually and infection is referred to as abscess..meaning the

tooth pulp is dying..via bacteria. This warrants pulling it.

And getting a nice one of those non metal partials to replace it.

Unfortunately.

> My son fell of a barstool and significantly chipped one

of his top

> front permanent teeth. That was two weeks ago. At that time, we

got

> it repaired with a composite material. That lasted a week and then

> fell off. So today, we got the second repair. This time we went to

a

> new dentist, and she did a " sleeve crown " . The new dentist said

that

> the xray shows possible root infection due to the fall/chipping of

> tooth. She wants to xray again in a month to see status of

infection.

> If there is a growing infection, she says that could mean a root

> canal. I REALLY want to avoid that. So, I am wondering if there is

> some supplements we can take to heal this possible infection. He

> already is on a strong anti-fungal protocol and Argentyn 23. What

> should we add to help with infection?

>

> Also, my son lost a baby tooth last summer that still does not

have a

> permanent replacement. The dentist thinks he needs a stainless

steel

> spacer. Is this a good idea?

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 03/02/2007 01:08:52 GMT Standard Time,

bbrennes68@... writes:

It's true that BioCalex is more compatible, but biocompatibility is not the

major problem with root canals, it's the toxins produced by the bacteria that

will take up residence in the dentin tubules. There is no dental treatment

that will kill all of these bacteria and they produce VERY strong toxins.

>>I agree - google cavitations

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

It's true that BioCalex is more compatible, but biocompatibility is not the

major problem with root canals, it's the toxins produced by the bacteria that

will take up residence in the dentin tubules. There is no dental treatment

that will kill all of these bacteria and they produce VERY strong toxins.

I had my original root canal re-treated with lasers and a BioCalex root canal

and I was a little better but still very, very sick - I never made significant

improvements until the tooth was extracted.

Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote:

Stainless steel used in dentistry typically contain 5% nickel or titanium. Is

either of these high on his hair test? If you end up having a root canal done,

I've heard that BioCalex is more biocompatible than gutta percha.

S S

<br>

>>The new dentist said that <br>

> the xray shows possible root infection due to the fall/chipping of <br>

> tooth. She wants to xray again in a month to see status of infection. <br>

> If there is a growing infection, she says that could mean a root <br>

> canal. I REALLY want to avoid that.<br>

<br>

How old is the child? Is this a permanent tooth? You might want to<br>

consider pulling the tooth instead.<br>

<br>

>> So, I am wondering if there is <br>

> some supplements we can take to heal this possible infection. He <br>

> already is on a strong anti-fungal protocol and Argentyn 23. What <br>

> should we add to help with infection?<br>

<br>

I use olive leaf extract.<br>

<br>

> Also, my son lost a baby tooth last summer that still does not have a <br>

> permanent replacement. The dentist thinks he needs a stainless steel <br>

> spacer. Is this a good idea?<br>

<br>

Ask if the x-ray showed a tooth bud, or lack of a tooth bud. Maybe<br>

the new tooth is taking too much time to come down, or maybe there is<br>

no new tooth at all.<br>

<br>

So far as I know, stainless steel is okay. But make sure it does not<br>

contain other ingredients. Other members of this message board have<br>

more info on this than I do.<br>

<br>

Dana<br>

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I don't know if it is from Babesia or not, since I don't know if I have it or

not, since my duck wouldn't test for it. But the last few months my tetth and

jaw bones have been hurting from time to time. I have three more Amalgams to

get removed, but the dentists around here scare me, since my last experiences

with one.

Like GiGi on Lymenet says, if you have Amalgams, you can't get completely well

until you address them.

Jim.

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wyomin@... wrote:

Someone told me that 'treatment' for babesia is associated with dental

problems. I don't doubt that person, but it just doesn't make sense to

me that when one treats is when you get dental issues. Yet, even for

myself, after 2 years of increasing dental problems, since I started the

artemisinin and now the crypto for babesia, my mouth has become so sore

and my teeth so sensitive that I can hardly chew. So my own experience

is of problems intensifying during treatment. I'm wondering if others

have experiences this; and I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas about

why it might happen. Inquiring minds want to know! lol! jo

[Guest guest]

Has anyone experienced tooth loss/cavities/bone loss as an RA patient? I am

facing my second extraction as an RA patient. The tooth next to the first one I

lost cracked last Wednesday. My dentist told me he could TRY a root canal but

chances are, it will not be able to be saved so he recommends extraction. I see

the oral surgeon tomorrow.

Both times I lost teeth, I was on prednisone. First time I was on 60 mg (same

thing... CRACKED) and this time, I had just finished tapering off after being on

for 6 months.

Anyone else? My husband thinks I should be tested for Sjorgerens based on my dry

eye and dry mouth symptoms. Honestly? I don't know if I could handle another

diagnosis! I'm sick of this already!

*~ Kami ~*

[Guest guest]

Hi Kami,

I was told that my teeth could be weakening because of my RA/meds. Not

thrilled with this since I spent so much time in braces! A friend of mine

has Sjogrens, she takes Restasis, and all is well. I hear you about having

yet another diagnosis. That's how I felt about having Fibro added, but then

just figured it was there all the time, lets just name it and call it a day.

LOL.

Smiles,

Heidi in Mass.

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM, ~Kami~ <kamilleon@...> wrote:

>

>

> Has anyone experienced tooth loss/cavities/bone loss as an RA patient? I am

> facing my second extraction as an RA patient. The tooth next to the first

> one I lost cracked last Wednesday. My dentist told me he could TRY a root

> canal but chances are, it will not be able to be saved so he recommends

> extraction. I see the oral surgeon tomorrow.

>

> Both times I lost teeth, I was on prednisone. First time I was on 60 mg

> (same thing... CRACKED) and this time, I had just finished tapering off

> after being on for 6 months.

>

> Anyone else? My husband thinks I should be tested for Sjorgerens based on

> my dry eye and dry mouth symptoms. Honestly? I don't know if I could handle

> another diagnosis! I'm sick of this already!

>

> *~ Kami ~*

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kami

My teeth are is rotten shape, where I have had fillings, they have fallen

out. I brush my teeth 2 times a day and floss. I was told the Neurontin I

take was the culprit. I know other meds, prednisone is one that can really

effect the teeth. I am pretty much just waiting till a Dentist will pull

them all. I can't afford to have the all capped or implants.. SO I will wait

and hopefully it won't be too long.

Heidibug

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM, ~Kami~ <kamilleon@...> wrote:

>

>

> Has anyone experienced tooth loss/cavities/bone loss as an RA patient? I am

> facing my second extraction as an RA patient. The tooth next to the first

> one I lost cracked last Wednesday. My dentist told me he could TRY a root

> canal but chances are, it will not be able to be saved so he recommends

> extraction. I see the oral surgeon tomorrow.

>

> Both times I lost teeth, I was on prednisone. First time I was on 60 mg

> (same thing... CRACKED) and this time, I had just finished tapering off

> after being on for 6 months.

>

> Anyone else? My husband thinks I should be tested for Sjorgerens based on

> my dry eye and dry mouth symptoms. Honestly? I don't know if I could handle

> another diagnosis! I'm sick of this already!

>

> *~ Kami ~*

>

>

[Guest guest]

I remeber the pain. I feel for you. My teeth were disintegrating. I could not

chew.

I could not afford to have them fixed in the USA. I went to Hungary and had them

all redone with permanent bridges, caps etc for 4000 dollars....

Raniolo

>

>

> Has anyone experienced tooth loss/cavities/ bone loss as an RA patient? I am

> facing my second extraction as an RA patient. The tooth next to the first

> one I lost cracked last Wednesday. My dentist told me he could TRY a root

> canal but chances are, it will not be able to be saved so he recommends

> extraction. I see the oral surgeon tomorrow.

>

> Both times I lost teeth, I was on prednisone. First time I was on 60 mg

> (same thing... CRACKED) and this time, I had just finished tapering off

> after being on for 6 months.

>

> Anyone else? My husband thinks I should be tested for Sjorgerens based on

> my dry eye and dry mouth symptoms. Honestly? I don't know if I could handle

> another diagnosis! I'm sick of this already!

>

> *~ Kami ~*

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kami.....

I do have Sjogren's....I lost all of my teeth.....thank goodness for a

generous boyfriend who got my implants for me......I never realized how much

pain my teeth caused....I have implants....my teeth are beautiful.....I am

very happy with them........the amount of money I spent on root canals and

caps was ridicuolous...and I ended up losing all the caps anyway.....

Deb RN

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of CATHERINE RANIOLO

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 9:50 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Dental Issues

I remeber the pain. I feel for you. My teeth were disintegrating. I could

not chew.

I could not afford to have them fixed in the USA. I went to Hungary and had

them all redone with permanent bridges, caps etc for 4000 dollars....

Raniolo

>

>

> Has anyone experienced tooth loss/cavities/ bone loss as an RA patient? I

am

> facing my second extraction as an RA patient. The tooth next to the first

> one I lost cracked last Wednesday. My dentist told me he could TRY a root

> canal but chances are, it will not be able to be saved so he recommends

> extraction. I see the oral surgeon tomorrow.

>

> Both times I lost teeth, I was on prednisone. First time I was on 60 mg

> (same thing... CRACKED) and this time, I had just finished tapering off

> after being on for 6 months.

>

> Anyone else? My husband thinks I should be tested for Sjorgerens based on

> my dry eye and dry mouth symptoms. Honestly? I don't know if I could

handle

> another diagnosis! I'm sick of this already!

>

> *~ Kami ~*

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have had NUMEROUS fillings fall out over the past year. It is almost as if my

system has gone haywire after my RA diagnosis.

I just had a crown placed last summer on a tooth I had a root canal on... Now, I

am losing the tooth beside it AND have already lost the other tooth.... I am

looking at $2800 for a bridge for those 3 teeth. Wah. I would consider implants

but I am metal sensitive and from what I understand there is metal in the posts.

My crown does not have any metal in it and neither will the bridge.

*~ Kami ~*

Re: [ ] Dental Issues

Hi Kami

My teeth are is rotten shape, where I have had fillings, they have fallen

out. I brush my teeth 2 times a day and floss. I was told the Neurontin I

take was the culprit. I know other meds, prednisone is one that can really

effect the teeth. I am pretty much just waiting till a Dentist will pull

them all. I can't afford to have the all capped or implants.. SO I will wait

and hopefully it won't be too long.

Heidibug

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM, ~Kami~ <kamilleon@...> wrote:

>

>

> Has anyone experienced tooth loss/cavities/bone loss as an RA patient? I am

> facing my second extraction as an RA patient. The tooth next to the first

> one I lost cracked last Wednesday. My dentist told me he could TRY a root

> canal but chances are, it will not be able to be saved so he recommends

> extraction. I see the oral surgeon tomorrow.

>

> Both times I lost teeth, I was on prednisone. First time I was on 60 mg

> (same thing... CRACKED) and this time, I had just finished tapering off

> after being on for 6 months.

>

> Anyone else? My husband thinks I should be tested for Sjorgerens based on

> my dry eye and dry mouth symptoms. Honestly? I don't know if I could handle

> another diagnosis! I'm sick of this already!

>

> *~ Kami ~*

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sending you a smile minus one tooth and probably missing another by next

week! hee hee

My doctor always reminds me about this being a systemic disease.. I always

remind him while I love seeing him, the others.... not so much!!!!

*~ Kami ~*

Re: [ ] Dental Issues

Hi Kami,

I was told that my teeth could be weakening because of my RA/meds. Not

thrilled with this since I spent so much time in braces! A friend of mine

has Sjogrens, she takes Restasis, and all is well. I hear you about having

yet another diagnosis. That's how I felt about having Fibro added, but then

just figured it was there all the time, lets just name it and call it a day.

LOL.

Smiles,

Heidi in Mass.

.

[Guest guest]

The posts are titanium.....never heard of anyone having a problem with

titanium.

Deb RN

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of ~Kami~

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 11:11 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Dental Issues

I have had NUMEROUS fillings fall out over the past year. It is almost as if

my system has gone haywire after my RA diagnosis.

I just had a crown placed last summer on a tooth I had a root canal on...

Now, I am losing the tooth beside it AND have already lost the other

tooth.... I am looking at $2800 for a bridge for those 3 teeth. Wah. I would

consider implants but I am metal sensitive and from what I understand there

is metal in the posts. My crown does not have any metal in it and neither

will the bridge.

*~ Kami ~*

Re: [ ] Dental Issues

Hi Kami

My teeth are is rotten shape, where I have had fillings, they have fallen

out. I brush my teeth 2 times a day and floss. I was told the Neurontin I

take was the culprit. I know other meds, prednisone is one that can really

effect the teeth. I am pretty much just waiting till a Dentist will pull

them all. I can't afford to have the all capped or implants.. SO I will wait

and hopefully it won't be too long.

Heidibug

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM, ~Kami~ <kamilleon@...

<mailto:kamilleon%40verizon.net> > wrote:

>

>

> Has anyone experienced tooth loss/cavities/bone loss as an RA patient? I

am

> facing my second extraction as an RA patient. The tooth next to the first

> one I lost cracked last Wednesday. My dentist told me he could TRY a root

> canal but chances are, it will not be able to be saved so he recommends

> extraction. I see the oral surgeon tomorrow.

>

> Both times I lost teeth, I was on prednisone. First time I was on 60 mg

> (same thing... CRACKED) and this time, I had just finished tapering off

> after being on for 6 months.

>

> Anyone else? My husband thinks I should be tested for Sjorgerens based on

> my dry eye and dry mouth symptoms. Honestly? I don't know if I could

handle

> another diagnosis! I'm sick of this already!

>

> *~ Kami ~*

>

>

[Guest guest]

Since the onset of Sjogrens, I've had a bunch of cavities and 8 teeth

pulled. The 'dry mouth' is the culprit, as I've been told, because saliva

actually controls PH in your mouth and keeps most cavities at bay. When my

gums heal from the last bout of extractions, I'm getting a 'partial' lower

denture. Betty has been having some symptoms of Sjogrens and needs 4

jawteeth removed on Wednesday, and we'll be looking at a denture for her.

She doesn't have RA or anything like it, so that's not a problem for her.

Dennis in eastexas

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:50 AM, ~Kami~ <kamilleon@...> wrote:

>

>

> Has anyone experienced tooth loss/cavities/bone loss as an RA patient? I am

> facing my second extraction as an RA patient. The tooth next to the first

> one I lost cracked last Wednesday. My dentist told me he could TRY a root

> canal but chances are, it will not be able to be saved so he recommends

> extraction. I see the oral surgeon tomorrow.

>

> Both times I lost teeth, I was on prednisone. First time I was on 60 mg

> (same thing... CRACKED) and this time, I had just finished tapering off

> after being on for 6 months.

>

> Anyone else? My husband thinks I should be tested for Sjorgerens based on

> my dry eye and dry mouth symptoms. Honestly? I don't know if I could handle

> another diagnosis! I'm sick of this already!

>

> *~ Kami ~*

>

[Guest guest]

WOW! I never made the connection between dental problems and RA other than the

jaw problems I've had. I do have dry mouth, but I thought it was because of

allergy medicines. I NEVER had a cavity until last year. Last month, I had 4!

But until I get my locked jaw sorted out, I can't keep my mouth open long enough

to get the cavities filled. ::: First time I actually keep my mouth shut,

I guess.

Re: [ ] Dental Issues

Since the onset of Sjogrens, I've had a bunch of cavities and 8 teeth

pulled. The 'dry mouth' is the culprit, as I've been told, because saliva

actually controls PH in your mouth and keeps most cavities at bay. When my

gums heal from the last bout of extractions, I'm getting a 'partial' lower

denture. Betty has been having some symptoms of Sjogrens and needs 4

jawteeth removed on Wednesday, and we'll be looking at a denture for her.

She doesn't have RA or anything like it, so that's not a problem for her.

Dennis in eastexas

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:50 AM, ~Kami~ <kamilleon@...> wrote:

>

>

> Has anyone experienced tooth loss/cavities/bone loss as an RA patient? I am

> facing my second extraction as an RA patient. The tooth next to the first

> one I lost cracked last Wednesday. My dentist told me he could TRY a root

> canal but chances are, it will not be able to be saved so he recommends

> extraction. I see the oral surgeon tomorrow.

>

> Both times I lost teeth, I was on prednisone. First time I was on 60 mg

> (same thing... CRACKED) and this time, I had just finished tapering off

> after being on for 6 months.

>

> Anyone else? My husband thinks I should be tested for Sjorgerens based on

> my dry eye and dry mouth symptoms. Honestly? I don't know if I could handle

> another diagnosis! I'm sick of this already!

>

> *~ Kami ~*

>

[Guest guest]

Kami,

I have sjogrens, and I'm experiencing eye and dental problems. I have

not had dental insurance, so just got that started last month. It will

take awhile, but I will have to get implants, if they are not too

expensive:(

I'm having a terrible time with my eyes. I have dry eyes all the time.

I have medicare, and they don't cover the eye doctor.

I'm sorry your having a terrible time, I hope your dentist you can

something. I do know how you feel. I'm very sorry.

Hugs, Tawny

>

> Has anyone experienced tooth loss/cavities/bone loss as an RA patient?

I am facing my second extraction as an RA patient. The tooth next to the

first one I lost cracked last Wednesday. My dentist told me he could TRY

a root canal but chances are, it will not be able to be saved so he

recommends extraction. I see the oral surgeon tomorrow.

>

> Both times I lost teeth, I was on prednisone. First time I was on 60

mg (same thing... CRACKED) and this time, I had just finished tapering

off after being on for 6 months.

>

> Anyone else? My husband thinks I should be tested for Sjorgerens based

on my dry eye and dry mouth symptoms. Honestly? I don't know if I could

handle another diagnosis! I'm sick of this already!

>

>

>

>

> *~ Kami ~*

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tawny,

Medicare won't cover the eye doctor for just writing a prescription

for glasses. But they will pay an eye doctor for handling medical

problems of the eye. Sjogren's is a medical problem of the eye.

I have Fuchs' corneal dystrophy, and have seen an ophthalmologist for

that, and also to check for diabetes damage, and then later for

cataracts, and Medicare pays 80% of everything except the eyeglass

prescription.

I had cataract surgeries last March, and Medicare even helped pay for

my new glasses.

So ask your doctor if they're not coding it correctly when they send

it in to Medicare.

Sue

On May 19, 2009, at 11:37 PM, tdianaok wrote:

>

> I'm having a terrible time with my eyes. I have dry eyes all the

> time.

> I have medicare, and they don't cover the eye doctor.

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much Sue, for the great information. I just might need to see

the eye doctor, not sure what's going on. I've been having problem with

my right eye. I thought it was a sty, but you never know. You have

helped so much. I hope you have some pain free days.

Gentle hugs,

Tawny

>

> Tawny,

>

> Medicare won't cover the eye doctor for just writing a prescription

> for glasses. But they will pay an eye doctor for handling medical

> problems of the eye. Sjogren's is a medical problem of the eye.

>

> I have Fuchs' corneal dystrophy, and have seen an ophthalmologist for

> that, and also to check for diabetes damage, and then later for

> cataracts, and Medicare pays 80% of everything except the eyeglass

> prescription.

>

> I had cataract surgeries last March, and Medicare even helped pay for

> my new glasses.

>

> So ask your doctor if they're not coding it correctly when they send

> it in to Medicare.

>

> Sue

>

[Guest guest]

Eyes are too precious to neglect. Are you already using some

moisturizing drops for the Sjogren's? I use GenTeal gel in my eyes at

bedtime, and find it very soothing. If you use it in the daytime, it

takes a few minutes before you can see clearly again, but there are

all kinds of moisturizing drops available over the counter.

Sue

On May 20, 2009, at 12:20 AM, tdianaok wrote:

>

> Thanks so much Sue, for the great information. I just might need to

> see

> the eye doctor, not sure what's going on. I've been having problem

> with

> my right eye. I thought it was a sty, but you never know. You have

> helped so much. I hope you have some pain free days.

>

> Gentle hugs,

>

> Tawny

[Guest guest]

Sue,

I am using artificial tears drops, which is just OTC. My rheumy adviced

me if my eyes get worse, to see my eye doctor. I will check out the

counter, when I go to Walmart.

Thanks so much Sue, are eyes are very precious, for sure.

>

> Eyes are too precious to neglect. Are you already using some

> moisturizing drops for the Sjogren's? I use GenTeal gel in my eyes at

> bedtime, and find it very soothing. If you use it in the daytime, it

> takes a few minutes before you can see clearly again, but there are

> all kinds of moisturizing drops available over the counter.

>

> Sue

>

[Guest guest]

the godzilla device is great on dental. metallic taste occurs even in people

without fillings at all, it is some sort of electro-stim. If concerned abt

mercury, look into dmsa (not dmso).

bG

>

> By the way, my doc is sending me out to an integrative dentist to see if I

have any dental problems that could be a chronic drain on my immune system. How

do these devices stand up against those types of issues? I have 2 or 3 amalgam

fillings. No root canals. No pain. Just chasing loose threads.

>

> ~

>

[Guest guest]

great, Bob, thanks,

bG

> >> >>

> >> >> By the way, my doc is sending me out to an integrative dentist to see

> >> >> if

> >> >> I have any dental problems that could be a chronic drain on my immune

> >> >> system. How do these devices stand up against those types of issues?

> >> >> I

> >> >> have 2 or 3 amalgam fillings. No root canals. No pain. Just chasing

> >> >> loose threads.

> >> >>

> >> >> ~

> >> >>

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