Re: gum disease and Humira??

[Guest guest]

I also am on Humira. About 6 months ago my gums started bleeding and receding.

My teeth became lose to the point of waking one morning with an entire tooth

just lying in my mouth. I now have a partial denture for all of my top teeth.

Had to have them all pulled.

I cannot say whether it was from the Humira or just the RA affecting my jaw

bones though. I know my eye sight has been affected because the RA is also in

the optical nerve.

The changes our bodies go through so quickly with these diseases just scares me

to the point where I wish I could go back into denial.

Vicki

Iowa

[Guest guest]

and group;

I have been on humira for 3 months also. You got me checking my

mouth out real good. I haven't notice any changes in my gums. You

havent seen your primary doctor in 4 years I am presuming thats what

you meant. I know I get in trouble with my doc a lot too lol.

Supposenly with RA our immune sysytem is affected. That could be

anywhere in our bodies. I hate to think what can mess up with our

immune system. Sorry to hear about your gums receding. If it's not

one thing it's another. Take care. Let us know what is going on after

seeing your doc.

gentle hugs

Clora

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> Hi,

> I have recently starting taking Humira about 3 months ago and have

> periodental disease, I have notice my gums are receding badly, I have

> appt with doc on Thursday my dentist would not touch me?? Has anyone

> else had a problem like this Im scared I feel like all my teeth are

> gonna fall out, When they said when your on Humira you body cant

fight

> infections I didnt even think about my teeth problems..

> Any info or experiences anyone has would be greatly apprec., also I

> will post back what my period. doctor has to say after shes done

> yelling at me for not being there for 4 yrs..

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

  No No i havent been to my periodontist in 4 yrs, my Rhemy and primary doc make

me see them every 3-4 months..but my regualr dentist wont touch me, I have

already had some problems with my teeth but not to the point that they have been

lose and then gums receding like they are so rapidly. I will let you all know

what my periondontist says on Thursday..wish me luck Im freakin out Im only 40,

to deal with all this RA is enough but now my mouth..ugggggh

Prayers,

[Guest guest]

Oh my god! I am about to start Humira. Should I refuse it?? Help!

>

> and group;

>

> I have been on humira for 3 months also. You got me checking

my

> mouth out real good. I haven't notice any changes in my gums. You

> havent seen your primary doctor in 4 years I am presuming thats

what

> you meant. I know I get in trouble with my doc a lot too lol.

>

> Supposenly with RA our immune sysytem is affected. That could be

> anywhere in our bodies. I hate to think what can mess up with our

> immune system. Sorry to hear about your gums receding. If it's

not

> one thing it's another. Take care. Let us know what is going on

after

> seeing your doc.

>

> gentle hugs

> Clora

>

> ***********************************************************

>

>

> > Hi,

> > I have recently starting taking Humira about 3 months ago and

have

> > periodental disease, I have notice my gums are receding badly, I

have

> > appt with doc on Thursday my dentist would not touch me?? Has

anyone

> > else had a problem like this Im scared I feel like all my teeth

are

> > gonna fall out, When they said when your on Humira you body cant

> fight

> > infections I didnt even think about my teeth problems..

> > Any info or experiences anyone has would be greatly apprec., also

I

> > will post back what my period. doctor has to say after shes done

> > yelling at me for not being there for 4 yrs..

> > Thanks,

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,

RA itself is associated with periodontal disease. I don't know of any

evidence that links Humira with an increased risk of periodontal

disease.

There is evidence that too much TNF is associated with periodontal

disease, so, theoretically, Humira should help.

Please discuss this issue with your rheumatologist if you are worried.

Not an MD

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:30 AM, cheryl.dines <cheryl.dines@...> wrote:

> Oh my god! I am about to start Humira. Should I refuse it?? Help!

>

>

>>

>> and group;

>>

>> I have been on humira for 3 months also. You got me checking

> my

>> mouth out real good. I haven't notice any changes in my gums. You

>> havent seen your primary doctor in 4 years I am presuming thats

> what

>> you meant. I know I get in trouble with my doc a lot too lol.

>>

>> Supposenly with RA our immune sysytem is affected. That could be

>> anywhere in our bodies. I hate to think what can mess up with our

>> immune system. Sorry to hear about your gums receding. If it's

> not

>> one thing it's another. Take care. Let us know what is going on

> after

>> seeing your doc.

>>

>> gentle hugs

>> Clora

[Guest guest]

From personal experience, I had to have 4 bottom teeth pulled because of

receding gums a few years ago. When I started suffering Sjogrens Syndrome

really bad, cavities just blossomed in my mouth. As the Sjogrens decreased,

the cavity-making stopped and the gum problems did, too. I will say that I'm

not taking Humira, just MTX, but it lowers defenses also. I've had a couple

of flares of cavities in one tooth that will have to be surgically removed,

but there has been nothing obviously related to anything RA or it's meds. I

wouldn't give it another thought, but you still should discuss it with your

Rheumy as suggested. Don't worry, be happy!!

Dennis in eastexas

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:23 AM, <

Rheumatoid.Arthritis.Support@...> wrote:

> Cheryl,

>

> RA itself is associated with periodontal disease. I don't know of any

> evidence that links Humira with an increased risk of periodontal

> disease.

>

> There is evidence that too much TNF is associated with periodontal

> disease, so, theoretically, Humira should help.

>

> Please discuss this issue with your rheumatologist if you are worried.

>

>

> Not an MD

>

>

> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:30 AM, cheryl.dines

<cheryl.dines@...<cheryl.dines%40>>

> wrote:

> > Oh my god! I am about to start Humira. Should I refuse it?? Help!

> >

> >

> >>

> >> and group;

> >>

> >> I have been on humira for 3 months also. You got me checking

> > my

> >> mouth out real good. I haven't notice any changes in my gums. You

> >> havent seen your primary doctor in 4 years I am presuming thats

> > what

> >> you meant. I know I get in trouble with my doc a lot too lol.

> >>

> >> Supposenly with RA our immune sysytem is affected. That could be

> >> anywhere in our bodies. I hate to think what can mess up with our

> >> immune system. Sorry to hear about your gums receding. If it's

> > not

> >> one thing it's another. Take care. Let us know what is going on

> > after

> >> seeing your doc.

> >>

> >> gentle hugs

> >> Clora

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi wendy

i'm sorry to hear this. i have receeding gums too. they say if they get

worse they'll have to do a graft suing tissue from roof of my mouth. i

sure hope not. i have heard from other that rubbing magnesium oil on

gums helps. haven't tried yet but plan too. lmk how you go.

monique

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I will be interested in what he says. I just thought my teeth were bad like

my Moms and Dads I am ready to go to the Dentist and tell him PULL EM!!! The

l;last one I went to said it would be $27,000.00, I told him Hell my car

didn't cost that much sheesh. So I can't wait to hear what they tell you. I

am on Humera as well.

Heidibug

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:48 PM, wendy cross <wndy_crss@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

> No No i havent been to my periodontist in 4 yrs, my Rhemy and primary doc

> make me see them every 3-4 months..but my regualr dentist wont touch me, I

> have already had some problems with my teeth but not to the point that they

> have been lose and then gums receding like they are so rapidly. I will let

> you all know what my periondontist says on Thursday..wish me luck Im freakin

> out Im only 40, to deal with all this RA is enough but now my mouth..ugggggh

> Prayers,

>

>

[Guest guest]

I could not afford to have my teeth fixed either.  After years of frustration,

pain and embarrasment,  I went to Hungary..off season.

Fixing every tooth with permanent replacements and general anesthesia cost my

under 5 thousand including travel expenses. It was a wonderful experience 2

years ago. I loved the dentist.

 

I still have concern due to bleeding gums. I do not take humira.

Raniolo

> Hi all,

> No No i havent been to my periodontist in 4 yrs, my Rhemy and primary doc

> make me see them every 3-4 months..but my regualr dentist wont touch me, I

> have already had some problems with my teeth but not to the point that they

> have been lose and then gums receding like they are so rapidly. I will let

> you all know what my periondontist says on Thursday..wish me luck Im freakin

> out Im only 40, to deal with all this RA is enough but now my mouth..ugggggh

> Prayers,

>

>

[Guest guest]

OMG!! now Im scared $27,000.00 who can afford that, I dont have dental insurance

anymore??  I would love to out of the country but you know my son would want to

go and my fiance lol..cant afford that.. Thank you all for all the info, not

sure what they will say tomorrow but I will let everyone know.  By the way, I

saw someone was scared to start Humira, the Humira did not cause this I have had

periodontal disease for years now I just think being on Humira has made it worse

since Humira lowers my immune systems to fight infections.. Humira and mtx have

made me feel so much better. I manage a restaurant and am on my feet all day,

these meds combined are awesome. Till tomorrow I wish everyone sweet dreams..

Prayers,

[Guest guest]

If you need dentures, you need to shop around. There are all kinds of

price ranges. My husband got a replacement set of dentures several

years ago for around $500. Of course he had no teeth to be pulled.

Sue

On Thursday, December 11, 2008, at 01:33 AM, wendy cross wrote:

> OMG!! now Im scared $27,000.00 who can afford that, I dont have dental

> insurance anymore??  I would love to out of the country but you know

> my son would want to go and my fiance lol..cant afford that.. Thank

> you all for all the info, not sure what they will say tomorrow but I

> will let everyone know.  By the way, I saw someone was scared to start

> Humira, the Humira did not cause this I have had periodontal disease

> for years now I just think being on Humira has made it worse since

> Humira lowers my immune systems to fight infections.. Humira and mtx

> have made me feel so much better. I manage a restaurant and am on my

> feet all day, these meds combined are awesome. Till tomorrow I wish

> everyone sweet dreams..

> Prayers,

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

   Okay good news, I dont need to have my teeth pulled yet!! Next week we are

going to do a full mouth scaling, deep cleaning and she is going to start me on

antibotics 2 actually 1 first then the other. My gums are severly infected. She

measured my teeth gums to roots and its not good but after this gum cleaning

hopefully they will get better and then I go every 3 mos..uggggh but much better

than my teeth falling out. I guess I should of let my Rhemy know about this and

did not think about it.  Anyways thank you for all the info everyone has given

me and I hope I may have helped someone else with this problem or for future

problems..By the way it will be $1500.00 not $27,000.00 LOL still expensive but

better than losing my teeth at 40. Happy Holidays to all...

Prayer for comfort and relief for the Holidays,

LOVE YA, WENDY

[Guest guest]

I hope it all works out, .

It's entirely possible that the Humira could have caused the infection

to become worse. I would call your rheumatologist immediately and

discuss the situation.

Good luck,

Not an MD

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:37 PM, wendy cross <wndy_crss@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

> Okay good news, I dont need to have my teeth pulled yet!! Next week we

> are going to do a full mouth scaling, deep cleaning and she is going to

> start me on antibotics 2 actually 1 first then the other. My gums are

> severly infected. She measured my teeth gums to roots and its not good but

> after this gum cleaning hopefully they will get better and then I go every 3

> mos..uggggh but much better than my teeth falling out. I guess I should of

> let my Rhemy know about this and did not think about it. Anyways thank you

> for all the info everyone has given me and I hope I may have helped someone

> else with this problem or for future problems..By the way it will be

> $1500.00 not $27,000.00 LOL still expensive but better than losing my teeth

> at 40. Happy Holidays to all...

> Prayer for comfort and relief for the Holidays,

>

>

> LOVE YA, WENDY