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Your kid is in a self contained autistic class with only 3 other kids, but

he's so whiney and always crying that it disrupts the class and makes 2 out

of the other 3 cry? was doing good, but now he's being VERY

difficult in class. The teacher is working with him, and trying different

things, but at what point do you say enough is enough, and he's preventing

the other kids from reaching their potential? It doesn't really bother me

about him crying, it's not the hysterical cry, it's the " I don't want to be

here and why am I here " type of whiney cry, but it gets the other ones

going. I know it's only been a couple weeks, but I still feel bad.

ellen

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I would give it time. Kids do things like that off and on. But I

would try ti figure out just why he is crying. That can help fix it

or at least point you in the right direction. I rhink it is too early

to worry about the class. Not to mention in some ways the kids are

learning a new skill of tolerance. They really shouldnt be crying

because another child is. So hopefully the teacher and aides can help

those children to learn how to cope. Which is a much needed skill. :)

Jacquie H

> Your kid is in a self contained autistic class with only 3 other

kids, but

> he's so whiney and always crying that it disrupts the class and

makes 2 out

> of the other 3 cry? was doing good, but now he's being VERY

> difficult in class. The teacher is working with him, and trying

different

> things, but at what point do you say enough is enough, and he's

preventing

> the other kids from reaching their potential? It doesn't really

bother me

> about him crying, it's not the hysterical cry, it's the " I don't

want to be

> here and why am I here " type of whiney cry, but it gets the other

ones

> going. I know it's only been a couple weeks, but I still feel bad.

>

> ellen

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ellen -

First of all, don't feel bad. Just don't.

You say the teacher is " working " with him. Is the staff attempting to

determine what is making Matt cry? Are they able to redirect him?

This sort of thing is to be expected. And when it happens, it's the staffs

job to figure out what's going on. Do you communicate regularly with the

teacher? Can the two of you come up with a plan of action?

You're first concern is Matt. And this is going to be an ongoing battle.

Things will be fine for a while, then something will pop up that you need to

deal with. It'll happen again and again.

Try to be proactive by helping the teacher come up with reasons for Matt's

behavior and how to change it.

You are a nice person for worrying about the other children, but honestly

it's a waste of YOUR energy.

Penny

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The teacher is working with him, and trying different

> things, but at what point do you say enough is enough, and he's preventing

> the other kids from reaching their potential? It doesn't really bother me

> about him crying, it's not the hysterical cry, it's the " I don't want to

be

> here and why am I here " type of whiney cry, but it gets the other ones

> going. I know it's only been a couple weeks, but I still feel bad.

ellen:

Most of us have had our children disrupting their classroom for a period of

time. A good teacher of an autistic classroom will figure out what is going

on and how to make things better.

Last year Putter became bored with his class and suddenly he grew very very

bad. He kept this up for a few months while his teacher and various

assistants tried many different things.

It began after the time change last spring and was only really under control

around June or July.

The best thing you can do to help is meet with the teacher and offer her

your insight, see if what she says about makes sense to you and be

creative!

A written schedule with choices built into it finally helped Putter stop

refusing to go to group activities and every day when I would pick him up at

school, his teacher would say to me, " Awesome day! "

Salli

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I have been told that it is very common for kids to start acting like they

hate it at school after a few weeks into it. We have been expecting this

with but it hasn't happened yet.

Has this been a problem from day 1, or is this a new thing? How long has it

been going on? Do you have any idea what triggered it? (Changes in the

classroom? At home? In his diet? The weather? is noticably

affected by weather changes.)

My first step would be to talk with the teacher about my concerns. You

could set up a meeting or ask her to call you at her convenience. Just see

what she has to say, if this is something she deals with a lot, what kinds

of ideas she has to help, how long she thinks is reasonable for the problem

to last...

If it continued past that reasonable time period, or if the teacher really

feels he is disrupting the class and she is out of ideas, I would look into

a 1:1 aide for him. The aide could take him out of the classroom or at

least away from the other kids and help him calm down, and then help him

transition back to the group activity. Just something to think about.

Good luck!!!

Oh yes and I agree with Penny -- it is the school's job to provide these

services for your child. He deserves their help just as much as the other

kids in the class. Yes you need to be a part of figuring things out and

give them the input they need and possibly fight for the support he needs,

but ultimately, it is the school's responsibility to provide the services

and support he needs.

-Sara.

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This is rough ellen. I'm so sorry.

How long does go to school every day? Is there a possibility of

him going less than 5 days a week? What does eat for breakfast?

I took a class a week ago with a Nutritionist and she was explaining

that it would be really beneficial for our kids to eat a protein

breakfast if at all possible because after going through the night, the

brain and body are " starving " for food and protein helps keep the blood

sugar stabilized for a while before lunch, better than something like

cereal or fruit which will spike the blood sugar level temporarily but

then when the pancreas responds with insulin, the blood sugar will drop

really low very quickly and this usually corresponds with behavior

problems as well. (in anybody not just ASD kids) On top of that

protein breaks down into amino acids and amino acids break down into

neuro transmitters, which our kids need especially during the day at

school when they have to do so much neuro processing. She suggested

that we feed them their " supper " at breakfast time as that is the time

of day Americans usually eat the most protein. For example, if your kid

likes a hamburger or grilled cheese sandwich or even a turkey sandwich

or something, go ahead and serve that at breakfast time. Save the

waffles and pancakes for supper time. (but you will need a little

protein at supper too or the same blood sugar spike and fall will happen

at night instead) Or better yet, they can have those simple carbs as a

snack after school. Does drink shakes at all? A protein

smoothie was also suggested at this class. I make one with juice,

protein powder, frozen fruit and I'm going to be adding a little flax

seed oil and other things into it. I sweeten with maple syrup or honey

and it doesn't taste too bad. I make my own with milk, but have taken

Jake off of milk. I may try soy milk sometime.

Well, FWIW, I pray this gets better for you both really soon. I agree

with the others, don't worry about the other kids. They will be fine.

~ Karin

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> Your kid is in a self contained autistic class with only 3 other kids, but

> he's so whiney and always crying that it disrupts the class and makes 2 out

> of the other 3 cry? was doing good, but now he's being VERY

> difficult in class. The teacher is working with him, and trying different

> things, but at what point do you say enough is enough, and he's preventing

> the other kids from reaching their potential? It doesn't really bother me

> about him crying, it's not the hysterical cry, it's the " I don't want to be

> here and why am I here " type of whiney cry, but it gets the other ones

> going. I know it's only been a couple weeks, but I still feel bad.

>

> ellen

>

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Hang tough .. your child deserves an education as much as the others..

perhaps there is a way to observe without him seeing you.. maybe you

can come up with a solution yourself watching how the how classroom

functions.

Jeanette

> Your kid is in a self contained autistic class with only 3 other

kids, but

> he's so whiney and always crying that it disrupts the class and

makes 2 out

> of the other 3 cry? was doing good, but now he's being VERY

> difficult in class. The teacher is working with him, and trying

different

> things, but at what point do you say enough is enough, and he's

preventing

> the other kids from reaching their potential? It doesn't really

bother me

> about him crying, it's not the hysterical cry, it's the " I don't

want to be

> here and why am I here " type of whiney cry, but it gets the other

ones

> going. I know it's only been a couple weeks, but I still feel bad.

>

> ellen

>

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> Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/2002

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