back on line

[Guest guest]

Alright Clyde!! Keep the good news coming.

Debbie/FL

> I'm back on line with my new system. Wow it's fast. Also got a call

from

> my hept. my last LFT's were NORMAL, YEA!!!

>

> -Clyde

> =========================================================+

> Help save a life, become an organ and tissue donor today.|

> =========================================================+

[Guest guest]

Awesome Clyde...

Now just get the heart medication under control and youll be AOK!! You must

me a computer hardware genius, back up and running so fast ; )

Have a great day,

April

Mom of Elyse (age 15 AIH 1/01)

[ ] Back on line

> I'm back on line with my new system. Wow it's fast. Also got a call from

> my hept. my last LFT's were NORMAL, YEA!!!

>

> -Clyde

> =========================================================+

> Help save a life, become an organ and tissue donor today.|

> =========================================================+

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh! + Dave, you did make me laugh. I thought I was the only one who gave their

'puters names. Glad to see Francis is fighting fit again.

love and hugs,

Angie via Handy Andy the lap top.

BJ/Dewi <dewi@...> wrote:

Hi all

Sorry for being a bit scarce since the weekend. Turned my main computer, Francis

off while house cleaning then turned it back on. It refused to go further than a

black and white screen,

[Guest guest]

Best wishes , from .

I have followed some of the NMC thread and, although no longer registered -as I

am retired but

still active as Hon member of staff and witnessed by my publication this month

in Com. Prac and

taking part in NSPCC conference in Birmingham next week - I do feel that a lot

of what has been said

reflects my own experience and long held view.

Why has this pretence that health visitors are automatically also lifelong

nurses been perpetuated

for so long? When professional people move on in life they build on their

previous training and

develop new skills. They automatically only retain what is useful in their new

role, the rest

becomes out of date and in danger of being wrongly applied in a different

context. I found only a

little of my clinical nurse training relevant to health visiting and that needed

updating for the

new context. What remained most strongly was an affinity with women and children

in distress, but of

a social and emotional, not clinical, nature. By having a deeper understanding

of this through

relevant training from the first, health visitors could become better experts

and more productive in

their roles than if they started out with mainly clinical knowlege.

As an example, I was told of a weaning talk given to mothers in the community by

a nurse.

Apparantly she only talked in terms of volume of milk, i.e. assumed all the

babies were bottle fed,

read from prepared notes and could not answer questions related to family needs

or needs of

breastfeeding mothers returning work. The environment was not percieved as

positive or supportive to

mothers of fully breast fed babies. I think the training should not have been

nursing but in

nutrition -value of breast feeding, policy - encouragement of breast feeding,

social science -

knowledge of women's employment, and legal - the rights of women in work, yet

alone an

understanding of any psychosocial issues of returning to work such as child care

and the tensions

involved. In other words, health visiting.

Nuff said! and yes, I will sign any letter circulated.

Coles

>>> Cowley <sarahcowley183@...> 28/06/2008 11:48 >>>

Very many thanks to everyone for their good wishes; I am now out of

hospital and not quite skipping, but improving with my new knee every

day.

I have lost the thread of the discussion about NMC; was there a

letter being circulated?

best wishes

sarahcowley183@...

http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this – I was just doing

a draft of the letter and it was helpful.

Am going to send it to to look at

and change first now she is back on line and it will then go on SENATE before

going off

Margaret

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Coles

Sent: 28 June 2008 19:41

Subject: Re: Back on

line

Best wishes , from .

I have followed some of the NMC thread and, although no longer registered -as I

am retired but

still active as Hon member of staff and witnessed by my publication this month

in Com. Prac and

taking part in NSPCC conference in Birmingham

next week - I do feel that a lot of what has been said

reflects my own experience and long held view.

Why has this pretence that health visitors are automatically also lifelong

nurses been perpetuated

for so long? When professional people move on in life they build on their

previous training and

develop new skills. They automatically only retain what is useful in their new

role, the rest

becomes out of date and in danger of being wrongly applied in a different

context. I found only a

little of my clinical nurse training relevant to health visiting and that

needed updating for the

new context. What remained most strongly was an affinity with women and

children in distress, but of

a social and emotional, not clinical, nature. By having a deeper understanding

of this through

relevant training from the first, health visitors could become better experts

and more productive in

their roles than if they started out with mainly clinical knowlege.

As an example, I was told of a weaning talk given to mothers in the community

by a nurse.

Apparantly she only talked in terms of volume of milk, i.e. assumed all the

babies were bottle fed,

read from prepared notes and could not answer questions related to family needs

or needs of

breastfeeding mothers returning work. The environment was not percieved as

positive or supportive to

mothers of fully breast fed babies. I think the training should not have been

nursing but in

nutrition -value of breast feeding, policy - encouragement of breast feeding,

social science -

knowledge of women's employment, and legal - the rights of women in work, yet

alone an

understanding of any psychosocial issues of returning to work such as child

care and the tensions

involved. In other words, health visiting.

Nuff said! and yes, I will sign any letter circulated.

Coles

>>> Cowley <sarahcowley183btinternet>

28/06/2008 11:48 >>>

Very many thanks to everyone for their good wishes; I am now out of

hospital and not quite skipping, but improving with my new knee every

day.

I have lost the thread of the discussion about NMC; was there a

letter being circulated?

best wishes

sarahcowley183btinternet

http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn

[Guest guest]

Dear Margaret

Hope you are well.

I have just registered with Senate. Previously Skudlarz had sometimes forwarded items of interest to me however, I don't have it all

Would it be a great deal of trouble for you to forward to me any of the recent dialogue concerning the recent events at the NMC please?

Thank you

Carys

RE: Back on line

Thanks for this – I was just doing a draft of the letter and it was helpful.

Am going to send it to to look at and change first now she is back on line and it will then go on SENATE before going off

Margaret

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of ColesSent: 28 June 2008 19:41 Subject: Re: Back on line

Best wishes , from .I have followed some of the NMC thread and, although no longer registered -as I am retired butstill active as Hon member of staff and witnessed by my publication this month in Com. Prac andtaking part in NSPCC conference in Birmingham next week - I do feel that a lot of what has been saidreflects my own experience and long held view.Why has this pretence that health visitors are automatically also lifelong nurses been perpetuatedfor so long? When professional people move on in life they build on their previous training anddevelop new skills. They automatically only retain what is useful in their new role, the restbecomes out of date and in danger of being wrongly applied in a different context. I found only alittle of my clinical nurse training relevant to health visiting and that needed updating for thenew context. What remained most strongly was an affinity with women and children in distress, but ofa social and emotional, not clinical, nature. By having a deeper understanding of this throughrelevant training from the first, health visitors could become better experts and more productive intheir roles than if they started out with mainly clinical knowlege.As an example, I was told of a weaning talk given to mothers in the community by a nurse.Apparantly she only talked in terms of volume of milk, i.e. assumed all the babies were bottle fed,read from prepared notes and could not answer questions related to family needs or needs ofbreastfeeding mothers returning work. The environment was not percieved as positive or supportive tomothers of fully breast fed babies. I think the training should not have been nursing but innutrition -value of breast feeding, policy - encouragement of breast feeding, social science - knowledge of women's employment, and legal - the rights of women in work, yet alone anunderstanding of any psychosocial issues of returning to work such as child care and the tensionsinvolved. In other words, health visiting.Nuff said! and yes, I will sign any letter circulated. Coles>>> Cowley <sarahcowley183btinternet> 28/06/2008 11:48 >>>Very many thanks to everyone for their good wishes; I am now out of hospital and not quite skipping, but improving with my new knee every day.I have lost the thread of the discussion about NMC; was there a letter being circulated?best wishessarahcowley183btinternet http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn

[Guest guest]

Hi Carys

I will see what I have on my computer at home

and forward anything to you. Am away now until next Friday so be patient with

me.

You will see from the letter from Jean

that we do have an issue with the NMC and the recent report has led us to

challenge and push again.

Ring me if you need to

Best wishes

Margaret

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of carys williams

Sent: 29 June 2008 19:06

Subject: Re: Back on

line

Dear Margaret

Hope you are well.

I have just registered with Senate. Previously

Skudlarz had sometimes forwarded items of interest to me however, I don't have

it all

Would it be a great deal of trouble for you to forward to me

any of the recent dialogue concerning the recent events at the NMC please?

Thank you

Carys

Re: Back on

line

Best

wishes , from .

I have followed some of the NMC thread and, although no longer registered -as I

am retired but

still active as Hon member of staff and witnessed by my publication this month

in Com. Prac and

taking part in NSPCC conference in Birmingham next week - I do feel

that a lot of what has been said

reflects my own experience and long held view.

Why has this pretence that health visitors are automatically also lifelong

nurses been perpetuated

for so long? When professional people move on in life they build on their previous

training and

develop new skills. They automatically only retain what is useful in their new

role, the rest

becomes out of date and in danger of being wrongly applied in a different

context. I found only a

little of my clinical nurse training relevant to health visiting and that

needed updating for the

new context. What remained most strongly was an affinity with women and

children in distress, but of

a social and emotional, not clinical, nature. By having a deeper understanding

of this through

relevant training from the first, health visitors could become better experts

and more productive in

their roles than if they started out with mainly clinical knowlege.

As an example, I was told of a weaning talk given to mothers in the community

by a nurse.

Apparantly she only talked in terms of volume of milk, i.e. assumed all the

babies were bottle fed,

read from prepared notes and could not answer questions related to family needs

or needs of

breastfeeding mothers returning work. The environment was not percieved as

positive or supportive to

mothers of fully breast fed babies. I think the training should not have been

nursing but in

nutrition -value of breast feeding, policy - encouragement of breast feeding,

social science -

knowledge of women's employment, and legal - the rights of women in work, yet

alone an

understanding of any psychosocial issues of returning to work such as child

care and the tensions

involved. In other words, health visiting.

Nuff said! and yes, I will sign any letter circulated.

Coles

>>> Cowley <sarahcowley183btinternet>

28/06/2008 11:48 >>>

Very many thanks to everyone for their good wishes; I am now out of

hospital and not quite skipping, but improving with my new knee every

day.

I have lost the thread of the discussion about NMC; was there a

letter being circulated?

best wishes

sarahcowley183btinternet

http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn

[Guest guest]

Dear Margaret and allMay thanks for starting this letter, which is extremely hard to write.  It is difficult to convey our concerns about the risk to the public, without just sounding petulant.  I have also drawn from Jean's letter, thanks.  I will be interested in any comments; it would be good to get it sent off quite soon, I suppose.kind regardsOn 29 Jun 2008, at 08:32, Margaret Buttigieg wrote:Thanks for this – I was just doing a draft of the letter and it was helpful. Am going to send it to to look at and change first now she is back on line and it will then go on SENATE before going off Margaret From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of ColesSent: 28 June 2008 19:41 Subject: Re: Back on line Best wishes , from .I have followed some of the NMC thread and, although no longer registered -as I am retired butstill active as Hon member of staff and witnessed by my publication this month in Com. Prac andtaking part in NSPCC conference in Birmingham next week - I do feel that a lot of what has been saidreflects my own experience and long held view.Why has this pretence that health visitors are automatically also lifelong nurses been perpetuatedfor so long? When professional people move on in life they build on their previous training anddevelop new skills. They automatically only retain what is useful in their new role, the restbecomes out of date and in danger of being wrongly applied in a different context. I found only alittle of my clinical nurse training relevant to health visiting and that needed updating for thenew context. What remained most strongly was an affinity with women and children in distress, but ofa social and emotional, not clinical, nature. By having a deeper understanding of this throughrelevant training from the first, health visitors could become better experts and more productive intheir roles than if they started out with mainly clinical knowlege.As an example, I was told of a weaning talk given to mothers in the community by a nurse.Apparantly she only talked in terms of volume of milk, i.e. assumed all the babies were bottle fed,read from prepared notes and could not answer questions related to family needs or needs ofbreastfeeding mothers returning work. The environment was not percieved as positive or supportive tomothers of fully breast fed babies. I think the training should not have been nursing but innutrition -value of breast feeding, policy - encouragement of breast feeding, social science - knowledge of women's employment, and legal - the rights of women in work, yet alone anunderstanding of any psychosocial issues of returning to work such as child care and the tensionsinvolved. In other words, health visiting.Nuff said! and yes, I will sign any letter circulated. Coles>>> Cowley <sarahcowley183btinternet> 28/06/2008 11:48 >>>Very many thanks to everyone for their good wishes; I am now out of hospital and not quite skipping, but improving with my new knee every day.I have lost the thread of the discussion about NMC; was there a letter being circulated?best wishessarahcowley183btinternet http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn sarahcowley183@...http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn

[Guest guest]



I think it is an excellent letter.

Best wishesMaggie

Re: Back on line>>>> Best wishes , from .>> I have followed some of the NMC thread and, although no longer > registered -as I am retired but> still active as Hon member of staff and witnessed by my publication > this month in Com. Prac and> taking part in NSPCC conference in Birmingham next week - I do feel > that a lot of what has been said> reflects my own experience and long held view.> Why has this pretence that health visitors are automatically also > lifelong nurses been perpetuated> for so long? When professional people move on in life they build on > their previous training and> develop new skills. They automatically only retain what is useful > in their new role, the rest> becomes out of date and in danger of being wrongly applied in a > different context. I found only a> little of my clinical nurse training relevant to health visiting > and that needed updating for the> new context. What remained most strongly was an affinity with women > and children in distress, but of> a social and emotional, not clinical, nature. By having a deeper > understanding of this through> relevant training from the first, health visitors could become > better experts and more productive in> their roles than if they started out with mainly clinical knowlege.> As an example, I was told of a weaning talk given to mothers in the > community by a nurse.> Apparantly she only talked in terms of volume of milk, i.e. assumed > all the babies were bottle fed,> read from prepared notes and could not answer questions related to > family needs or needs of> breastfeeding mothers returning work. The environment was not > percieved as positive or supportive to> mothers of fully breast fed babies. I think the training should not > have been nursing but in> nutrition -value of breast feeding, policy - encouragement of > breast feeding, social science -> knowledge of women's employment, and legal - the rights of women in > work, yet alone an> understanding of any psychosocial issues of returning to work such > as child care and the tensions> involved. In other words, health visiting.>> Nuff said! and yes, I will sign any letter circulated.> Coles>> >>> Cowley <sarahcowley183@...> 28/06/2008 11:48 >>>> Very many thanks to everyone for their good wishes; I am now out of> hospital and not quite skipping, but improving with my new knee every> day.>> I have lost the thread of the discussion about NMC; was there a> letter being circulated?>> best wishes>> >> sarahcowley183@...> http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn>>>> sarahcowley183@...http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn

[Guest guest]

Just a minor typo: should be maintain not maintained?: maintained general

nursing or midwifery

skills, unless they are expecting to work in those areas.

Otherwise I think it covers the ground and places the ball in their court for a

response as to what

are hvs to do under current situation?

Please add my name if needed. Title below. I am not aroud much in coming week.

Dr Coles PhD BA RHV RGN

Honorary Senior Research Fellow

Department of Child Health

Cardiff School of Medicine

Cardiff University

Heath Park

Cardiff CF14 4XN

Telephone: Department Secretary 02920 743374/5

>>> Cowley <sarahcowley183@...> 30/06/2008 22:05 >>>

[Guest guest]

thanks Maggie.  On 1 Jul 2008, at 14:00, Maggie Fisher wrote:I think it is an excellent letter. Best wishesMaggie Re: Back on line>>>> Best wishes , from .>> I have followed some of the NMC thread and, although no longer  > registered -as I am retired but> still active as Hon member of staff and witnessed by my publication  > this month in Com. Prac and> taking part in NSPCC conference in Birmingham next week - I do feel  > that a lot of what has been said> reflects my own experience and long held view.> Why has this pretence that health visitors are automatically also  > lifelong nurses been perpetuated> for so long? When professional people move on in life they build on  > their previous training and> develop new skills. They automatically only retain what is useful  > in their new role, the rest> becomes out of date and in danger of being wrongly applied in a  > different context. I found only a> little of my clinical nurse training relevant to health visiting  > and that needed updating for the> new context. What remained most strongly was an affinity with women  > and children in distress, but of> a social and emotional, not clinical, nature. By having a deeper  > understanding of this through> relevant training from the first, health visitors could become  > better experts and more productive in> their roles than if they started out with mainly clinical knowlege.> As an example, I was told of a weaning talk given to mothers in the  > community by a nurse.> Apparantly she only talked in terms of volume of milk, i.e. assumed  > all the babies were bottle fed,> read from prepared notes and could not answer questions related to  > family needs or needs of> breastfeeding mothers returning work. The environment was not  > percieved as positive or supportive to> mothers of fully breast fed babies. I think the training should not  > have been nursing but in> nutrition -value of breast feeding, policy - encouragement of  > breast feeding, social science -> knowledge of women's employment, and legal - the rights of women in  > work, yet alone an> understanding of any psychosocial issues of returning to work such  > as child care and the tensions> involved. In other words, health visiting.>> Nuff said! and yes, I will sign any letter circulated.> Coles>> >>> Cowley <sarahcowley183btinternet> 28/06/2008 11:48 >>>> Very many thanks to everyone for their good wishes; I am now out of> hospital and not quite skipping, but improving with my new knee every> day.>> I have lost the thread of the discussion about NMC; was there a> letter being circulated?>> best wishes>> >> sarahcowley183btinternet> http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn>>>> sarahcowley183btinternethttp://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn sarahcowley183@...http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn

[Guest guest]

Thanks ; typos noted.I will wait until Thursday or Friday, so that everyone has  achance to see and comment, before posting it, but would like to get it away this week.  best wishesOn 1 Jul 2008, at 14:51, Coles wrote:Just a minor typo: should be maintain not maintained?: maintained general nursing or midwiferyskills, unless they are expecting to work in those areas. Otherwise I think it covers the ground and places the ball in their court for a response as to whatare hvs to do under current situation?Please add my name if needed. Title below. I am not aroud much in coming week.Dr Coles PhD BA RHV RGNHonorary Senior Research FellowDepartment of Child HealthCardiff School of MedicineCardiff UniversityHeath ParkCardiff CF14 4XNTelephone: Department Secretary 02920 743374/5>>> Cowley <sarahcowley183btinternet> 30/06/2008 22:05 >>> sarahcowley183@...http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn

[Guest guest]

Hi

Sorry to be a little tardy in my response –

have been away as you know. – but thought you had made an excellent job of developing

my first draft so well done.

Am pleased to support it and hope it can

go off without further delay.

Hope you are feeling better and more

mobile

Speak soon

Margaret

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Cowley

Sent: 30 June 2008 22:05

Subject: Re: Back on

line

[Guest guest]

Thanks Margaret. I will incorporate the comments made by a few respondents and hope to post it by the end of the week.  One or two people have said they would be prepared to put their name to it.  I do think it would help to have more than just my name, even though I am clearly writing on behalf of the group.  Please will anyone who is prepared to 'sign up' let me know?  I will be sending it from my home address (I think a mailing address is required, to make it legitimate; web addresses only always look untraceable and suspect!), but do not think anyone else needs to give addresses.  Please let mw know of anyone knows or believes differently.best wishesOn 3 Jul 2008, at 12:43, Margaret Buttigieg wrote:Hi  Sorry to be a little tardy in my response – have been away as you know. – but thought you had made an excellent job of developing my first draft so well done. Am pleased to support it and hope it can go off without further delay.  Hope you are feeling better and more mobile Speak soon Margaret From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of CowleySent: 30 June 2008 22:05 Subject: Re: Back on line   sarahcowley183@...http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn

[Guest guest]

Hi

I was thinking along the same lines about

an address and actually a contact or maybe a few of us. with personal contact numbers

and emails.

Am more than happy for my name to go on it

and for me am happy for it say I am an independent consultant but that may be

more difficult for others.

What to other members think?

Margaret

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Cowley

Sent: 03 July 2008 12:52

Subject: Re: Back on

line

Thanks

Margaret.

I will incorporate the comments made by a few respondents and hope to

post it by the end of the week. One or two people have said they would be

prepared to put their name to it. I do think it would help to have more

than just my name, even though I am clearly writing on behalf of the

group. Please will anyone who is prepared to 'sign up' let me know?

I will be sending it from my home address (I think a mailing address is

required, to make it legitimate; web addresses only always look untraceable and

suspect!), but do not think anyone else needs to give addresses. Please

let mw know of anyone knows or believes differently.

best wishes

On 3 Jul 2008, at 12:43, Margaret Buttigieg wrote:

Hi

Sorry to be a little

tardy in my response – have been away as you know. – but thought you had made

an excellent job of developing my first draft so well done.

Am pleased to support it

and hope it can go off without further delay.

Hope you are feeling

better and more mobile

Speak soon

Margaret

From:

[mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Cowley

Sent:

30 June 2008 22:05

Subject:

Re: Back on line

sarahcowley183btinternet

http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn

[Guest guest]

Do put my name on it if you wish, and thanks.

Sheelah Seeley

Re: Back on line

Thanks Margaret.

I will incorporate the comments made by a few respondents and hope to post it by the end of the week. One or two people have said they would be prepared to put their name to it. I do think it would help to have more than just my name, even though I am clearly writing on behalf of the group. Please will anyone who is prepared to 'sign up' let me know? I will be sending it from my home address (I think a mailing address is required, to make it legitimate; web addresses only always look untraceable and suspect!), but do not think anyone else needs to give addresses. Please let mw know of anyone knows or believes differently.

best wishes

On 3 Jul 2008, at 12:43, Margaret Buttigieg wrote:

Hi

Sorry to be a little tardy in my response – have been away as you know. – but thought you had made an excellent job of developing my first draft so well done.

Am pleased to support it and hope it can go off without further delay.

Hope you are feeling better and more mobile

Speak soon

Margaret

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of CowleySent: 30 June 2008 22:05 Subject: Re: Back on line

sarahcowley183btinternet

http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn

[Guest guest]

I'd be happy to be associated with anything from Senate, especially

this. There are more prestigious folk here, but if it's numbers we

need....?

H

From: Cowley <sarahcowley183@...>

Date sent: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:51:59 +0100

Subject: Re: Back on line

Send reply to:

Thanks Margaret.

I will incorporate the comments made by a few respondents and hope to

post it by the end of the week. One or two people have said they

would be prepared to put their name to it. I do think it would help

to have more than just my name, even though I am clearly writing on

behalf of the group. Please will anyone who is prepared to 'sign up'

let me know? I will be sending it from my home address (I think a

mailing address is required, to make it legitimate; web addresses

only always look untraceable and suspect!), but do not think anyone

else needs to give addresses. Please let mw know of anyone knows or

believes differently.

best wishes

On 3 Jul 2008, at 12:43, Margaret Buttigieg wrote:

[Guest guest]

Happy to put my name to it as well

Best wishesMaggie

Re: Back on line

Thanks Margaret.

I will incorporate the comments made by a few respondents and hope to post it by the end of the week. One or two people have said they would be prepared to put their name to it. I do think it would help to have more than just my name, even though I am clearly writing on behalf of the group. Please will anyone who is prepared to 'sign up' let me know? I will be sending it from my home address (I think a mailing address is required, to make it legitimate; web addresses only always look untraceable and suspect!), but do not think anyone else needs to give addresses. Please let mw know of anyone knows or believes differently.

best wishes

On 3 Jul 2008, at 12:43, Margaret Buttigieg wrote:

Hi

Sorry to be a little tardy in my response – have been away as you know. – but thought you had made an excellent job of developing my first draft so well done.

Am pleased to support it and hope it can go off without further delay.

Hope you are feeling better and more mobile

Speak soon

Margaret

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of CowleySent: 30 June 2008 22:05 Subject: Re: Back on line

sarahcowley183btinternet

http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn

[Guest guest]

Yip! Add my e mail to this too

Margaret Holtz

Re: Back on line

Thanks Margaret.

I will incorporate the comments made by a few respondents and hope to post it by the end of the week. One or two people have said they would be prepared to put their name to it. I do think it would help to have more than just my name, even though I am clearly writing on behalf of the group. Please will anyone who is prepared to 'sign up' let me know? I will be sending it from my home address (I think a mailing address is required, to make it legitimate; web addresses only always look untraceable and suspect!), but do not think anyone else needs to give addresses. Please let mw know of anyone knows or believes differently.

best wishes

On 3 Jul 2008, at 12:43, Margaret Buttigieg wrote:

Hi

Sorry to be a little tardy in my response – have been away as you know. – but thought you had made an excellent job of developing my first draft so well done.

Am pleased to support it and hope it can go off without further delay.

Hope you are feeling better and more mobile

Speak soon

Margaret

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of CowleySent: 30 June 2008 22:05 Subject: Re:

Back on line

sarahcowley183@ btinternet. com

http://myprofile. cos.com/S124021C On

Not happy with your email address?

Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at

[Guest guest]

Do include me too if I am not too late

Best wishes

Val Thurtle

Re: Back on line

Thanks Margaret.

I will incorporate the comments made by a few respondents and hope to post it by the end of the week. One or two people have said they would be prepared to put their name to it. I do think it would help to have more than just my name, even though I am clearly writing on behalf of the group. Please will anyone who is prepared to 'sign up' let me know? I will be sending it from my home address (I think a mailing address is required, to make it legitimate; web addresses only always look untraceable and suspect!), but do not think anyone else needs to give addresses. Please let mw know of anyone knows or believes differently.

best wishes

On 3 Jul 2008, at 12:43, Margaret Buttigieg wrote:

Hi

Sorry to be a little tardy in my response – have been away as you know. – but thought you had made an excellent job of developing my first draft so well done.

Am pleased to support it and hope it can go off without further delay.

Hope you are feeling better and more mobile

Speak soon

Margaret

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of CowleySent: 30 June 2008 22:05 Subject: Re: Back on line

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tawny,

so glad you are back, i don't post a lot.... but i do enjoy your posts..

have a good day,

god bless

BETTY

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