Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Hi Margo, It might be the Lion's Mane, but it could also be due to stress, eating the wrong thing, an infective agent, etc. Visit this site to learn more about treating MS: http://tinyurl.com/advice-to-msers All the best, Dudley Delany http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I neglected to mention i am in the process of having my fillings out by a holistic dentist. i felt really well the day after i had my lst visit. then my gait worsen. my dds said that he wasn't surprised; that mercury escapes when metal fillings are taken out. he used a dental dam. this all happened after i stopped taking the horse chestnut. i have one more appointment. i will then begin to chelate, will the chelating process improve my symptoms? any suggestions on the best system? I am thinking of using cilantro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I have only had good things happen with Lion's Mane. If you are intolerant of mushrooms, Lion's Mane isn't for you. MS is so difficult, isn't it, it is so hard to pinpoint things. You should be happy that you don't have medical insurance - steroids are just bad news! Treat is all alternatively - it might take longer but there are no side-effects. Hope you feel better soon. Janet To: mscured From: margueriterichardson@... Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:54:43 +0000 Subject: symptoms worsening!!! I have been taking the supplements suggested for relapses shown in the link provided by Dudley. I am terrified. i have no medical insurance, therefore steroids isn't even an option for me. does any one have any suggestions? my knees are buckling and i am having tremor episodes in my legs while sitting and in my hands. the tremors are very recently. i don't know if it is coincidence, but my symptoms took a turn for the worse when i started to take lion's mane. has anyone else has any problems with this? i took 65 pills from a 90 pill 300mg bottle. i have a sealed bottle by the way if anyone is interested. i appreciate any help. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Hi Marguerite, If you use cilantro also take chlorella. Cilantro mobilizes, chlorella binds. Read some information from Dr. Dietrich Klinghart and cheation. Go slow and steady. I hope you notice improvement. any suggestions on the best system? I am thinking of using cilantro. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 > will the chelating process improve my symptoms? any suggestions on the best system? I am thinking of using cilantro. > Cilantro will only mobilize mercury, not bind it for removal from the body. It makes cell membranes more porous so the mercury can move out, but it could easily resettle somewhere else. What I would recommend is chlorella, it's an algae that is a " clean-up " tool. It will bind mercury in the bowel and move it out. You can get loose powder or capsules - look for " broken cell-wall " varieties. Your stool should turn green! Also work on increasing your sulfur intake, through fresh raw garlic, MSM, etc. HTH, Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Why are you taking lions mane, do you even know ? if you are getting your mercury fillings out and have a flare up, then mercury is the problem. Everyone is correct that recommended chlorella over cilantro. The last thing you want to do is mobilize more mercury. You need to get the stuff that is already stirred up out first. You asked for suggestions and my suggestion is that if you don't have insurance and you don't have a natural doctor to work with then you need to start studying more on what you are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 > > have you tried fasting? try fasting on juices (green juices) for couple of days. > I have tried it following Kopera's example and I think it works to relieve symptoms immidiately. First I echoed Alison on the chlorella, now I'm echoing you. lol I agree, fasting has always stopped symptoms for me as well. Even a short water-only fast, 32-36 hours total, will usually do the trick. Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I am also working on mercury and heavy metals, and had my amalgams out a couple months ago. I cannot tolerate chlorella or any of the super foods like spirulina and the green grasses. But I am doing well with a homeopathic that is for amalgam detox. I am also taking lots of vitamin C, drinking cilantro tea, and recently started taking modified citrus pectin. http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v & q=cache:lIpXzdFMQ_4J:researchednutritionals.co\ m/FactSheets/PectaSol%2520Mercury%2520Detox%2520Study.pdf+modified+citrus+pectin\ +for+mercury+chelation & hl=en & gl=us & sig=AHIEtbR3Uh8JW4A1WW3ytcdjXUiiMoqLUg I don't know if this link will work, but you can google for: PectaSol Mercury Detox Study. It seemed to have impressive results in lowering mercury and heavy metals, and so far I am tolerating it well with no side effects. I am taking the Source Naturals brand. I choose this one in part because the sodium content was lower than other brands and formulas. Removing the mercury fillings completely healed my gums and mouth, and I feel like I have new teeth and a brand new start. My sinuses, ears and general brain inflammation improved immediately, and continues to improve. I also have much less EMF sensitivities, and am really excited to see how far this takes me. The modified citrus pectin is also good for clearing the arteries apparently. Love, jnanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 > > Hi there, when you do the green fast are you getting off of your other supps, etc.? Just wondering if all should be stoppedhen fasting. > I stop all supplements when I'm fasting because the digestive system would need to be working to digest any capsules or tablets. If you are juice fasting, you could add something like Vitamin C powder to it if you felt you really needed it. With Master Cleanse, though, you shouldn't mess with the formula and add anything else. HTH! Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 > Removing the mercury fillings completely healed my gums and mouth, and I feel like I have new teeth and a brand new start. My sinuses, ears and general brain inflammation improved immediately, and continues to improve. I also have much less EMF sensitivities, and am really excited to see how far this takes me. > Congrats jnada and thanks for sharing this with us! Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 thank you everybody for all your replies. What i've read ranges from green juicing, 36 water fasting, and master cleanse for immediate relief. I am confused as to what to implement first, and if i do the water one lst do i then do the master cleanse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Don't even give it a worry you can do any of them and start seeing results of some sort. Even if you embark for 1 day you can make it from dinner to dinner so you dont feel like you really missing out. Always remember, The longer one goes the more lasting the healing will be. Always #1 get the colon moving even prior to a fast and that can be a jump start for you. It took me a long time before I came to terms of doing the PowerHouse as greens were never my favorite, at all. In desperation and in so much pain that I wanted to die, lead me to the 37 day PowerHouse fast which included 10 days of water, and the water only was my huge turning point. Also at that point I new Candida and Parasites was a huge culprit and the only way to get them in check is by not feeding them what they like and that was sugar, as I was the hugest sugar freak and even the natural sugar carrots, apples etc. feeds that issue, too. As I tried many different juices (sweeter ones), Master cleanse, watermelon you name it I did it in that 4 years and they all worked for me to a degree but it would never lasting. From loving sugar my whole life my finally body the price! Sugar is sugar no matter the form... Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera M.H. © Copyright 2007 www.sCorner.com . All rights reserved | Privacy Policy WARNING: None of the above statements have been evaluated or approved by the Food and Drug Administration or the American Medical Association. The information provided on this site is intended for your general knowledge only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice or treatment for specific medical conditions. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health care provider before using any herbal products. ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 6:39:36 PM Subject: Re: symptoms worsening!!! thank you everybody for all your replies. What i've read ranges from green juicing, 36 water fasting, and master cleanse for immediate relief. I am confused as to what to implement first, and if i do the water one lst do i then do the master cleanse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 > Always remember, > The longer one goes the more lasting the healing will be. > Always #1 get the colon moving even prior to a fast > and that can be a jump start for you. Hi , Always nice to see you around when talk turns to fasting. You are what inspired me to even try it in the first place. Still working up to trying a greens-only fast someday. The Master Cleanse drink is so much tastier, but would really like to do a fast without any sugar! Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I agree with that you will probably see some immediate relief no matter which you choose. Personally, I think that doing the short water fasts gave me the mental discipline to eventually try a longer juice fast - my longest Master Cleanse so far is 20 days, hoping for a 30-day this year! But if you are feeling really bad, you just might have the motivation to go several days right from the start. If you are feeling better on the 2nd day like I was on my first Master Cleanse, you will likely decide it's worth giving up food for a while. Crystal > I am confused as to what to implement first, and if i do the water one lst do i then do the master cleanse? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 May I also congratulate you on your accomplishment. Good news ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 1:47:47 PM Subject: Re: symptoms worsening!!! Â I am also working on mercury and heavy metals, and had my amalgams out a couple months ago. I cannot tolerate chlorella or any of the super foods like spirulina and the green grasses. But I am doing well with a homeopathic that is for amalgam detox. I am also taking lots of vitamin C, drinking cilantro tea, and recently started taking modified citrus pectin. http://docs. google.com/ viewer?a= v & q=cache: lIpXzdFMQ_ 4J:researchednut ritionals. com/FactSheets/ PectaSol% 2520Mercury% 2520Detox% 2520Study. pdf+modified+ citrus+pectin+ for+mercury+ chelation & hl=en & gl= us & sig=AHIEtbR3U h8JW4A1WW3ytcdjX UiiMoqLUg I don't know if this link will work, but you can google for: PectaSol Mercury Detox Study. It seemed to have impressive results in lowering mercury and heavy metals, and so far I am tolerating it well with no side effects. I am taking the Source Naturals brand. I choose this one in part because the sodium content was lower than other brands and formulas. Removing the mercury fillings completely healed my gums and mouth, and I feel like I have new teeth and a brand new start. My sinuses, ears and general brain inflammation improved immediately, and continues to improve. I also have much less EMF sensitivities, and am really excited to see how far this takes me. The modified citrus pectin is also good for clearing the arteries apparently. Love, jnanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 so, not being much of a water drinker, how much water would i drink daily? and stop all supplements and prescriptions? and the master cleanse is the lemon juice, organic grade b maple syrup (where does one get that?), cayenne pepper and filtered water? if i go the greens route (i don't have an aversion to this), what is the protocol for this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Hi Crystal- Thank you...and you will, you have determination, look how long you stayed on that fast. I loved the Master Cleanse a little too much. Back in those days after reading that book about the Maple Syrup I would think a little is good more is better and I actually would take a shot of the Maple syrup, too. Then I went on to SA (Sugar Anonymous) LOL. I always tried to be the a Deen of juicing, and unfortunately it tasted good but never panned out for healing a sick body. There was this one time my juice for 24 days was carrots and apples and I had about 25 pounds to lose, and only lost 8. I was convinced that I screwed up my metabolism with fasting. It turned out to be the sugar from those items is what stop me from losing. Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera M.H. © Copyright 2007 www.sCorner.com . All rights reserved | Privacy Policy WARNING: None of the above statements have been evaluated or approved by the Food and Drug Administration or the American Medical Association. The information provided on this site is intended for your general knowledge only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice or treatment for specific medical conditions. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health care provider before using any herbal products. ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 8:12:06 PM Subject: Re: symptoms worsening!!! > Always remember, > The longer one goes the more lasting the healing will be. > Always #1 get the colon moving even prior to a fast > and that can be a jump start for you. Hi , Always nice to see you around when talk turns to fasting. You are what inspired me to even try it in the first place. Still working up to trying a greens-only fast someday. The Master Cleanse drink is so much tastier, but would really like to do a fast without any sugar! Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 For a water fast, just drink as much as you want. On the Master Cleanse, I try to drink almost as many glasses of water as glasses of the lemonade since I'm trying to flush toxins and waste out. The grade B syrup can be hard to find, I usually use agave. It has a lot of trace minerals too, just a different makeup than the syrup. You could always use blackstrap molasses too, that's what is recommended for diabetics. Email me if you want the original booklet by Stanley Burroughs, I have it in a file I can send you! Hopefully will pop back in to advise on greens-only. She has her own Yahoo group too. Crystal > > so, not being much of a water drinker, how much water would i drink daily? and stop all supplements and prescriptions? and the master cleanse is the lemon juice, organic grade b maple syrup (where does one get that?), cayenne pepper and filtered water? if i go the greens route (i don't have an aversion to this), what is the protocol for this one? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Hi No you dont have to stop your supplements or medication. Grade B maple syrup is available at health-food stores. I remember being at grocery store and I was out of maple so I bought what they had there, it had to be filled with something else as my heart started beating fast after consuming, maybe corn-syrup added, something wasn't right. So pay the extra money for the good grade B it is worth it and taste better. My father used to process maple syrup he had what he called the sugar shack in upper Michigan. He mentioned to me that Maple syrup is actually considered a vegetable. To have access to all my files from my book go to www.ginascorner.com and scroll to the bottom and join the Herbalistic Detox group. When you join click on files and you will see the PowerHouse Fast and 20 others. If your not opposed to greens your in luck! I tend to use cucumber as a base to any green drink as it makes it more bearable for me. Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera M.H. © Copyright 2007 www.sCorner.com . All rights reserved | Privacy Policy WARNING: None of the above statements have been evaluated or approved by the Food and Drug Administration or the American Medical Association. The information provided on this site is intended for your general knowledge only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice or treatment for specific medical conditions. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health care provider before using any herbal products. ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 10:19:16 PM Subject: Re: symptoms worsening!!! so, not being much of a water drinker, how much water would i drink daily? and stop all supplements and prescriptions? and the master cleanse is the lemon juice, organic grade b maple syrup (where does one get that?), cayenne pepper and filtered water? if i go the greens route (i don't have an aversion to this), what is the protocol for this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 For water if you can move into distilled water, it is worth it. What distill water does is grab the inorganic minerals and salts. Most are concerned about getting minerals from water, it is replaced with the foods that you are consuming. Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera M.H. © Copyright 2007 www.sCorner.com . All rights reserved | Privacy Policy WARNING: None of the above statements have been evaluated or approved by the Food and Drug Administration or the American Medical Association. The information provided on this site is intended for your general knowledge only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice or treatment for specific medical conditions. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health care provider before using any herbal products. ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 7:50:50 AM Subject: Re: symptoms worsening!!! For a water fast, just drink as much as you want. On the Master Cleanse, I try to drink almost as many glasses of water as glasses of the lemonade since I'm trying to flush toxins and waste out. The grade B syrup can be hard to find, I usually use agave. It has a lot of trace minerals too, just a different makeup than the syrup. You could always use blackstrap molasses too, that's what is recommended for diabetics. Email me if you want the original booklet by Stanley Burroughs, I have it in a file I can send you! Hopefully will pop back in to advise on greens-only. She has her own Yahoo group too. Crystal > > so, not being much of a water drinker, how much water would i drink daily? and stop all supplements and prescriptions? and the master cleanse is the lemon juice, organic grade b maple syrup (where does one get that?), cayenne pepper and filtered water? if i go the greens route (i don't have an aversion to this), what is the protocol for this one? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Besides a health food store, you can find Grade B maple syrup at a Trader Joe's, if you have one near you. My understanding is that the Grade B is healthier, as it is less refined than Grade A and thus has more minerals in it?? Beverly > > > > > > so, not being much of a water drinker, how much water would i drink daily? and stop all supplements and prescriptions? and the master cleanse is the lemon juice, organic grade b maple syrup (where does one get that?), cayenne pepper and filtered water? if i go the greens route (i don't have an aversion to this), what is the protocol for this one? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 Have been on MCP for over a month now to rid myself of lead and Gadolinium. Don't feel any better yet. If this doesn't work I'm geeting DetoxMaxPlus for metals detox as well as constant lightheadedness/dizziness. > > May I also congratulate you on your accomplishment. Good news > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: mscured > Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 1:47:47 PM > Subject: Re: symptoms worsening!!! > >  > I am also working on mercury and heavy metals, and had my amalgams out a couple months ago. I cannot tolerate chlorella or any of the super foods like spirulina and the green grasses. But I am doing well with a homeopathic that is for amalgam detox. I am also taking lots of vitamin C, drinking cilantro tea, and recently started taking modified citrus pectin. > > http://docs. google.com/ viewer?a= v & q=cache: lIpXzdFMQ_ 4J:researchednut ritionals. com/FactSheets/ PectaSol% 2520Mercury% 2520Detox% 2520Study. pdf+modified+ citrus+pectin+ for+mercury+ chelation & hl=en & gl= us & sig=AHIEtbR3U h8JW4A1WW3ytcdjX UiiMoqLUg > > I don't know if this link will work, but you can google for: PectaSol Mercury Detox Study. It seemed to have impressive results in lowering mercury and heavy metals, and so far I am tolerating it well with no side effects. I am taking the Source Naturals brand. I choose this one in part because the sodium content was lower than other brands and formulas. > > Removing the mercury fillings completely healed my gums and mouth, and I feel like I have new teeth and a brand new start. My sinuses, ears and general brain inflammation improved immediately, and continues to improve. I also have much less EMF sensitivities, and am really excited to see how far this takes me. > > The modified citrus pectin is also good for clearing the arteries apparently. > > Love, > jnanda > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 People generally feel worse before they feel better when they detox. Slow down some with the MCP and the symptoms will lessen. You may be killing the parasites that tend to cling to infectious areas and thereby causing more toxic waste than you can eliminate quickly enough. It took a long time to build up the metals and you can't get them out in a hurry without feeling discomfort. > > Have been on MCP for over a month now to rid myself of lead and Gadolinium. Don't feel any better yet. If this doesn't work I'm geeting DetoxMaxPlus for metals detox as well as constant lightheadedness/dizziness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Can you please help me? I have 2 very bad issues at this time 1. Uti 2. I had optic neuritis in my left eye in OCT 2003 and never healed completely and now I think I have it again in my right eye. If I see a doctor they will prescribe heavy meds which I don't want to take Can you please suggest what I should do? Best Regards, Raj People generally feel worse before they feel better when they detox. Slow down some with the MCP and the symptoms will lessen. You may be killing the parasites that tend to cling to infectious areas and thereby causing more toxic waste than you can eliminate quickly enough. It took a long time to build up the metals and you can't get them out in a hurry without feeling discomfort. > > Have been on MCP for over a month now to rid myself of lead and Gadolinium. Don't feel any better yet. If this doesn't work I'm geeting DetoxMaxPlus for metals detox as well as constant lightheadedness/dizziness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Raj, " Lutein " and " Bilberry " are very good for your eyes. Also Vit. " A " ...all inexpensive supplement. For UTI..try " D-Mannose " teaspoon in 8 oz. of water 3 times a day....Also inexpe1nsive1. Regards, Tom Re: Re: symptoms worsening!!! Can you please help me? I have 2 very bad issues at this time 1. Uti 2. I had optic neuritis in my left eye in OCT 2003 and never healed completely and now I think I have it again in my right eye. If I see a doctor they will prescribe heavy meds which I don't want to take Can you please suggest what I should do? Best Regards, Raj People generally feel worse before they feel better when they detox. Slow down some with the MCP and the symptoms will lessen. You may be killing the parasites that tend to cling to infectious areas and thereby causing more toxic waste than you can eliminate quickly enough. It took a long time to build up the metals and you can't get them out in a hurry without feeling discomfort. > > Have been on MCP for over a month now to rid myself of lead and Gadolinium. Don't feel any better yet. If this doesn't work I'm geeting DetoxMaxPlus for metals detox as well as constant lightheadedness/dizziness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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