Re: Flu and RA

[Guest guest]

Sorry you have the flu, Carol. Did you get a flu shot and still get

the flu? Or had you not had time to get one yet? My rheumy always

makes sure that I get one. I saw him in mid October and got mine then.

Are you taking Tamiflu or anything similar? That is supposed to help,

I understand.

Good luck!

Sue

On Nov 17, 2010, at 4:59 PM, CAROLT wrote:

> The flu is running rampant in my house but it has really hit me

> hard. I cant seem to get rid of it. My RA is pretty under control

> right now but I feel like this bug has brought on a flare up. I dont

> know if I should let it runs its course. Is this normal. Thanks in

> advance. I have only been diagnosed for a year so I am still learning.

[Guest guest]

Don't feel bad about being new and asking questions! I've had RA for 8 years now

and still learning. I got the flu too, and it was really hard to tell what was

RA achy and what was flu achy. I do feel like it's taking a looong time to

recover. Personally, I'm going to go see my rheumy and let him figure it out.

in So Cal

Life may not be the party we hoped for,

but while we're here

we might as well dance.

From: IM4BUCS2000@...

Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:59:13 +0000

Subject: [ ] Flu and RA

The flu is running rampant in my house but it has really hit me hard. I

cant seem to get rid of it. My RA is pretty under control right now but I feel

like this bug has brought on a flare up. I dont know if I should let it runs its

course. Is this normal. Thanks in advance. I have only been diagnosed for a year

so I am still learning.

Carol

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol...I would definitely be calling your rheumatologist.....its the

best thing to do in your case. He would have something he could prescribe.

Give him a call today or tomorrow. that's important. Hugs..a

In a message dated 11/17/2010 4:45:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

IM4BUCS2000@... writes:

The flu is running rampant in my house but it has really hit me hard. I

cant seem to get rid of it. My RA is pretty under control right now but I

feel like this bug has brought on a flare up. I dont know if I should let it

runs its course. Is this normal. Thanks in advance. I have only been

diagnosed for a year so I am still learning.

Carol

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[Guest guest]

hi carol,

I had the flu real bad last year while taking enbrel.I got over it in a

week.(first year i did not get a flu shot).My rheumy always tells me not to

worry too much about virus's,more just bacterial infections while on RA meds.I

would still contact your rheumy.What meds do you take?

rob

From: IM4BUCS2000@...

Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:59:13 +0000

Subject: [ ] Flu and RA

The flu is running rampant in my house but it has really hit me hard. I cant

seem to get rid of it. My RA is pretty under control right now but I feel like

this bug has brought on a flare up. I dont know if I should let it runs its

course. Is this normal. Thanks in advance. I have only been diagnosed for a year

so I am still learning.

Carol

[Guest guest]

Help!

This topic brings up a problem I have with taking a flu shot. My Rheumatologist

always tells me to get the shot and I say " ok " ....but........I don't. I have

this thing about vaccines and what they deliver into one's system. I KNOW that

the virus is a killed virus and that it cannot cause the flu, but I don't trust

the affects of the chemicals used to deliver the killed virus. Can anyone

persuade me that I being paranoid and should take the shot? I have read Mercola

and what he says sounds like a conspiracy theory and is extreme....but maybe he

has a point?

I have had RA for 8 years and am doing pretty good on Methotrexate alone. No

colds or flu in years.....

Rojo

Noble Beasts Ranch

Grass Valley, CA

[Guest guest]

>

> > Yes, I believe that you're being paranoid. How could the flu shot be

> > worse than the flu itself? Some people die from the flu. I have never

> > had any ill effects from a flu shot, not even a sore arm. Just think

> > positively and tell yourself that you will have none. Good luck!

>

> There are risks, just as with all vaccines, such as;

>

> http://coldflu.about.com/od/flu/p/guillainbarre.htm

There are risks getting in your car and driving to the grocery store, but I

don't see many people deciding to starve to death because they could get into an

accident on the way to the store.

J

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

This is just what I was looking for to help me decide to take a flu shot or not.

Since my immune system is already compromised, I'll just wash my hands a lot,

eat and sleep well, and stay away from sick people. Seems like the prudent

thing to do.

Rojo

Re: Flu and RA

Posted by: " Terzo " sarah5775@... clinicquotes

Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:20 am (PST)

Guillain Barr� syndrome is a real risk because of the swine flu shot that is

contained in the new vaccine. It can be fatal, and in many cases causes

permanent paralysis. There are no laws requiring this condition to be

reported to the CDC, so we don't know how many people have been getting it

from the current vaccine.

Now, it should be noted that in previous years the risk was low- there was

no swine flu vaccine contained in the " regular " flu shot. With the

introduction of the new swine flu component of the vaccine, the risk this

year is many times higher. Do a little research about the outbreak in 1976,

where thousands of people got the condition after the swine flu component

was added THEN.

The flu shot is Far more dangerous this year than it has been in years past

due to the increased risk of Guillian Barre due to the swine flu component.

I have decided not to get it. I'd rather get the flu than risk being

paralyzed for the rest of my life.

here is an article the New York times

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/09/health/09vaccine.html?_r=1

Here is a case study- this guy was lucky- he gained back use of his arms.

http://curezone.com/art/read.asp?ID=30 & db=12 & C0=735

Here is another one, a teenager in

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/282042

There have been five reported cases already, in the US alone, and the

vaccine was only released a month ago. And keep in mind, that may be only

the tip of the iceberg because there is NO LAW requiring the reporting.

In Canada, two perfectly healthy people got Gullian Barre from the same flu

shot given in the same doctor's office:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/canadians-contract-guillain-barre-syndrome-after-swi\

ne-flu-shot-in-same-doctors-office.html

Both people cannot sue, because the doctor's office required them to sign a

waiver before getting the flu shot. Most doctor's offices requite a waiver

this year because the risk of the syndrome is so high, and they do not want

to get sued. If you go for a flu shot, take note of whether they want you to

sign a waiver. I am pretty sure they will.

They are talking about this possibility of no-fault compensation in Canada:

http://digitaljournal.com/article/276290

In this article, Canadian doctors admit that the vaccine for swine flu was

rushed into production and has not been fully tested.

England is also tracking Gullian Barre, although this article downplays the

risk:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine-flu/6038460/Doctors-told-to-watch-for-Gu\

illain-Barre-syndrome-during-Swine-flu-vaccination-programme.html

Guillain Barr� is a real risk. I risk I personally have decided not to

take. It is NOT paranoid to be concerned about this.