Guest guest Posted November 25, 1998 Report Share Posted November 25, 1998 TOWNLEY wrote: Donna, I had lots of minor skin problems including eczema on my feet and dermatitis around the corners of my mouth before developing rosacea, but I'm not familiar with the term perioral dermatitis. (Interestingly enough, sulfa cream was the only with that would get the rash around my mouth...) Does perioral mean "around the mouth"? If so, I had it. Where did you see reference to it being a precurser? Thanks. Kerry- Perioral is "around the mouth". I had the perioral dermatitis before I had rosacea. It went all the way down to my chin, below the nose, and onto my cheeks. My doctor prescribed cortisone for the dermatitis. After it went away, that's when the rosacea showed up and I've had it ever since. I had read somewhere on the net that it may be a juvenile form of rosacea. Of course, I am still looking for it and cannot find it anywhere. I will let you know when I find it. The treatment for it is the same as for rosacea - metrocream, sulfacet, tetracyclines, etc. Donna G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 1998 Report Share Posted November 25, 1998 I'm the third or fourth person on this group that was first diagnosed with " perioral dermatitis. " At that time, I remember the derm saying it might be my toothpaste. However, to go back to the beginning of rosacea, my skin was perfect as a teen. At that time I diligently washed with a potent antimicrobial, Phisohex (contained hexaclorophene) The medication still may be on the market in the original formulation; I haven't checked lately. As a youngster, I had eczema and I have big time allergies now. Been taking Allegra and now my rosacea seems to be a nearly permanent condition. It did improve majorely when I was taking Clindamycin (general antibiotic for bad root canal) I have not been real diligent with Metrocreme, I tend to rely on foundation to " cover up " . I think I may have to go to Dermablend (supposed to conceal everything) Just my HO, I am not keen on long term antibiotics, taken orally. If I had evidence that it would cure the rosacea after 2 or 3 months, I might give it a try. P.S., went to CVS and tried the Clotrimazole on one-half my face. Will report back. DON'T DRINK TOO MUCH AND AVOID RED WINES. HAPPY BIRD DAY AND I'M THANKFUL FOR BEING ABLE TO COOK A BIG MEAL FOR EVERYONE. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 1998 Report Share Posted November 25, 1998 Donna G. Interesting!...Let me know if you do come across that reference about perioral dermatitis. Esther I checked out the information about Sjorben's Syndrome, and I have every symptom except dry mouth. I hope that means it's a coincidence! Kerrry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 1998 Report Share Posted November 27, 1998 Hi there, Perioral dermatitis is a form of inflammatory rash common in the area around the mouth. It is a " cousin " of acne and seborrheic dermatitis just as rosacea is, since they all involve the oil glands. They may also share trigger factors such as genetics, hormonal, stress etc. I suspect that it is a coincidence for someone with eczema background to also have PD. It is not related to sjogren disease which is an autoimmune disease. You are right to say that treatments are somewhat similar such as tetracyclines, topicals containing sulfacetamide, sulfur etc. PD responds to cortisone cream which should be low potency type. Some types of cortisone cream (fluorinated -more potent ones) may aggravate PD. I am not aware as to whether or not metronidazoles help PD or not. I hope this helps you. Sy M.D. Sy Skin Carehttp://www.lindasy.comVoice:Toll-Free 877-lindasy (546-3279)FAX- To: rosacea-supportegroups <rosacea-supportegroups> Re: perioral dermatitis Donna G. Interesting!...Let me know if you do come across that reference about perioral dermatitis. Esther I checked out the information about Sjorben's Syndrome, and I have every symptom except dry mouth. I hope that means it's a coincidence! Kerrry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 1998 Report Share Posted November 28, 1998 In a message dated 11/27/98 11:14:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, sy@... writes: << It is not related to sjogren disease which is an autoimmune disease. >> You're talking about PD, right? cea is listed as one of Sjogrne's side effects in their support literature. Esther ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 1998 Report Share Posted November 28, 1998 and all, I am quite concerned about the possibility of having this sjogren's syndrome and wondered if anyone has information about diagnosing it. Thanks. Kerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 1998 Report Share Posted November 28, 1998 In a message dated 11/27/98 11:14:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, sy@... writes: << It is not related to sjogren disease which is an autoimmune disease. >> , Nice to have you on board. It'll help keep us all from getting too confused. Just wanted to make sure you were referring to PD here and not rosacea. In the Sjogren's literature rosacea is listed as one of the side effects. It's important to know that if you have a very dry mouth, dry eyes and rosacea, it's worth talking to your doctor. Esther ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 1998 Report Share Posted November 29, 1998 In a message dated 11/28/98 11:35:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, ptownleysmith@... writes: << I am quite concerned about the possibility of having this sjogren's syndrome and wondered if anyone has information about diagnosing it. >> Kerry, Talk to your doctor and play safe. He can tell you what tests you need. Good luck. Esther ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 1998 Report Share Posted November 30, 1998 In a message dated 11/29/98 11:01:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, sy@... writes: << Perhaps they are referring to the fact that similar type of eye symptoms such as dryness, photophobia, sensation of foreign body or grittiness, burning or redness of the eyes are seen in both SS and rosacea. In dermatologic literature, I haven't seen mention of rosacea being part of SS. >> , I haven't seen it either in dermatologic (gee, I couldn't spell that if my life depended on it ) literature but a close friend on mine is very involved in SS's foundation. She's the person who told me that it states in their literature that rosacea flushing can be one of any number of side effects with SS. (She does have rosacea as a side effect) It sort of doesn't matter, in a way. I posted that, originally, when someone with ocular rosacea asked about also having a dry mouth. Whenever I hear someone with dry eyes or ocular rosacea mention also having a dry mouth, I tell them the little I know so they'll ask their doctor the next time they see him/her. I don't think that many folks with rosacea have SS. I sure don't think it's worth being tested for unless you have other symptoms - like a dry mouth. But if you do ocular rosacea and are having other problems as well, having facial rosacea, does not mean necessarily that the ocular rosacea diagnose is always right. If you also have a dry mouth, you could be misdiagnosed, at least you should discuss it with your doctor. Esther ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 1998 Report Share Posted November 30, 1998 , I have dry eyes and tiny red dots all over my body which look like tiny pinpoints of blood vessels at the surface of the skin (which is something I saw in SS literature as a symptom). I drink a lot of water for my rosacea and asthma, and since I always have to breathe through my mouth, it is usually a little dry but I don't think it would qualify as medically dry mouth. How do you determine this? Also, could you explain what LE and polymyositis are in brief? I am familiar with scleroderma and my father has rheumatoid arthritis. I appreciate your time and assistance! Kerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 1998 Report Share Posted December 1, 1998 Kerry, It's impossible to be a " blind dermatologist " ! Can't diagnose accurately without seeing the lesions. It's possible that your red dots could be " cherry angiomas " which are quite common and can be seen with more birthdays. On the other hand, they could also be telangiectases (broken blood vessels) which can be associated with connective tissue diseases. Lupus erythematosus and polymyositis are just examples of collagen diseases that can be associated with SS as is rheumatoid arthritis. Look them up on the net. I'm sure it's easy to do. Sy M.D. Sy Skin Carehttp://www.lindasy.comVoice:Toll-Free 877-lindasy (546-3279)FAX- Re: perioral dermatitis , I have dry eyes and tiny red dots all over my body which look like tiny pinpoints of blood vessels at the surface of the skin (which is something I saw in SS literature as a symptom). I drink a lot of water for my rosacea and asthma, and since I always have to breathe through my mouth, it is usually a little dry but I don't think it would qualify as medically dry mouth. How do you determine this? Also, could you explain what LE and polymyositis are in brief? I am familiar with scleroderma and my father has rheumatoid arthritis. I appreciate your time and assistance! Kerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 Hi all, I've been interested in the posts about perioral dermatitis. I have never noticed that toothpastes aggravate mine, but I have noticed that eating too much sugar (of any variety) causes mine to flare up. I don't know if anyone else out there is a sugar junky, but cutting back really helps my pd and rosacea as well. Kerry ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 Kerry, If I eat lots of surgary goodies late at night, I get a bit of flushing and bumps the next morning. My cheeks swell up slightly as well. I eat sugar in moderation for sure. But I miss those 11pm hot fudge sundaes! Boo Hoo :-( That doesn't seem to effect the pd, though. Matija ---PAUL TOWNLEY-SMITH wrote: > > Hi all, > I've been interested in the posts about perioral dermatitis. I have never > noticed that toothpastes aggravate mine, but I have noticed that eating too > much sugar (of any variety) causes mine to flare up. I don't know if anyone > else out there is a sugar junky, but cutting back really helps my pd and > rosacea as well. > Kerry > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Backing up has never been easier. Here's an automatic, > Hassle free way to protect your valuable data without > Extra hardware. Download, install and try @Backup. > http://offers./click/215/1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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