Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I order my dressing on the side, or ask them to hold the dressing completely. The only salad dressing I can eat is that which I make myself because of the MSG. Have you tried flax cereal? It's simple to make... 1/4 cup freshly ground flax seeds, 1/2 c boiling water, 1 tsp cinnamon. The original recipe calls fr 2 TBS peanut butter, but peanuts are a legume. I use almond, cashew or sunflower seed butter in mine and it works well. For a change, I add 1 TBS cocoa powder and a drop of stevia extract. Yvette On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:57 AM, matherlyclan wrote: > > > I was just wondering how you can stick to the BBD while traveling? If i > order salad in a regular restaurant what salad dressing can i order? Also > what can I eat for breakfast at home besides fruit? Any cereals i can buy? > Thanks Sue > > > -- Yvette Freelance Writer www.msquill.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 It is easy to stick to the BBD here in Spain where salad dressings are only ever olive oil and red wine vinegar. Ask for oil and vinegar on the side and most restaurants will oblige. If not, squeeza a lemon over salad. Plain grilled or barbecued food are the safest when eating out. Fresh fruit for dessert. Breakfasts in hotels are tricky but if you find a cereal (corn?) you can eat, use the fruit juice in place of milk on it. I don't know about America but you should be able to find much more than I can here. Quinoa chocopops, inflated quinoa with honey, inflated rice, buckwheat, corn in various guises, millet ............. I rotate my breakfasts. Home-made muesli with various dried fruit and nuts, coconut, pumpkin seeds, flax seeds, etc, and any of the milks - nut/hemp or fruit juice. Savoury crackers - the same quinoa, buckwheat, etc. and chestnut crackers, with sugar-free marmalade/apricot jam. Eggs. Rice cakes and nut butter (NOT peanut), cold cuts in limitation with rice cakes. I never have the same grain within 4 days and feel that is keeping further allergies at bay. Janet To: mscured From: matherlyclan@... Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:57:09 +0000 Subject: traveling I was just wondering how you can stick to the BBD while traveling? If i order salad in a regular restaurant what salad dressing can i order? Also what can I eat for breakfast at home besides fruit? Any cereals i can buy? Thanks Sue _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 How do you make muesli? I love to make it. Thanks! Sue > > > It is easy to stick to the BBD here in Spain where salad dressings are only ever olive oil and red wine vinegar. Ask for oil and vinegar on the side and most restaurants will oblige. If not, squeeza a lemon over salad. Plain grilled or barbecued food are the safest when eating out. Fresh fruit for dessert. > > Breakfasts in hotels are tricky but if you find a cereal (corn?) you can eat, use the fruit juice in place of milk on it. > > I don't know about America but you should be able to find much more than I can here. Quinoa chocopops, inflated quinoa with honey, inflated rice, buckwheat, corn in various guises, millet ............. I rotate my breakfasts. Home-made muesli with various dried fruit and nuts, coconut, pumpkin seeds, flax seeds, etc, and any of the milks - nut/hemp or fruit juice. Savoury crackers - the same quinoa, buckwheat, etc. and chestnut crackers, with sugar-free marmalade/apricot jam. Eggs. Rice cakes and nut butter (NOT peanut), cold cuts in limitation with rice cakes. I never have the same grain within 4 days and feel that is keeping further allergies at bay. > > Janet > > > To: mscured > From: matherlyclan@... > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:57:09 +0000 > Subject: traveling > > > > > > I was just wondering how you can stick to the BBD while traveling? If i order salad in a regular restaurant what salad dressing can i order? Also what can I eat for breakfast at home besides fruit? Any cereals i can buy? Thanks Sue > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 On salad, I use olive oil (very high quality) and a very small amount of a flavored vinegar (we're not supposed to have vinegar, but as cheats go, I think this is not so bad). For breakfast, I do one of three things: fruit smoothie with coconut kefir and powered rice protein (from my doctor) or a sandwich (toasted) with almond butter and fruit spread or a sandwich (toasted) with a fried egg. The bread I get is gluten-free and comes from a bakery in Tampa (samisbakery.com). They make regular breads too, so be careful when choosing. There are also rice cereals available in bulk at most markets (like Whole Foods). They are simply crunchy rice (like rice crispies but without the sugar). I've also had some organic corn flakes as well. Most important is reading labels because things are sometime hidden, or cryptic (like all the names for MSG). In restaurants I have found that most are very willing to help. I don't say I have MS or anything, but I do say that I am allergic to gluten and therefore eat no wheat products. I ask for sauces to be left off, and have to ask lots of other questions if the item on the menu is unfamiliar. Most places can do a basic broiled fish in olive oil, or some clean chicken or beef. One thing that I've been trying to figure out is how I will attend the meditation retreats that I used to go to - they do a strictly vegetarian diet during the course - lots of soy and dairy and legumes. Not sure what to do there... or if I travel again to India. When I visted there a few years ago, I ate mostly legumes and chapati (flat wheat bread). Can't get beef at all in India after all... and chicken can sometimes be a bit scary. The BBD diet can be tough, and sometimes even depressing for me... but after more than a year, I've pretty much gotten used to it and I am very aware of the change in how I feel when I stray. Feel free to email me one-on-one for support or just to chat. Margie  ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 11:57:09 AM Subject: traveling  I was just wondering how you can stick to the BBD while traveling? If i order salad in a regular restaurant what salad dressing can i order? Also what can I eat for breakfast at home besides fruit? Any cereals i can buy? Thanks Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I haven't read all your email yet but we ARE allowed vinegar on the BBD. Just not malt vinegar. Janet To: mscured From: muchmetta@... Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:54:24 -0700 Subject: Re: traveling On salad, I use olive oil (very high quality) and a very small amount of a flavored vinegar (we're not supposed to have vinegar, but as cheats go, I think this is not so bad). For breakfast, I do one of three things: fruit smoothie with coconut kefir and powered rice protein (from my doctor) or a sandwich (toasted) with almond butter and fruit spread or a sandwich (toasted) with a fried egg. The bread I get is gluten-free and comes from a bakery in Tampa (samisbakery.com). They make regular breads too, so be careful when choosing. There are also rice cereals available in bulk at most markets (like Whole Foods). They are simply crunchy rice (like rice crispies but without the sugar). I've also had some organic corn flakes as well. Most important is reading labels because things are sometime hidden, or cryptic (like all the names for MSG). In restaurants I have found that most are very willing to help. I don't say I have MS or anything, but I do say that I am allergic to gluten and therefore eat no wheat products. I ask for sauces to be left off, and have to ask lots of other questions if the item on the menu is unfamiliar. Most places can do a basic broiled fish in olive oil, or some clean chicken or beef. One thing that I've been trying to figure out is how I will attend the meditation retreats that I used to go to - they do a strictly vegetarian diet during the course - lots of soy and dairy and legumes. Not sure what to do there... or if I travel again to India. When I visted there a few years ago, I ate mostly legumes and chapati (flat wheat bread). Can't get beef at all in India after all... and chicken can sometimes be a bit scary. The BBD diet can be tough, and sometimes even depressing for me... but after more than a year, I've pretty much gotten used to it and I am very aware of the change in how I feel when I stray. Feel free to email me one-on-one for support or just to chat. Margie ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 11:57:09 AM Subject: traveling I was just wondering how you can stick to the BBD while traveling? If i order salad in a regular restaurant what salad dressing can i order? Also what can I eat for breakfast at home besides fruit? Any cereals i can buy? Thanks Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I just use oil and vinegar on salads as well. In addition to the breakfast stuff already mentioned, I occasionally use certified gluten-free oats for oatmeal or homemade granola. Enjoy Life makes english muffins and bagels, but I haven't tried them yet. Oh, and check out " Bakery on Main " granolas. I can't have them anymore because of the corn, but I thought they were yummy and I used to pick up a bag when it went on sale. When I have fruit for breakfast, I usually have a handful of nuts too. Or, my favorite, a banana or two slathered with sunflower seed butter. YUM! Crystal > > I was just wondering how you can stick to the BBD while traveling? If i order salad in a regular restaurant what salad dressing can i order? Also what can I eat for breakfast at home besides fruit? Any cereals i can buy? Thanks Sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Thanks everyone! I feel less stressed now. Im going to purchase these things at whole foods and bring them with me. Sue > > > > I was just wondering how you can stick to the BBD while traveling? If i order salad in a regular restaurant what salad dressing can i order? Also what can I eat for breakfast at home besides fruit? Any cereals i can buy? Thanks Sue > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 All I do is mix together the ingredients I have found that are BBD in the local healthfood store. E.g dried papaya, mango, pineapple. banana, raisins, sultanas, figs, prunes, dates, apple, raspberries, blueberries, coconut, hazlenuts, pine nuts, walnuts, (but I keep all nuts separate so I rotate them), flax seed, pumpkin seed, etc., etc. and keep it in a tupperware in the fridge. I keep all my muesli bases separate - buckwheat, millet, quinoa, amaranth, rice (you can use corn too but I have an allergy to that) and rotate them using the various milks (hemp, various nuts, rice) or fruit juice adding the dried fruit base. You can stick it all in a low oven to make it more " muesli " . Another thing is to grate apple, one of the grains (gluten free oats would be the best though I haven't tried it) mix it with one of the " milks " , add a bit of lemon juice and some raisins/sultanas and leave it overnight in the fridge then add what you want to it in the morning. I am sure others have some better ideas but this works for me. Janet To: mscured From: matherlyclan@... Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:19:22 +0000 Subject: Re: traveling How do you make muesli? I love to make it. Thanks! Sue > > > It is easy to stick to the BBD here in Spain where salad dressings are only ever olive oil and red wine vinegar. Ask for oil and vinegar on the side and most restaurants will oblige. If not, squeeza a lemon over salad. Plain grilled or barbecued food are the safest when eating out. Fresh fruit for dessert. > > Breakfasts in hotels are tricky but if you find a cereal (corn?) you can eat, use the fruit juice in place of milk on it. > > I don't know about America but you should be able to find much more than I can here. Quinoa chocopops, inflated quinoa with honey, inflated rice, buckwheat, corn in various guises, millet ............. I rotate my breakfasts. Home-made muesli with various dried fruit and nuts, coconut, pumpkin seeds, flax seeds, etc, and any of the milks - nut/hemp or fruit juice. Savoury crackers - the same quinoa, buckwheat, etc. and chestnut crackers, with sugar-free marmalade/apricot jam. Eggs. Rice cakes and nut butter (NOT peanut), cold cuts in limitation with rice cakes. I never have the same grain within 4 days and feel that is keeping further allergies at bay. > > Janet > > > To: mscured > From: matherlyclan@... > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:57:09 +0000 > Subject: traveling > > > > > > I was just wondering how you can stick to the BBD while traveling? If i order salad in a regular restaurant what salad dressing can i order? Also what can I eat for breakfast at home besides fruit? Any cereals i can buy? Thanks Sue > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Eggs? Eggs are not allowed according to Dudley's link > > > It is easy to stick to the BBD here in Spain where salad dressings are only ever olive oil and red wine vinegar. Ask for oil and vinegar on the side and most restaurants will oblige. If not, squeeza a lemon over salad. Plain grilled or barbecued food are the safest when eating out. Fresh fruit for dessert. > > Breakfasts in hotels are tricky but if you find a cereal (corn?) you can eat, use the fruit juice in place of milk on it. > > I don't know about America but you should be able to find much more than I can here. Quinoa chocopops, inflated quinoa with honey, inflated rice, buckwheat, corn in various guises, millet ............. I rotate my breakfasts. Home-made muesli with various dried fruit and nuts, coconut, pumpkin seeds, flax seeds, etc, and any of the milks - nut/hemp or fruit juice. Savoury crackers - the same quinoa, buckwheat, etc. and chestnut crackers, with sugar-free marmalade/apricot jam. Eggs. Rice cakes and nut butter (NOT peanut), cold cuts in limitation with rice cakes. I never have the same grain within 4 days and feel that is keeping further allergies at bay. > > Janet > > > To: mscured > From: matherlyclan@... > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:57:09 +0000 > Subject: traveling > > > > > > I was just wondering how you can stick to the BBD while traveling? If i order salad in a regular restaurant what salad dressing can i order? Also what can I eat for breakfast at home besides fruit? Any cereals i can buy? Thanks Sue > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 I don't know what link you are referring to, but eggs are allowed on BBD. I suggest getting info about BBD directly from Ashton Embry's site: www.direct-ms.org or the UK MS Resource Center: http://www.msrc.co.uk/ Crystal > > > Eggs? Eggs are not allowed according to Dudley's link > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Eggs are certainly allowed on the BBD. The same as vinegar and yeast, some people do not tolerate egg (usually the white) well and therefore should obviously avoid them but for the rest of us they are fine. What link have you got from Dudley? Janet To: mscured From: mmacchiarella@... Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 12:19:05 +0000 Subject: Re: traveling Eggs? Eggs are not allowed according to Dudley's link > > > It is easy to stick to the BBD here in Spain where salad dressings are only ever olive oil and red wine vinegar. Ask for oil and vinegar on the side and most restaurants will oblige. If not, squeeza a lemon over salad. Plain grilled or barbecued food are the safest when eating out. Fresh fruit for dessert. > > Breakfasts in hotels are tricky but if you find a cereal (corn?) you can eat, use the fruit juice in place of milk on it. > > I don't know about America but you should be able to find much more than I can here. Quinoa chocopops, inflated quinoa with honey, inflated rice, buckwheat, corn in various guises, millet ............. I rotate my breakfasts. Home-made muesli with various dried fruit and nuts, coconut, pumpkin seeds, flax seeds, etc, and any of the milks - nut/hemp or fruit juice. Savoury crackers - the same quinoa, buckwheat, etc. and chestnut crackers, with sugar-free marmalade/apricot jam. Eggs. Rice cakes and nut butter (NOT peanut), cold cuts in limitation with rice cakes. I never have the same grain within 4 days and feel that is keeping further allergies at bay. > > Janet > > > To: mscured > From: matherlyclan@... > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:57:09 +0000 > Subject: traveling > > > > > > I was just wondering how you can stick to the BBD while traveling? If i order salad in a regular restaurant what salad dressing can i order? Also what can I eat for breakfast at home besides fruit? Any cereals i can buy? Thanks Sue > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Do you know that if you soak your grains overnight the phytic acid they contain (mineral inhibitor) will be pre-digested? Add some acid and sea salt to the water (apple cider vinegar, lemon). I do the same with nuts because they contain enzyme inhibitors. I never have the same grain within 4 days and feel that is keeping further allergies at bay. > > > > Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 yeah, I realized after I sent that note that my vinegar restriction is not from thd BBD... I also follow an alkalizing diet on top of that... sorry for the error. ________________________________ To: MS-Cured <mscured > Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 3:40:44 PM Subject: RE: traveling I haven't read all your email yet but we ARE allowed vinegar on the BBD. Just not malt vinegar. Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 I have trouble staying on the Best Bet Diet when I am not traveling and would love any ideas for meals sent to me at tamgober@.... Thanks! Tammy > > I was just wondering how you can stick to the BBD while traveling? If i order salad in a regular restaurant what salad dressing can i order? Also what can I eat for breakfast at home besides fruit? Any cereals i can buy? Thanks Sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Janet, FYI I am referring to info contained in MS direct.org by Ashton Embry's Multiple Sclerosis-Best Bet Treatment where it does MOST CERTAINLY say no eggs. it classifies them as a food containing proteins that mimic self-proteins and they need to be avoided. Here is the link: http://www.direct-ms.org/bestbet.html and here is the excert: The second and perhaps most important strategy for halting autoimmune reactions is to stop eating foods which potentially contain proteins which can mimic self proteins. Unfortunately there is no test which can be administered to establish which foods may be problematic for a given individual. Thus it is essential to eliminate all foods which have the potential to mimic self. These foods include all dairy products, all grains, all legumes (e.g. beans), EGGS and yeast. For grains the most problematic ones are glutenous ones which include wheat, rye, barley and oats. These must be avoided without fail. Rice seems like the safest of the non-gluten grains but even it can be problematic for some. The ELISA test can help guide decisions on the safety of non-glutenous grains although such grains must always be regarded as potentially problematic. Also one should always be aware of how a given food affects them and eliminate foods which consistently result in discomfort and minor symptoms (fatigue, tingling etc.). Not trying to cause static here but this is why it's so confusing. I've read it's not ok and then you see others saying it is. I have similar uncertainties on which meats are ok, ok in moderation, and not ok at all. Mind you I have no formal nutritional training as all the knowledge I have is from what I read and discuss with others. If I'm mistaken then what and where is the right source? Thanks > > > > > > Eggs? Eggs are not allowed according to Dudley's link > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Sorry ! Eggs and yeast weren't officially banned when I started BBD a couple years ago. They were listed as potentially problematic, but not outright banned. Seems it's been updated without the information being disseminated. Since I'm on the BBD Yahoo group, I would've expected to see it there, but I don't remember it! I definitely react to eggs so it's a moot point for me. Crystal > > Janet, FYI I am referring to info contained in MS direct.org by Ashton Embry's Multiple Sclerosis-Best Bet Treatment where it does MOST CERTAINLY say no eggs. it classifies them as a food containing proteins that mimic self-proteins and they need to be avoided. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Thank you Mike for forwarding this. It is the first I've seen on eggs or yeast not being allowed by everyone. OK I've always known that a lot of us have problems with these 2 ingredients and obviously to stay off them if you have a problem. By copy of this e-mail I am forwarding it to the BBD site who will hopefully ask Ashton if this is still his view and if it is cited on their website, and if not why not. Cetainly Crystal and I had never seen it before and I fear there may be others out there not knowing this. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Janet Subject: Re: traveling Janet, FYI I am referring to info contained in MS direct.org by Ashton Embry's Multiple Sclerosis-Best Bet Treatment where it does MOST CERTAINLY say no eggs. it classifies them as a food containing proteins that mimic self-proteins and they need to be avoided. Here is the link: http://www.direct-ms.org/bestbet.html and here is the excert: The second and perhaps most important strategy for halting autoimmune reactions is to stop eating foods which potentially contain proteins which can mimic self proteins. Unfortunately there is no test which can be administered to establish which foods may be problematic for a given individual. Thus it is essential to eliminate all foods which have the potential to mimic self. These foods include all dairy products, all grains, all legumes (e.g. beans), EGGS and yeast. For grains the most problematic ones are glutenous ones which include wheat, rye, barley and oats. These must be avoided without fail. Rice seems like the safest of the non-gluten grains but even it can be problematic for some. The ELISA test can help guide decisions on the safety of non-glutenous grains although such grains must always be regarded as potentially problematic. Also one should always be aware of how a given food affects them and eliminate foods which consistently result in discomfort and minor symptoms (fatigue, tingling etc.). Not trying to cause static here but this is why it's so confusing. I've read it's not ok and then you see others saying it is. I have similar uncertainties on which meats are ok, ok in moderation, and not ok at all. Mind you I have no formal nutritional training as all the knowledge I have is from what I read and discuss with others. If I'm mistaken then what and where is the right source? Thanks > > > > > > Eggs? Eggs are not allowed according to Dudley's link > > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Great............while your at it ask them why some of the recipes contained in the BBD recipe book contain beef and game and eggs if we can't have them. ttys > > > > Janet > > > > > > > Subject: Re: traveling > > > > > > > Janet, FYI I am referring to info contained in MS direct.org by Ashton Embry's Multiple Sclerosis-Best Bet Treatment where it does MOST CERTAINLY say no eggs. it classifies them as a food containing proteins that mimic self-proteins and they need to be avoided. > > Here is the link: > http://www.direct-ms.org/bestbet.html > > and here is the excert: > The second and perhaps most important strategy for halting autoimmune reactions is to stop eating foods which potentially contain proteins which can mimic self proteins. Unfortunately there is no test which can be administered to establish which foods may be problematic for a given individual. Thus it is essential to eliminate all foods which have the potential to mimic self. These foods include all dairy products, all grains, all legumes (e.g. beans), EGGS and yeast. For grains the most problematic ones are glutenous ones which include wheat, rye, barley and oats. These must be avoided without fail. Rice seems like the safest of the non-gluten grains but even it can be problematic for some. The ELISA test can help guide decisions on the safety of non-glutenous grains although such grains must always be regarded as potentially problematic. Also one should always be aware of how a given food affects them and eliminate foods which consistently result in discomfort and minor symptoms (fatigue, tingling etc.). > > Not trying to cause static here but this is why it's so confusing. I've read it's not ok and then you see others saying it is. I have similar uncertainties on which meats are ok, ok in moderation, and not ok at all. Mind you I have no formal nutritional training as all the knowledge I have is from what I read and discuss with others. If I'm mistaken then what and where is the right source? > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Eggs? Eggs are not allowed according to Dudley's link > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Just tidying up my files here and see that we've cleared up the eggs question (basically anyone who is intolerant of them should stay off them ... figures!) I'd already asked the question when your others came in. The rules for the BBD are specified (as per MSRC website) then seem to be manipulated by individuals. After all, we are all different. I, for one, am very strict with any ingredients I believe are going to implicate MS directly (gluten/dairy/legumes/tomato) and anything towards which you show an intolerance but am more relaxed when it comes to beef/game which as far as I am concerned can be lean meats and only as problematical for people with MS as they are to the general population trying to steer clear of saturated fat. I don't pay too much attention to their recipes as they tend also to use tomatoes (which I don't believe in) and use a lot of supermarket products whereas I believe in knowing 100% where all your foods come from and using organic where possible. Listen to your body - it knows what you should/shouldn't eat. Janet To: mscured From: mmacchiarella@... Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:36:17 +0000 Subject: Re: traveling Great............while your at it ask them why some of the recipes contained in the BBD recipe book contain beef and game and eggs if we can't have them. ttys > > > > Janet > > > > > > > Subject: Re: traveling > > > > > > > Janet, FYI I am referring to info contained in MS direct.org by Ashton Embry's Multiple Sclerosis-Best Bet Treatment where it does MOST CERTAINLY say no eggs. it classifies them as a food containing proteins that mimic self-proteins and they need to be avoided. > > Here is the link: > http://www.direct-ms.org/bestbet.html > > and here is the excert: > The second and perhaps most important strategy for halting autoimmune reactions is to stop eating foods which potentially contain proteins which can mimic self proteins. Unfortunately there is no test which can be administered to establish which foods may be problematic for a given individual. Thus it is essential to eliminate all foods which have the potential to mimic self. These foods include all dairy products, all grains, all legumes (e.g. beans), EGGS and yeast. For grains the most problematic ones are glutenous ones which include wheat, rye, barley and oats. These must be avoided without fail. Rice seems like the safest of the non-gluten grains but even it can be problematic for some. The ELISA test can help guide decisions on the safety of non-glutenous grains although such grains must always be regarded as potentially problematic. Also one should always be aware of how a given food affects them and eliminate foods which consistently result in discomfort and minor symptoms (fatigue, tingling etc.). > > Not trying to cause static here but this is why it's so confusing. I've read it's not ok and then you see others saying it is. I have similar uncertainties on which meats are ok, ok in moderation, and not ok at all. Mind you I have no formal nutritional training as all the knowledge I have is from what I read and discuss with others. If I'm mistaken then what and where is the right source? > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Eggs? Eggs are not allowed according to Dudley's link > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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