Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 On Ashton Embry's BBD recipe book there are beef and game recipes but I was under the impression that all beef, pork, and lamb were excluded. White meat chicken and fish are allowed. Are other meats ok as long as their organic grass fed? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Game is OK. Beef on occasion. The others too on limited occasions. All these saturated fats aren't good for anyone, MS or no MS but they won't produce molecular mimicry problems like the gluten grains, casein or legumes. Sorry for the hurried reply but I noticed no one had come back to you on this. Janet To: mscured From: mmacchiarella@... Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:13:19 +0000 Subject: BBD question......... On Ashton Embry's BBD recipe book there are beef and game recipes but I was under the impression that all beef, pork, and lamb were excluded. White meat chicken and fish are allowed. Are other meats ok as long as their organic grass fed? thanks _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Actually, Janet, I've been reading more and more lately on how saturated fats ARE good for you, as long as they are from grass fed meat, raw milk butter, etc. But I'm not here to get into it, cause I don't have all my facts straight yet, so I prefer to wait until I do. I will say that no caveman ever asked his wife to trim the fat from his meat!!! And traditional Eskimoes practically ate nothing BUT fat and organ meats. Etc. But, my problem is how the saturated fat=good theory, works with the LOW saturated fat is good for MS theory. The more I know, the more confused I get. Beverly > > > Game is OK. Beef on occasion. The others too on limited occasions. All these saturated fats aren't good for anyone, MS or no MS but they won't produce molecular mimicry problems like the gluten grains, casein or legumes. Sorry for the hurried reply but I noticed no one had come back to you on this. > > Janet > > > > To: mscured > From: mmacchiarella@... > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:13:19 +0000 > Subject: BBD question......... > > > > > > On Ashton Embry's BBD recipe book there are beef and game recipes but I was under the impression that all beef, pork, and lamb were excluded. White meat chicken and fish are allowed. Are other meats ok as long as their organic grass fed? thanks > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 I agree. I have shown great improvement from eating animal fat and organ meats. It has everything to do with metabolic typing. Some people do well on fruit and leafy greens, others don't. I'm a carnivore but I wasn't for a long time. Not eating meat made me sicker. > > > > > > Game is OK. Beef on occasion. The others too on limited occasions. All these saturated fats aren't good for anyone, MS or no MS but they won't produce molecular mimicry problems like the gluten grains, casein or legumes. Sorry for the hurried reply but I noticed no one had come back to you on this. > > > > Janet > > > > > > > > To: mscured > > From: mmacchiarella@ > > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:13:19 +0000 > > Subject: BBD question......... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Ashton Embry's BBD recipe book there are beef and game recipes but I was under the impression that all beef, pork, and lamb were excluded. White meat chicken and fish are allowed. Are other meats ok as long as their organic grass fed? thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > > https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 > I will say that no caveman ever asked his wife to trim the fat from his meat!!! Yeah, and he had a life expectancy of 30-some years. Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 They didn't have the same diseases we have now and how do you know why he died? It probably wasn't caused by fatty meat! > > I will say that no caveman ever asked his wife to trim the fat from his meat!!! > > Yeah, and he had a life expectancy of 30-some years. > > Crystal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 > > They didn't have the same diseases we have now and how do you know why he died? It probably wasn't caused by fatty meat! > Yep, cause he didn't live long enough for it to take the toll on his heart! Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 There are so many reports on fat being unhealthy for the heart and just as many with a different conclusion. I've eaten two types of organic diets, one with fats and one as a raw vegan. I have felt good with both but the vegan diet caused me to develope physical issues (receding gums, hair loss, hypothyroidism) and the meat w/fat diet is correcting the problems. I think it depends on your metabolic type to determine what kind of diet that you need. I eat pastured meat and I will not eat factory farmed food (if I have a choice). As far as the paleolithic diet goes, I don't believe in evolution. The diet was promoted in 1985 and most of the theories are conjecture. People have eaten fat long before industrialization entered the picture. Vegetable oil was promoted for health but it was actually produced for profit. Heart disease is a modern illness. I have had an awakening due to the effects that eating a diet specific to my metabolic type has had on me. It is an ancestral diet that doesn't go as far back as cavemen! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Well, sure, Crystal, he did have a short life expectancy. But that's cause a dinosaur or saber-toothed tiger killed him young. (Or he stepped on a rock and cut himself and got gangrene, or ate something poisonous, or got bit by a snake--you catch my drift. But, I don't believe they were dying of heart disease or cancer). Beverly > > I will say that no caveman ever asked his wife to trim the fat from his meat!!! > > Yeah, and he had a life expectancy of 30-some years. > > Crystal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 > But, I don't believe they were dying of heart disease or cancer). > And that's really my point. They didn't live long enough to know what the effects of their diet were, so we can't make assumptions that prove some kind of connection. Heart disease and cancer came into play with both a different diet and a longer life-span. And now that we've pushed the life expectancy further, we've got Alzheimer's to deal with. If we are going to judge the healthiness of a particular diet, how can the single most important criterion be anything but longevity? If you agree, you have to look to the people who appear to get it right - the Okinawans. I'm not saying their diet is the perfect diet and will heal all ills - it's quite obvious that the Western diet has already taken its toll on most of us here. So, we need to make allowances for our specific problems/issues and how to heal them. But, who's to say that, if we had all been raised on that diet and low-stress lifestyle, most of us couldn't become lively, active, 100-something's? Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 I understand what you're saying. And you have a point. I just am of the opinion that our ancestors didn't live long because they died of things that we now have the ability to cure. We have antibiotics, for example, or tetanus shots, or whatever. MS, for example, is supposedly a disease of the " young. " (Even tho that wasn't the case for me, my sister, for ex. was dx at 16.) Most people are dx in their 20's and 30's. But, the first case of M.S. wasn't " discovered " until recently (not sure on facts, maybe late 1800's???). So, if MS is a disease of the young, even our ancestors, who lived until their 30's, would have seen this disease. But they didn't. So maybe their diet prevented them from getting MS. See what I mean? Anyway, their are always many, many sides to every coin. Beverly > > But, I don't believe they were dying of heart disease or cancer). > > > > And that's really my point. They didn't live long enough to know what the effects of their diet were, so we can't make assumptions that prove some kind of connection. Heart disease and cancer came into play with both a different diet and a longer life-span. And now that we've pushed the life expectancy further, we've got Alzheimer's to deal with. > > If we are going to judge the healthiness of a particular diet, how can the single most important criterion be anything but longevity? If you agree, you have to look to the people who appear to get it right - the Okinawans. I'm not saying their diet is the perfect diet and will heal all ills - it's quite obvious that the Western diet has already taken its toll on most of us here. So, we need to make allowances for our specific problems/issues and how to heal them. But, who's to say that, if we had all been raised on that diet and low-stress lifestyle, most of us couldn't become lively, active, 100-something's? > > Crystal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 > So, if MS is a disease of the young, even our ancestors, who lived until their 30's, would have seen this disease. But they didn't. > > So maybe their diet prevented them from getting MS. See what I mean? > > Anyway, their are always many, many sides to every coin. Yep, like how much time they spent in the sun compared to " modern " humans. That's the side of the coin I'm betting on. Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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