Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 > Can anyone tell me about their experiences with doxycyline or their > advice as to whether or not it is wise to sign consent to be a > published case study? Hi there, I don't have any personal info, but recently someone posted this: http://www.davidwheldon.co.uk/ms-treatment1.html and doxycycline is in the protocol for treating c.pneumoniae, implicated in MS. I'm not a fan of antibiotics, but the case is quite compelling and your personal experience adds to that. HTH! Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 -- Hi, Have you ever been tested for Lyme disease through a specialized lab? The reason I am asking is doxycycline has been used to treat Lyme successfully and can work against the Lyme spirochete. Regular Lyme tests i.e. Quest Labs a lot of times report false negatives if you had one of those. It has also been used for MS by several leading integreative medicine doctors including one called Dr Rowen who is in California and writes the Second Opinion newsletter. I think it is very encouraging that this is working for you and since I have a bottle of it that a doctor had prescribed to me I am going to start taking it and see what effect it has me and I will let you know. As far as signing the consent for the study, there is not a problem in doing so as long as you would like to be a part of a published study and do not have any problem with that. Consent forms are always used in research studies with human subjects. I conducted a research study when I was at UC and I had to have all my participants sign consent forms. Good luck with the doxy-- this is great news for you!! P.s. How many milligrams of the doxy are you taking and how often? Best, - In mscured , " lizaalvarezdiaz " wrote: > > For about 6 months now I have started having what doctors strongly > suspect to be MS. I have yet to be given an official diagnosis but > they have ruled out most all other possibilities and have found > several lesions in my MRI. > > When this all started I had been prescribed doxcycyline for a > bartonella infection (cat scratch fever/disease) and it cleared up my > first episode of optic neuritis. A few weeks later I started having > all the typical ms symptoms. I then had a second episode of optic > neuritis a month later and my new neurologist sent me for a week of > high dose steroid treatment(solumedrol)but it only worsened my > vision. He then just told me to 'hold tight' until it went away. > Frustrated I started taking the rest of the leftover doxycycline that > had worked for me the first time and surprise.......it worked again. > I went to the doctor who prescribed me the original dose and she gave > me more since it seemed to be helping me. > > Has anyone else used doxy for their ms? It made almost all my > symptoms disappear (tingling, memory-loss, cognitive impairments, > pain in my limbs, vision trouble:spotting & blurriness, diziness. > etc.). My doctors have asked for my consent to write up a case study > on my reaction to the doxy since it is not a traditional medicine for > MS patients. > > Can anyone tell me about their experiences with doxycyline or their > advice as to whether or not it is wise to sign consent to be a > published case study? > > I am new to this and any help or advice is appreciated!! Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 -- Hi, Have you ever been tested for Lyme disease through a specialized lab? The reason I am asking is doxycycline has been used to treat Lyme successfully and can work against the Lyme spirochete. Regular Lyme tests i.e. Quest Labs a lot of times report false negatives if you had one of those. It has also been used for MS by several leading integreative medicine doctors including one called Dr Rowen who is in California and writes the Second Opinion newsletter. I think it is very encouraging that this is working for you and since I have a bottle of it that a doctor had prescribed to me I am going to start taking it and see what effect it has me and I will let you know. As far as signing the consent for the study, there is not a problem in doing so as long as you would like to be a part of a published study and do not have any problem with that. Consent forms are always used in research studies with human subjects. I conducted a research study when I was at UC and I had to have all my participants sign consent forms. Good luck with the doxy-- this is great news for you!! P.s. How many milligrams of the doxy are you taking and how often? Best, - In mscured , " lizaalvarezdiaz " wrote: > > For about 6 months now I have started having what doctors strongly > suspect to be MS. I have yet to be given an official diagnosis but > they have ruled out most all other possibilities and have found > several lesions in my MRI. > > When this all started I had been prescribed doxcycyline for a > bartonella infection (cat scratch fever/disease) and it cleared up my > first episode of optic neuritis. A few weeks later I started having > all the typical ms symptoms. I then had a second episode of optic > neuritis a month later and my new neurologist sent me for a week of > high dose steroid treatment(solumedrol)but it only worsened my > vision. He then just told me to 'hold tight' until it went away. > Frustrated I started taking the rest of the leftover doxycycline that > had worked for me the first time and surprise.......it worked again. > I went to the doctor who prescribed me the original dose and she gave > me more since it seemed to be helping me. > > Has anyone else used doxy for their ms? It made almost all my > symptoms disappear (tingling, memory-loss, cognitive impairments, > pain in my limbs, vision trouble:spotting & blurriness, diziness. > etc.). My doctors have asked for my consent to write up a case study > on my reaction to the doxy since it is not a traditional medicine for > MS patients. > > Can anyone tell me about their experiences with doxycyline or their > advice as to whether or not it is wise to sign consent to be a > published case study? > > I am new to this and any help or advice is appreciated!! Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 I have read several testimonials of either minocycline, doxy, and/or other antibiotics being helpful for reversing MS. It is intriguing, but I haven't tried that route yet. As pointed out, this is also a common trestment for Lyme, and some feel Lyme and MS are similar in many cases and/or that MS is Lyme misdiagnosed. In either case, my feeling is to keep going with whatever works for the individual. Unfortunately, I haven't found my own answers yet. > > For about 6 months now I have started having what doctors strongly > suspect to be MS. I have yet to be given an official diagnosis but > they have ruled out most all other possibilities and have found > several lesions in my MRI. > > When this all started I had been prescribed doxcycyline for a > bartonella infection (cat scratch fever/disease) and it cleared up my Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 I am following the Wheldon protocol of antibiotic treatment (with supplements) for MS (http://www.davidwheldon.co.uk/ms-treatment.html). I am starting month 4 of the protocol and have seen gradual improvements in cognitive function, fatigue, memory and so on. My optic neuritis has not improved however -- an improvement that I am waiting and hoping for. Can I suggest that you read the whole of the Dr. Wheldon web site. It is not always an easy read but has answered many questions for me and has provided some hope of a 'cure' Dan 2008/12/28 lizaalvarezdiaz > For about 6 months now I have started having what doctors strongly > suspect to be MS. I have yet to be given an official diagnosis but > they have ruled out most all other possibilities and have found > several lesions in my MRI. > > When this all started I had been prescribed doxcycyline for a > bartonella infection (cat scratch fever/disease) and it cleared up my > first episode of optic neuritis. A few weeks later I started having > all the typical ms symptoms. I then had a second episode of optic > neuritis a mo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Hi Dan, Did you find a Doctor to administer the regimen to you or are you doing this on your own based on the information provided on Dr. Wheldon's website? Thank you for the information. WW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 The subject caption on this one seems in error.  Is someone claiming that MS is a disease with a cause that is treatable with antibiotics, that is caused by some type of bacteria? Apparently the intent is actually that someone diagnosed with MS actually had lyme disease or some bacterial infection, that is treatable by antibiotics.  But the treatment isn't for MS, its for something else or a cofactor condition that a person with MS also has. I don't think MS is actually a " disease " but rather is diagnosed based on symptoms caused by toxic exposures or exposures to some other substances that cause autoimmune attack on nerve sheaths by the immune system.  But some of the MS symptoms can also be caused by biological attacks by Lyme bacteria/spirachettes, etc.   There needs to be more focus on the underlying condition/cause rather than depending on generic assumptions about something broadly called MS that may not apply to all with some of the MS symptoms. for example I've taken Doxy and other lyme treatments, but it was for lyme disease, not for MS. Earlier I had been diagnosed with mercury toxicity and essentially recovered from my MS symptoms through amalgam replacement and detox.  I also had some of the MS symptoms return(not all) that was resolved by jawbone cavitation treatment (extracted wisdom tooth site and root-canaled tooth site). Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 I found a doctor in the UK who understands and prescribes the Dr. Wheldon protocol. There are some who simply buy the antibiotics online, I believe, which are all off-patent and can be sourced reasonably cheaply without a prescription. www.alldaychemist.com for example. Dan 2008/12/30 truckingdeals > > Hi Dan, > > Did you find a Doctor to administer the regimen to you or are you > doing this on your own based on the information provided on Dr. > Wheldon's website? Thank you for the information. WW > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Hi Dan, I am thinking about approaching my GP in the UK about this protocol. How did you manage to find a doctor who understands the protocol and where are they based? Also, what guarantee is there that the drugs bought over the internet are the real thing? If my GP doesn't agree I would like to try the treatment but would like to know that I am taking the real drugs and not some imitation. I don't mean to doubt you but wanted some re-assurance as you know what the internet can be like. Thank you. Frances > > I found a doctor in the UK who understands and prescribes the Dr. Wheldon > protocol. There are some who simply buy the antibiotics online, I believe, > which are all off-patent and can be sourced reasonably cheaply without a > prescription. www.alldaychemist.com for example. > > Dan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Hi Steve Generally I am doing well on the protocol, shortly coming up to the end of month 4. It's definitely not an overnight fix and the first couple of Metronidazole (Flagyl) 'pulses' were not too pleasant (inflamed throat, chest, back pains, for example) Im going to stay the course, at least for now, and see where it takes me. I get the feeling that for each individual there may or may not be a bacterial component to their disease. I;m still trying to assert whether and how bacteria might have affected my disease onset and early symptoms. I have Optic Neuritis, which is not improving yet, but some of the more usual MS symtpoms lsuch as fatigue do seem to be improving. I also take LDN which I believe to be helping. Best of luck with your GP -- mine was not able to help with this. Dan 2009/1/6 stephen mcmanus > Hi Dan. > > Following your posting I read the protocol and how this helped the > microbiologists ( Dr Wheldon) wife make a miraculous recovery. > Can I ask how > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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