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I too cannot drink soda and haven't had it for about

three years! I do however tell my husband not to

throw away flat soda, I cure my cravings that way!!

Cheryl

--- <jennlee.2@...> wrote:

> Hi Alan,

>

> I have heard some members of this group say that

> drinking soda is

> helpful for swallowing, as you do in your post here.

>

> My experience has been that I can't drink soda

> anymore. If I drink

> soda, I have to chase each sip with a lot of water

> to get it down.

> Either the carbon dioxide thing doesn't work with me

> or perhaps its

> that soda is generally served very cold and I don't

> do well with

> super cold things - I can drink water that is a bit

> cold (like from

> the faucet set on cold) but not ice-cold. Maybe

> I'll try some room-

> temperature soda and see... That sounds pretty darn

> gross though...

>

> Anyone else have any similar experiences?

>

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> > Hello, Chris. My name is Alan and I live in the

> US. I have had

> Achalasia for two years. About 6 months ago, I had a

> surgical myotomy

> performed and am almost back to normal. Still a

> little difficulty

> swallowing meats and some breads, but most things go

> down easily. I

> know how you feel. I suffered with this disease and

> tried to keep it

> secret for a while. Finally, after nearly 4 days of

> being unable to

> swallow even water, I passed out and ended up in an

> emergency room!

> SO much for secrecy. Look into the surgery, results

> are not

> guaranteed, but usually quite good. BTW,beer and

> soda help swallowing

> because of the carbon dioxide in them. The expanding

> gasses help push

> the food down. Keep in touch.

> >

> > Cheers,

> > Alan

> >

>

>

>

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After beer, I've found that warm soda is by far the best thing for

me. I use it evertime I need to swallow something. The only thing is

that for some reason, Coca Cola is the best thing for me. The only

thing is that I get through about twelve litres a week - that's a

conservative estimate, so thank god that diet Coca Cola works too -

as water just doesn't cut it. It's very expensive, and I look like a

mad man going into my local store for two bottles of coca cola every

day.

I said they'd get shorter.

Chris

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I was told not to drink soda anymore as it will aggravate the condition.

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Is this true of naturally carbonated mineral water???

Re: Soda

Carbonated drinks are very hard on the kidneys. Since the kidneys regulate

water levels in the body, I would guess that you, or whoever is having this

problem, needs to take some steps to strengthen the kidneys and stay away from

sodas.

Dr. Barefoot says it take 30 days to restore ph that gets wacked out from one

soda. Not worth it.

On the bloating, it could be a number of things. Wrong food combining, low

digestive enzymes, clogged liver and or gall bladder. food allergies. I would

suggest starting with digestive enzymes. It is the easiest test and easiest

solution. If they don't give relief then you could look further.

I am not a doctor and not prescribing. Just saying what I would do if it was

me, from what I have read.

Donna

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Hi all,

Just 2quick questions. Does anyone know why I/someone would retain

water when having carbonated drinks??

Also, why does the belly blow up when eating even if it is a very

small meal, what's going on in there?

God Bless,

Hazelpone

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Candida seems to cause that tenderness in your belly.

I have had that for YEARS when I eat sugar, but not

now that I am getting BETTER!!!

Sodas have LOTS of sodium!!! That will cause water

retention!

God bless you!

Carolyn

> Hi all,

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> Just 2quick questions. Does anyone know why

> I/someone would retain

> water when having carbonated drinks??

>

> Also, why does the belly blow up when eating

> even if it is a very

> small meal, what's going on in there?

>

> God Bless,

> Hazelpone

>

>

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Hi Betsy,

I have never had mineral water before that I can remember.

Food combining may be it, I have to think on that. When I first food-

combined, my belly did not blow up the way it does now, but after a

while, the veggies were getting to me!! UUUGGGHHHH!!! I know now

that nothing would work until I got out of the plant, but then, I

just kept trying. So I may try that again in a few months.

My kidneys are in bad shape from the plant chemicals (I have to pee

all the time)! But nothing shows up on the tests the MD's give me.

The docs actually tried to blame it on stress!!! Not the chemicals

that say on the label that they cause this, but stress!! Makes me

wanna holler!!

Anyway, thank you for your replies. Any extra info will be

apprecieated.

God Bless,

Hazelpone

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You know, I really don't know what causes bubbling spring water to be bubbling.

I will ask on another list and see if anyone knows.

Carbon dioxide is conentrated and forced into liquid to make a normal soda, as I

understand. And the phosphates in sodas are what mess up ph.

Donna

-----Original Message-----

Is this true of naturally carbonated mineral water???

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I developed a gassy gut after eating. Taking enzymes stopped

it.

I wasn't digesting my food. Perhaps you need enzymes to digest

vegetable matter.

Liz D

Re: Soda

Hi Betsy,

I have never had mineral water before that I can

remember.

Food combining may be it, I have to think on that. When I first

food-

combined, my belly did not blow up the way it does now, but after a

while, the veggies were getting to me!!

UUUGGGHHHH!!! I know now

that nothing would work until I got out of the plant, but then, I

just kept trying. So I may try that again in a few months.

My kidneys are in bad shape from the plant chemicals (I have to pee

all the time)! But nothing shows up on the tests the MD's give

me.

The docs actually tried to blame it on stress!!! Not the

chemicals

that say on the label that they cause this, but stress!! Makes

me

wanna holler!!

Anyway, thank you for your replies. Any extra info will be

apprecieated.

God Bless,

Hazelpone

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> I developed a gassy gut after eating. Taking enzymes stopped

> it.

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> I wasn't digesting my food. Perhaps you need enzymes to digest

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> Re: Soda

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> Hi Betsy,

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> I have never had mineral water before that I can

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> Food combining may be it, I have to think on that. When I first

> food-

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> combined, my belly did not blow up the way it does now, but after a

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> while, the veggies were getting to me!!

> UUUGGGHHHH!!! I know now

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> that nothing would work until I got out of the plant, but then, I

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> just kept trying. So I may try that again in a few months.

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> My kidneys are in bad shape from the plant chemicals (I have to pee

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> all the time)! But nothing shows up on the tests the MD's give

> me.

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> The docs actually tried to blame it on stress!!! Not the

> chemicals

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> that say on the label that they cause this, but stress!! Makes

> me

>

> wanna holler!!

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>

> Anyway, thank you for your replies. Any extra info will be

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> apprecieated.

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> God Bless,

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> Hazelpone

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In a message dated 4/19/02 1:10:13 AM Central Daylight Time,

michelerovegno@... writes:

> i was recently told that i should not drink soda with arthritis

This makes sense. I am a soccer coach, and in one of my coaching classes we

have to take, it was explained to me that soda contains lots of gasses

(carbonation) ....The way the body gets rid of the gas is through the joints,

this is why we tell the players never to drink any soda within two days of

playing in a game. I guess if you have arthritis, your joints are already

compromised, so this would just add to it.

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In a message dated 4/19/2002 4:38:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

lesliesa@... writes:

> I was told (by a rheumy) that Soda (not sure if it is the carbonation or the

> caffeine or both) can cause osteoporosis and eat away at your bones. My

> dentist also told me not to drink it because it eats the enamel off your

> teeth and causes cavities. To not drink it at all is almost impossible for

> me. I cut down to 1 a day (if even that b/c it doesn't last long in the

> house w/ the hubby around).

I've been told that Diet pop ( *g* I'm from the North here) Diet Pop leaches

out more calcium out of your bones than regular pop. I try to watch my

intake of that because I'm very sensitive to aspartame. I get lightheaded

headaches from too much.

Smile,

Becky

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Michele,

I was told (by a rheumy) that Soda (not sure if it is the carbonation or the

caffeine or both) can cause osteoporosis and eat away at your bones. My dentist

also told me not to drink it because it eats the enamel off your teeth and

causes cavities. To not drink it at all is almost impossible for me. I cut

down to 1 a day (if even that b/c it doesn't last long in the house w/ the hubby

around).

>>> michelerovegno@... 04/18/02 09:56PM >>>

hey all,

i was recently told that i should not drink soda with arthritis ... i

was wondering if anyone else had heard of this? it seems sort of odd

to me (i haven't had the opportunity to ask WHY this suggestion was

made to me). so just thought i'd see what you all had to say.

thanks,

michele

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[Guest guest]

thanks for the replies ... i have decided to basically cut soda out

of my diet, although i will indulge every few weeks -- i guess it's

better to be " safe than sorry "

-michele

> Michele,

>

> I was told (by a rheumy) that Soda (not sure if it is the

carbonation or the caffeine or both) can cause osteoporosis and eat

away at your bones. My dentist also told me not to drink it because

it eats the enamel off your teeth and causes cavities. To not drink

it at all is almost impossible for me. I cut down to 1 a day (if

even that b/c it doesn't last long in the house w/ the hubby around).

>

>

>

>

> >>> michelerovegno@y... 04/18/02 09:56PM >>>

> hey all,

> i was recently told that i should not drink soda with

arthritis ... i

> was wondering if anyone else had heard of this? it seems sort of

odd

> to me (i haven't had the opportunity to ask WHY this suggestion

was

> made to me). so just thought i'd see what you all had to say.

> thanks,

> michele

>

> [

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No soda? Oh nooooooo. This is the first I've heard of this and it is not

good news. Bummer with a capital B. I'm not a drinker, but I did enjoy a

glass of wine once in awhile with a nice dinner. 'Did' is the operative word

here. Well, I thought... I can always have my coke. Now, what? No coke

either? What about that carbonated non-alcoholic stuff ... that pretend

wine beverage? I guess that would be a 'no-no' too, huh? This is no fun!!!

Now when I go to a friend's house, I'll have to bring my own juice until I

let them all know I can't have soda either. Geeeshhhhh! LOL

Vicki

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What can we do?? I don't drink alcohol (not opposed nor have a problem, just

don't like and stopped years ago when " partying " became less of a fad), but

do drink diet coke (3-4/day), as well as lots of water. Can't drink juice

due to diabetes. What now? I actually put my diet coke into a wine glass at

night to feel a bit more elegant, and sip my " wine " by the fire with hubby.

Is there nothing less? Do we have to give up sex too??????

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At 02:44 PM 4/21/02 -0400:

>What can we do?? I don't drink alcohol (not opposed nor have a problem, just

>don't like and stopped years ago when " partying " became less of a fad), but

>do drink diet coke (3-4/day), as well as lots of water. Can't drink juice

>due to diabetes. What now? I actually put my diet coke into a wine glass at

>night to feel a bit more elegant, and sip my " wine " by the fire with hubby.

>Is there nothing less? Do we have to give up sex too??????

i drink seltzer water..i don't know if poland springs is regional but they

make ) calorie flavored seltzers...also , a squeeze of fresh lemon or lime

makes it " special " .....mo

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In a message dated 4/22/2002 2:03:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

mjberry@... writes:

> >What can we do?? I don't drink alcohol (not opposed nor have a problem,

> just

> >don't like and stopped years ago when " partying " became less of a fad),

> but

> >do drink diet coke (3-4/day), as well as lots of water. Can't drink juice

> >due to diabetes. What now? I actually put my diet coke into a wine glass

> at

> >night to feel a bit more elegant, and sip my " wine " by the fire with

> hubby.

> >Is there nothing less? Do we have to give up sex too??????

>

>

> i drink seltzer water..i don't know if poland springs is regional but they

> make ) calorie flavored seltzers...also , a squeeze of fresh lemon or lime

> makes it " special " .....mo

Playing devils advocate...that's as bad as the pop. :-) Still carbonated.

It's the carbonation that's the evil to the joints. Perie isn't bad either,

but I'll stick to my Code Red. Need the caffeine. *eg* *sigh* but non-diet

pop is 3 points to the can. Bugger!

Smile,

Becky

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Is seltzer water the same as mineral water? Mineral water has a carbonation

to it. I really like it and it comes plain or in flavors. I thought the

carbonation was the problem in soda's though... which would make me think

it's the same with minteral water. I'm not sure what seltzer water is.

Vicki

> i drink seltzer water..i don't know if poland springs is regional but they

> make ) calorie flavored seltzers...also , a squeeze of fresh lemon or lime

> makes it " special " .....mo

>

>

[Guest guest]

I didn't think about juice being a problem for some people too. Bummer to

have diabetes on top of PA and P too. I do the same thing as you... I put

my soda beverage in a wine glass (especially when others have wine) to feel

more " elegant " . I'll have to find an alternative to that now, I guess. I

will not give up my coffee yet though. I know it's bad but I'm hooked! I'm

from Starbuck Country. We are coffee drinkers. LOL to giving up sex. That

would even be easier for me than giving up coffee! Vicki

> What can we do?? I don't drink alcohol (not opposed nor have a problem,

> just

> don't like and stopped years ago when " partying " became less of a fad), but

> do drink diet coke (3-4/day), as well as lots of water. Can't drink juice

> due to diabetes. What now? I actually put my diet coke into a wine glass

> at

> night to feel a bit more elegant, and sip my " wine " by the fire with hubby.

> Is there nothing less? Do we have to give up sex too??????

>

>

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In a message dated 04/22/2002 12:34:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Vlarson169@... writes:

> I didn't think about juice being a problem for some people too. Bummer to

> have diabetes on top of PA and P too

I have diabetes and really don't like soda, diet or otherwise. V8 Splash

makes a sugar free juice that's very good. I drink a lot of Crystal Light

also. Crystal Light even makes a blender beverage (hard to find) that comes

in the flavors of strawberry dacquari and pina colada. You mix it in a

blender with ice. But plain old water is best - try adding a slice of lemon

or lime or orange and a cherry and put it in a pretty glass with some crushed

ice. (And buy a filter like Pur that fits on the spigot if your water has a

chlorine taste like ours does-it really helps.)

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it has been my understanding that coke, pepsi and cola in general is the

bad boy because they rob our bones of needed phosphorous.........weakening

them.especially those of us already compromised....i got the OK for seltzer

water..........bears further substantiation perhaps......mo

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The surgeons I work with are very against carbonated beverages and tell patients it is because the stomach can no longer work the gas out of the liquid and it can cause pain throughout the intestines. I do have patient who add back small amounts of soda and do ok, some say it is better if they let it flatten for a while before drinking it. I also have some patients who try it, have a lot of pain and then never do it again. I try to discourage it but some will do what they want!!!

Diane Olson MS, RD, CDE

UW Health Bariatric Program, University of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics

dl.olson@...

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Hillary MausbachSent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:24 PM Subject: Soda

I am curious as to what others are telling their patients about soda. When/if it is ok for them to drink it again - if it is ok are certain types preferred (obviously diet, but what about caffeine-free), if it is not ok what reasons/explanations are you giving. Thanks!

Hillary Chrastil, RD, LMNT

Dietitian, Bariatric Surgery Team

VA Nebraska-Western Iowa Health Care System

Omaha, NE

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I tell them no soda at all for at least 2 years. Then it should only be an

occasional treat not something that is an everyday occurance. Reason given

is effect on calcium stores, distending pouch and quick dissapation which

can cause them to eat more, then also there is some controversy over whether

or not is will stretch the pouch.

J. Sams MS RD/LD

>From: Hillary Mausbach <hillary_mausbach@...>

>Reply-

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>Subject: Soda

>Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:24:04 -0700 (PDT)

>

>I am curious as to what others are telling their patients about soda.

>When/if it is ok for them to drink it again - if it is ok are certain types

>preferred (obviously diet, but what about caffeine-free), if it is not ok

>what reasons/explanations are you giving. Thanks!

>

>

>

>Hillary Chrastil, RD, LMNT

>Dietitian, Bariatric Surgery Team

>VA Nebraska-Western Iowa Health Care System

>Omaha, NE

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Our surgeons also state no carbonated beverages after surgery.

> The surgeons I work with are very against carbonated beverages and

tell

> patients it is because the stomach can no longer work the gas out

of the

> liquid and it can cause pain throughout the intestines. I do have

> patient who add back small amounts of soda and do ok, some say it is

> better if they let it flatten for a while before drinking it. I

also

> have some patients who try it, have a lot of pain and then never do

it

> again. I try to discourage it but some will do what they want!!!

>

> Diane Olson MS, RD, CDE

> UW Health Bariatric Program, University of Wisconsin Hospital and

> Clinics

> dl.olson@h...

>

> Soda

>

>

> I am curious as to what others are telling their patients

about

> soda. When/if it is ok for them to drink it again - if it is ok are

> certain types preferred (obviously diet, but what about caffeine-

free),

> if it is not ok what reasons/explanations are you giving. Thanks!

>

>

> Hillary Chrastil, RD, LMNT

> Dietitian, Bariatric Surgery Team

> VA Nebraska-Western Iowa Health Care System

> Omaha, NE

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