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Members of the board:

As I'm sure most of you are aware, there is a personality type found on

discussion boards known as " Trolls. " These personalities claim to be

asking for help, but in reality, their purpose is to disrupt and create

tension within a given group. They claim to have never been on a

discussion board before, but usually they have a great deal of experience,

and use it to the advantage of their need to cause chaos.

Why do they do this? Lot's of reasons. Sometimes they're lonely and angry,

or they're hurting and angry, or they're just plain angry, and can't lash

out at the people/persons they're really angry or hurt over.

If you've been following the thread here you can tell who the " Troll " is

on the board right now. I suggest either ignoring this person and continue

with " positive " conversation, or lay low until someone removes them.

Oh by the way Silvia, you know you're info is right on the money, as do

many of us here.

Johanna Koskinen, Outreach Coordinator

Hepatitic C Multicultural Outreach(HepC-Missouri)

http://www.hepcmo.org Email: johanna@...

Toll-free/24-Hour Hotline: 1.888.436.HEPC(4372)

Phone#: 1.816.763.4766(Business)

On Sun, September 4, 2005 2:45 am, sandy katt said:

> Sylvia;

>

> Is there any way I can stay in this & quot;group & quot; but not

> hear from ya?

>

> Certain sugars and certain fats are not good for you.

> Others are just dandy.

>

> Soda, which contains high fructose corn syrup and a

> host of chemicals are not very good for a body.

>

> Eating an apple or a pear or a fig or a date isn't so

> bad for you. They are whole foods, full of sugar, and

> delight most people. Carrots have a high sugar

> contents also.

>

> Coconuts are full of fats. So are olives. They are

> both very healthy foods. Their oils, when minimally

> processed, are quite beneficial to a body.

>

> Fish oil, a fat, is a body requirement as is has a

> lotta vitamin A and omega3 oils.

>

> Be careful when you suck up that soda. Wipe off the

> can before you pop the top and slurp it on down. The

> can was stored in a warehouse for who knows how long.

> You could get a mouse or bug or rat type disease from

> them crawling all over the stored can.

>

> --- Bhprice425@... wrote:

>

> > LOL.....empty calories.

> >

> > A nurse that teaches diabetics. It's awful I feel

> > guilty if I derink a

> > sode....LOL I start thinking 40 grams of sugar is

> > the same as 10 Lifesavers.

> >

> > But seriously.......why do I say forget the ice

> > cream......what is it made

> > of? sugar and fat.

> >

> > New information (studies) have shown that the

> > Hepatitis C virus causes

> > insulin resistance....that's when your body stops

> > being sensitive to insulin and it

> > can eventually lead to diabetes......and depending

> > on the degree of liver

> > damge......all people who have hep C have some

> > degree os insulin

> > resistance.....and insulin resistance lowers your

> > chances of treatment success.

> >

> > Sugar and fat are certainly not going to help you

> > here buddy.

> > Silvia

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Thank you Johanna,, Silvia IS right on her info,, and anyone who thinks they can

attack her is going to be booted out of here.. its ok to have conversation about

things, but attacking is not allowed!

" Johanna (Hep C - MO) " <johanna@...> wrote:Members of the board:

As I'm sure most of you are aware, there is a personality type found on

discussion boards known as " Trolls. " These personalities claim to be

asking for help, but in reality, their purpose is to disrupt and create

tension within a given group. They claim to have never been on a

discussion board before, but usually they have a great deal of experience,

and use it to the advantage of their need to cause chaos.

Why do they do this? Lot's of reasons. Sometimes they're lonely and angry,

or they're hurting and angry, or they're just plain angry, and can't lash

out at the people/persons they're really angry or hurt over.

If you've been following the thread here you can tell who the " Troll " is

on the board right now. I suggest either ignoring this person and continue

with " positive " conversation, or lay low until someone removes them.

Oh by the way Silvia, you know you're info is right on the money, as do

many of us here.

Johanna Koskinen, Outreach Coordinator

Hepatitic C Multicultural Outreach(HepC-Missouri)

http://www.hepcmo.org Email: johanna@...

Toll-free/24-Hour Hotline: 1.888.436.HEPC(4372)

Phone#: 1.816.763.4766(Business)

On Sun, September 4, 2005 2:45 am, sandy katt said:

> Sylvia;

>

> Is there any way I can stay in this & quot;group & quot; but not

> hear from ya?

>

> Certain sugars and certain fats are not good for you.

> Others are just dandy.

>

> Soda, which contains high fructose corn syrup and a

> host of chemicals are not very good for a body.

>

> Eating an apple or a pear or a fig or a date isn't so

> bad for you. They are whole foods, full of sugar, and

> delight most people. Carrots have a high sugar

> contents also.

>

> Coconuts are full of fats. So are olives. They are

> both very healthy foods. Their oils, when minimally

> processed, are quite beneficial to a body.

>

> Fish oil, a fat, is a body requirement as is has a

> lotta vitamin A and omega3 oils.

>

> Be careful when you suck up that soda. Wipe off the

> can before you pop the top and slurp it on down. The

> can was stored in a warehouse for who knows how long.

> You could get a mouse or bug or rat type disease from

> them crawling all over the stored can.

>

> --- Bhprice425@... wrote:

>

> > LOL.....empty calories.

> >

> > A nurse that teaches diabetics. It's awful I feel

> > guilty if I derink a

> > sode....LOL I start thinking 40 grams of sugar is

> > the same as 10 Lifesavers.

> >

> > But seriously.......why do I say forget the ice

> > cream......what is it made

> > of? sugar and fat.

> >

> > New information (studies) have shown that the

> > Hepatitis C virus causes

> > insulin resistance....that's when your body stops

> > being sensitive to insulin and it

> > can eventually lead to diabetes......and depending

> > on the degree of liver

> > damge......all people who have hep C have some

> > degree os insulin

> > resistance.....and insulin resistance lowers your

> > chances of treatment success.

> >

> > Sugar and fat are certainly not going to help you

> > here buddy.

> > Silvia

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

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  • 4 months later...

Soda wreaks havic in my E. BUT I use in in an

emergency when sometthing has gotten stcuk and begin

to ferment.

Like I said, the soda wreaks havic but it moves the

stuck item around a bit and helps it get down. Soda

creates too much discomfort (fop me) to use with every

meal.

Dave

--- toniasdogsandi <toniasdogsandi@...> wrote:

> We were really never told what to eat or not.They

> told to eat

> what he could tolerate. I am kinda scared

> about the soda

> thing - hes been off them for a few months cause of

> the acid reflux

> he was told he had.

>

>

>

> -- In achalasia , carolina moon

> <wooleeacre@y...>

> wrote:

> >

> > I would have to caution you on the soda. I dont

> know if you said

> he had LAP or not, but our surgeon said NO SODA !

>

> > not for the first 4 months anyway.. and only in

> limited

> quantities. Also you dont say if he is on

> protonix... to limit the

> acid production while he is healing....

> > I wonder about the diet also, as we could not

> have tortilla,

> lettace, bread, chicken, meats, or anything yummy

> like 'till well

> after 6 weeks, and some not till after the 3 month

> check up..

> > Carolyn mom of Cameron.

> >

> >

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Bipley, Well, if you try one you'll know why!! That's for sure!!:-) If you can imagine the foam (head) that forms when you pour a coke or beer, well that foam winds back up in your throat and the pressure in your pouch & esophagus is not pleasant to say the least!! I'm sure that can cause damage to your pouch and esophagus!

I was able to drink beer and soda (slowly) BEFORE my 1st fill. I wouldn't touch either now. Funny that I don't miss diet coke at all!! It and beer were all I ever drank! Well, maybe a glass of iced tea once or twice a year to to mix things up a bit!! LOL.....I drink Ice tea all day long now, love it, a little splenda/equal, yummy!!

And to replace the beer.... well nothing replaces beer but, now I love Kahlua/white russians, and Rum & diet V8 splash!! No carbonation and they go down nicely ;-) Only once in a while though....to relax :-) When I'm "out" I might choose a "Rum Runner" or "Bahama Mama" they are both fruity with no carbonation. (If your not a "drinker" than dis-regard the last paragraph..Iced Tea will do fine...LOL)

Dana

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "mybipley" <mybipley@...>

Would someone explain to me again why we can't drink carbonated drinks? Such as Diet Coke? I can't remember the reasoning behind it.Thx12/6/06252/232/130

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Oye veh... that does not sound nice at all! Thanks for the info. I

couldn't remember exactly why it was a bad thing. I guess I was

overloaded on information at that time and it didn't all sink in.

Thx!

12/6/06

252/232/130

>

> Bipley, Well, if you try one you'll know why!! That's for sure!!:-

) If you can imagine the foam (head) that forms when you pour a coke

or beer, well that foam winds back up in your throat and the pressure

in your pouch & esophagus is not pleasant to say the least!! I'm sure

that can cause damage to your pouch and esophagus!

> I was able to drink beer and soda (slowly) BEFORE my 1st fill. I

wouldn't touch either now. Funny that I don't miss diet coke at all!!

It and beer were all I ever drank! Well, maybe a glass of iced tea

once or twice a year to to mix things up a bit!! LOL.....I drink Ice

tea all day long now, love it, a little splenda/equal, yummy!!

> And to replace the beer.... well nothing replaces beer but, now I

love Kahlua/white russians, and Rum & diet V8 splash!! No carbonation

and they go down nicely ;-) Only once in a while though....to relax :-

) When I'm " out " I might choose a " Rum Runner " or " Bahama Mama " they

are both fruity with no carbonation. (If your not a " drinker " than

dis-regard the last paragraph..Iced Tea will do fine...LOL)

> Dana

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: " mybipley " <mybipley@...>

> Would someone explain to me again why we can't drink carbonated

> drinks? Such as Diet Coke? I can't remember the reasoning behind it.

>

> Thx

>

> 12/6/06

> 252/232/130

>

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Hi all,

It's interesting to read all these posts about carbonated drinks. I am another achalasian who survived the bad times by drinking carbonated drink (dry ginger ale was my 'Drano' of choice) to get food down. I was unable to drink water (warm or room temp) at all - it would take me 3-4 hours to sip my way through a glass of water whereas i could 'drink' a glass of soda (as you call it) in about a half hour. My oesophagus was really badly distended and tortuous as well, so those who put it down to having a fairly straight oesophagus - that didn't apply in my case.

Just goes to prove that each of us have to handle this condition in the best way to suit our particular case.

Deb from Melbourne Australia.

soda

I tried drinking soda this weekend after it was mentioned here and it did help me.Water, on the other hand, does not help me at all when things are feeling stuck. -- "joanninfuquay" <jptoyzearthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

I don't understand how anyone can drink soda when they have achalasia. Not to mention that it actually helps them!

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I used to drink diet soda almost every day for several years. Now only

drink one occasionally except when we drink diet coke in our theaters.

Instead of soda, I switched to Lipton's bottled diet green tea. Also

make brewed green tea for afternoons. Green tea is more healthy than

soda also.

Debbie L

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I'm sorry if my post came off as saying anyone did that in our group. My

post was just a reminder that we all should drink plenty of water, and not

the kind that's bottled, either. That's a waste of money. I put filters on

my kitchen sink and fridge, and fill my bottle and glasses from there. We've

got to be healthy, it's the way it has to be.

Dennis in eastexas

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Sue <marysue@...> wrote:

> Dennis, I didn't say I drank nothing but sodas. I also drink coffee,

> and as I said, hot tea, and water at least once a day, LOL. And I also

> eat all of my ice, which has to count as water.

>

> Sue

>

> On Sunday, November 30, 2008, at 04:57 PM, Dennis W wrote:

>

> > When I read this sort of thing, I am reminded of the President of

> > LeTourneau

> > University dieing of sclerosis of the liver from drinking nothing but

> > Cokes

> > every day. That's not how I want to be remembered. I drink mostly

> > water and

> > sometimes some unsweetened tea. It works for me.

> >

> > Dennis in eastexas

>

> __.

>

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