Re: Anyone tried hormone therapy to help MS?

[Guest guest]

I just completed Simpson's book myself and was considering this also.

Unfortunately, I also don't know anyone doing it. First though I

would like to give the Klenner protocol a shot (no punn intended) at

working and then do some mercury detox before I approach the Hormone

thing.

Let us know what you decide and how it works out for you.

Have you tried getting in touch with Simpson regarding any questions?

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I tried getting in touch with Simpson to ask if she had any doctors to

recommend in Florida. I got an email back from her book publisher

saying she doesn't make such recommendations for specific doctors.

I have come to learn in the last few days that there are a few

different approaches to the bioidentical hormone replacement therapy

(BHRT). One is to dose a person at the levels of hormones they had in

their 20s (very high levels). Suzanne Somers does this under what is

called the Wiley protocol. It keeps women having their periodds

indefinitely, even in their 60s and 70s. The other approach is to

start with very low dosing and gradually move up until symptoms

improve, while looking for the lowest dose possible (as opposed to the

first approach which uses high dosing).

Apparently Simpson believes that high levels of estrogen are

needed for myelin repair. In my case, I am in the normal range for

estrogen but have very low progesterone as well as hypothyroidism, so

I don't know if adding estrogen would be helpful for me--especially

since I have a fibroid in my uterus which is generally caused by

estrogen dominance over progesterone.

Another thing to note, as I have been calling around different BHRT

doctors, is that they have different beliefs with regard to the forms

of bioidenicals. For edample, some will prescribe creams, while other

prescribe oral pills.

So there are many things to take into consideration once one even

decides to try BHRT.

Again, I am concerned that it won't work and then my body will need

the hormones forever because it will make even less of its own. But on

the other hand, I don't know what else to try at this point.

As someone else wrote, I have also considered trying Klenner first.

Two years plus into this and I don't seem to be making any headway,

Sincerely

A frustrated

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>I have a fibroid in my uterus

I had a fibroid when I started using the cream and it is now gone. I no longer

have hotflashes, knots in my breasts, etc.

>For edample, some will prescribe creams, while other prescribe oral pills.

Taking orally changes the composition of the Progesterone and it is not the same

as using the cream. The cream is the safest form.

As we age, our body stops producing progesterone. If I have to use it for the

rest of my life to feel as good as I do now, I will do so. It is life changing.

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> What is the normal monthly cost for bioidentical hormone replacement

therapy?Alice Alley Riner, VA www.photosbyalice.com

Hi Alice,

It really depends on which hormones you need, if any. Some people take

as many as 5 or 6 hormones, such as bioidentical thyroid, cortisol,

estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, and/or DHEA. None is extremely

expensive, but they can add up. I was told by one person who is on four

bioidentical hormones that she spends about $125 a month. I know that

my thyroid prescription (not covered by insurance) is $11, but I am

only on 1/2 grain. Most people take at least a grain, which is about

$20 a month. Progesterone cream may run about $20-$30 a month.

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to report I have been on 1/2 grain of Armour thyroid

(bioidentical thyroid) for about 4 or 5 days. I noticed yesterday and

today I have an increase in energy and better mental clarity. I

cannot say for sure yet if it is due the thyroid supplementation,

because I have a lot of variations anyway. But I will keep the group

posted.

By the way, this is considered a very low dose. Most people need

more, but this is what the doctor has me on for now, so I'll see how

it goes.

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> therapy?Alice Alley Riner, VA www.photosbyalice.com

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> Hi Alice,

> It really depends on which hormones you need, if any. Some people

take

> as many as 5 or 6 hormones, such as bioidentical thyroid, cortisol,

> estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, and/or DHEA. None is

extremely

> expensive, but they can add up. I was told by one person who is on

four

> bioidentical hormones that she spends about $125 a month. I know

that

> my thyroid prescription (not covered by insurance) is $11, but I am

> only on 1/2 grain. Most people take at least a grain, which is

about

> $20 a month. Progesterone cream may run about $20-$30 a month.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Alice and all,

You have to get a prescription for bioidentical hormones from a

doctor who specializes in this or is open to prescribing them. They

are not available without a prescription. I forgot to mention that is

an added cost, unless you have great health insurance.

I purchased one of Suzanne Somer's book and honestly did not find it

that helpful. It is basically an advertisement for doing bioidentical

hormone therapy, but doesn't go through the specifics very well. She

also uses a very high dosing method called the Wiley protocol. There

is controversy around using such high dosing, but I certain don't

have the answers as to whether high or low dosing is better.

A much better book, in my opinion, would be the book by

Simpson called " The MS Solution. " She has MS and is a hormone

researcher and has been successful at controlling her symptoms with

the hormone therapy. She goes into a lot of detail in describing

things and in very understandable language.

I am also going to buy Dr. Platt's book. He is another doctor

who specializes in bioidentical hormones.

That's great that you have a mild case of MS. I wish that was the

case for me.

Regards,

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What is the normal monthly cost for bioidentical hormone replacement

therapy?Alice Alley Riner, VA www.photosbyalice.comHi Alice, It

really depends on which hormones you need, if any. Some people take

as many as 5 or 6 hormones, such as bioidentical thyroid, cortisol,

estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, and/or DHEA. None is extremely

expensive, but they can add up. I was told by one person who is on

four bioidentical hormones that she spends about $125 a month. I know

that my thyroid prescription (not covered by insurance) is $11, but I

am only on 1/2 grain. Most people take at least a grain, which is

about $20 a month. Progesterone cream may run about $20-$30 a

month.

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[Guest guest]

Mannatech Plus balances hormones for many, has helped lots that I know of.  

Ambrotose also helps many with MS.  Some do better with Ambrotose Classic

rather than the newer advanced ambrotose that has seaweed extract

added-especially those with autoimmune problems.

Bernie