Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Dr. Bihari says steroids are not the best of meds to take along with LDN. Steroids can definitely lower the affects of LDN. Steroids are immune suppressing and LDN upregulates/boosts the immune system back towards normal. Any drug that suppresses the immune system works against LDN. Art --- > > Hi there, > > I have a friend who has had colitis for a yr, her dr has put her on > prednisone 20mg for 2 wks. Should I advise her to try ldn, God knows > it workss great for my sarcoidosis! > > Thanks for readng. > Jo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 > > > >Thanks Zahavi, will recommend Ldn! > > > > Thanks for readng. > > Jo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 jo you may want to look into the gaps diet too. they have had good success with it and ulcerative colitis. http://gapsdiet.com/ One Patient's Experience With Ulcerative Colitis and the Gaps Diet Contributed by: Kurt Worthington, Berkeley, California, December 2008 It all started about three years ago. I am a self employed architect who was fortunate enough to be asked to help with designing the master plan of Kigali, the capitol city of Rwanda. As someone who has travelled extensively throughout my life, I welcomed this opportunity to participate in something so important and was excited about the adventure that lay ahead. I have since been over there six times to this beautiful, small and hilly, green African country. However after returning from my first visit there, which lasted our typical ten days, I noticed blood in my stool. I always seem to get traveler's diarrhea when I travel to unusual places, but this was the first time that I noticed blood. Somewhat worried but not overly so, I went to a Gastro Intestinal doctor. I explained where I had been and figured I must have caught a bug of some kind. At first he thought the same and prescribed the normal western treatment - antibiotics. I took them for a while but my symptoms remained. As a result, I returned to his office a few weeks later. He told me since the antibiotics did not work, it was probably something else. He then decided to do a sigmoidoscopy and explained that he suspected I had Ulcerative Colitis, a disease I had never heard of. The sigmoidoscopy retuned results classic of what he suspected - I did indeed have UC. The doctor explained to me that this was a disease that was hereditary and can happen anytime in your life; however it is more common in the early years (teens and twenties) or shows up in people in their fifties. Having this occur in my mid-forties was a little unusual. He went on to explain that it was a disease of the immune system. His simple explanation was that a bug of some sort entered my system; my immune system went to attack it, and was now not shutting off. The only way to shut it off was by medication. He then went on to explain the medicinal treatment "pyramid" as he called it. At the base of this pyramid was a wide array of medicines, all not too intense, but as you worked your way up the pyramid, there were fewer choices in medicine, and these medicines were more intense and strong. So we started at the bottom and he prescribed 12 to 14 tablets of Asacol. "How long would I need to take these?" I asked. "Probably for the rest of your life," he said. I was starting to understand that this was a serious disease. The Asacol did not work. He then starting working his way up the pyramid. I was learning more about this disease both through my GI as well as from my own reading. There seemed to be two theories. One was what my GI believed; the other was that it was based on diet. I brought up the diet philosophy to my GI, but he disregarded it - which frustrated me. Onward we marched up that pyramid of medicine; I worked my way to the middle and now was being prescribed 60 mg of prednisone a day as well as other medications. The prednisone steroid was horrible. I could not sleep, I was incredibly irritable and it turns out (as I later discovered) it was giving me steroid induced osteoporosis and cataracts in my eyes. My face puffed out and I started losing my hair. The prednisone did not work that well either and, from what I was experiencing from the side effects, I wanted off it. I was now extremely frustrated as my disease just seemed to be getting worse and worse, even though my medicine was getting stronger and stronger. I was having 10 to 15 to 20 bloody, uncontrollable bowel movements a day. Everywhere I went, I mapped out the bathrooms because I literally had about 20 seconds from the time I got the urge until the time I had to go to the bathroom. For the first time in my life I felt handicapped. I was not in control of my body and that frustrated the hell out of me. Well, I made it to the top of the pyramid which included Remacaid, via an infusion into my body taking three hours about once every three weeks and Imuran, an immune suppressant drug that does just that - it hinders your immune system (an idea I did not feel that good about). These treatments did not work as well. I was miserable, had lost weight because my intestines were not absorbing what they should and I was incredibly lethargic. I felt like I had constant jet lag. All this was a result of my disease and the drugs I was taking for it. My doctor then said that since the medication was not working, my only other option was surgery. A second opinion supported this and the doctor actually said to me, "Just do it, you do not need your colon anyway." I could not believe this was happening, it was like a bad, bad dream and I was not waking up from it. The operation that he said I needed would be a two part operation, each one taking me out for about a month at a time. It was called a "J pouch" operation where during the first part they take out the colon and create an internal sack, but they then give you an external bag for your waste. Then in a month, after your intestines have a chance to heal, they take away the external bag and reconnect your inside so that this J pouch now acts as your colon. There are common problems with the J pouch such as infections, etc. If it fails completely, you must wear the external bag for the rest of your life. However, some people do not have many problems except that they need to go more often then they did. Even still, this operation horrified me. But it had been three long years of living with this and it was getting worse and worse. I kept holding on to the belief that it was diet related and kept bringing this up with my GI. However, it kept falling on deaf ears. I started to look outside the traditional medicine path. I tried a strict diet prescribed by a Chinese acupuncture doctor but that did not work either. Friends of my parents who live in Germany, one of whom is an anthroposophic eye doctor, were appalled at the treatment that I was being prescribed. They told me to search out an anthroposophic doctor in the Bay area to see if he or she could help with an alternative method. That is how I found Dr. Cowan. I was literally at my wits' end because in the week that I met Dr. Cowan, I also interviewed two surgeons who could possibly do the J pouch surgery. I must say I was a little reluctant that Dr. Cowan could help. But he said one key phrase that convinced me to postpone surgery: "I sure as hell would try this first before you remove your colon because there is no going back after you do the J pouch surgery." I told Dr. Cowan my story, about the trips to Rwanda, the medications I was on, etc. But he also wanted to hear more about me. So I told him about myself, my personality, as well as the fact that five years ago I had a stint put in one of my arteries, that I was on a statin to lower my cholesterol, and I was on a very low fat diet. My LDL was about 79 and my heart doctor wanted it below 70. Dr. Cowan took in all this info and started drafting a recovery plan for me. The first thing was to stop the statin and to not worry about my cholesterol. If anything he wanted my cholesterol higher because he said cholesterol has healing abilities, and the fact that my cholesterol was low was actually hindering my recovery from ulcerative colitis. He introduced me to the Nourishing Traditions cookbook and told me to look at it not only as a cookbook but as a philosophy because the diet he was going to prescribed for me would not, for now, allow me to use all of the recipes in the book. The diet he prescribed was the GAPS diet by Natasha McBride, which is related to Elaine Gottschalls Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD). The Nourishing Traditions ideas dovetailed well with the GAPS diet in many ways. At first the GAPS diet was difficult to do. It is very restrictive in that you eliminate virtually all starches, carbohydrates and sugar. Corn, soy, wheat, rice, barley and many other items were forbidden as well. When you take these ingredients out of your diet, the supermarket gets real small, real fast. As I mentioned though, I was at the end of my rope. It was either this diet and the protocol that Dr. Cowan prescribed or it was off to the cutting table. The latter thought made the diet seem really easy. Honestly, I was both skeptical and hopeful at the same time when I started the GAPS diet. I did not know if it was going to work. Dr. Cowan warned me that I would not see results right away and that the diet would have to be continued for at least one year after my symptoms stopped. I knew I was looking at a long road ahead of me. I diligently read Dr. McBride's book and followed the recipes in her book as well as the basic ones in the Nourishing Traditions cookbook. I started on the broths and cooked only organic meat and organic vegetables. Joining a chat room and getting some names from Dr. Cowan, I was able to find new recipes. The diet went from hard work to a lot of fun because I started to experiment with a new ways of cooking. I also learned about a very valuable book by Kendal Conrad called Eat Well, Feel Well. This book took the diet to another level and showed me that this diet could be tasteful, creative and even gourmet. The first thing I needed to do was find a substitute for typical starches or carbohydrates like rice, potatoes, pasta or bread at my meals. Conrad's book talks about this and gives recipes (to name a few) for mashed celery root and mashed carrot for potato substitutes, spaghetti squash to replace pasta, and cashew bread to replace the traditional bread that I was so used to eating. For breakfast, almond flour became my friend when making carrot muffins; ground up pecans for scrumptious pecan waffles with honey is also a favorite. I started to make my own kefir with the kefir grains given to me from Hamilton-Roth at Dr. Cowan's office. Letting the grains sit in whole, raw milk from Organic Pastures for 24 hours provided a great morning fruit and raw-egg smoothie. Often I would substitute yogurt made from the raw milk for the kefir. I also tried to eat as much fermented food like sauerkraut and beet kvass. As I mentioned, I was on multiple and very strong medications at the time I started this diet. However Dr. Cowan instructed me that we would slowly taper off these hard medications and substitute a few drugs that he prescribed coupled with this diet. I started noticing results within the first two weeks. They were not big changes, but there were changes. I started to see a reduction in my bowel movements from 15 down to maybe 10 a day. After a month, it dropped even more and after three months I really started to see a difference. But I also started losing more weight. The adjustment of eliminating carbohydrates and because my colon was still not absorbing nutrients the way it should caused me to lose weight - dropping from 165 to 140 pounds. However, I was now going only 5 to 6 times a day (almost all still bloody and still not very controllable) but this was so much less than before. I had reason to be encouraged and optimistic. I started the diet in February of 2007 and by mid June my symptoms were completely eliminated. I felt more energetic and my weight was stabilizing. During the summer we slowly tapered off Imuran, the immune suppressant drug that my GI had told me I would need to be on for the rest of my life. It is now late December, I still have not had a relapse. I feel great, people tell me I look great, and my weight has started to climb back up. But most important of all, I still have my colon. As someone who was hopeful but skeptical about this diet, I am living proof that it works! monique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Hi, Ldn is worth a try for colitis. I know a couple of persons using it for colitis, and it works really well for them. Tell your friend to avoid her triggers while on LDN and that she may need months before she's getting all improvements, because with LDN they often come gradually. Asacol is one medicine that is ok to combine with LDN for colitis, and she can use this as a maintanance drug untill she feels so well that she could try to stay without it, if she wants. She can start up using LDN while down on 10 mg prednisone, since prednisone from 10 mg and down is not suppressing the immune system as when bigger dosage. LDN is balancing the immune system, increasing some of it's activities and decresing some. LDN is also increasing our endorphins which make our immunesystem fight the enemies instead of the intestines linings. Ingrid From: jobisselle <jobisselle@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 5:23:35 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] colitisHi there,I have a friend who has had colitis for a yr, her dr has put her onprednisone 20mg for 2 wks. Should I advise her to try ldn, God knowsit workss great for my sarcoidosis!Thanks for readng.Jo------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Thanks so much for the input Ingrid!From: Gunn Dybfest <gunn.ingrid@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 11:04:25 PMSubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] colitis Hi, Ldn is worth a try for colitis. I know a couple of persons using it for colitis, and it works really well for them. Tell your friend to avoid her triggers while on LDN and that she may need months before she's getting all improvements, because with LDN they often come gradually. Asacol is one medicine that is ok to combine with LDN for colitis, and she can use this as a maintanance drug untill she feels so well that she could try to stay without it, if she wants. She can start up using LDN while down on 10 mg prednisone, since prednisone from 10 mg and down is not suppressing the immune system as when bigger dosage. LDN is balancing the immune system, increasing some of it's activities and decresing some. LDN is also increasing our endorphins which make our immunesystem fight the enemies instead of the intestines linings. Ingrid From: jobisselle <jobisselle (DOT) com>low dose naltrexoneSent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 5:23:35 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] colitisHi there,I have a friend who has had colitis for a yr, her dr has put her onprednisone 20mg for 2 wks. Should I advise her to try ldn, God knowsit workss great for my sarcoidosis!Thanks for readng.Jo------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Cheers I will!From: Sauve <moniquesauve@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 10:16:35 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Re:colitis jo you may want to look into the gaps diet too. they have had good success with it and ulcerative colitis. http://gapsdiet.com/ One Patient's Experience With Ulcerative Colitis and the Gaps Diet Contributed by: Kurt Worthington, Berkeley, California, December 2008 It all started about three years ago. I am a self employed architect who was fortunate enough to be asked to help with designing the master plan of Kigali, the capitol city of Rwanda. As someone who has travelled extensively throughout my life, I welcomed this opportunity to participate in something so important and was excited about the adventure that lay ahead. I have since been over there six times to this beautiful, small and hilly, green African country. However after returning from my first visit there, which lasted our typical ten days, I noticed blood in my stool. I always seem to get traveler's diarrhea when I travel to unusual places, but this was the first time that I noticed blood. Somewhat worried but not overly so, I went to a Gastro Intestinal doctor. I explained where I had been and figured I must have caught a bug of some kind. At first he thought the same and prescribed the normal western treatment - antibiotics. I took them for a while but my symptoms remained. As a result, I returned to his office a few weeks later. He told me since the antibiotics did not work, it was probably something else. He then decided to do a sigmoidoscopy and explained that he suspected I had Ulcerative Colitis, a disease I had never heard of. The sigmoidoscopy retuned results classic of what he suspected - I did indeed have UC. The doctor explained to me that this was a disease that was hereditary and can happen anytime in your life; however it is more common in the early years (teens and twenties) or shows up in people in their fifties. Having this occur in my mid-forties was a little unusual. He went on to explain that it was a disease of the immune system. His simple explanation was that a bug of some sort entered my system; my immune system went to attack it, and was now not shutting off. The only way to shut it off was by medication. He then went on to explain the medicinal treatment "pyramid" as he called it. At the base of this pyramid was a wide array of medicines, all not too intense, but as you worked your way up the pyramid, there were fewer choices in medicine, and these medicines were more intense and strong. So we started at the bottom and he prescribed 12 to 14 tablets of Asacol. "How long would I need to take these?" I asked. "Probably for the rest of your life," he said. I was starting to understand that this was a serious disease. The Asacol did not work. He then starting working his way up the pyramid. I was learning more about this disease both through my GI as well as from my own reading. There seemed to be two theories. One was what my GI believed; the other was that it was based on diet. I brought up the diet philosophy to my GI, but he disregarded it - which frustrated me. Onward we marched up that pyramid of medicine; I worked my way to the middle and now was being prescribed 60 mg of prednisone a day as well as other medications. The prednisone steroid was horrible. I could not sleep, I was incredibly irritable and it turns out (as I later discovered) it was giving me steroid induced osteoporosis and cataracts in my eyes. My face puffed out and I started losing my hair. The prednisone did not work that well either and, from what I was experiencing from the side effects, I wanted off it. I was now extremely frustrated as my disease just seemed to be getting worse and worse, even though my medicine was getting stronger and stronger. I was having 10 to 15 to 20 bloody, uncontrollable bowel movements a day. Everywhere I went, I mapped out the bathrooms because I literally had about 20 seconds from the time I got the urge until the time I had to go to the bathroom. For the first time in my life I felt handicapped. I was not in control of my body and that frustrated the hell out of me. Well, I made it to the top of the pyramid which included Remacaid, via an infusion into my body taking three hours about once every three weeks and Imuran, an immune suppressant drug that does just that - it hinders your immune system (an idea I did not feel that good about). These treatments did not work as well. I was miserable, had lost weight because my intestines were not absorbing what they should and I was incredibly lethargic. I felt like I had constant jet lag. All this was a result of my disease and the drugs I was taking for it. My doctor then said that since the medication was not working, my only other option was surgery. A second opinion supported this and the doctor actually said to me, "Just do it, you do not need your colon anyway." I could not believe this was happening, it was like a bad, bad dream and I was not waking up from it. The operation that he said I needed would be a two part operation, each one taking me out for about a month at a time. It was called a "J pouch" operation where during the first part they take out the colon and create an internal sack, but they then give you an external bag for your waste. Then in a month, after your intestines have a chance to heal, they take away the external bag and reconnect your inside so that this J pouch now acts as your colon. There are common problems with the J pouch such as infections, etc. If it fails completely, you must wear the external bag for the rest of your life. However, some people do not have many problems except that they need to go more often then they did. Even still, this operation horrified me. But it had been three long years of living with this and it was getting worse and worse. I kept holding on to the belief that it was diet related and kept bringing this up with my GI. However, it kept falling on deaf ears. I started to look outside the traditional medicine path. I tried a strict diet prescribed by a Chinese acupuncture doctor but that did not work either. Friends of my parents who live in Germany, one of whom is an anthroposophic eye doctor, were appalled at the treatment that I was being prescribed. They told me to search out an anthroposophic doctor in the Bay area to see if he or she could help with an alternative method. That is how I found Dr. Cowan. I was literally at my wits' end because in the week that I met Dr. Cowan, I also interviewed two surgeons who could possibly do the J pouch surgery. I must say I was a little reluctant that Dr. Cowan could help. But he said one key phrase that convinced me to postpone surgery: "I sure as hell would try this first before you remove your colon because there is no going back after you do the J pouch surgery." I told Dr. Cowan my story, about the trips to Rwanda, the medications I was on, etc. But he also wanted to hear more about me. So I told him about myself, my personality, as well as the fact that five years ago I had a stint put in one of my arteries, that I was on a statin to lower my cholesterol, and I was on a very low fat diet. My LDL was about 79 and my heart doctor wanted it below 70. Dr. Cowan took in all this info and started drafting a recovery plan for me. The first thing was to stop the statin and to not worry about my cholesterol. If anything he wanted my cholesterol higher because he said cholesterol has healing abilities, and the fact that my cholesterol was low was actually hindering my recovery from ulcerative colitis. He introduced me to the Nourishing Traditions cookbook and told me to look at it not only as a cookbook but as a philosophy because the diet he was going to prescribed for me would not, for now, allow me to use all of the recipes in the book. The diet he prescribed was the GAPS diet by Natasha McBride, which is related to Elaine Gottschalls Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD). The Nourishing Traditions ideas dovetailed well with the GAPS diet in many ways. At first the GAPS diet was difficult to do. It is very restrictive in that you eliminate virtually all starches, carbohydrates and sugar. Corn, soy, wheat, rice, barley and many other items were forbidden as well. When you take these ingredients out of your diet, the supermarket gets real small, real fast. As I mentioned though, I was at the end of my rope. It was either this diet and the protocol that Dr. Cowan prescribed or it was off to the cutting table. The latter thought made the diet seem really easy. Honestly, I was both skeptical and hopeful at the same time when I started the GAPS diet. I did not know if it was going to work. Dr. Cowan warned me that I would not see results right away and that the diet would have to be continued for at least one year after my symptoms stopped. I knew I was looking at a long road ahead of me. I diligently read Dr. McBride's book and followed the recipes in her book as well as the basic ones in the Nourishing Traditions cookbook. I started on the broths and cooked only organic meat and organic vegetables. Joining a chat room and getting some names from Dr. Cowan, I was able to find new recipes. The diet went from hard work to a lot of fun because I started to experiment with a new ways of cooking. I also learned about a very valuable book by Kendal Conrad called Eat Well, Feel Well. This book took the diet to another level and showed me that this diet could be tasteful, creative and even gourmet. The first thing I needed to do was find a substitute for typical starches or carbohydrates like rice, potatoes, pasta or bread at my meals. Conrad's book talks about this and gives recipes (to name a few) for mashed celery root and mashed carrot for potato substitutes, spaghetti squash to replace pasta, and cashew bread to replace the traditional bread that I was so used to eating. For breakfast, almond flour became my friend when making carrot muffins; ground up pecans for scrumptious pecan waffles with honey is also a favorite. I started to make my own kefir with the kefir grains given to me from Hamilton-Roth at Dr. Cowan's office. Letting the grains sit in whole, raw milk from Organic Pastures for 24 hours provided a great morning fruit and raw-egg smoothie. Often I would substitute yogurt made from the raw milk for the kefir. I also tried to eat as much fermented food like sauerkraut and beet kvass. As I mentioned, I was on multiple and very strong medications at the time I started this diet. However Dr. Cowan instructed me that we would slowly taper off these hard medications and substitute a few drugs that he prescribed coupled with this diet. I started noticing results within the first two weeks. They were not big changes, but there were changes. I started to see a reduction in my bowel movements from 15 down to maybe 10 a day. After a month, it dropped even more and after three months I really started to see a difference. But I also started losing more weight. The adjustment of eliminating carbohydrates and because my colon was still not absorbing nutrients the way it should caused me to lose weight - dropping from 165 to 140 pounds. However, I was now going only 5 to 6 times a day (almost all still bloody and still not very controllable) but this was so much less than before. I had reason to be encouraged and optimistic. I started the diet in February of 2007 and by mid June my symptoms were completely eliminated. I felt more energetic and my weight was stabilizing. During the summer we slowly tapered off Imuran, the immune suppressant drug that my GI had told me I would need to be on for the rest of my life. It is now late December, I still have not had a relapse. I feel great, people tell me I look great, and my weight has started to climb back up. But most important of all, I still have my colon. As someone who was hopeful but skeptical about this diet, I am living proof that it works! monique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 I too am taking LDN for colitis, microscopic colitis in particular, and also Hashimoto's. I have to say, I did not get the diarrhoea under control until I added diet to the mix. I am following Sherry Brescia's " Great Taste, No Pain " . Had 4 days on Asacol, which was all I could tolerate - side effects were horrific. Now just on LDN and diet, probiotics and digestive enzymes occasionally, and doing great!! Good luck to you ~ Nettie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Tracey, it takes approximately 6 weeks for your dose of levothyroxine to be fully absorbed. However, until you find the dose of levothyroxine which removes all of your symptoms, it is usual to increase by 25 mcgs every 6 weeks to 2 months. Your colitis may definitely be better now you are on thyroid hormone replacement as parts of your body are suddenly going to start waking up with your increased metabolism and start to work as they haven't done for quite some time. Good luck. Luv - Sheila Just wondering if anyone else has it here. I've been taking levothyroxine for a week, 25mcg gone up to 50 today. Not sure if it's the levo but my colitis has calmed down quite a bit! Also how long before this stuff really kicks and makes you feel better? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.364 / Virus Database: 270.12.60/2166 - Release Date: 06/11/09 17:59:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 , Do you definitely have colitis - or just colitis symptoms. When I am not medicated properly for thyroid I get days of constipation then perhaps a day or two of diarrhoea, then constipation and diarrhoea (sometimes with colic type pains). Extremely distressing and on my mind all the time, especially if I have to make an appointment. As soon as my thyroid is treated properly this disappears completely and I am so normal I don't even have to think about it. Lilian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Thank you both! It's definitely ulcerative colitis, had it nearly 5 years now. Only time it truly went in remission was just after having my youngest son, although the naltrexone really helps. Which I'm wondering about as I went hyper about 6 months after having him (didn't know that then but it's obvious now) and gone hypo now. If it's pregnancy related thyroid trouble how come it didn't happen when I had my other 2? Could it be related to colitis (being autoimmune) as I didn't have that until my second son was 1 years old so this last pregnancy was my first with colitis. > Your colitis may definitely be better now you are on > thyroid hormone replacement as parts of your body are suddenly going to > start waking up with your increased metabolism and start to work as they > haven't done for quite some time. Good luck. > > > > Luv - Sheila > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Hi Tracey, you should feel continuing improvement until you reach optimum at around 125-150mcg for a full replacement dose- doc should be aiming for a TSH of around 1.0. Subject: Colitis Just wondering if anyone else has it here. I've been taking levothyroxine for a week, 25mcg gone up to 50 today. Not sure if it's the levo but my colitis has calmed down quite a bit! Also how long before this stuff really kicks and makes you feel better? ------------------------------------ TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Hi Tracey, Just that the stresses of pregnancy finally caught up- mine packed in after my second baby. Subject: Re: Colitis Thank you both! If it's pregnancy related thyroid trouble how come it didn't happen when I had my other 2? Could it be related to colitis (being autoimmune) as I didn't have that until my second son was 1 years old so this last pregnancy was my first with colitis. > Lilian > Ooh waking up, that's something I've not done in a while! > Your colitis may definitely be better now you are on > thyroid hormone replacement as parts of your body are suddenly going to > start waking up with your increased metabolism and start to work as they > haven't done for quite some time. Good luck. > > > > Luv - Sheila > > ------------------------------------ TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 - please make sure you delete everything else except a small quote from the actual message you are replying to. I have done it for you this time. Lilian, Moderator. Just when you need to feel well the most! Just been thinking about it, when I was hyper I had the worst pomphloyx (hand eczema, all itchy and blistery, just awful) ever, also lost fingernails. I've had this eczema on an off since having my eldest. Not predictable at all. Then when I lost loads of weight I had it constantly. Then it disappeared (touch wood) I've not had it at all for over a year. Could this eczema (googling seems to make a link) be when my thyroid was being attacked and I was a bit hyper during those times? Perhaps it was starting to get like it and the 3rd baby really set it off. > > Hi Tracey, > Just that the stresses of pregnancy finally caught up- mine > packed in after my second baby. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Yes same for me. Definite problem during and after my second pregnancy only it took GP 6 years to diagnose it. > > > Your colitis may definitely be better now you are on > > thyroid hormone replacement as parts of your body are suddenly going > to > > start waking up with your increased metabolism and start to work as > they > > haven't done for quite some time. Good luck. > > > > > > > > Luv - Sheila > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical > practitioner before changing medication. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 So I went to my PCP about my ongoing stomach issues. He does not think it is from the Arava, he thinks I have colitis. Oh joy. Anyone else have this? *~ Kami ~* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 this will help with digestive disorders. monique i took this from a doctor's newsletter: One Patient's Experience With Ulcerative Colitis and the Gaps Diet /Contributed by: Kurt Worthington, Berkeley, California, December 2008/ It all started about three years ago. I am a self employed architect who was fortunate enough to be asked to help with designing the master plan of Kigali, the capitol city of Rwanda. As someone who has travelled extensively throughout my life, I welcomed this opportunity to participate in something so important and was excited about the adventure that lay ahead. I have since been over there six times to this beautiful, small and hilly, green African country. However after returning from my first visit there, which lasted our typical ten days, I noticed blood in my stool. I always seem to get traveler's diarrhea when I travel to unusual places, but this was the first time that I noticed blood. Somewhat worried but not overly so, I went to a Gastro Intestinal doctor. I explained where I had been and figured I must have caught a bug of some kind. At first he thought the same and prescribed the normal western treatment - antibiotics. I took them for a while but my symptoms remained. As a result, I returned to his office a few weeks later. He told me since the antibiotics did not work, it was probably something else. He then decided to do a sigmoidoscopy and explained that he suspected I had Ulcerative Colitis, a disease I had never heard of. The sigmoidoscopy retuned results classic of what he suspected - I did indeed have UC. The doctor explained to me that this was a disease that was hereditary and can happen anytime in your life; however it is more common in the early years (teens and twenties) or shows up in people in their fifties. Having this occur in my mid-forties was a little unusual. He went on to explain that it was a disease of the immune system. His simple explanation was that a bug of some sort entered my system; my immune system went to attack it, and was now not shutting off. The only way to shut it off was by medication. He then went on to explain the medicinal treatment " pyramid " as he called it. At the base of this pyramid was a wide array of medicines, all not too intense, but as you worked your way up the pyramid, there were fewer choices in medicine, and these medicines were more intense and strong. So we started at the bottom and he prescribed 12 to 14 tablets of Asacol. " How long would I need to take these? " I asked. " Probably for the rest of your life, " he said. I was starting to understand that this was a serious disease. The Asacol did not work. He then starting working his way up the pyramid. I was learning more about this disease both through my GI as well as from my own reading. There seemed to be two theories. One was what my GI believed; the other was that it was based on diet. I brought up the diet philosophy to my GI, but he disregarded it - which frustrated me. Onward we marched up that pyramid of medicine; I worked my way to the middle and now was being prescribed 60 mg of prednisone a day as well as other medications. The prednisone steroid was horrible. I could not sleep, I was incredibly irritable and it turns out (as I later discovered) it was giving me steroid induced osteoporosis and cataracts in my eyes. My face puffed out and I started losing my hair. The prednisone did not work that well either and, from what I was experiencing from the side effects, I wanted off it. I was now extremely frustrated as my disease just seemed to be getting worse and worse, even though my medicine was getting stronger and stronger. I was having 10 to 15 to 20 bloody, uncontrollable bowel movements a day. Everywhere I went, I mapped out the bathrooms because I literally had about 20 seconds from the time I got the urge until the time I had to go to the bathroom. For the first time in my life I felt handicapped. I was not in control of my body and that frustrated the hell out of me. Well, I made it to the top of the pyramid which included Remacaid, via an infusion into my body taking three hours about once every three weeks and Imuran, an immune suppressant drug that does just that - it hinders your immune system (an idea I did not feel that good about). These treatments did not work as well. I was miserable, had lost weight because my intestines were not absorbing what they should and I was incredibly lethargic. I felt like I had constant jet lag. All this was a result of my disease and the drugs I was taking for it. My doctor then said that since the medication was not working, my only other option was surgery. A second opinion supported this and the doctor actually said to me, " Just do it, you do not need your colon anyway. " I could not believe this was happening, it was like a bad, bad dream and I was not waking up from it. The operation that he said I needed would be a two part operation, each one taking me out for about a month at a time. It was called a " J pouch " operation where during the first part they take out the colon and create an internal sack, but they then give you an external bag for your waste. Then in a month, after your intestines have a chance to heal, they take away the external bag and reconnect your inside so that this J pouch now acts as your colon. There are common problems with the J pouch such as infections, etc. If it fails completely, you must wear the external bag for the rest of your life. However, some people do not have many problems except that they need to go more often then they did. Even still, this operation horrified me. But it had been three long years of living with this and it was getting worse and worse. I kept holding on to the belief that it was diet related and kept bringing this up with my GI. However, it kept falling on deaf ears. I started to look outside the traditional medicine path. I tried a strict diet prescribed by a Chinese acupuncture doctor but that did not work either. Friends of my parents who live in Germany, one of whom is an anthroposophic eye doctor, were appalled at the treatment that I was being prescribed. They told me to search out an anthroposophic doctor in the Bay area to see if he or she could help with an alternative method. That is how I found Dr. Cowan. I was literally at my wits' end because in the week that I met Dr. Cowan, I also interviewed two surgeons who could possibly do the J pouch surgery. I must say I was a little reluctant that Dr. Cowan could help. But he said one key phrase that convinced me to postpone surgery: " I sure as hell would try this first before you remove your colon because there is no going back after you do the J pouch surgery. " I told Dr. Cowan my story, about the trips to Rwanda, the medications I was on, etc. But he also wanted to hear more about me. So I told him about myself, my personality, as well as the fact that five years ago I had a stint put in one of my arteries, that I was on a statin to lower my cholesterol, and I was on a very low fat diet. My LDL was about 79 and my heart doctor wanted it below 70. Dr. Cowan took in all this info and started drafting a recovery plan for me. The first thing was to stop the statin and to not worry about my cholesterol. If anything he wanted my cholesterol higher because he said cholesterol has healing abilities, and the fact that my cholesterol was low was actually hindering my recovery from ulcerative colitis. He introduced me to the /Nourishing Traditions /cookbook and told me to look at it not only as a cookbook but as a philosophy because the diet he was going to prescribed for me would not, for now, allow me to use all of the recipes in the book. The diet he prescribed was the GAPS diet by Natasha McBride, which is related to Elaine Gottschalls Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD). The /Nourishing Traditions/ ideas dovetailed well with the GAPS diet in many ways. At first the GAPS diet was difficult to do. It is very restrictive in that you eliminate virtually all starches, carbohydrates and sugar. Corn, soy, wheat, rice, barley and many other items were forbidden as well. When you take these ingredients out of your diet, the supermarket gets real small, real fast. As I mentioned though, I was at the end of my rope. It was either this diet and the protocol that Dr. Cowan prescribed or it was off to the cutting table. The latter thought made the diet seem really easy. Honestly, I was both skeptical and hopeful at the same time when I started the GAPS diet. I did not know if it was going to work. Dr. Cowan warned me that I would not see results right away and that the diet would have to be continued for at least one year after my symptoms stopped. I knew I was looking at a long road ahead of me. I diligently read Dr. McBride's book and followed the recipes in her book as well as the basic ones in the /Nourishing Traditions /cookbook. I started on the broths and cooked only organic meat and organic vegetables. Joining a chat room and getting some names from Dr. Cowan, I was able to find new recipes. The diet went from hard work to a lot of fun because I started to experiment with a new ways of cooking. I also learned about a very valuable book by Kendal Conrad called /Eat Well, Feel Well/. This book took the diet to another level and showed me that this diet could be tasteful, creative and even gourmet. The first thing I needed to do was find a substitute for typical starches or carbohydrates like rice, potatoes, pasta or bread at my meals. Conrad's book talks about this and gives recipes (to name a few) for mashed celery root and mashed carrot for potato substitutes, spaghetti squash to replace pasta, and cashew bread to replace the traditional bread that I was so used to eating. For breakfast, almond flour became my friend when making carrot muffins; ground up pecans for scrumptious pecan waffles with honey is also a favorite. I started to make my own kefir with the kefir grains given to me from Hamilton-Roth at Dr. Cowan's office. Letting the grains sit in whole, raw milk from Organic Pastures for 24 hours provided a great morning fruit and raw-egg smoothie. Often I would substitute yogurt made from the raw milk for the kefir. I also tried to eat as much fermented food like sauerkraut and beet kvass. As I mentioned, I was on multiple and very strong medications at the time I started this diet. However Dr. Cowan instructed me that we would slowly taper off these hard medications and substitute a few drugs that he prescribed coupled with this diet. I started noticing results within the first two weeks. They were not big changes, but there were changes. I started to see a reduction in my bowel movements from 15 down to maybe 10 a day. After a month, it dropped even more and after three months I really started to see a difference. But I also started losing more weight. The adjustment of eliminating carbohydrates and because my colon was still not absorbing nutrients the way it should caused me to lose weight - dropping from 165 to 140 pounds. However, I was now going only 5 to 6 times a day (almost all still bloody and still not very controllable) but this was so much less than before. I had reason to be encouraged and optimistic. I started the diet in February of 2007 and by mid June my symptoms were completely eliminated. I felt more energetic and my weight was stabilizing. During the summer we slowly tapered off Imuran, the immune suppressant drug that my GI had told me I would need to be on for the rest of my life. It is now late December, I still have not had a relapse. I feel great, people tell me I look great, and my weight has started to climb back up. But most important of all, I still have my colon. As someone who was hopeful but skeptical about this diet, I am living proof that it works! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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